# The Biggest Problem With the ANTM Documentary

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- **Канал:** Jessica Kobeissi
- **YouTube:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ5QjE5CQno
- **Дата:** 23.02.2026
- **Длительность:** 50:25
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- **Источник:** https://ekstraktznaniy.ru/video/17831

## Описание

Let's review REALITY CHECK: Inside America's Next Top Model (Netflix Documentary) - Episode 1. 
EPISODE 2: https://youtu.be/SO_j_uWOtzU
EPISODE 3: https://youtu.be/rnFxUUKQMRQ

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## Транскрипт

### Segment 1 (00:00 - 05:00) []

I've been making reaction videos on America's Next Top Model for many years now. So much so that two of my clips from my reaction videos have made it into the actual Netflix documentary on America's Next Top Model. I had no idea. People were commenting that I was in the documentary, and that's how I found out. Today, I'm going to be watching the documentary for the first time and seeing if all of my theories and speculation over the years was true. Like, is are some of them right? Do they have merit? I'll never know until I watch this documentary. I mean, unless they dodge accountability and don't actually answer any questions. Just I feel like that's what's gonna happen. It's gonna be like, well, you know, I don't actually know even though I was there and I was a part of the production. I have no I don't know, sir. If you don't know who does I have a bingo card with things I think they're going to mention this in this documentary. So, if you want to follow along, feel free. Let me read to you guys some of the things I think will be mentioned in this. It was of the time. The industry is tough. We were just following 2000's beauty standards defense. It launched my career versus it ruined my career. They blame the models. You signed up for this. Smise teaching HTT reference. Tyra saying she was teaching life lessons. Someone calls Tyra a genius. Tyra reframes criticism as empowerment. Looking back, it's complicated. Expert explains the villain edit. Former producer, you didn't see everything. The blackface re swapping photo shoot mentioned long pause before answering a hard question. Someone says America's Next Top Model would never air today. So I'll be following my bingo card in the next one. I'm speaking as a photographer and person who has spoken to the models from America's Next Top Model. So just based on those experiences, that's my perspective. Uh that's the perspective I will be speaking from. Oh, and lastly, check out Sarah Hartzhorn's book, You Want to Be on Top. She wrote a book on her experience from being on the show. So, I'm going to have a link to that in the description where you can buy the book if you're a fan of the show. Just a disclaimer, everything I say in this video is my own personal opinion and speculation, not fact. — It was a reflection of the time. — She looks — Did someone say it's a reflection of the time? We have to cross it off on the bingo card. Who said that? It wasn't Tyra. I was expecting Tyra to say it was of the time. Someone else said it. I'm going to have to rewatch that first one already. Not even a minute in. — That's exactly how it was. — Girl, you like you all. — Did she say that? Did Whitney did — Did Whitney say it was a reflection of the time? — Interesting. I don't know why I was expecting Tyra to be the one to say that or someone from production. From talking to the models that were on the show, they could be on the same cycle but have totally different experiences. Like one model could have had the best time on the show and had a good career afterwards. Another model could have been through something traumatizing on the show and never modeled again, never wanted to model. So, same cycle, two different experiences. It's not surprising that they're going to have models who defend the show in any kind of way. I'm actually expecting that because everyone's experience was so different. — Are actually going to switch your ethnicities. What is happening? I knew they're going to include the blackface race swapping photo shoot. Blackface race swapping photos mentioned. We already have two. I might even get this whole side before we hit 5 minutes. — Tyra Banks is once again trending for her crimes against humanity. — Tyra Banks is She would have my back. I was ultimately proven wrong. — Mr. J saying that he thought Tyra was going to have his back, but ultimately she didn't. What happened? Are they not? They're not friends anymore. I don't think the intro of the documentary. Very interesting. The lineup of models that they have. I saw Joanie. I saw Bri, Danielle, Whitney, you. They picked good models to share their story. Kenya, I saw Kenya who I also did an interview with her and we reacted to her episode. I know what happened to her, which was absolutely horrible and terrible. I wonder how they're going to explain that one. H — few or — is she on an iPad doing this? What is she doing? — I'm going to take you to 2020 like overnight like just a whole different lens. Look how wrong this is. — What I think is important is to understand where that came from. — Oh god. So Tyra sits down and she starts off by saying, "Let me take you back to 2020. I was thinking, "Oh, let me take you back to the 2000s. " But no, she references the 2020s and saying, "Oh, COVID hit. Everyone was sitting at home and was re-watching America's Next Top Model. " And then that's when the outrage started. Like all the Gen Z Tik Tockers were posting about it. And that's when she's like, it was like overnight everyone hated it. And then only then that's when overnight everyone started

