# Arm comes to the Framework 13 ## Метаданные - **Канал:** Jeff Geerling - **YouTube:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIb87SJ4xwo - **Дата:** 15.04.2026 - **Длительность:** 13:23 - **Просмотры:** 395,016 - **Источник:** https://ekstraktznaniy.ru/video/49729 ## Описание This new mainboard brings Arm to the Framework 13. Things I referenced in this video: - Framework 13: https://frame.work/laptop13 - MetaComputing AI PC Mainboard: https://metacomputing.io/products/metacomputing-aipc?variant=50604798640434 - All my test data: https://github.com/geerlingguy/sbc-reviews/issues/103 - Radxa's guide for Frigate NVR on Cix P1: https://docs.radxa.com/en/orion/o6/app-development/artificial-intelligence/frigate-cix MetaComputing sent their Arm AI PC mainboard for testing, and because of that, I mark this video as "sponsored" in YouTube's settings. They did not pay for this video, nor have any say in its contents. 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And the big question I have which hopefully we'll answer by the end of this video is whether this chip and this board solve the big issue that I've had with these arm chips on other systems like the minisforum msr-1. We'll see. Let's ### Upgrading to Arm [0:54] tear this laptop down and take out the AMD main board that I have in it right now. And uh to start, we'll see how quickly I can do this. Take out these little guys. Okay. And then we use this one tool that comes with the laptop to unscrew these captive screws. Oop. Well, Okay. Don't do as I did. Don't just yank the keyboard off. Luckily, no harm no foul, but uh that's uh I might have to buy a new top board at some point if I do that again. ### First boot into Ubuntu Linux [2:11] All right. Well, 10 minutes for a complete main board replacement is not that bad. Uh and I'm going to see if this boots up. Now, the SSD that I put inside, that one I already pre-flashed with uh meta computing's image of I think it's Ubuntu 2504 or 25 I think it might be. I don't know. Um right now because of the way that this chip works, you can run other OS's on it, but it requires some extra firmware support. Anyway, I'm going to try to turn this on. I don't know if I have the battery charged up actually. It's been about uh 3 or 4 weeks since last time I turned this laptop on. Uh but the light's on. Let's see if we get it. There it is. So, Tianacore edk2 firmware version beta 2. So, if we boot this up, the uh OS distro that comes with this, it's Linux. It's Ubuntu 2504, which is about a year old now. And uh it's using Linux kernel 6. 6, which is the LTS release, but it's not using 6. 12 or 6. 13. I don't remember exactly what kernel ships with 2504 by default. But that's because there are still a few things with the 6p1 chip in here that don't quite work the box. But you can see that this booted up pretty quickly. Uh we're in already and uh you can all the controls on here work. There's volume. Uh there's I guess the uh screen mirroring and there's play pause. All the buttons for the framework stuff work fine. And using this generally is fine. There's no issues here. If I go to my website, I can browse and it's very fast. Uh I can go in here, go to YouTube video. Uh it's — picking the best laptop Apple ever made is a sub Let's uh pause that there. Uh everything on here works like a typical computer would. It has 12 cores, so it's not going to be a slouch doing almost anything that it needs to do. And uh just general computer use has been great. Uh no problems there. Uh you can use writer and uh spreadsheets and you do whatever you need to do. Uh and I haven't had any issues there. But uh after I get this up, we'll go through some of my benchmarks. I run a full suite of benchmarks on every computer I test and this one does it does really well in some places and it does a little surprising in other places. So, just ### Performance - CPU [4:39] looking at Geekbench scores, Geekbench is not the best benchmark in the world, but it works here and uh it just shows us that the chip is behaving pretty much within spec. It's between the minisforum msr-1 and the radxa rock 5 06, which both use the same chip, maybe a slightly different revision of the chip, but um you know, it it's performing as expected. That's the main thing for small workloads. Uh when I run HPL, which does a floating point 64 double precision task on it and it uses all the memory, I think there's two things that are going on. One is the memory bandwidth on this chip is a little bit less than on the other two systems. I don't know why uh because the performance of the memory seems okay otherwise, but for some reason the memory is a little bit slower on here, but it shouldn't account for that much. I don't know exactly what's happening here because uh I did check in the BIOS that all the settings are right for performance mode. So, something's funny there. I don't know what, uh but that should be higher. But I think that partly uh causes this the efficiency to be much worse on this chip for this particular test. Now, for Geekbench, the efficiency is right in line and for most tasks it'll be right in line with the other 6p1 chip systems. Um but I just wanted to call that out because that was a little bit of strange behavior and I think the chip is underperforming a little bit, probably a BIOS setting. Um but the thing that I did enjoy a lot about this system is it actually has relatively decent power draw versus the other two at idle. And that's something that I think meta computing is focusing on in their BIOS to make it uh run idle a little bit lower so you get more battery life. Uh it's still not amazing though. And uh we'll get to that in a little bit later in this video when we compare it to other systems like the AMD main board and Apple's MacBook Neo. ### Performance - GPU [6:28] Before we get to those comparisons though, I wanted to test the graphics performance on here for a couple reasons. First of all, I ran gravity mark, which tests the iGPU very hard and sees how much performance you can get out of it ideally. And this has a Mali G720 Immortalis GPU that's from arm directly and it has okay driver support. You can get Vulcan and OpenGL running and because of that, you can also get support for uh Steam games through FEX or through uh box86 and box64. So, I wanted to test that. Now, this gravity mark score is actually going to be similar to like an A14, so a couple generations old Apple uh mobile chip or Intel's iGPU like in the N150 and N100 ### FEX - Windows games on Arm Linux [7:13] PCs. Uh so, I got FEX running on here and I installed Steam. There were a couple little tricks to it, but it wasn't actually that hard. I