# Ex OpenAI Employee Gives Warning About The Economy

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### [0:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6bPt9oyoa8) Segment 1 (00:00 - 05:00)

so Miles Brundage is a prominent researcher and policy expert in the field of AI and he's mainly known for his work at open AI now this guy joined openai in 2018 as a research scientist and he later became the head of policy research now recently in October Brundage actually announced his departure from open aai to focus on Independent research in the nonprofit sector and he cited many concerns about the industry's Readiness to manage AGI safely and expressed a desire to have more freedom to publish his research without the corporate constraint now he's not the only person that's left openai and cited many concerns we have Andre Kathy who was one of the co-founders of openai we also had Jan L who left open ey due to safety concerns we also had Ilia SATA who left during the drama and basically went off to start his own company safe super intelligence Inc we also had Peter Deng who recently left the company who was one of the product leads and we also had John Schulman leave who was one of the initial creators of chat GPT and not to mention most recently Mira morati departing which comes to a surprise to many of us as we wouldn't think that the CTO of a company about to achieve Monumental success would leave so abruptly now in this interview he actually gives us five key things about the future of AI on his podcast where he actually discusses with some members of The New York Times exactly why he left open Ai and some of the things he's going on now one of the things that he actually talks about is the fact that retirement is going to be soon and so forth he it doesn't need a law degree or whatever so I think it's basically impossible to fully predict but I do think people should save money and I don't think that like so you are you have are saving for retirement personally I think that retirement will come for most people sooner than they think um in the sense that you know it'll I think finally some good news on this podcast yeah assuming you know we're all here to be talking about retirement you know and when you know AGI is here but yeah I think that it will be technologically possible if you know and politically possible if kind of policy makers do their job to have this huge economic Bounty and for people to basically retire early and uh you know have a high standard of living that being said you know you might have more kind of you know robot Butlers if you know have some savings from before than if you didn't so I don't and I think people there will always be things that people want to buy there always you know there'll be a demand for like well I want to have food served to me by a human and you know not a robot or and so I do think kin wants yeah so I think money will still be a thing would be my guess so him stating that retirement is soon isn't something that is a surprise one of the anthropic Chief officers who actually made a statement on her blog post actually said something that I still think that most people are ignoring and this was one of the things that the video actually did get a decent amount of popularity because I think people are starting to understand exactly how the future is going to be changing and just how rapid some of those changes might actually be so I'm going to read this quickly for you guys I'm not going to gloss over it for too long but essentially the bit that I've highlighted here is the fact that she says I stand at the edge of a technological development that seems likely should it arrive to end employment as I know it which is a you know I I guess you could say this is a pretty profound statement considering that she is at anthropic and of course at anthropic they are working on Frontier models they know exactly what's coming next and it's quite likely that she has probably baked in her prediction for the future of employment we all know that is quite uncertain for many different Industries but when you have many people in these Frontier Labs clearly stating that look employment is going to swiftly change the arrival of AGI I think it's important to know that yes this is going to be something that is certainly going to happen and another bit that I did actually highlight and this is something that I posted on Twitter recently was the fact that um I guess you could say that a lot of people are ignoring exactly what's going on particularly because I think it's sometimes uncomfortable to confront the reality of the truth and you can clearly see that in the statement where it says that the general reaction to language models among knowledge workers is one of denial they grasp the ever diminishing number of places where models still struggle rather than noticing the ever growing range of tasks where they still have or past human level so this is basically just taking it looks most people just simply ignore the fact that AI is consuming a lot of what we do in terms of available drob roles but people will always argue against it by saying look it can't do this it can't write award-winning books it can't invent this it can't do that but many of us also don't do those things and when we look at what miles brage has said here is that look retirement is probably going to come sooner than we think that if that happens it means that the economy is also going to change now he wasn't the only person that said this a while back I made a video that was also talking about how opening ey aren't particularly being honest and how Eric Weinstein actually spoke about this in a short interview where he says that he doesn't even think that like a lot of these companies that are you know currently now building AI systems they can't be honest because of how the future is going to be just take a look at this cuz it's one of the most thought-provoking things that I've heard because it basically says that look these companies are building systems that are so incredible in the future that if they are honest people just won't even know what to think Sam he's

