# Joe Rogan Experience #2498 - Brendan Schaub

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- **YouTube:** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WVv39tLlzg
- **Дата:** 13.05.2026
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## Описание

Brendan Schaub is the  host of  “Big Brown Breakdown” as well as the Tubi series “Gear Heads Gone Wild.”
⁠https://tubitv.com/series/300019796/gear-heads-gone-wild⁠
⁠https://www.youtube.com/@ThicccBoy

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## Содержание

### [0:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WVv39tLlzg) Segment 1 (00:00 - 05:00)

Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. — The Joe Rogan Experience. — TRAIN BY DAY. JOE ROGAN PODCAST BY NIGHT. All day. — Hey. What's up, brother? — My man. Good to see you. — What's going on? — This is a good time for you to come in, man. Right after this weekend. Holy [ __ ] Yeah, brother. — Bro, for I mean, everybody's talking about the Sean Strickland Hamza fight and the debate, but before we even talk about that, bro, how [ __ ] good is Joshua Van? — And he's only been fighting about 5 years. — That's what's scary. — Crazy good. — Five years. And he has some holes for sure that certain guys are going to uh you know, expose, but five, think how — he's not the best on the ground. — He's also 24. — He's 24. Yeah. crazy athlete, but his [ __ ] boxing, it might be the best in the UFC. — It's up there. Him or Ilia? — Yeah. Well, Ilia's pretty. — The thing about Ilia is Ilia's one punch night night. That's the difference. — It's tough at flyweight to be a knockout artist. — But then also Josh Figero. — True. — He was starching people. — He was. But with Josh too, again, he's 24. But in Tatsier Tyra, he also just was blocking punches with his face. — Well, — that's the other thing. Like his defense was so bad. — I think it was that Joshua Van's offense was so good. — You know what? I think it's a combo of both. — Yeah, both — cuz Tyra is primarily a grappler. I mean, he's obviously a mixed martial arts fighter and he did strike. I mean, that's why he didn't completely get blown out of the water. — He did strike pretty well. It's just the counters came so clean, so sharp. Like I rewatched some of it today and I was like, "Good lord, that's pretty. " — So good. — He looks so good. — And again, 20 — 24 and you know, it took all the stink off of the way he won the title. — Yeah, but the And not me. I'm sure not you, but there's a lot of questions that haven't been answered for sure because Pantoia is a [ __ ] straight up assassin. — Okay. How would he do against Pantosia? — Hey man, his stock went up after this fight. I'll tell you that. Look, it was always up, right? But Tyra was a real threat. Tyra got him on the ground. Wasn't able to submit him. Joshua Van pieced him up on the feet, man. — But again, at 24, so let's say they do the Pantosia rematch, whatever, Q4, and let's say Pantosia gets that win. All good. He's 24, — right? He's going to be your champ for a very long time. — And how long how old is Alandre Pantosia at this point? — Not young. In flyweight years, he's 67. — Yeah, flyweight's tough. — 36. That's tough. If he was a middleweight, you'd be like, that's the beginning of the slide, right? slide. For welterweight, you're like, oo. — Yeah. — But flyweight. — Oh, bro. — It's crazy. — Yeah. — Heavyweight is like he's in his prime. — Oh, we're cooking it. — Look at Francis. Francis is like 38 or something. — Yeah. Is he 38? — Yeah. — Francis is in his [ __ ] prime. Like nobody looks at Francis and goes eyes over the hill. — Oh, never. Not at all. — No. There's some old cats at heavyweight doing the damn thing. Especially now the heavyweight divisions. — How old Vulkov? — 59. — I honestly old day, — right? He was a Bellator champion. M1 champion. champion in the early days of Bellator. — Yeah. And remember he had in Bellator and when he first got the UFC he had that Moana tattoo on his back. He had the sting, right? — And he changed it into that Japanese mask. — Yeah. I like this. — That one looks dope. The new one looks dope. — So dope. I like to think I'm the one that kind of bullied him into doing that cuz I it's all I ever talked about for like six years when he fought — and he comes out with just this dope ass samurai tattoo. I'm like, "Yeah, there. " — Well, sometimes you realize like this ain't making it. I got to fix this. — Yeah. Especially that people like, "Bro, why do you have a [ __ ] stingray on your back? " — Bro, speaking of tattoos, how many tattoos does Shawn Brady have? That motherfucker's feet are tattooed, bro. — Like, his entire body's tattooed. — How good did he look? — Phenomenal. — This thing might, you know, — phenomenal. — I always get stressed out because everyone's asking for betting picks before the fights and I MMA's tough, dude. MMA's tough to [ __ ] pick. — Yeah. So, uh, with the Walking Buckley fight, the reason I told my brother, I'm like, "Literally, put your mortgage on Shawn Brady, cuz Walking Buckley did an interview like a week before was like, I'm not working on grappling. I'm not wrestling or grappling. I'm just going to keep this thing standing and knock this [ __ ] out. " I was like, "Oh, buddy. — No way. " He really said that. — Yeah, you can find it out there, J. — But that could have been just a [ __ ] tactic to try to get Shawn Brady cuz Shawn Brady probably saw that interview, too. — Yeah. And was like, "Cool, say less. " kind of just — I know but I mean — 10 seven rounds three of them — I know it was nuts but I mean you could say that — I get I hear you

