# OpenAIs Problems Are Getting Worse....

## Метаданные

- **Канал:** TheAIGRID
- **YouTube:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSb784lNw_c
- **Дата:** 09.03.2025
- **Длительность:** 11:34
- **Просмотры:** 47,220

## Описание

Join my AI Academy - https://www.skool.com/postagiprepardness 
🐤 Follow Me on Twitter https://twitter.com/TheAiGrid
🌐 Checkout My website - https://theaigrid.com/


Links From Todays Video:
https://www.theinformation.com/articles/microsofts-ai-guru-wants-independence-from-openai-thats-easier-said-than-done

Welcome to my channel where i bring you the latest breakthroughs in AI. From deep learning to robotics, i cover it all. My videos offer valuable insights and perspectives that will expand your knowledge and understanding of this rapidly evolving field. Be sure to subscribe and stay updated on my latest videos.

Was there anything i missed?

(For Business Enquiries)  contact@theaigrid.com

Music Used

LEMMiNO - Cipher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0q5PR1xpA0
CC BY-SA 4.0
LEMMiNO - Encounters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdwWCl_5x2s

#LLM #Largelanguagemodel #chatgpt
#AI
#ArtificialIntelligence
#MachineLearning
#DeepLearning
#NeuralNetworks
#Robotics
#DataScience

## Содержание

### [0:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSb784lNw_c) Segment 1 (00:00 - 05:00)

so are things getting worse for open AI recently there was a story about how Microsoft are essentially having a bunch of issues with open Ai and apparently Microsoft may actually want to you know get a little bit more independence from open aai rather than relying on their AI models so let's actually take a look at this story because it goes a little bit deeper than you do think so let's take a look at this article which is the one that was really intriguing and this was the article that had a lot of people wreaking out about open ey and Microsoft's relationship now essentially one of the big points of contention was the fact that mustafi suan wasn't getting the answers that he wanted apparently there was a recent video conversation which is of course basically a zoom call in which Mustafa sulan wasn't getting the answers he wanted now if you don't know who already Mustafa suan he's actually the CEO at Microsoft's AI department so this is the guy that is leading the AI section of Microsoft and of course these individuals who are working at the Microsoft AI section they are really trying to work with open AI because of course they have some partnership now of course it says here that last fall during a video call with senior leaders at openi and Microsoft maafa suan who leads Microsoft's in-house AI unit wanted openi staffers to actually explain how its latest model 01 worked according to someone present for the conversation and two other Microsoft employees but he was actually peeved that open AI didn't provide Microsoft with the documentation about how it had programmed o1 to think about users queries before answering them and I think the reason that open AI have done this is because they want to keep that Chain of Thought to be as proprietary as possible of course there are different methods I think everyone knows that the model thinks before responding but they want to essentially of course figure out how 01 Works behind the scenes so that they could potentially replicate that themselves now I'm not sure on the agreements between open and Microsoft but I don't think it was written in that open AI would reveal all of the secrets to their models and clearly it's you know shown that Microsoft were really frustrated by this or should I say Mustafa sulan now the crazy thing about this is that I can understand why opening ey wouldn't want to reveal those Secrets because of course those secrets are essentially at least the key to their Moote so the fact that they wouldn't want to share them doesn't make sense because otherwise Microsoft wouldn't really need them and of course that information could proliferate throughout the AI Community resulting in a diminished lead for open AI considering the fact that many companies are circling around the generative AI space which is of course something that openai are trying to keep the lead on now if we take a look at what Microsoft have already done I'm not sure you guys might remember this but Microsoft have their own model which is ma1 and this is where Microsoft are readying a new AI model to compete with Google so if you remember mic moft have been internally working on a secret model because they wanted a model that could perform as well as chat gbt so that they would have less Reliance and this was you know something that they spoke about I think this was a couple of months ago so if you actually take a look at this you can see here the model was called May A1 500b and this was supposed to be a you know large model which is of course larger than the open source models that Microsoft previously trained that is of course relating to the Five series which is a series of really small models that Microsoft trained that you know are looking to go on device for many different use cases and the Five series is actually a really great series because it is you know roughly the size of 2B 7B and I think 14b and those models have comparative performance to models like chat GPT but with the mai1 they actually wanted this model to be basically like GPT 4 and of course they wanted this model to be really good but you can see that open AI weren't willing to reveal some of the secrets that they actually used to get to this level so you can see right here it says raising his voice suon told open AI employees including miror morati then openi CTO that the startup wasn't holding up its end of the wide ranging deal that it had with Microsoft and then the call ended abruptly so he was like look you guys aren't really giving out your information what's going on here and you know the call ended abruptly so that is of course not something great and you know the article continues to talk about how there is conflict in mandates according to Executives in his unit so first he must simultaneously Carry On the Open AI partnership through which the two companies share information about AI research and development but at the same time he also is under orders to put Microsoft on a path to self-sufficiency in AI so it won't have to rely indefinitely on open eyes technology for the majority of Microsoft's AI products so you can see right here it's pretty you know difficult to do that because you know they're conflicting interests if you're working with opening on AI of course