### Segment 2 (05:00 - 10:00) [5:00]

finding the problems within America's XTO model. So it's they frame it like the Gen Z Tik Tockers are the ones who like started this thing where over no before then before 2020 there was not a single problem from America's XP. Everyone loved the show. So it's kind of like oh after co everyone started watching it it's in its entirety and then they started to not like it. H that's I wonder what happened there. So they watched your show and realized how problematic it is and she's like, "Oh, it's because of co. " It seems like she's trying to blame co a little. I saw Gen Z in there, too. And Tik Tok. They always try to add in Tik Tok to discredit people like, "Oh, it's these Tik Tockers. They were dancing and doing uh America's Next Top Model problematic moments. " But before then, everything was great. All the models were happy. — What I think is important is to understand where that came from. I knew she was going to say something like this. Did I already not Was that already on the bingo card? Two times on the bingo card already. We're four minutes in and she's already saying I think it's important to understand where that came from. Don't expect this to be a documentary where they're taking accountability cuz already she's trying to explain away certain things. — I remember my very first season in Paris. — Oh my god. Stop. She's No, she's not bringing up Paris. She's like, "When I was in Paris," she used to reference that a lot on the show. "When I was, you know, in this European country, I used to go to 120 castings per day. I used to do this in Paris. When I was walking the runway for this, it feels like we're back on the show. " — Kind of hurt. You know, they were like, "Oh, we don't want any black girls. " — That hurts deep. So, it starts off with them talking about Tyra's modeling, her the beginning of her modeling, how she was not accepted because she was a black model in the industry and it was harder for her and she was rejected from multiple agencies. She was finding it hard to navigate the modeling industry as a black woman. She even says someone told her, "Oh, your nose is too big. Oh, your lips are too full. " — And I wanted to fight against the fashion industry. — Tyra says two things. I wanted to fight against the industry and I wanted this show to represent what it took to become a model. Unfortunately, I don't think they successfully did that. I think it was treated more or maybe in the beginning it could have started out like that, but then it turned into just a reality show that focused more on entertainment and drama than it did actually modeling and caring about the welfare of the models. I feel like she uh starting in the industry was told no and was rejected and was treated terribly and so she says I wanted to fight against this. But I think in turn she created something where she perpetuated that even more. She was taking what people did to her and doing that to these models on America's Next Top Model. — This was my way to get back. — This is back at work. Sometimes people when wrong is done to them, they take what was done to them and they do it to someone else. That's exactly what I think happened here. — Is he in the documentary? — I remember. — No, they have the executive producer of America's Next Top Model, Ken Mock, on this documentary. This man's not telling us anything. He's going to be there just to back up what Tyra says. Oh yeah, it was of the time. Should I cross off we were just following 2000's beauty standards defense? I feel like that counts, right? I'm going to wait. Ken Mock agreeing to this. That's crazy. What is this man going to say? And is he going to tell us something we don't already know? Inspirational music playing while they introduce Ken Mock, the producer of America's Next Top Model, who in my opinion was responsible for a lot of the behind the scenes of this show. She's probably not very bright. I said, "Look, what Tyra, what is it that you want to do? " — Tyra was probably a successful model at this point. And he's saying when he ca she came to him pitching this idea, the his first thoughts were she's not very bright, that she's probably not going to do any work and it's a vanity project, which goes to show you how he really feels about models. She's not going to do any of the work. I mean, she's just a model. This was his initial thought of Tyra Banks. Okay. Probably a successful model at this point to be able to pitch an idea to an executive producer like this. If he thinks this of Tyra within his first meeting with her, what is he makes you think? What does he think of the models on this show throughout the years? Just think about that. He's like he's admitting this openly about Tyra. You couldn't pay me to admit this on camera for a documentary. Is Tyra watching this back? To me, it