### [5:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WVv39tLlzg&t=300s) Segment 2 (05:00 - 10:00)

— if you were just playing mental games — I get you — but maybe he actually did that — and it appeared so — it well hard to say cuz that's how good Shawn Brady is hard to say it's just tough when you lose like that — cuz you go back to the locker room you're like — [ __ ] we're not even in the same ballpark. No, like I'm What am I going to do? You look at your coaching staff, you go, "What are we going to do? I thought I was a top five guy. I just got beat 106 three rounds in a row. " — Okay, I was going to bring this up. So, I have some insight to this. So, there was some very strange betting behavior. Um it says it turns out to be meaningless. Bet online cited abnormal betting patterns as Buckley moved uh from plus 150 underdog to minus 220 favorite before the fight. So, this is what happened. Um there's money that moved very quickly before the fight and uh the UFC obviously because they've been through this [ __ ] with the guys fixing fights and the FBI investigated it. They got concerned and so um I believe what happened is they minimized the amount that you could bet online so you couldn't bet big money anymore. I don't know what the c Let's find out what the cap they put on it was. Um, but then you um they were going to go ahead with the fight, but they wanted to make sure that Shawn Brady wasn't injured. So, this was the fear. The fear was that some inside camp word got out, Shawn Brady's got an injury, and then all the money jumps up cuz that a lot of times that's what happened. — But they did it right cuz I before they would just cancel the fight like we don't know what's going on. We're cancel fight. No, just take the fight off the betting sites. — Well, they only did that one time. They did that one time with the Alexander Hernandez. I don't remember who he's fighting. Alexander Hernandez was fighting, but they did that with that fight. And I thought that was really crazy. — They asked Alexander like, "Are you okay? " He's like, "I'm fine. " Like, "I am planning on winning this fight. " But for some reason, he became an underdog. Like, — nothing came out from it either. No. — Like I wish they'd be a little more transparent like, "Hey, we looked into it. It's our bat. This, you know, but they just cancel the fight and so everyone now we just assume — something happened. Somebody's being dirty. — Yeah, but then Hernandez fought again and lost his next fight. — Um, [ __ ] who did he fight? — He fought someone on a fight night. It was a very good fight. Very close fight. The dude was very good. — But I'm glad they're not just pulling the fight. — Oh, Michael Johnson. — It was supposed to be Michael Johnson, but they didn't have that fight. And then who did he fight next instead? So, let's just go over this real quick before we figure out who he fought. amid suspicious betting movement. So what is suspicious betting movement like what if you and your boys all go [ __ ] it I'm going all in and you just decide to bet $100,000 on Buckley. — Will that change it that dramatically? I think we're talking — according to this I think it said that they had certain they have I think they have uh certain accounts that they knew — oh were shady. — Yeah. Not shady, but I mean they might be particular whales or whatever that are certain bers that always were betting, you know, $200,000 a fight or whatever and maybe one or two of them changed. — Two of the judges scored that fight — 3025. — Abnormal betting patterns from highly monitored accounts. — Interesting. Highly monitored accounts is interesting. — Bro, you better get a new account. — Better figure it out. — They're on to you, [ __ ] — They also said that they called Sean Brady to hear at the bottom. I was going to point out says someone called him to let him know and he's like, "I'm fine. " — I love it. He goes, "I'm going to beat the [ __ ] out of this guy. What are you talking about? " And they're like, "Yeah, you're good to go. " — I think that's what Alexander Hernandez said, too. — That's a bummer. — Yeah, it is a bummer because — we can also understand from the UFC standpoint being like because when it happened, especially then, they're like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa. " — Oh, yeah. No, they're in a bad spot right now with that because until that gets resolved, the look, the fight game has always been connected to [ __ ] shady people — always. — That's the Maron Brando movie on the waterfront. — I could have been a contender. Y, — you know, I mean, it's — that's who he lost to. — Oh, that's right. Hafa Garcia. Very good fight. Hafa did a phenomenal job. But I think too back to the betting I think that's also a reason why now more than ever fighters are getting so much hate because if you know you have a nineto-five and you make $1,000 a week and you put 500 on say Hamzot Yeah. and he loses that 500 that's why it's so toxic now because yeah your guy's losing but now it's costing you money. So I think that's why fighters getting so much more hate these days than they did even when I was fighting. Betting wasn't a big thing. — No I think you're absolutely right. I think it's Rafa Garcia. Is it Rafa or Hafa? Why am I saying it wrong? — Feel like it's Rafa. — I think so too. I think I went Brazilian on me — for a minute there. Yeah, that you made a real good point about the betting cuz that's why people are getting so upset because they are betting money on it. — It's a big problem with some people.

### [10:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WVv39tLlzg&t=600s) Segment 3 (10:00 - 15:00)

the ability to just bet on anything anytime you want and now it's like poly market and all these different things. You could bet on you know [ __ ] anything. — Anything. How about that [ __ ] soldier that got busted? — Good move. — He bet that Maduro was going to get kidnapped. — Dude, if you don't But my thing is, it's like the Pete Rose thing. At least Pete Rose is betting on his team to win. This dude was betting on his [ __ ] team to win. — Don't discipline him. If you don't think Trump's giving him a pardon, you're out your goddamn mind. — Well, — that guy's awesome. — That's a weird one. Um, but I mean, why is that bad? But the insider trading in Congress goes unchecked. — Oh my god. — Like that, — bro. — That's crazy. Like if you get mad at that people, what a hypocrite. — You're also dealing with best roll forces guy who It's not like they're compensated that great. And he was like, "Oh, I'm going to bet the house that we [ __ ] get this idiot, — right? " And by the way, he's betting on himself because it didn't have to happen. work. They could have all got killed. — It's like Pete Rose, too. It's like you keep him on the Hall of Fame. I think they're going to let him in now that he died, but — Oh, great. — Yeah. Cool. That helps. — Thank you. But it's also like he never bet against his team. It's pretty gangster. — I don't know if that's true. — I'm pretty sure. — I don't know. That [ __ ] — I read something online that he might have bet against his team at least at one on one game. I don't know if that's true though. — I'm rooting for Pete Rose. — But I just read something. I mean, they might have been a Pete Rose hater. — That's what I thought. That's what that's what I — mean. If he only bet for his team, I feel like that should be legal. — That's what I'm saying. That's like the special forces guy. What? You're trying to win harder? harder because you want money. Yeah, that would be good. — That special force guy like, "Dude, you're really into this. " He's like, "Fuck yeah, dude. I got a million bucks right on this. " — No confirmed evidence has ever been produced that Pete Rose bet against his own team. There you go. The Cincinnati Reds, though there's some speculation. — All official speculation. I must have read speculation. Um I mean what the [ __ ] you say person believes Pete Rose probably bet against the Reds at some point. John Dow said but even he has acknowledged that his investigation did not pro produce conclusive proof of such bets. So if I feel like you should be able to bet on yourself as a fighter. baseball player. Why not? — You're just betting to win. Now betting to lose — different story. But bet. So if you're just saying, — is that because you can't tell them how to bet? — Like if you're gonna let them bet, they have to be able to bet on whatever they want. Like, man, I don't know if I'm gonna win this fight, — man. I'm not — I'm going to try. try, but I think I might lose. So, let me just see if I can make a little extra money just in case I lose. Say, I try my hardest. I lost. But — still made some money. — Made some money, man. — Yeah, that's good. It just opens a can of worms you don't want to deal with. Nobody's been, — right? Because then what if you won? Like, I won. Yeah, but I lost money cuz I [ __ ] bet against myself like an idiot, right? You win. — No money this fight. — You have to be a [ __ ] psycho like to try to win knowing this going to cost you money like your whole camp paying your [ __ ] trainers, your manager, everything. — [ __ ] nightmare. What's like the Hamzot Strickland fight? You and I right when that fight got announced, we text each other and I went, "Good fight. Good fight. I know everyone's gonna, you know, Hamzot's a big favorite, but we both went, I don't know, man. I can see it. — I was nut riding for Strickland the whole time. I was like, that guy is the [ __ ] captain of the deep water. He knows how to go into deep water, man. And he knows how to survive. He can survive. And the thing about Hamzad is if he takes you down, he wants to hold you down and just beat on you and not expend a lot of energy like he did with Dreus. That's an issue. — You can't do that with Shawn. Shawn is not going to sit still. He's very hard to hold down. He's got super underrated grappling. Super underrated. You know, when you saw he almost threw Hamza like later in the fight, you know, and he did wind up on top multiple times. Like it's — he ain't uh easy for anybody. Far from it. — And he had a blown out shoulder. Boom. That's the other thing everyone's like, well, you know, Hamza was compromised cuz the weight cut. It's like, well, hold on. Sean had one arm. — Sean had one [ __ ] arm. And when he did throw that right hand in that second round, he wobbled. Hamzot. No one wants to talk about that. The most significant punch was in the second round. — Yeah. — He flash knocks out Hamza and Hamza's like, "Oh. " — And he probably [ __ ] jolted his shoulder with pain. Still defended. — Noticed he was doing this at the beginning of the fight. He before the fight started, he was doing this with his arm. So, he's warming up. He's doing this, but he kept doing this with his right arm. I'm like, "Ooh, that's what I do if my shoulders hurt to see how hurt it is. How's it feel? — Feel the range. " — Yeah. How's it feel? And he was only going to here. He kept doing but dead pan killer look on his face. — That [ __ ] still won. — Yeah. — Here's my thing about — still fought where a lot of guys would have pulled out.