### [5:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6bPt9oyoa8&t=300s) Segment 2 (05:00 - 10:00)

taken a lot of very bad blood between him and he's like Edward Teller he's struggling with the real thing we demonized Edward Teller we're going to demonize Sam Altman but Sam is looking directly at this and we're not listening Sam was talking about Ubi years and years ago yeah he's like I have to do experiment because I have to take care of people because I know what's coming right does that guy get any credit for that I didn't even know that was one of his things holy cow my wife's an economist we were talking to Sam and Sam's just like look this is going to break capitalism he's right summarize what Eric Weinstein said right there he basically just said just look guys uh it's pretty incredible when you think about the kinds of Technology we're building and Sam Alman is one of the people who you know knew about this for quite some time he was talking about Ubi you know such in a way that most people couldn't even fathom when he was you know beginning to talk about it and you know of course he's run recent experiments looked at the results because this is of course a technology that is going to fundamentally change the way the economy works this is of course something that I don't even think like most governments are even you know thinking about and this is also what miles brandit says he says that you know basically when you actually think about how the economy is going to change we might have to understand that Ubi and this you know kind of you know workplace where a lot of people are working getting essentially I guess you could call it income from the government I'm not sure if you want to call it a freedom dividend some kind of you know Ubi whatever you know whatever term you would like to you know Place upon that kind of income that's going to be coming from potentially the automation of entire sectors and industries this thing potentially is going to be absolutely inevitable as the economy wouldn't be able to function without do you want to share your thoughts on how um society would work in a world where uh AI can do everything of economic value like how do how are people's needs taken care of the government provides or a robots do everything for us I think what is probably going to happen um you know so that we're all here and safe and healthy and so forth is there will be a much larger economy uh that AI will you know each year over the next you know few years GDP growth will significantly increase uh and you know if we do the right thing in terms of Taxation and so forth and you know having a robust safety net whether that looks like you know uh you know basic income or something else that people will be able to share in that Bounty uh and people will be able to choose to just kind of take that you know basic income or you know and you know live pretty comfortable lives you know the kinds of lives that a lot of people work very hard and you know work very long hours to live today so I don't know how it'll play out but I think that'll be technologically possible so yeah this is where you can see miles Brundage basically talking about how you know he doesn't really know how this is going to play out but of course one of the scenarios is exactly how he says you know people are going to essentially have to get some kind of income from the government because when you think about what AI is going to be able to do what the kind of tasks it's going to be able to now do and then of course in the future that even you know like how crazy the economy is going to get because AI is going to pretty much eat everything that you can do on a computer there are complete industries that are going to be uprooted and we're already of course seeing signs of that and this is something that like a lot of companies right now and I really want to drive this point home to you guys a lot of companies right now they aren't focused on this because it's not their job to focus on how to take care of people when they get their job displace their job is to just simply make the best products that you can have and of course doing so a byproduct of that is of course the fact that a lot of the jobs that are currently existing on the market are just simply going to disappear or become increasingly difficult to get hired for considering the fact that AI can do it faster cheaper and more reliably now one of the things I actually talk about in this interview was something about AI safety so I know most of you guys don't really have the idea or particularly the notion that AGI is going to go Rogue but for those of you who are more on the edge I guess you could say you know a little bit more of open to different scenarios where AI could have different abilities and you know potentially just go completely Rogue one of the things that they mentioned in this podcast which is you know rather hilarious is the fact that Sam Alman actually does have a doomsday bunker in which he's preparing for one of the scenarios where AGI might go Rogue I know it does sound completely insane but Sam Alman does have some kind of structure in place so that if things do go Rogue he's at least protected now for those of you who are thinking that this is some kind of rumor it's actually quite true Sam Alman has been pretty open about the fact that he prepares for you know nuclear style fallouts and of course scenarios where AGI or ASI or AI just completely goes Rogue and you know tries to kill everyone because I think Sam mman you know has understood from quite a while ago that this is definitely a reality you can see at this article he says that you know he's joked that bunkers won't really matter if there's an AI apocalypse and this is basically AR Business Insider where they actually talk about how the ultra Rich are obsessed with their Doomsday Bunkers but Sam Alman said it won't matter if there's an AI Apocalypse Now basically this article just kind of states that like look the ultra Rich seem to be obsessed with their billionaire bunkers but of course Sam mman says he has