### Segment 3 (10:00 - 15:00) [10:00]

already feels like he doesn't like models. He thinks they're dumb. doesn't take them seriously. Wow. Wonder what happened during the show. — She had an idea. America's next summer. This — is the first person I called. Oh my god. I love that. Tyra tells us that she pitched this idea to Ken Mock, the executive producer. So, they referenced shows like American Idol, Making the Band, which was a show that Ken Mock worked on. and he was pitching the idea of a different format for America's Next Top Model, saying that, okay, we have a girl, we have girls in the house, and then each week a girl goes home and we would need judges. We need like a format for this show. And so Tyra calls up Miss Jay, who taught her how to runway walk. And Miss Jay knew Tyra since she was 16 years old. She recommended him for the show. He was the queen of the catwalk. and Ken Mock was all about it already. We see the show, they're like getting the judges, they're picking out the judges for the show and they have this format and they're going with it. So, this is how the show kind of they started getting all the pieces together for the show. — Tyra tap J. Emanuel, who was her makeup artist to be our photo shoot director. — Mr. J, he's he looks ready to tell it all. He's like, "Okay, are we rolling? " So, they pick Mr. J to be the photo shoot director. He was Tyra's makeup artist. They get Miss Jay to do the runway coaching. They get Mr. J to do the photo shoot direction. And they have Tyra. They're ready to pitch the show. — It was just no. — What? — No. — Networks were turning it down. — They keep getting rejected. Each network tells them no. This show was not getting the interest they thought it would get. — In absolute dead last place, we need to find a hit. They pitched to their very last station after everyone's rejected them. So the former president of UPN is like the dead last stop was us, UPN. So they were rejected from all these other networks. They had no like this is the last pitch for the show. This lady's hilarious. She's like I can guarantee UPN was the last stop on the pitching train. They found the former president. They're like we need you for an interview. Can you come in? — Nobody had done a reality show like this. It was — Wait, was that on my card? Oh no, it was Oh, it says someone says America's Next Top would never air today. Never mind. The former president of UPN was like, "You know what? This has never been done before. We could give this a go. We are your last option. I know that you have nothing else. " So, — if Top Model wasn't picked up, what would I do? where continue to be a supermodel and make money being a supermodel and doing runaways and doing editorials and commercial work. Tyra acts like this was it. Like I have nothing else going on. What am I going to do if this TV show that I'm pitching doesn't work out? Just do what you were doing before. Be a s be your be a supermodel. — Where would I go? Where would what would I be? It looked like she had a very successful career and she would have continued to she still have that successful career had. But it's just funny how she's like, "What? I don't know what else I would have done. I have no other skills except just being a supermodel, talented supermodel. " The show gets green lit. They get a yes from UPN Network. They start the auditioning process. They get hundreds of submissions from hopeful models and they pan to Shannon Stewart. — And hello, — Shannon. I take you're a very religious person. Have you always been religious? Wow, interesting. Okay, Ken Mock is the one asking her, "Are you a religious person? " Shannon, even in the submission process, they are asking models about their religious beliefs and their in their past history and things like that. — Super Christian girl — says your application that you're a virgin. — Oh gosh, they played that. — Oh my god, did he just ask her that? And this is just they're just applicants for the show. Shannon is 18 years old, so this just confirms to me that they started from the beginning. It's not like, oh, it eventually turned into this, like, oh, it just got out of control. No, this is season 1 and they're asking these questions. Kenmach then says, I love Shannon, super Christian girl. Okay, this is so weird. She's 18 years old and he's asking, it says, "Here your virgin. " Just wanted to confirm that. Thanks, Shannon. Thank you so much. And you like modeling. Okay, that's great. What are your religious beliefs again? Ken Habiba, what do we do? I was like, I'm going to change some lives today. — You did. The only girl. — You sure did. You definitely changed some lives. Maybe not in the way you ex Well, maybe she did expect that. No, Mataf, you did. They bring in Ebony and Shannon from Cycle One. Such good casting choices for the models to share their stories. Especially we should be hearing from models from cycle one because their

### Segment 4 (15:00 - 20:00) [15:00]

experience is probably so much different than someone from like cycle 24 as the show has progressed. Like this is the first season of the show. So I think season one models very important insight. I'm so excited to hear what they're going to say. — This brown cats suit that I used to wear that brown catsuit whenever I felt hot. — Hey pretty girl. — So Tyra brings up a brown catsuit that she wore when she felt hot. I'm like, "Okay, I don't need to know this information. " What the What did you do to these models? Take Are you going to say you're sorry? That's what I want to know. I'm like, "Okay, the catsuit when you felt Okay. Yeah, you looked good, Tyra. You looked good. " Okay. What? Let's get to it, Tyra. Say, "Okay, what did you do? Are you going to admit your wrongdoing? " She's like, "I wore a brown catsuit when I felt hot. " I got my hair done, Tyra. Habiba, let's get to the Let's get to it. Huh? Start writing out those apology letters. — I remember when I called her name, she just — Isn't that a meme? — She just lost it. Isn't that a meme where she's like very iconic? Ebony, — you had one person of a different color. That was their definition of diverse. — They said that they had to do the final casting with the president of Viacom and they wanted a Latino girl on the show and he did not. He was basically like, "No, please no more diversity. " And Tyra was like, "That's not going to work for me. " — He did not want this Latino girl on the show. Tyra was arguing with less. It almost got physical. — He's like, "We met the quota for the people of color on that show. " Mhm. It's one. That's it. Thank you. Don't ask me again, Tyra. Even though the produ even though Tyra is black and the producer is Asian, the executive producer and he's telling them that they he didn't want more diversity. President of the networks is saying he doesn't want any more diversity, but the people who are producing the show are very diverse. Even the judges are diverse. We have JManuel, Miss Jay, very all people of color pretty much. I'm not saying I don't believe what Tyra is saying. I do believe it, but your whole the whole team of the show is people of color and yeah, he's pushing back against one Latino girl being on the show. I don't that's that doesn't make sense to me. They say that they were shooting the show in a hotel. Judging room was in one room, the girls were staying in another all in one room. They didn't have a lot of experience. It's low budget. They were doing all that they could. They even said that Ken Mock turned into a cameraman because they were a cameraman short. So, they had a lot to prove is what the former president of UPN said. — Most of it is not glamorous at all. — Okay, I feel like I can cross something off. The industry is tough. I'm going to cross that off. So, Mr. J says, "We were showing the behind the scenes of what the fashion world was. " I think that was their intention, but it turned into we need to get ratings. We need drama. Let's ruin some lives while we're at it. Says, "We got we have these girls here. They're pretty. Let's Why not? " Remember the executive producer thought Tyra, the model pitching this show to him, was not very bright. So, you can see that already they didn't think much of these models. That's my opinion of this. — They showed that Oh my god. — Oh my god. Okay, so they show the models getting a Brazilian wax. I had no idea they did this. They were showing this waxing session on reality TV. They're like, "We wanted to show the fashion what the fashion industry is really about. Here's uh some models. " One of them is 18. She's getting a Brazilian wax done. Okay, let's make sure you film that, Kenmach. We're down a cameraman. So, I don't know who's going to Tyra, you filmed this part. This was not just a show about modeling. But — he's like, "This wasn't just about modeling. You don't have to tell me. I don't I think all of us already knew that. " — But it was a Cinderella story. — Hello everybody. — A Cinderella story. Don't bring Cinderella into this cuz at the end she gets a prince. She gets a castle. She has her little cats and mice friends and she has money. She's rich now. She's rich at the end of Cinderella. She's living in a castle with She's royalty. She's literally royalty. Now, we're talking about the makeovers from the show. And Miss Jay says the girls hated it because you were literally chopping their hair off. And if they didn't win the show, they would have to grow it out and they would lose jobs waiting for their hair to grow out. — I already — No, you don't. — That's the entire show. That's literally the whole show. You don't have a choice. We're going to do whatever we want to do. So, you can either do it the easy