### [15:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WVv39tLlzg&t=900s) Segment 4 (15:00 - 20:00)

A lot of guys would have said, "I can't use my arm. I'm pulling out. " — Especially for that magnitude of a fight. I think with Strickland, too, now that he won, people are like, "Oh, is he a Hall of Famer? " 1,000% — 100% he's a Hall of Famer. My thing with Strickland, too, it's like he's going to be a bigger star now more than ever. I think that fight is the one that put him even bigger. The thing about Strickland is he's the guy that's not supposed to be here. Like everyone when we talk about, you know, Cheschnian or Dystanians or wherever these war tone countries are from and they're like this is the only way they made it out. Dude, Strickland was grew up a poor white kid in America. Disenfranchised. Dude had a abusive father. The odds are so against Strickland. And this [ __ ] beat arguably the best striker in the middleweight division of all time when Izzy Adosana beat him at striking at [ __ ] striking in Australia. And then they give him arguably the best grappler of all time middleweight division and he beats him. So he we're all of you listening all you guys are closer to Sean Strickland than you are to LeBron James or Patrick Mahomes. He's just a tough white kid who trains his ass off. He's a bluecollar guy. He doesn't run a 40 and a 44. He doesn't have a 40-inch vertical. He he — got one bad leg. He from a motorcycle accident that almost ruined his whole career. — Dude, I get chills talking about, dude. He He's a He's the guy. He's that blue collar guy through hard [ __ ] work. Is a Hall of Famer, bonafide hall of famer, and beat two of the greatest middleweights of all time and was under and in all his fights. He's an underdog. Fluffy underdog. DDP underdog. Granted, he lost, but I thought he won that first fight. Uh Hamza under massive underdog. Izzy, massive underdog. — Second fight with DDP, he [ __ ] his shoulder up, too. Driving a dirt bike like a [ __ ] psychopath. — Crazy. — Crashed his dirt bike, [ __ ] his shoulder up, and they told him you had a fight. So, you had to take the fight with a [ __ ] up shoulder. And if one of the things you notice about when he's throwing right hands, in particular, in this fight, I noticed it was they were awkward sometimes. Sometimes they just looked weird, like he was trying not to use his shoulder or something. You compromised. Yes, 100%. And I saw some of that in the second Strickland second DDP fight, you know, where it looked like he was kind of throwing his punches weird, you know, which sometimes he does anyway because he goes around the guard. It's strategic. He's throwing [ __ ] that you you're not going to block correctly and then he's going to land you clean shots. But when you see him when there's nothing wrong with him, like he had this giant break — cuz he punched somebody in and some [ __ ] low-level promotion, right? cage money. So — yeah, — they gave a wild. — He's a wild boy. So they gave him like a 8 month suspension, something like that. Six month suspension, whatever it was. Um, so you see him against Hernandez where he's perfect. And he looks [ __ ] phenomenal. His striking looked phenomenal. Everything looked phenomenal. And I'm like, "Oh god, he looks like a better version of the guy who beat Izzy. He looked better. — Best we've ever seen. " And then he beats Hamza with one shoulder. This episode is brought to you by Ketone IQ. I don't care who you are. Performance is mental. I talk for a living, so I'm always looking for a way to stay sharp. Ketone IQ is one of the few things that actually feels like a gamecher. It came out of a $6 million US military research program on human performance. It's a small shot of ketones, fuel your body makes when fasting or training, and your brain loves it. I use it before long days for a smooth, steady focus. No spikes or crashes. And it's clean. 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It was like I was talking to him inside the octagon before the fight. I said, "What do you think? " And I said, "It was really close. It was really close because you really never know with judging. You know, we've both seen fights where we were sure that one guy won and the other guy gets it from the judge. So, you don't know. So, you know