### [5:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSb784lNw_c&t=300s) Segment 2 (05:00 - 10:00)

you're going to be talking with them about a lot of AI research and if you know talk about certain pieces of AI research which are breakthrough pieces then you could of course use that knowledge and information to power Microsoft's AI products but of course these two companies on the model side then of course they would be competing so opening I probably thinking you know what it probably doesn't make sense but all of this isn't really good because one of the problems and I'm guessing this is why Microsoft is kind of frustrated with opening eye is the fact that you know the recently complet to training of the family of Microsoft's models internally referred to as maai that perform nearly as well as the other models from openi this was something that didn't actually work and I will talk about that in a moment but they did recently complete training of this and remember they actually spoke about this last year I think it was mid last year and now we're in 2025 when they were training those models and apparently they're also training reasoning models which use a chain of thought and of course this could compete directly with open AI which once again is what I'm talking about so it's not really great that openi is facing such competition from a company that is working closely with it you can also see here that you know Microsoft staff already experimenting with swapping out the Microsoft models which are far larger than an earlier family of Microsoft models called fire for opening eyes models in Microsoft's co-pilot and the company is considering releasing these models later this year as an API a software hook that would allow people to weave in these models to their own app so there a potential for these models to be released as an API later on this year which would be super intriguing and of course at San's directions Microsoft has been hedging its bets further by trying out models from opening eyes competitors to even power co-pilot and you can see right here that one of the craziest things about this as well is that Microsoft's also been hedging its bets to actually look at different models to try out you know co-pilot so I don't know if this is because they've been arguing or there have been some disagreements but Microsoft looking to you know get some models like deep seek and those other models you can see right here it says from anthropic from musk's AI along with open- Source models from Deep seek and meta platforms this is what they're looking into to see how those can work when powering copala and I honestly think that maybe people wouldn't tell that much I don't know about you guys but anytime I've used copala it's been very rudimentary and I don't think the model needs to be that good in order to achieve its CHS that's maybe just me cuz maybe I don't use it that much but I would presume that most cases most used cases for copila are pretty timid so if you do swap out the model maybe it might not impact user engagement that much that is of course not really a good look for opening eye of course you do want Microsoft to be you know using your models kind of dependent on your models so you can definitely build them for the API essentially so you can see right here that it says it's an incredibly competitive and creative time suan said in an interview we are now using under the hood essentially all of the models from major Labs including all of the open source models and we are experimenting with them we're flighting them and that's not what anyone thought would happen so it seems like look they are no longer just depending on open eye because of course if they're not you going to be like you know working with OPI in terms of getting that kind of data from them so that they can power their own ones and you know since the you know ma1 there were actually some failures it makes sense for them to you know kind of look out elsewhere to see what kind of other models they can use for co- pilot and I think it's a situation where maybe the chat gbt API is consider considerably more expensive than other free Alternatives like deeps you can see right here as well like I said before um mai1 I'm just going to call it my1 or the my models took nearly a year due to technical setback so abrupt changes in strategy and the departures of several Microsoft veterans who agreed who disagreed with suliman's management and Technical approach according to interviews with six current and former Microsoft employees so maybe it's painting the picture here that maybe sulliman was a bit of a disagreeable person because it's saying that you know six people disagreed with his technical approach and it's saying that you know during that time while Microsoft were kind of stuck with this one model this my model opening ey had already gone and published several batches of Cutting Edge models and those setbacks have left some Outsiders unconvinced that suan can deliver on his Grand strategy so this is something that you know internally Microsoft it seems like things aren't going that well especially with them trying to figure out what they're going to do with the AI models and the reason I said this is not good for open AI is because if they you know reduce their Reliance on open AI then of course open ey won't really be serving them anymore it says here from the outside it's still not clear what they have to show for the creation of this unit under suon a year later this is what Adventure capitalists is saying and what's crazy is that at the time the models were actually stated performance but they declined to specify how they were going to use those models in practice and if we look back at this interview this was an interview with satin Adella on the dakis Patel podcast and this was something that was really interesting because one of the things that you know that was actually spoken about in this episode was the fact that Microsoft are going to be using open- Source models and the fact that they are going to be looking at a variety of different things not just relying on open Ai and they spoke about how the model space is changing and open ai's dominance won't necessarily always be there so

### [10:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSb784lNw_c&t=600s) Segment 3 (10:00 - 11:00)

that I think is what will happen even in the model side so there will be open source there will be a governor just like on Windows one of the big Lessons Learned for me was um you if you have an close Source operating system there will be a complement uh to it which will be open source um and so to some degree that's a real check on what happens and so I think in models there is one dimension of uh maybe there will be a few close Source there will definitely be an open source alternative and the open Source alternative will actually make sure the close Source uh winner take all is mitigated so that's kind of at least my feeling on the model side and then even in the CNBC interview which I showed at the beginning you can see that there were some not claims but some questions being put to Sati nadela about the opening eye relationship being a bit Rocky at the moment and seeing where things are heading from there we're going to go off longer term and build your own Frontier models um and that there's a disconnect or of some sort between wman and Mustafa who you hired for uh to run your AI program can you speak to that I mean look I I think uh the partnership with uh open AI to us is a critical partnership we love it it's working it's created a lot of value for us uh and we plan to just continue forward with it it's true that on Azure today there are other models there open source models we have our own small language models and we'll continue to have all of that because customers at the end of the day are going to demand Choice there and that's fine and we'll make sure we support it let me know what you guys think about that is it the end of open ey on Microsoft

---
*Источник: https://ekstraktznaniy.ru/video/13234*