### Segment 5 (20:00 - 25:00) [20:00]

way or we can do still chop your hair off, but then we're gonna send you home and you have to wait till that grows out. Okay. So, what's it going to be? This whole show to me is the illusion of choice. Making the models think that they have an option to choose, but they really don't at that. And Mr. Mi Mr. J says it straight up. He's like, "You don't have a choice. " And that's the as honest as they're going to get. — JM is like a genius. Some of them actually — someone was called a genius. Someone calls Tyra a genius. Can we do that for M Mr. J? That we were clo we were close for that one. I heard genius. I'm like my bingo card. Genius. It's going to be genius. Can I put Mr. J? So someone was called a genius though. Okay, I'll wait to hear if they're going to say that about Tyra. — Just because you're not feeling well, you don't want to go. — Should there be another reason? — Well, I mean — they're making him watch it. I love this. Okay, what is he going to say? I want You know what? Yeah, I do want to see his reaction to this and if he thinks his behavior was okay. — Well, I mean, you don't look deathly ill. Oh, yeah. That's the shady part. — You go back home and you do what? Work at Burger King. — The Burger King line. That was probably a little shady. — That's all he has to say about that. He's like, "Oh, it's probably, you know, it's not like, oh yeah, I'm yeah, I feel kind of bad that I said that or I shouldn't have said that. " It's like, "Oh, no. It was just a little bit of shade. " Do they not feel bad at all for the stuff they say? Even now, they're literally showing him this 20, 30 years later. And he's his reaction is like, "Yeah, just shade. " That's all they can say about that. They don't It doesn't feel like they have empathy towards these models. — Very rich and have baby. Mary Rich, have a baby. — Yes, I made fun of — Okay. Yeah, cuz they're Are they being paid for this show? — Yes, I made fun of them and I was just doing my thing. — So, Miss Jay says, "Yes, I made fun of them and I was just doing my thing. " Well, at least he's owning up to it. One can say there's Okay, he's So, he kind of is taking accountability. He's not trying to hide the fact that he was making fun of them. At least he's honest. — I know it sounds ridiculous today, but it was such a different time. Okay, I think I already Okay, I already had that on the card. Well, they said that three times already, so I feel like we're going to be hearing that a lot. They talk about Mr. Jay and Miss Jay's relationship quickly, and then they pan to Ebony. So, the first thing Tyra says to Ebony was, "We see that you're gay. " And then she says, "Oh, are you okay with saying this on national television? " Already, we're seeing the questions that they're asking these models. It feels like they're picking out characteristics of girls that would clash with each other for this show. Not just their looks, you know, they're beautiful girls. They could still they look like a model, but they're also I feel like they were considering more than just the model look when picking the girls for this show. Does that make sense? Like they're asking them these questions about their personal lives. And this is season one. — I had hoped at least they would pull me to the side and say, "How do you want to approach this? " You know, they forgot the danger of that. — Ebony even says she wishes they would have pulled her to the side and asked her how should we approach this. — Judges could be a little cruel. I hate to judge. — Oh my gosh, what are they going to say to me? This — God bless Shannon. She's like, they could be a little cruel. She's being too kind in this documentary. — Janice Dickinson. — She looks kind of like child. — You got to get over. — Not the compilation of Janice's problematic comments to the girls. Remember what Tyra was saying in the beginning of this episode that she also got comments on her appearance and she said that hurt her deeply. So then they have a judge next to her making comments like this to the models and Tyra is silent. Doesn't say anything. And Janice wasn't on just one season. She was on multiple seasons of this show. — Janice was obviously extremely provocative — and she's a diva. — World's first supermodel — diva. You talk about a legitimate — No, we're not going to show a compilation of her saying child and then, oh, she's a diva. She's a legitimate bonafide supermodel. They use the word provocative. They're never going to say, "Oh, it was mean. It was Are you guys really going to just gloss over that? " Like with your You think you made a little fun compilation and it's like, "Oh, we're they're trying to downplay this so bad. " — Who'd had such a career? Hold on a second. They just played a compilation of her saying some pretty horrendous things and then it and then Mr. J's like, "Oh, she had such a long career. She's a big supermodel. " Exc How are you going to go from this compilation of saying she You're dead to me, the b- word, to now, oh yeah, she was a diva. She was Oh, let's talk about her career next. — I love Janice. Like, she was very outrageous as a character.