### [20:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WVv39tLlzg&t=1200s) Segment 5 (20:00 - 25:00)

in my opinion, I would have to go over and watch it again because when I call fights, I'm just calling them. — I'm not really scoring them. — Super tough. — It's weird cuz like what you're trying to do is make some entertainment out of moments and put some weight to it and express maybe to people that don't know exactly what's going on. — You're also listening to your other — partners in the booth. — Right. Well, DC's great at that. DC is the best at explaining [ __ ] to people that don't know what's going on when it comes to like wrestling in particular because he's such a elite wrestler and there was a lot that was a lot of wrestling moments in that. So like that's what you're doing. So you're not really judging the fight. If you're judging, you'd be silent. Like Eddie Bravo used to judge fights unofficially for the UFC in the early days. And what Eddie would do was he would write he would have a piece of paper and draw a line down the middle for each guy. And then he would have categories. Strikes L, kicks landed, punches landed, takedown, submission attempts. He would mark all these different things. Like every time something would happen, he would mark it down. And then he would also go by who landed the most damage. And he was really good at it. like he was very accurate in terms of like I never disagreed with him. I was like that makes sense. — But if your intention is to score the fight, like you don't have to be entertaining and do the commentating. I can do that. It's like I do commentate for a game bread and there's a fight of the night — and Jimmy Smith is going who do you think won? I said, "Dude, this isn't the time to ask because I was entertained by the fight. We're doing our thing. " — Right. Right. — I go home and watch. I'll let you know exactly who won. It's such a close fight. I don't know, dude. — Especially wars. especially a crazy war. It's so hard to figure out who won some wars like let's you know think of like what if Tyra and um Joshua Van had made it to the end. — That's a tough one. I mean Joshua Van definitely did more damage 100%. — Which is number one thing they are supposed to judge it on. — So I would judge that in favor like because we had a conversation about the Gomez fight. Uh who was Gomez fighting? Um, uh, Pat Sabatini. So Pat Sabatini was fighting Gomez and all Pat Sabatini did was clinch him and try to take him down. Took him down a couple times, but when they were standing up, Gomez, Pat landed a few strikes definitely. It wasn't like he was completely outclassed on the feet, but Gomez landed more. So I'm like, okay, I know Pat spent the majority of the fight in control, the majority of fight clinching, working towards the takedown, but many fights, — but it was unsuccessful for the most part. Gomez bounced back up to his feet every time. Never took any damage on the ground. Never got close to being submitted. And then when they stood up, Gomez was the one who was going after him, landing strikes. I don't know if it was enough to win though because it's like there wasn't a lot of damage. It wasn't like he hit Pat and Pat got rocked and Pat went down and there was none of that. But Gomez was doing better in the standup, which when it comes to damage, that was the only damage of the fight. — But the other thing you got to take in consideration, it's like I love DC. He's one of my favorites, but DC has an extensive wrestling background. So, he's usually going to, not that he means to, but because he has such an extensive wrestling background. Uh, if you listen to Kamar Usman, Henry Cejudo, most of them will score that fight for Hamzot because of the wrestling involved. But if you talk to someone else who doesn't have a wrestling background or it's more of a striking background, most of them score it for Strickland. So, you always got to I take it with a little bit of grain of salt when those guys heavy wrestlers if there's wrestling but they weren't successful like takedowns were successful they're like that's a takedown like but he didn't do [ __ ] with it though. — There's also the Strickland factor. There's a lot of people that he rubs the wrong way and they don't want him to win because of the wild [ __ ] that he says off stage. — Listen, sometimes he goes too far. He said he went too far. He apologized for going too far but god damn did he sell some tickets? I like what you said though. You said, "Don't apologize. You're selling a fight. " — Yeah. — That's my thing, too. It's like, whoa, no, don't apologize. Don't apologize for any of that. Because — on Monday, I was so excited to get in studio. I was so excited. I felt like for the first time in a long time, the UFC's back. — I felt back, man. It's like, — you really think the UFC's gone away? — No, no. I'm not saying that. Don't get to it. I'm saying as far as like uh Connor Khabib like bad blood couldn't wait. Like I dude I was count I was tech day before I'm dude I can't [ __ ] wait. I it was like I was so hyped for this [ __ ] fight dude. It just felt like you know those Connor Day Kabib days those are over. But this one the magnitude of it and I usually can tell when a fight's going to be really big cuz I'm always at baseball fields and football fields and dads will come like dude you think Strickland has a chance? I'm like, "You watch Fighting? " I'm like, "Oh shit. " I was like, "This can be huge, dude. This can be [ __ ] big, dude. " — It was huge. And it was huge because of the way Sean sold it. 100%. Not just that Shawn has a ton of fans, for sure

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you know, but it was the way he sold it, the chaos. People love it. They love that. And especially casuals, they love the chaos. — I love it, too. — It's fun. He makes things fun. — And then people get so mad. you know, some of the stuff he says, but it's like there's a lane for that. Hate to tell you, And I I think Strickland, you you've been around Strickland. He's a good person. He has some crazy thoughts and stuff like that, which is fine. But remember, too, people go, UFC doesn't have stars. And then you get a kid like Strickland who's building his name. It's going to be the most watched fight, one of the third most watched Wayanes of all time. So, he's trying to be a star. So, you guys are complaining there's no stars. And then when he's doing the damn thing, you guys are hating on him, you know? So it's like pick your poison. — Well, they're hating by the way he's doing it, right? That he's making things super personal and but this is what Connor did. I mean, that's what Connor did with Kabib. Connor crossed the line many times with Kabib. — Oh, buddy. The line's here. Conor was all the way over here. — And there was no apologizing after that. I mean, that was the brawl afterwards where Kabib, you know, jumped in the crowd and [ __ ] up Dylan — Dan. That was my favorite. That's my favorite picture of all time. I need it frame my [ __ ] stew. When Kabib's literally flying off the [ __ ] cage about to [ __ ] — But remember before that fight in the fight, Kabib was all professional. He was all good. As soon as that [ __ ] ended, he's like, "Now it's time to get to work. " Yeah, dude. That is a crazy [ __ ] world champion just got done stopping Conor McGregor and he's leaping into the [ __ ] crowd just like his nickname — and super the eagle. — Yeah, the eagle. His talons are [ __ ] out. — I mean, you couldn't come up with a better nickname for that dude. You know how Dan Henderson has that flying punch that he landed on Bising when Bising was down? That's like his logo. That should be Kabib's logo — 100%. with like wings on it like a flying eagle. — He was a [ __ ] animal, — dude. That was amazing. — I love that guy. — I love him. — Oh, we, you know, we appreciated him while he was here, but maybe not enough. — But, but with Hamzlat, too, I also think couple of factors that went against him uh on Saturday night. He's been in big fights, but he hasn't been in this big of a fight defending the middleweight title. You have this — wild boy talking so much [ __ ] So, I just I don't think he's dealt with that kind of pressure at that level. And then also, Hamzot's always kind of had a cardio issue because remember when I went to his camp, I called you. I'm like, "Bro, I've never seen someone so [ __ ] I'm talking vicious, [ __ ] everybody up, destroying them. " I was like, "Oh my god. " So, there there's an issue with him and I don't know what it is where that's not translating inside the octagon. Well, I can tell you right now, first of all, first part of the issue is the weight cut. — He cut 100%, dude. He cut 22 kilos. Listen to me. They He cut 40 something pounds. They were making it so that he was going to fight Yuri Proas — at 205, — right? So, he starts bulking up and he's eating like a [ __ ] animal and he's deadlifting and doing all kinds of crazy. He — said he was 230. I think — he was above that. Yeah. He was somewhere north of 230. And so then he's 230, whatever. got to drop down to 85, which is bananas. That's so hard to do. He never got fat. So what happens? Well, your muscle gets eaten away. Yeah. — Your body deteriorates. You can't recover. And he had a bad breakdown in the middle of the uh weight cut. — I heard it was horrible. You hear his brother today was like we thought his body was going to shut down. — Yeah. So they took an hour off weight cutting and then they went back and he only had like 1. 2 kilos to lose at that point, which is what is that? Was that like five pounds? No, I mean two pounds. Two and a half pounds. That's — right. Two and a half. — What is it? It's 2. 2. Okay. So, — he was 230. — That's a lot though. Dying. You got to lose 2 lbs of water. — Oh, it's a nightmare. — Two 16oz bottles of water. — But when he was, let's say, 230 or maybe 235. How many weeks out was that? Do we know? — I don't know. Because when Strickland beat Fluffy, they were like, "Hey, forget this Yuri fight. You're fighting at 85. It's a few months. — It's a few months, but when you have muscle and not fat, it is a problem. It's a real problem. It's not the same problem. So, if you get big like Strickland gets in between fights, like Strickland, there's a lot of videos of him training where he's got almost like a belly. He's heavy. He makes fun of himself. He's fat. — That's a different fat. That's different to lose. You can lose that. That's not a problem to lose. When you're bulked up, your body has decided that now you're 230 pounds and you're still working out all the time. So, your body's using those muscles if you want those muscles to shrink, they literally have to eat themselves. — Yeah. — So, you have to [ __ ] starve yourself

