# Rubin vs Webb Telescopes - What's the Difference Between Them?

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- **Канал:** Curious Droid
- **YouTube:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZZqtgUAxX0
- **Источник:** https://ekstraktznaniy.ru/video/42774

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Today's video is sponsored by Delete Me. First, there was Hubble, the telescope that literally brought us images from almost the beginning of the universe as we know it with unbelievable visions of the most distant objects we had ever seen at the time. Then came the James Web Space Telescope. This was like Hubble on steroids and has gone back even farther into the history of the universe and shown us things which we still don't quite understand and threatened to upend our theories on how stars and galaxies were first formed. Then in the last week, we had the Vera Rubin Observatory releasing its first images which cover a huge amount of the night sky in ways we've never really seen before. So why do we need so many different ways of looking at the same thing? basically the night sky and the stars and galaxies that exist out there in the universe. In this video, I thought we'd look at the differences between the James Webb telescope and the Vera Rubin telescope and why the two really do go hand in hand. Now, just in case you haven't been following developments in space for the last few years or more, the James Web Space Telescope was launched effectively to stand on the shoulders of a Hubble Space Telescope and see fainter objects that go back deeper in time than it's ever been possible before. by looking at small patches of the sky with probably the most sensitive piece of optical equipment anyone has yet built. The light it looks for has traveled so far for so long that it's been redshifted from the visible light spectrum into the infrared spectrum which we feel as heat. And to be able to detect it, the JWSD camera sensors needed to be as cold as possible and work at just 7° Kelvin above absolute zero. This means that it couldn't be in a low Earth orbit like the Hubble as the infrared heat from the Earth and the constant heating and cooling from going from full sun to full shade as it orbits the Earth would swamp out the infrared signals coming from the edge of the visible universe. So it's in a special orbit near the second sun earth lrangege point L2 which lies approximately 1 and a half million km or a million miles from Earth on the far side of the earth from the sun where the gravitational forces of the Earth, Sun and Moon and orbital motion of the JWST balance each other as it effectively hovers out there without being in an orbit. Here, the large multi-layer heat shield that protects it from the sun. And with cryogenic cooling equipment, the JWST can reach its 7 degree Kelvin target. Web's first deep field image was taken with a near infrared camera and showed thousands of galaxies, including the faintest objects ever observed at the time in the infrared spectrum in an area of sky that would be about the size of a grain of sand held at arms length. You could fit about 600 of these images into an area the size of your thumbnail held up at arms length. This was a composite image made up of images at different wavelengths and a total exposure time of 12 1/2 hours. And this is what the James Web specializes in. Looking at an incredibly small piece of sky, which to us here on Earth would look like it was completely empty. And yet we found it contains thousands of galaxies going back to just after the Big Bang in the tiny patches of apparent nothingness. But if we wanted to survey the entire sky using the JWST, taking similarsized images, but with much faster exposure times, you would need over 25 million such images. Even if you took one image every minute, it would take you over 47 years to image the entire sky once. Clearly something which is not a practical proposition. And this is where the Vera Rubin Observatory comes in. It's designed to take images of the entire southern night sky in just a few days. And it does it from here on Earth looking through our atmosphere from a location as an altitude of about 2,672 m in the Kwimbo region of northern Chile alongside other large optical telescopes. The Vera Rubin telescope with its 3. 2 2 gigapixel camera which takes hundreds of images every night creates a huge amount of data into the pabytes per year which is not dissimilar to the amount of tracking data is captured from you and I by the tech giants as we use the internet. This is merged with existing data about each one of us to servers with personalized ads with what they think we want to see, hear and read. But at the bottom of all this are data brokers, companies that buy and sell data to anyone that wants

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between each one. It's not long enough to do this type of correction. And because of the extremely short focal length, it would make it a very difficult technical challenge as well. The sensor is not a full color sensor either. It's monochromatic and uses six different filters which are placed between the secondary and tertiary mirrors and separate filtered images eventually build up the full color images which we see. The wavelength bands for the filters are U for ultraviolet, B for blue, V for visual, R for red, and I for infrared. Although the JWST can see some visible light, it's primarily designed to detect near infrared and mid- infrared, allowing it to see objects that are obscured by dust and gas clouds and the very earliest galaxies where the visible light has been redshifted into the infrared spectrum. But the size and quantity of the images produced by the Rubin's camera also brings a whole new set of other issues, namely data processing and storing. With about 30 terabytes of data being generated every day, there's simply too much information for humans to process it by hand. So, a whole system had to be created that would process the images automatically. If an object changed its brightness or position relative to an archived image, an alert could be created. so that it can then be manually inspected. This is done within 60 seconds of the observation taking place to ensure that important events are acted on as fast as possible. Because the images that the camera takes cover such a wide field of view, a lot of man-made objects will also be captured in each image, including aircraft, satellites, and now satellite constellations like Starlink. These have to be detected and removed automatically to avoid them being inadvertently labeled as nearear asteroids or meteorites. This process cuts out a 30 pixel area and path around each object. So there is a little bit of image loss, but that could be filled in from other images. Another thing it will capture are secret military operations taking place in space, not only by the US, but by other countries putting objects into orbit. These also have to be removed as the information is released to the public shortly after the processing. Anyone with access to the raw information could track potentially secret space hardware. So, a classified US government facility in California removes any known secret spacecraft for 3 days before allowing the unredacted versions to be released to the public. The way in which researchers and scientists have access to the two telescopes is also radically different. For the JWST, researchers have to put in a request sometimes years in advance, and then only the best and most worthy of a telescope's time are acted upon. With Vera Rubin, it will be gathering data for the main survey for 90% of its time. The other 10% will then be set aside for special projects. But most of the researchers will use this vast data archive to do their future research on using whatever tools or AI may become available in the future. So in the end, the main differences between the Vera Rubin Observatory and the JWST is that the Vera Rubin will build up a complete image of the southern sky and Milky Way and discover things happening on a day-to-day basis, as well as objects moving around our solar system, such as many of the undiscovered asteroids that could be a threat to us here on Earth. The JWST, on the other hand, will focus not only on teasing out information from the beginning of our universe with highly detailed images, but research into exoplanets, looking for the telltale signs of life in their atmospheres as they pass by their local stars and revealing what is hidden in the vast clouds of intergalactic dust that we can only see through in the infrared spectrum. Either way, we are on the cusp of a whole new era of discovery about space. From the beginning of time to what's going on in our cosmic backyard. It's certainly going to be an amazing journey. So, thanks for watching and I hope you enjoyed the video. And if you did, then please thumbs up, share, and subscribe. And a big thank you goes out to all our patrons for their ongoing support.