used the guide from Ubuntu's wiki. I downloaded games on Steam and it was getting 500 plus megabits over Wi-Fi, so that was nice, but it was also using the whole CPU while it was doing that. That's just how it is with Steam downloads. Uh but the first game that I tried out was a pretty lightweight older game Horizon Chase Turbo and I use this game a lot for the first try because it's pretty light on resources and usually runs fairly well if you have enough iGPU support and it's not quite a slideshow here, but I wouldn't call this playable. Uh it worked fine and the controls were fine, the sound was great, but that's about all I can say for it here. This is all the lowest quality settings. And I think for some reason the iGPU is not passing through and uh working correctly in this environment. And that could be a FEX issue, that could be uh something with the drivers on here. I'm not 100% sure. Next up, I tried Portal 2 and again, it works, but it also stuttered quite a bit. It actually was not very playable. With Horizon Chase Turbo, I could at least finish a race, but in the rooms in Portal 2, it was a challenge to even enter the test chamber because there was a lot of skipping and pausing and uh that kind of thing. So, I quit out of there and then I tried testing Abduction, which is also a little bit of an older game, so you know, usually it runs pretty decent on newer systems even if they're through emulation, but uh it quit out after the splash screen and I'm not 100% sure why, but maybe it was the same thing as happened with Doom Eternal because it got pretty close to launching, but I guess with the 16 gigs of RAM on my board, it uh ran out of memory and uh that 16 gigs is shared between the GPU and the CPU. And so, the whole laptop locked up at this point and I had to shut it down. So, if you're buying something for gaming, definitely this is not the board for that. It's not even made for that. So, I just wanted to see how it run because I know people are going to ask about it in the comments. ### Windows on Arm on Framework [9:13] Obviously, the next question is if you can't run Windows games translated from x86 to arm through FEX, what about Windows on arm natively? I mean, it should work, right? Well, the first step was I upgraded the BIOS to the latest version that was provided by meta computing and then I went into settings and booted off this Windows USB install drive that I made with Rufus. And the first time I tried, it hit an NTFS driver bug and apparently that's because I had an older version of Rufus that I made the USB install disk with. So, I reflashed the Windows install using the latest version of Rufus and it got further, but then I ran into this screen with a phase zero exception. That basically means Windows ran into an issue trying to initialize hardware. I talked to meta computing about it and their first suggestion was to disable four CPU cores. So, I tried that. That's actually the same trick that I think Orion 06 from Radxa used to make their system ready image, but that setting wouldn't stick for me, and so I couldn't get it to boot that way either. So, they got back to me again and said, "You can try putting it into work mode instead of performance. " And I guess, you know, if you're going to use Windows, it is a lot of work to use Windows instead of Linux. But anyway, setting that, it actually did stick, and so I popped my Windows install USB back in, and what do you know, it actually started installing. But for some reason, midway through that install, it rebooted, and I couldn't get it to work again and recognize the NVMe drive. So, I don't know if it was an issue with the drive or with something in the BIOS Windows install, but you know what? I'm going to put a pin in that right now because this isn't like fully supported yet. It will be at some point to install Windows on here, but this really wasn't built to be a Windows machine anyway. We're going to run Linux ### Why AI PC? [10:51] on here. I guess another question I had is, why is this called an AI PC? What does that even mean? I think the main thing is that just means it has a built-in NPU or neural processing unit that might speed up things like running LLMs or machine vision. The NPU built into the P1 is rated for 30 TOPS int8, which is fine, but you have to tweak things to run on it. So, you can't just install an AI tool on here and go. Right now, Metacomputing doesn't have any specific documentation, but Radxa's wiki has guides for things like using the NPU for object detection in Frigate. That's ### The problem [11:22] all well and good, but here's the problem. Even though this has the best idle power draw I've seen on a system using 6's P1 chip, and even though it's a decent ARM board, the MacBook Neo exists now. On top of that, the cheapest AMD mainboard also exists. The Neo is way cheaper than both of those, but the AMD mainboard is about the same cost once you take into account memory pricing. But the Neo and the AMD are faster. And assuming you want Linux, the AMD board is compatible with more software, too. The biggest killer in terms of this being more than just a developer board, though, is how it's still behind in performance, efficiency, and especially idle power draw. Like for a desktop, 10 or 15 W isn't the end of the world, but for a laptop, that's just no good. The latest BIOS idles around 7 to 8 W, which is okay, but the MacBook Neo comes in at less than a watt idle. And even the AMD Ryzen 340 mainboard is down at 2. 7 W. That's all measured at the wall with the battery fully charged and the screen off. Turn on the display, and you have this thing at 10 W, the Neo at 3 W, and AMD at 5. This is better than the RISC-V mainboard I tested earlier last year, which burns through 25 W doing nothing, but that board is really targeted at developers only, not the general public. This ARM board could work for anyone if the price is right. Unfortunately, with memory, it's priced the same as the Ryzen 5 340 board, which is faster across the board and just about as efficient. And it's double the cost of a Neo, which is way faster for bursty stuff, but is actually around the same performance with heavier work since it doesn't have a fan. But that power draw really hurts things when it comes to using this thing as a laptop. And I think that, along with the fact the memory shortage drove the price up from the 550 launch price to like 800 bucks today, means that this board will have a limited audience. Some people might like it, and future BIOS updates could make this thing better, but right now, in the middle of 2026, if you want a good value ARM laptop, get a Neo. Until next time, I'm Jeff Geerling.