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— or you do a radical dehydration which brings you to the brink of death. — And it seems like that's what he did. — Probably a factor. I But my favorite — giant factor, dude. — It's a factor for sure. There there's also a factor, but it's not like in the DDP fight and these other fights, not like he's going in there tenacious, finishing guys. — Well, the DDP fight was uh just him in control. It was just him grappling him in control. No intent to finish. That's my issue with him. — True. He just wanted to secure the win and he's here. — Well, it could be. And that also plays a factor when you're dealing with a guy like Shawn who's so durable and has such great cardio and can take the fight into deep waters and always does. — Yeah. — He always he's always going after you in the final round. Like the final round with Izzy when he's got his hands down, he's screaming at Izzy. Come on. — He looks better. He gets better as that fight goes on. — Yeah. And Izzy had noticeably faded by that final round. Part of that because of the beating that he took in the first. Correct. Right. I mean, he got — dropped too. — Super close to stopped. probably concussed in the first, you know? I mean, that [ __ ] straight punch that he landed where he spun Izzy's head around and then hit him with how many [ __ ] left hands in a row, — 15, 20 row. I mean, let's count them. Let's watch that and count them cuz it's crazy. He just bang bang bang. If you think you're going to go and just fight normal after that, you're concussed. — You're compromised. — Probably you have a concussion. — Yes. Just by the way he went down. His head spun around. It was a right hand, right? Wasn't a right hand. It — was a right hand. Yeah. And it's — picture perfect right hand. — Picture perfect straight right. I mean, it was picture perfect. And you don't get a cleaner, better right hand and then blasts him with all those punches in the clinch. You're gone after that. You're a shell of yourself. — You're gone. I think my thing with Hamzad too is after again you could chock it up to the weight cut that second round when he doesn't land that taked down and falls to his back. I'm like, "Oh, he's cooked. " — Dude, I think we're 6 minutes into the [ __ ] fight and you're body was shutting down and he realized that he went real hard in the first round but doesn't have the gas tank and said, "Let me coast. I can survive on the bottom here, but I need to catch my breath if I'm going to try to finish this guy. " It might have been a strategy — and he got better that third, fourth, fifth round, — right? Because the strategy might have been, listen, if I'm on my back, no big like he tries for a takedown, can't get it. He realized like, oh Jesus, I'm not going to be able to fight standing up like this for 5 minutes after that first round because his body almost shut down 24 hours ago. — It is the dumbest [ __ ] thing we do in the sport where we allow these people to pretend that they weigh a certain way. — You you pretend you Oh, it's a 185 pound fight. The [ __ ] it is. Yeah, both either one of those guys 100%. — Strickland is actually a bigger guy than him. — Strickland's a big boy. — Strickland that night in the cage is a bigger dude. — Well, he definitely looked healthier, right? And I think part of that you could attribute to the fact that Hamzad is killing himself. — Well, what Hamzad say to Dana as soon as you jump out of the cage goes, I'm done fighting here. I'm going to 205. — But apparently now all he's talking about is a rematch. — Back on. It's back on. So my you know so what he's got to do — love to hear — is he has got to limit his calorie intake and he's got to literally burn the muscle off. He can't just keep dehydrating himself like that. So you would have to talk to someone who's an expert at that. But my friend Cam Haynes when he runs these ultramarathons what he does is he gets himself down to like 160 lbs. And the way he does it is he just limits his [ __ ] calories and keeps working out the exact same way. And he looks terrible when he does it. Like he looks so tired all the time. But it's just sheer willpower gets him down to that weight. But that is slow running for days. Correct. — That's a different thing. — We can't do that. — Right. What he's doing is exploding and moving quickly. And I my personal opinion is you have to be biologically healthy to do that. You h you have to be a healthy person. You can't just be big, right? And you're not healthy if you almost died a day ago. Correct. — Because that's really what's going on. And we think these Oh, these guys can recover. But how much do they recover? Well, they [ __ ] for sure don't recover 100%. — Not a hundo. — Not 100%. — That's why I'm excited for him at 205. Like a lot of people like, "Oh, I don't like them. " Like if it's a if the weight is an issue at 205, if he's 100% hamzai, I know he might be a little undersized, but 100% hamzai could be a lot better than a 70%. — That's great. Strictly ain't going to do it. He's going to You didn't [ __ ] make the weight the first time. He's going to talk mad [ __ ] — It'll be fun. He's a [ __ ] coward. I beat him with one arm. It's going to get crazy. You got to fight him at middleweight, but he's got to go to some expert in losing weight. — Oh, no. I'm not saying Strickland Hamz at 205. That No, no. Strickland No