### Segment 6 (25:00 - 30:00) [25:00]

— Are we talking about the same person? He's like, "She was very outrageous as a character. " What do you mean as a character? She was a judge. She was herself as a judge on the show. She's a It's like she's a character from a story or something. She's Oh, it was she was on this show. She was playing It wasn't her. It was just a character she played. Mhm. I haven't heard them say she's mean one time. They're like, "She was outrageous. " Yeah. Oh my god. The way that they're No one's taking accountability. No one. No. Everyone's like, "Let's all do this together. " Wait, we're all in this together to dodge accountability. — This is the worst photograph I've ever seen. — You look deranged. — She had no filter. — They will say everything but the reality, which is ironic cuz the show, this documentary is called reality check. I think all the people in this documentary, minus the models, need a reality check. That's why I'm not believing anything that this guy says. He's like, she's Oh, she's great. So light-hearted. She's a sweetheart. You If only you knew her. They are downplaying Janice's behavior big time. I would be annoyed if I were a model that she made these rude comments to and then I hear people saying, "Oh, she's provocative. She's out. She has no filter. " You know how she is. — Too old to be starting model. — She's huge. She's not going to be a top model. She's a car toppling company. — You're putting models that you allegedly fought for to be on the show and you're telling them that they're too old to be a model. You'll never be a model. You're too fat. Literally, Janice says, "You're too fat. " But remember, Tyra wanted it diverse and she wanted to show all types of beauty and all this stuff. — You know, Janice offered that very harsh opinion that exists in the industry. — Okay? Remember, they're the ones picking these girls. So, if you're going to pick a girl that you So, you picked a girl that will never be a real model. You picked her over all the other models that auditioned the hundreds of girls to be on the show so that you can tell her that she'll never be a model. Isn't that counterproductive? That's what doesn't make sense to me. sense. — And I'm going to be your trainer. We're going to do a little test height and weight. — One of the models, Shannon, says that she had an eating disorder. Then it pans to a trainer with an American. It's so funny. He has an American flag on his on like a vest. He's like, "Hi, I'm going to be taking your height and weight today. " This random man, he's like, "I'm a trainer. " "Okay, how much do you weigh in front of everyone? " The girls do a height and weight test on this. I've never seen this before. At least gets on the scale and he's like, "Terrific. " 114. What if you have like an eating disorder? body dysmorphia? Any kind of like body image issues getting on a scale in front of everyone? I'm going to say the exact opposite than what these people in fashion have been telling women for years. — I'm going to tell them the opposite of what the industry has been telling them. Even though my judge that I handpicked for this show is going to tell them the thing that the industry is also perpetuating. Tyra doesn't make any sense. I'm telling this Tyra is saying one thing, but she there's literally clips of her quiet as people call her models fat and ugly. And what are we doing here? What are we doing? — Think that you guys are the problem with America. I think you are the problem of why women are leaning over the toilets at this very moment and vomiting after they've eaten. — It shows Tyra saying, "I think that you guys are the problem with America. " So, it does show Tyra snapping back at what Janice said about the weight comment, I believe, which actually I'm going to praise her for that because I think it was very important at the time that she says that. But then why pick Janice as a judge on the panel and why allowed her to say that? It's good that you're advocating for that, Tyra. But then also, you're doing something opposite on the show, which is focusing on their weight and having them, they're literally being made to weigh in publicly in front of all the girls. For cycle one, it shows Shannon and Adrien in the top two. And Adrien is announced the winner of cycle one for America's Next Top Model. And Shannon says that after she lost, Tyra sent her flowers. And the card read, "You can still do this. So bring your butt to New York cuz there are angels that want you badly, Tyra. " Oh, a agents. Agents, not angels. I don't know why I said that. Look at — that girl. She's beautiful. You know, — I love Ebony so much. — Okay, so they then talk about this giant billboard that they put up in LA of America's Next Top Model and how the girls found out about it. So, I think that's really cute. And then they talk about how Shannon got signed to IMG after the show. They had the billboard in LA of America's Next Top Model. Jazelle talks about making a little like promotional flyer and sending it to agents after the show so that she could start promoting herself. And then they had a viewing party for the first episode of America's Next Top Model at Mr. J's apartment. Tyra was there and her mom was there. — Networks want ratings. They want things to like

