# Why I Want to Bring Lions Back to My Village | Seif Hamisi | TED ## Метаданные - **Канал:** TED - **YouTube:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsWrw83zktY - **Дата:** 17.03.2026 - **Длительность:** 9:42 - **Просмотры:** 12,035 - **Источник:** https://ekstraktznaniy.ru/video/11256 ## Описание As a child in rural Kenya, conservationist Seif Hamisi fell asleep to the sound of lions outside his village. Today, the lions are gone, mirroring a continent-wide trend: African wildlife populations have plummeted in recent decades, despite billions spent to protect nature. Drawing on examples of successful conservation efforts from the grasslands of South Africa to the woodlands of Kenya, he shows how we've been attempting to solve the wrong problem — and makes the case that conservation works best when it makes economic sense. (Recorded at TED Countdown Summit 2025 on June 17, 2025) Join us in person at a TED conference: https://tedtalks.social/events Become a TED Member to support our mission: https://ted.com/membership Subscribe to a TED newsletter: https://ted.com/newsletters Follow TED! X: https://www.twitter.com/TEDTalks Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ted Facebook: https://facebook.com/TED LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/ted-conferences TikTok: https://www.t ## Транскрипт ### Segment 1 (00:00 - 05:00) [] Picture this. You are a 5- or 6-year-old getting ready to go to bed, and then suddenly, you hear these lion roars. This is how it was in the early '70s in my village in Taveta in Kenya, on the southeastern slope of Mount Kilimanjaro. It was scary then, as it might be now, but looking back, I see it as something powerful, a beautiful reminder of how close we lived with nature. Sadly, the nighttime roars and the many animals that once roamed our village are gone. What happened in my village has happened across Africa. Our forests, savannahs, grasslands and wetlands are disappearing very fast and the hardest-hit places are community lands where people and wildlife lived side-by-side. In five decades, much of the land outside protected areas has been converted into either farms or settlements. It's not surprising that the population of wildlife in Africa has declined by three quarters in the same period. This is not just a sad statistic, but a crisis. All of us know that we've spent billions on conservation in Africa, yet wildlife keeps on declining, and people are going deeper into poverty and becoming even more vulnerable to climate change. Why? Because we've been applying ecological solutions to fix what are inherently economic problems. The truth is that conservation works only if it creates income to people living closest to nature. That means we have to make nature not just something to protect, but something to invest in. That's why we have to grow capitalist solutions in conservation. Not the exploitative type, but models where nature drives business, where healthy ecosystems bring real income to families, where nature conservation and economic growth go hand in hand. This is beginning to happen across Africa, from the shrublands of Namaqualand in South Africa to the winding tributaries of Okavango River in Botswana, the grasslands, savannah woodlands in Kenya, Namibia, Mozambique, Madagascar and Zimbabwe to the forests of Ivory Coast, Liberia and Congo, we are building better natural resource management systems and incentivizing efforts to bring back wildlife populations. I want to give you a couple of examples. In many parts of South Africa, herding livestock isn't just a job, it's a way of life. But many rural farmers there are struggling to get their cattle to the market. Even though they own half of the livestock in the country, only five percent of meat comes from them, and the grass continues to suffer as cattle graze on the same land all year round. And when their cattle gets to the market, if they do, they are often malnourished and can't fetch a fair price. There's a better way. Let me introduce to you Miss Mpolokeng Ngubo, a great livestock farmer and herder from Eastern Cape, South Africa. With support from Conservation International, she and other farmers have turned back to traditional grazing, where livestock moves between pasture and allowing land to rest and recover. Healthy grasslands means healthy livestock to them, and the change here is that those farmers have agreed to protect the land as they access a cattle market that comes directly to them. No middlemen, no long trips. And it works. Miss Mpolokeng’s cow, in recent auction, the cattle fetched the highest bid in the market. Her smile tells it all. And this is how it works. Because the model is not top-down. It's built on what communities already know and practice. Now the grazing pressure has reduced, and with that, the fields are now humming with insects and chattering buds, wildlife is getting restored, one grazing cycle at a time. And with cash streaming to farmers' pockets. ### Segment 2 (05:00 - 09:00) [5:00] Now in Kenya, business solutions are taking off, too. In Tulu Hills, farmers have transitioned from slash and burn to one of the earliest forest carbon projects. Here they are conserving and protecting one million acres of wilderness. And around Maasai Mara, all of you perhaps have heard about Maasai Mara, communities living around there have come up together, pulled their land voluntarily and formed this big wildlife conservancies that they own. They leased these lands to safari operators and ecologists and get incomes while maintaining their land rights and way of life. During the COVID pandemic, tourism revenues crashed. And what happened? The conservancies took up loans and paid the leases. When the pandemic eased and tourism came back, they repaid those loans quickly, showing that capitalist solutions are actually maturing. This intervention has brought 180,000 hectares under community protection, doubling the space for wildlife in that area. And the impact to the families who are in this arrangement is transformational. On average, a household takes around 230 dollars per month. A little bit less than starting salary of a university graduate in Kenya, but in a place where jobs are scarce and the future is uncertain, nature is not only surviving, but it's paying bills, it's putting kids through schools, it is bringing dignity, security and choice. These are the kind of 21-century conservation approaches that we must accelerate. We must bring tomorrow's conservation business solutions today because this is the right vision for Africa. It's the vision that our changing climate demands. It is a vision, ultimately, that ultimately people benefit. Not because they gave up their culture, but because they protected it. Now ladies and gentlemen, allow me to say this provoking, perhaps an annoying statement. People talk about money as if it's the root of all evil. But in conservation of nature, it's clearly the lack of it that’s a true root of evil, that's driving the forces of degradation and destruction that we see today in those landscapes. Time is not on our side. We have to work with dedication, speed and scale. But the tide is on our side, because today, communities are stronger, their voice is louder in decision making, and the stronger rights and safeguards. Finance and market connectivity today, supported by an expanding technological space, has made it easier today, more than before, to invest, to innovate and build businesses with and for communities that are living closest to nature. And policies and incentives by governments are taking a different level. For example, the wildlife profit- enhancing policies of South Africa, Zimbabwe and Namibia to the Kenya carbon and conservancy policies, more revenue is now streaming to families and communities that are closest to nature. Doesn't matter which ecosystem you are talking about. Because it's only through economic prosperity of people living alongside nature that nature, wildlife and wilderness will return. Maybe then the wildlife will be restored around my village, and maybe then, maybe, my grandchildren will get to hear the lions roar back again. (Lion roars) (Applause)