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Strickland's going to stay at [ __ ] 85 and dominate. No, Hamzot he's going to do that rematch and then that's it. He's a 205. — Well, I think he's or to your point, he has to maintain a weight that's realistic when still perform, but he has to figure that out. — He's got to stop lifting weights, right? So, whatever he was doing that got him up to 230 lbs or whatever, whatever he was, we're guessing, right? That's what I had heard that he was north of 230. — Whatever he was doing, he's got to not do that. And he's got to do mad cardio. Just cardio, like working out, like wrestling, hitting a bag, hitting pads, and cardio. — I'm a big uh proponent of do your sport. Get your cardio from your sport. Like I see it across the board. Like I get a little hesitant when I saw all these videos of Hamzot, you know, hitting the tire with the hammer and doing all these runs. I'm like, "Yeah, but I' I'd rather you get your cardio from actually wrestling against top level guys and [ __ ] get after it, dude. Cuz what's Strickland do? — Do you see Strickland doing all this heart rate monitor? " No. What's Why is his cardio so good? Cuz he [ __ ] spars like a madman all the time. So, the Strickland you see in that training camp is the exact same [ __ ] you see in the octagon. There's no issues. Meanwhile, you got these guys, you know, run their hill sprints and do all I'd rather you get your cardio in uh in your actual sport. I see it at the lower level, too. Uh with kids, I coach football, baseball. These dads like, I don't get it, man. I'm doing the foot ladder drill with my son five days a week. Can't catch football. I'm like, cuz there we're not trying to see who has the best foot ladder [ __ ] who can do it the fastest. We're catching footballs, dude. Do you think — footballs if you want to get better at football? — 100%. But do you think that some of that stuff has a purpose? — Yes. But not close to the fight. — Interesting. — You because usually what we would do is out like uh let's say you do have 8week camp. Before the camp starts, we're doing a lot of that stuff — and then once we get a camp, the focus was the cardio was getting it in your training. — Mhm. Um you know who agrees with you? Al Jermaine Sterling. Al Jermaine talked about this. — He's pretty good. — Pretty [ __ ] good. How good did he look against all — dude? Best back control in the game. — So I and I don't why is he so underrated? I don't get it. Why he doesn't get his — pure? — It's [ __ ] crazy. — It's the way the v the victory where he had an injury from an illegal shot and people hated on him from then on out. — Think how good he did against evil. — I know. He's amazing. — That was a [ __ ] split decision. Some people thought he won. — Yeah. He could have easily won that. — That [ __ ] is so good. — Yeah. Algam means the man. Yes. Um, but he said that Morab does the same thing. Now, who the [ __ ] has better cardio than Morab? I would say nobody. Nobody alive — ever in any sport I've ever seen. Maybe that guy that broke the [ __ ] whatever is 4-minute mile or something. But as far as what? — Yeah, but he ain't getting taken down. He's not getting punched in the face. — People should just go to Rob's camp like what are you doing? He's like, I'm wrestling. I'm [ __ ] wrestling. — He does run. He does run and he does lift some weights every now and then, but he doesn't do any of that crazy garage stuff. And one of the guys that spoke out against the garage stuff was Cub Swanson. I shouldn't say spoke out against it, but what he did say was that when he did that, cuz he did some of that training lab stuff, he said he was too broken down. overtrained and he said he was just too tired when he was going into like fight camp. Like we it's doing all the other stuff, too. You're still boxing. You're still kickboxing. you're still wrestling. And he said he did badly in those fights, which is interesting because, you know, the Marvin Marinovich approach was very different with BJ Penn. And that was the best BJ Penn ever. The best BJ Pen ever, but they literally did no fight training. What they did is all plyometrics and it's different from the stuff the training lab stuff's doing because the training lab stuff, he's doing bicycle work and all this different because that's what Sam Calvita came from. Correct. came from a cycling background. What Marv was having was all plyometric stuff and just build this [ __ ] insane machine. He's like, BJ, you already know how to fight. — Fact. You're not going to get better at fighting in 8 weeks, right? Fact. But what we can do is give you an unstoppable gas tank. And one of the things that always [ __ ] BJ up earlier in his career is that he wasn't when he was training himself or when he had, you know, wasn't — him and his brother. — Yeah. It wasn't the most disciplined. He was phenomenally talented and — freak — freak. And one of the things won the world the mundial at three years in to jiu-jitsu as a black like nobody does that. — That's why he's almost a bad example. You know what I'm saying? It's like Yeah. — Right. But what he the problem with really talented people and I'm sure you'd probably agree with me, they tend to not work as hard. — Yeah. — Right. Like Sean, although he's a world champion, he's not a guy where you see like, oh my god, he is so talented. Like what he does is like no one can move that way. No one can do what he does.

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Like you know, there's certain guys that are like that. — Sean stuff is hard work. — Hard work. So the guys that are super talented, it comes a little easier for them. And sometimes they have a harder time with the hard work because they're not used to getting beat up. pressed. So when they have to do this drill where you're rotating in new sparring partners over and you're exhausted and you when you're doing that hell, — they don't like that. No. — So some guys avoid that [ __ ] They just want to be tuning guys up. — Spot on. — Yeah. And so those guys when they're fighting a George St. Pierre or someone of a commensurate skill level, they might fade because that guy — got there in a through a different path. I mean, George, although he's a phenomenal athlete, one of the best wrestlers in MMA ever, and didn't even come from a wrestling background. I mean, George is one of the all-time greats, there's not like one thing that George would do that would make you think like that guy is a freak athlete. There's never been anybody like him like that. — No, far from it. To your point, far from it. cuz I trained with George forever and when we did they would have us do some stuff like I did in the NFL like sprints and vertical and the agility drills like nothing crazy. — No, — but BJ was crazy. — BJ could do stuff where you're like how the [ __ ] can you do that? BJ could jump out of a pool and land easy, you know? Um BJ can he has insane flexibility. Like the way he moves his legs, his balance is nuts. There's a video of someone trying to take him down and they have a single and they are driving across the cage and he's on one leg hopping with — zero fear of being taken down. Like — but to your point like BJ's that talented, John's another one. — Yep. — Where it's like — Right. Exact. Exact perfect. — So [ __ ] talented. And then the difference being like John always figured out a way to win and Jon if he had a bad camp for one fight, he would come back in the next fight and really [ __ ] put it to somebody, right? Like the Gustoson fight. — First fights with Gustoson, he doesn't train at all. — I talked to Craig Jackson. He's like he barely showed up — at all. — Barely showed up in the gym — and then has a five round war and pulls it out in the final two rounds. It's crazy. Gets taken down for the first time. We see him get taken down by Gustoson. Like, oh my god, Gustiffson might be the man. — And John pulls it out. So, the second fight comes around and John trains hard. — [ __ ] — And John [ __ ] him up. I mean, [ __ ] him up in a way like this is what would have happened if I tried. — Yeah. — If I prepared the way you prepared, this is what you get. You get a [ __ ] beating, — you know? And this is the dance of like who's the greatest of all time. And that's why the argument in most people's eyes is that Jon is the greatest of all time cuz Jon was all those things. Super talented. And when push came to shove and he had to get back in into work and get he would do it and he would pull it off against DC. off. — The Stipe fight was I think that was not Stipe. That was — no that that's when you like when you talk about his resume like all right you know — Stipe is the Stipe that you know ran through the heavyweight division the Stipe that knocked out Alistar overim that beat Fabricio Verdun for the title beat Francis when Francis was — just crushing everybody and I think that took a lot out of his chin that Francis fight I really did — that changed him forever I think — because DC knocks him out right after that and you know wasn't the biggest punch in the world. No, — it was a big punch, but I mean he had taken bombs from Francis. — Yeah. Back to John being the greatest of all time. It's like when you look at his resume, it's just like [ __ ] phenomenal. Youngest ever UFC champion. — Crazy. But as far as like uh — other than Josh Barnett, did Josh Barnett win it earlier? — No, I think John's the youngest. — John's the youngest. Josh Barnett was the youngest he — Joshua Van second now, — right? So Josh Barnett won the heavyweight title at what, 24? — Yep. And those boys were well it — didn't they strip him for steroids when everyone was doing steroids. That is — it's like when WWE guys get busted you're like oh come on — like [ __ ] you ain't testing everybody. You just don't like Josh. — It's a way to get him out. I love Josh. But back to John it's like you look at his resume. Greatest to ever do it. Beat the very best in murderers row. — Now you know it's not even comparable to today's light heavyweight and heavyweight. But then — you don't think so? — No. — Well, listen. When Alex at heavyweight, when Alex was the light heavyweight champion, it's certainly comparable. Alex as the light heavyweight champ, the Alex that beat Maggamed off, the Alex that knocked out Yuri Prohaskca, the Alex that starches everybody that [ __ ] up Jamal Hill. Like that Alex Pereira and Jon Jones in his prime would have