### Segment 7 (30:00 - 35:00) [30:00]

— There it is right there. That you should have just started this whole documentary with that. Networks want ratings. That's why we did all this. That's the most honest thing Tyra is going to say. Even the Janice part where they just brushed off her problematic comments, her rude comments to all these models over the years and it's like, oh, you know, haha, it's just that's Janice. No one said, oh, she shouldn't have said that, and oh, I feel bad that she's nothing. Nothing. — David said to me, you found the place where you need to be. — Is that place being honest with us in this documentary? Mr. J says they went online and checked the online chats after the show aired and Tyra was nervous cuz the networks want ratings and they wanted to see what everyone was saying. And then Iman called me and gave the phone to David Bowie and he's like this is where you need to be, Mr. J. I'm almost 40 minutes in. I haven't heard I feel bad. I shouldn't have said this. Nothing. — The fairy tale began — for some people a fairy tale. Fairy what kind of fairy tale. What kind of a dark fairy tale? It starts off nice. They're eating porridge and then they get locked up in a basement or something. He's like, "The fairy tale begins. " No. For who? For not these girls. — These ratings are crazy. — You guys, what did I tell? What have I been telling you guys? The ratings. This is about ratings. This is the second time. And I've never seen Tyra happier, by the way, to talk about anything. She she's been kind of stoic for like more chill and serious, but when she's talking about ratings, her face lights up. Jazelle tells us that she could feel the production trying to pit them against each other. — So and so said this about you, — saying, "Oh, you. This model mentioned this about you. " So the contestants themselves are telling us that they felt like they're being pushed into drama with other girls. producers trying to navigate us against each other. — I'm not surprised to hear that. That was one of my theories that the production pits the girls against each other. — She got a wide ass. — It's kind of wide. — Then it cuts to her saying, "Oh, she has a wide butt. " Basically, they're making comments on Jazelle's body. But remember, Tyro was trying to do the opposite. — 18 years old growing into my body. And she's like, "Jazelle, she's got a wide ass. " — We hear the judges commenting on Jazelle's body. And Jazelle's telling us that this affected her. She's 18 years old. — Has stayed with me forever. — Jazelle says that the comment they made about her body has stayed with her forever. And then Ebony comes on and she's telling us how she was excited for the first episode, but then when the makeovers came on, she was very disappointed. — Laughing my hair texture. People did not have the correct clippers. Everybody basically said they didn't know what to do. Then she references the makeovers where she says she had three stylists over her head and she said it was really frustrating. It just feels like they were making a mockery. Like they weren't taking it seriously. She says they weren't even using the correct clippers to cut her hair. So they're not even using the right equipment. They're laughing. They're joking around. This is We're supposed to be taking this seriously. Like this is supposed to be the look into the modeling industry, the fashion industry. — Should we write her name in? — Yeah. She says, "Should we write our name in it? " Referring to Ebony's hair. It was just a joke to them. That's what this is. They're laughing there. It says stylist giggling. — They end up giving me three bald spots. — Three bald spots. They were using the wrong clippers. She says like, "That's crazy. These are supposed to be the top stylist, but you can't you can only work with one type of hair texture. Doesn't sound like a good stylist to me. It is very upsetting to an Africanamean woman to go into a salon and person to do her hair incorrectly. It is very inappropriate. — She had a point. The way she did not lie in that speech right there. She's like, "Tyra wouldn't deal with this. " Yeah. Tyra is wearing expensive lace front wigs. So yeah, Tyra would probably not stand for that either. Giving someone giving her three bald spots. — The judges have been talking to me and they've been saying that you have been showing up ashy every day. — No. And I'm blown away. — No, no. Tyra did not give you a personal phone call to tell you that. She's complaining about this makeover and saying like it was inappropriately done. And she says Tyra called her after the fact. And I think Tyra is going to understand where I'm coming from. And then Tyra says that the judges were telling her that she shows up ashy every day. — When this is a word that's been used in history to make us feel less than. It's very important that Ebony talks about this. Actually, Tyra dealt with racism starting off in the industry, right? She was telling us that people were telling her they don't want black models, that she had to prove herself. It was she struggled to get into the industry, right? — Wait a minute. Am I being treated differently cuz I'm a black girl? What's happening here? — Ebony herself says, "Am I being treated differently cuz I'm black? " You should know how it feels, Tyra. You know how hard it is to be a black woman in the industry? It's like, you know, the