### [10:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6bPt9oyoa8&t=600s) Segment 3 (10:00 - 15:00)

structures but not a bunker and of course none of this is going to help if AGI goes wrong now of course I understand what samman means like if AGI goes wrong and you do have like let's say some super intelligent ASI you know being that is able to do things that we would consider magic I mean I don't think a bunker is going to keep you safe when you think about the kinds of you know abilities that kind of system would have it's probably going to be able to get you anyways but of course the funny thing is that Sam mman is hedging his bets you can see another from you know earlier years where you can actually look at how Sam Alman is stating that you know look I really just want to be prepared there was this article from 2023 where it says inside open AI CEO samman fixation on death and the apocalypse it says here that the known doomsday prepper was well prepared for disaster also in 2016 he told the New Yorker that he kept a stash of Guns Gold potassium iodide antibiotics batteries water gas Mas from the Israeli Defense Force and a big patch of land in Big Sir I can fly to in case of a lethal synthetic virus or nuclear war and when the coronavirus pandemic hit Alman said he spent the first few weeks of lockdown in a state of isolation and he HED up at home cutting off any outside contact and even disinfecting his veget and there is another article that basically states that this guy is really worried about you know future Technologies of course you can say well the article says that you know samman basically said that look I do worry of course I mean I worry about it a lot of course you can see this is basically talking about you know so many AI companies are now working on either the next Industrial Revolution or the apocalypse and this is something we really have to you know face the reality of because we have to remember that it isn't just anthropic it isn't just opening eye we are in a global Marketplace which means we also need to think about the other countries who are developing rapidly capable AI systems you've got China you've got Russia you've got you know probably some companies in Europe I mean it looks pretty crazy with as to what the future does hold but there is something that we do need to actually think about now the thing is remember how I just said that like it isn't just us that we have to you know think about there's of course other countries one of the thing that you know most people are focused on is of course opening eye but miles Brundage actually says that you know it's not even just opening eye when you actually look across the board at the companies that are AGI ready none of them are ready for that kind of Technology even if it just manages to spawn in and when I say spawn in I mean they manage to discover some breakthrough and things get a little out of hand none of them are ready for the kinds of technology that they are developing so I mean I it wasn't so much about opening eyes specifically although obviously like my perspective on what the gaps are in the industry or in formed by makit open the eye but I'm pretty confident that there's no other lab that is totally on top of things and you know if you read what people are saying you know they they're not saying that they're on top of things so that kind of crazy situation of like really fast progress plus you know the people who know the most saying that we're not ready is kind of uh kind of my fault yeah he's basically said here that look nobody else is ready open AI AR ready so it's kind of something that we need to be a little bit more careful about because if we're not we're going to end up in a really bad scenario now he also discusses the fact that like of course if you know AGI is coming and if you were working at one of these Frontier Labs how would you change your personal life to accommodate the fact that there is alien intelligence possibly arriving within the next 3 to 5 years what does it mean to be ready for AGI and how has your answer to that question made maybe changed over the past few years if it has yeah so I think that over the next few years there will likely be you know AI systems that are built that you know whether you call it AGI or not like the D the trend line is clearly towards systems that can basically do anything a person can do you know remotely on a computer operate the mouse and keyboard it can you know even you know uh even you know look like a human in a video chat and so forth I think people should be thinking about what that means governments and in terms of you know sectors to tax and education to invest in and you know what is even the point of Education in a world in which you know some of the jobs that are kind of remaining and you know there're going to be new ones to be clear I'm not saying you know all jobs are going to disappear but it'll be disruptive and people need to think ahead about what does this mean in terms of you know the purpose of education is it to kind of and in that law statement it's pretty clear that like look of course you definitely need to make sure that you know the entire Society is ready for AGI you've got to think about policy you education there are so many different factors because AI is going to infiltrate so many different Industries and when you think about AGI want to get here we have to ensure that we are ready for this so it's going to be super interesting to see exactly what the future is like it's always fascinating to look at how certain individuals who Ed to work at open a the kinds of things they are saying once they are now no longer at these companies because of course they can now of course speak a little bit more freely and a little bit more openly about what they truly believe the future of AI and the economy is going to look like

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