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been insane. That — Oh man. — Tough to beat the wrestling of Jon. Like John's wrestling was on a totally different level. — His IQ would be tough for — What could he do to Cheryl Gone? — Crazy. — I mean, he avoided the shots. — He read him like a book. — Bullied him. Got a hold of his neck and like I'll take that. — But dude, if you if you go back and look at John my fighting years too, you look at that light heavyweight division one through [ __ ] 15. Good luck. — That's true. — Especially heavyweight. — True. — Good [ __ ] luck. — But at light heavyweight. Okay. So, — not a lot of those guys are ranked in top 10. How do you think Yuri How Well, let's think of Alex. How do you think Alex would have done against Gustiffson? — Very tough fight for him. — You think so? Gustoson in his prime. — Yeah. — Yeah. — And do you think that based on the Tara fight? Cuz he pieced up Glover. Remember that fight? — Yeah. — Bro, that was a video game combination. Knocked out. — Alex is one of those guys similar to DC that when Jon just reigned as champ. It's like if Alex was just born at a different time, maybe five years before, five years after, he's our Jon Jones. He was so [ __ ] talented. — Huge. 667. Great wrestling. Great world class boxing. Good at everything, dude. Great. — Hard in the division with the goat. — You're [ __ ] You got [ __ ] Your mom and dad have did decide to have sex John and his parents did. You're [ __ ] — Look at what happened with Ilia Tapora. Think about the guys that he's fighting. Think about Max Holloway. Think about Charles Olivera. Think about Alexander Vulcanowski. And he is blast all of them into orbit. All three of them. First guy ever to stop Max. It's like you if you're in that guy's division, what are you going to do? Especially at 45. I don't know what it's going to be like at 55. Obviously, the Olivera fight was a one punch knockout, but — that was such a bad knockout. — Crazy knockout. But when you see him and Justin next to each other, you're like, whoa, Justin is quite a bit bigger. just a big cat. — He's quite a bit bigger. — That's a tough fight. — It's a different fight than Olivivera. It's different. But [ __ ] then you see what Olivivera was able to do to Max. You're like, "Good lord. " Like Olivivera is a [ __ ] beast. — Doing phenomenal. — And he couldn't do none of that to Ilia. — Yeah. The only thing with all that is like the 55 division, everyone's no one's in the prime. Like Charles is in his prime when Ilia beat him. Justin's definitely not in his prime. Max is in his prime. They're all good. They're [ __ ] good, but not prime prime. And the issue is Ilia is — just getting to his prime. — Surging — and already one of the greatest of all time. — It's a [ __ ] problem. — Yeah. He's so smart and so disciplined and so like completely focused and dialed in. Great ated everything. — Great ated everything. And the crazy thing is didn't even start as a striker. Started as a grappler. Now, his toughest matchup is Armen Surukin. That's the [ __ ] fight. — 100%. — Oh, that but that's what I was going to say with Hamzot, he's not active. I know I'm jumping around a little bit, but with Hamzot, he I think one of his issues with whatever's going on inside that OG gun weight cut 100%. Clearly, there seems to be a mental block when it comes to finishing fights because he's worried about gassing out RAF. Do take a game page out of [ __ ] Surukin's book. just wrestle all the Sukqin. I think he's wrestled like eight times his [ __ ] year just [ __ ] dudes up, making all the money. He makes six figures every time he [ __ ] somebody up. But he's active. He's staying active, staying in shape, competing. And the UFC is going, "Yeah, go ahead and do it. " So for Hamzat, dude, cuz he fights once a [ __ ] year, which is not good, dude. — So it's like, stay active over there. Stay active like Armasukin's doing. Keep your weight down. — Yeah. I don't know if he's interested in doing that. He signed with him. — Yeah. But what was the fight that they signed that he was gonna he was going to wrestle somebody? Who was it? Do you remember? — Uh I think they want to toss him like an Olympian, which I which is it that's where it gets dicey. — Yeah. Here's my fear. There was a recent event. There was a very weird event. I don't know who did it, but it was uh kicks to the leg, punches to the body, and jiu-jitsu. Have you seen that? — No. Get the [ __ ] out of my face. — It was weird. So Glac was fighting. Uh I apologize. I don't remember who he was fighting. and he takes this guy down and the guy catches, you know, he's trying to avoid the takedown. He catches his knee in a weird way and it blows out. — So, that could happen to [ __ ] anybody. Wrestling is a little safer though. — I don't know about that cuz this was in the wrestling exchange that he took him down. — Yeah, but those guys aren't exactly like highlevel wrestlers. True. — You know, like RAF has it's top tier [ __ ] Oh, yeah. No doubt. It's so good. — No doubt. So good. — Wrestlers blow their knees out all the time. — True. It's just a part of the craziness of explosive movement and a guy is coming after you and — it's kind of what you sign up for. So forot it's like dude we can't fight [ __ ] once a year and then you have weight issues and clearly there seems to