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struggles that you had to go through as a black woman. It's like why are we talking to each other like this? — Whatever narrative they're creating, they're going to do this. — What did she say? Whatever narrative they're creating, that's also what I believed. That's always what I believed. That every girl is going to get a narrative. — She's very aggressive and very angry. — On the show, it seems like they're perpetuating the stereotypes about black women that they're angry that they're One of them says that she's aggressive. Why are we saying that about Ebony? It's like, where is the self-esteem? — Where's her self-esteem? After they were just making comments about her body, all of them. Absolutely awful. And Ebony, too, for her to be criticized like that. Remember, they wanted the show to be diverse. But actually, I don't think they really wanted that. I think they just wanted people with good storylines that they can manipulate. That's what they wanted. — A type of anger that makes you push yourself too hard to the point where you lose. — A type of anger. Notice how they're always using the word anger and angry with Ebony. That's That is crazy. — Oh, I probably can't be a model cuz my skin is rough like yours. — No, you see how that critique from Tyra and that came from Tyra, right? Making the comment about her skin. Now, she had girls coming up to her after the show saying, "Oh, I can't be a model because my skin is rough like yours. " And who again? Who said that? Tyra. And remember, Tyra was like, "I want to be different. I want to do things differently. " — I believed now that I wasn't good enough. I'm not gonna make it. — It really wasn't a model show. That this was really a new way of making TV shows. — Exactly. — Tyra, this is not normal. — When Tyra was like, "Oh, people were telling me this is not normal. " I'm like, "Oh, the comments and all the fat shaming stuff. " No, she's like, "Oh, it's with the success of the show. — You may never be able to repeat the success with anything that you ever do ever again. " — That's what matters to Tyra. She's literally telling us what is important to her. She shows up after Ebony and Jazelle have just talked about something very serious that they had to go through to talk about what the ratings and the success of the show. everything Tyres talked about is what she's done, how she's succeeded, her history as a successful model, and then now telling her that, oh, the show is so successful. That's all she's talked about so far. Tyra has not commented on the comments that she's made to any of the models or how have felt, any of the controversies, nothing. Tyra hasn't really addressed that yet. But what she has told us are the ratings. — Got picked up for a second season. And our ratings are really skyrocket ratings on UPN. — Ratings. How many times is she going to talk about ratings? This entire first episode of this documentary, Ty, all Tyrus talked about is herself, the show success, and the ratings and being in Paris and starting out in Par. Okay, — we're a big hit now. Now I've got to care about season. — It's a big hit. We got the ratings. It's a successful show. Why? Why did you bring Tyra for this? Kenmak is having the time of his life on this documentary. Despite all the backlash, he's appearing very light-hearted here for some reason. — After the success of the first cycle, our budget grew tremendously. — Again, what is he talking about? All he's talking about is the success of the show and the r him and Tyra. So, the success of the show, the ratings tell me that you want to apologize. him and Tyra are there just to be like, "Yeah, our ratings were great. It was so much fun. It was a different time back then. " Yeah, you wouldn't understand. You weren't born. You're Gen Z making your Tik Toks about us and our problematic behavior. Okay, we're not going to talk about it on the documentary. That's not the point of this. But it's good that the models were able to share their side of the story, which I appreciate and love. I think they picked out really good cast members for this. Tyra starts off this runway episode by saying, "What? I'm throwing you straight on a runway. No training, no nothing. I want to see what you got. — She literally says no training, no runway, nothing. And then proceeds to critique and make fun of the girls for their bad runaway walks. — I've never seen a runway walk that bad in my life. — You know, they don't have experience. So why are we acting surprised? — She should learn how to walk. and — and I wonder where she's going to learn that from the runway coach that you guys hired for the show that we still haven't seen yet. — It became sport for Janice to bait Tyra could just — it was definitely getting to her and I was like — oh that that's how they frame it like oh it was just like a fun little game. It was a sport like they brush everything off. — I was like why is she doing that to her?

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And Tyra would talk to me. — What about the models? I knew it was getting to her. And — so he's more concerned about how Janice's behavior is getting to Tyra versus how her behavior is affecting these models. That's great. And it just showed a clip of Janice saying, "Oh, she should slim down to like 100. 150 pounds or whatever. " And Mr. J doesn't care about that. He's not concerned about that. He's concerned about Tyra and how this is affecting her. Where are the models? It's like the models don't exist to the judges in this documentary. Do you hear Do you even hear them bringing up the models or the behaviors or nothing? This is so strange. — And I considered myself like besties with Tyrone. — She looks like a porno star. — No, she does not. — Yes, she does. — Oh my god. I was just — Does he know that they put this clip of him saying that? — He is not innocent in this either. Look at the comments he makes towards the girls. — Yours is already surgically cinched. I snap one thread and it's down. — He's quick with it. — So, so now they dedicate a portion of this documentary to now Janice versus Mr. J and Tyra. I wasn't my best self during the judging. Not nice at all. You weren't your best self the whole show. Have you Did you hear what you said 10 seconds ago? You called a model an adult star. And Janice defended that model. You You're making me side with Janice here. Come on. — This is what we want. Good-looking, straight, and white. — Is that what they said? — I don't believe anything they say at this point. say. — Half Sri Lankan, half English. — Don't let that uh the Viacom president see this. — He's going to be like, "We can't have that. He's too uh he has a Sri Lankan. " No, I forgot to mention. Nigel said he started his career as a professional model and his mother was also a successful fashion model as well. Nigel said he was surrounded by the world's greatest photographers in fashion and after looking at the industry he thought well if I want to stay here there's only one side of this camera I need to be on and it's not this side. — I had no idea what I was in for. — Come on out. — None of us did. — Barker our photographer. — Ladies is he dressed up in a police uniform for this. Okay. So Nigel is getting the tall, sexy photographer treatment for this documentary, which is interesting because when I talk to the contestants from the show, they're telling me that sometimes the producers would ask them questions if they think Nigel's hot and if they think he's cute or they're attracted to him and the girls will be like, "What? " That's just what I heard. Allegedly. So, and now we're hearing that in the documentary, which is interesting. — I would be the straight man eye candy. And luckily, that was my role of a show. Okay. And the photographer, he's like, "I'm going to be the eye candy for the show. " Also, the photographer. Okay. Interesting. Mr. J says, "The networks are very blunt. They know what they want to see in what role. " What did we talk? What did I mention before? I talked about titles like the favorite, the villain, the this, you know, the per the girl who's lost. Same thing with the people on the show, like the judges. Each one has a role to play. And what does Nigel say after this? — Yeah, I didn't need to be the mean one or the funny one. — Nigel says I didn't have to be the mean one or the funny one. I just had to be the straight man eye candy. And luckily that was my role on the show. The reason why I'm zoning in on this is because the judges also have roles to play. The difference is the judges know about their role and what they're going to play, but the models don't. — The ugly duckling to the swan. That was my story. Even Shandandy says, "The ugly duckling to the swan, that was my story. " Every model has a role to play whether they know it or not. — A lot of these girls came from very difficult family backgrounds who were not supported by their mom or their dad. — And how do you know that, Ken Mach? Executive producer Kenmach says a lot of these girls came from very difficult family backgrounds. — Girls came from very difficult family backgrounds who were not — who were not supported by their mom and dad. He doesn't say some of the girls or a few of the girls. He says a lot of these girls. Why a lot? Why are you picking a lot of girls that come from difficult family backgrounds? Is are you trying? Are you purposely doing that? He said it. He said that — a lot of those types of stories from girls who came to the show. — Oh, really? And who picked those girls to be on the show? You guys. And he says who they were not getting validation at home. I don't know why he came on this documentary just why are you telling us your the game plan that you used — who are not getting validation at home but they were coming to the show to get validation — really being you know the black sheep of the family and not having anyone to talk to the show knew that and took advantage

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of these situations these they have dysfunctional family dynamics or they feel alone they don't have people who they feel supported guy and those were the perfect candidates for to be the models on this show. And you know what? Their family is not going to push back on what they're do we're doing to their child because you know what? They don't have family support. So guess what? It's them against us by themselves. They don't have a support system. family who's going to be like, "No, you can't do this to my daughter. We're not going to stand for that. " Does that make sense? Like they won't have someone telling them, "Hey, what they're doing is wrong to you. " Because they're not going to have someone who cares about them enough to do that. — We're going to get the psychic consultation. — A psychic consultation. — See, I think what's going on with Shandi? Shandi needs family. Do does anybody hug you? — Why are you doing this to her? — It's okay, Shandi. — What the I never saw this before. Why do they bring They brought in a psychic so that they can tell Shandi that she needs a family. That's so messed up. They're trying to get emotional responses from these girls. — You want to be able to tell their story of what they've gone through in their life. — Or do you want to just exploit that for your ratings for your show? It cuts to Tyra announcing to the girls that they're going to Milan and Chandi saying, "Oh, I've never been out of the country before. " Angelic vocalization. — I don't know how she came from Walgreens to this. That's where they all come from. Walgreens. — Walgreens and Dairy Queen. One or the other. It's — Come and choose your driver. — Okay. I just take the bus. — So, they present the girls when they're in Milan with their drivers for the goies, which are men on little motorcycles. Scooters. Can I I'm going to say scooters. I would have just taken public transportation. Also, notice that they're all younglooking men. Goodlooking, decent looking, and you get to choose your driver for these ghosties. Look at how this man's waiting. I would definitely not be picking him. I don't Why would I don't I wouldn't want to be holding on to someone that I just I don't even know in another country that I just got to for a go see. That's crazy. But here we are. It's — like come by, we'll have some wine and stuff. I was like, — "Oh my god. " — Yeah, that sounds fun. I don't trust this show with anything. So Shandandy, I believe, has a boyfriend, right? It showed her with him in the beginning of this. And now suddenly now they're inviting these men to the apartment that the girls are staying at in Italy. — I don't think I'd eaten anything at all or had any sleep. I remember getting in the hot tub just like remember him on top of me. I was blacked out. No one did anything to stop it and it all got filmed. All of it. So Shandandy talks about how the guys that gave them rides for the goies in Italy that someone suggested that those guys come over to the model apartment and hang out, have dinner. They were drinking wine and she says that they all got into the hot tub together and all she remembers is him being on top of her. She says I was blacked out and it was a blur. Like she doesn't remember and no one did anything to stop it. At the end of the day, production is responsible for these models. Do they did they do a background check on these guys? Do they know these guys background or history? Extremely irresponsible on the part of production. — A more difficult territory is Shandi. — Shandi. Okay. — You remember the story with Shandi? remember? — And Tyra says Shandi. Okay. They've You know what's crazy? They've done so many insane things to these models. They probably can't even keep track. Which girl was that? I don't really remember. The only people so far in this documentary that have been holding the show accountable are the models. It just feels like the friendship documentary, the judges are all like, "Oh my god, I miss him. He's great. He was the eye candy for the show. Janice Dickinson was provocative. " Yeah, she's kind of funny. Some Yeah, she said some things. She did. Yeah. Tyra was my best friend, actually. Did you know that? I really looked out for her and I cared about her. What was that about us calling a model fat? What? No. Tyra was my best friend. She came to watch the premiere of the show at my house with her mom. She brought her mom. Isn't that cute? Okay. Don't ask me difficult questions, please. Like Shandandy to put the models in situations with strange men in a foreign country providing alcohol. Who's buying this stuff? Who's providing the alcohol? Who's who is setting up these environments? Oh, I wish we could hear from someone who was setting up these environments. Oh, wait. We did. The executive producer, Kenmach, who spent his time in the first episode talking about the ratings of the show and how Janice Dickinson is a diva. That's all we heard

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from him. The models carry the weight of this show. Without the models, this show would be nothing. Absolutely nothing. Now they're the ones who have to try. They're trying to pick up the pieces to share their story after what they had to go through. And that really breaks my heart. I would show you my bingo card, but my cat is sitting on it. So, we will continue with that on episode two. Let me know what you guys think of episode one so far and who has taken the least amount of accountability.