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be a mental block in you getting finishes because of your cardio. Let's do RAF. Let's get this rolling. Keeps your weight down. Keeps you active. Also keeps you in the limelight. Like Armen has blown the [ __ ] up, dude. — True. — He's a massive star now. — True. Um especially online. I don't know how much that translates to the general public. It's for dorks like us. — Good [ __ ] point. We are some ducks. — Riding his nuts. — He beat Giorgio twice. — Such a good point. — Uh is it Lance Palmer, the wrestler that he techalled, which is nuts. — Nuts. Uri Faber threw over the [ __ ] — That was crazy. Why' you do that? What if you both got hurt? What if you hurt your bit of a head? — Well, he's a psychopath. — Yeah, — he's a full-on psychopath. I mean, he's rich, — dude. He's so literally wealthy. — Do you see him on that stream? They go, "So, like if you want to like buy a car like $500,000 car, what do you do? " He goes, "I just call my dad. " — Yeah. His dad's like a billionaire. He's got tons of money, but — he's not lazy at all. Like, he flies in the face of this like longstanding belief that we all had that if you come from a rich family, you can't be a great fighter. — Dude, he's Batman. — It doesn't matter if he came you come from the ghetto. He's going to [ __ ] you up. He does not give a [ __ ] — Like you some [ __ ] dude's like I'm from the FLLAS, you know? Like good luck. — Cool, man. — Good luck with that [ __ ] Armenian psychopath. — Yeah. And he's pulling up in a Maybach [ __ ] caviar. — He pulls into LA. I watch his uh YouTube videos. He's, you know, shows him training and all the different stuff that he does. He when he lands in LA, he goes immediately to a exotic rental car place and rents a Lamborghini and drives it to the training lab. — [ __ ] not the way it's supposed to work, but pulls it off, — bro. Good luck with that guy. Don't make fun of him for being like a Greek god. Can wrestle like a [ __ ] elite top tier wrestler — and he can strike and he can submit you. Good luck. And he's angry because he he's denied a shot at the title because he hurt his back when he was getting ready to fight Ilia, — which is the best thing that ever happened to him. — You would think so? Yeah, because look how much big because he we were [ __ ] dorks and we knew who he was, but the general like especially online, no one his profile's so big now. — I think it's just with dorks. I mean, I think — but those dorks the equal sponsorship money. — Well, here's the deal. There's only one compelling fight. Look at the [ __ ] build on this cat. That is not a guy that grew up with a billionaire dad who could just go buy a [ __ ] Lamborghini with his credit card if he wants to. Bruce Wayne, but his parents are still alive. — It's nuts. — He has no reason to be upset. — Well, I'll tell you what, Armenians, look at the [ __ ] Shut the [ __ ] up, man. — Just shut up. — Great body. — That's ridiculous. That makes me want to just quit and eat [ __ ] potatoes all day or — or get you in that [ __ ] kind of shape. — I'm kidding. Yeah. Or just get ripped. This episode is sponsored by Better Help. We've all been there. Staying up late, stressed about the future. Maybe you're worried about finding a job or a looming deadline. Whatever you're feeling stressed out about, you don't have to work it out on your own. No one person has all of life's answers. And it's a sign of strength and self-awareness to reach out for help. That's why this mental health awareness month, we're reminding you to stop going at it alone. Get the support you need with a fully licensed therapist from BetterHelp. They make connecting with a therapist convenient and easy. Everything is online. Literally all you need to do is answer a few questions and Better Help will take care of the rest. They'll come up with a list of recommended therapists that match what you need. And with over 10 years of experience, they typically get it right the first time. So, you don't have to be on this journey alone. Find support and have someone with you in therapy. Sign up and get 10% off at betterhelp. com/jre. That's better. H ELP. comjre. But it's like he's the compelling matchup for Ilia. If Ilia gets past Justin, if Justin beats Ilia, it is not only one of the greatest upsets of all time, it is one of the greatest caps to a career of all time. Like if he all through what he's been through, wins the interim title, wins the BMF title. If he does that and caps his career off, you go, "Fuck yeah, dude. Way to go out, — brother. If he beats Ilia Turret at UFC Freedom 250 in front of Donald Trump, he's the only American that gets the belt. It's bigger. It's beyond just MMA UFC. Miracle on ice. [ __ ] off. This is m Imagine the headlines, dude. — Yes. — And if he beats that guy, — bro, — in his prime who's knocking everyone into the shadow realm, he says to Charles Olivivera, "I'm sorry, it has to be you. " has a celebration party the night before

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the fight. — At a party. — He was drinking wine and [ __ ] — No, he wasn't. Was he? — Was he? Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's drinking wine. — No, I think it was water. — No, I'm pretty sure he's drinking wine. Imagine that [ __ ] psychopath. He get starch. — Yeah. And he's got that beautiful [ __ ] Spanish accent. — Yeah, dude. Just checks all boxes. — Checks all the boxes. — It's such a tough fight for Justin, but I'm rooting for I love both of them. But just for the sheer fact of again I like chaos in at that in front of the weird elites watching the fight. You don't know what the [ __ ] going on. It's gonna be great if Justin pulls it off. — Yeah, off it'll be one of the greatest upsets of all time. victories of all time. And if he does just retire. Tapora plans to celebrate before the gate clash at the White House. Of course he's going to celebrate. — Whatever he's doing, — that's his move. Whatever he does, — he's doing it again. — Massive celebration dinner the night before his lightweight belt. on it. — We're going to celebrate before the fight. Actually, we have everything organized. My team is already taking care of that. — That's a mind [ __ ] and a half when you're in your hotel room, — you know, and you're just [ __ ] scrolling on Instagram thinking about 24 hours from now you're going to be fighting and you're like, "What's what's this [ __ ] doing? " Oh, he's [ __ ] standing on top of a table dancing. — That's how sure he is. He's going to beat the [ __ ] out of you. — He's eating spaghetti and [ __ ] doing a salsa dance. Like what the [ __ ] are you talking about, man? — Yeah. And when did you see when all the fighters are at the White House, Trump's like, "I thought you liked this guy. " You know, you're like, "Oh, fuck. " — Because why would you give your friend his toughest test? — Yeah. Well, for Gachi, that's the last fight. I mean, if this is really going to be his last fight, that is the last fight. And — it's smart. — It's smart because that that Patty fight is, you know, entertaining fight for the Casuals, but as far as technical wise, it was so sloppy, man. It was just so sloppy. Well, Justin told me that that's what he wanted to do, — which he should do. — He just wanted to just go, "Fuck you. " And just come at him and just throw caution to the wind and just almost fight like he did like back in the PFL days, — World Series of Fighting. — That's what it was, right? — Yeah, that's right. — That's exactly what he should be doing. And have done. And then for Patty, it was a sloppy fight, but he got the job done. But you can tell like and it's all good. This isn't a knock on Justin. All the years, all the wars, one of the greatest careers we've ever seen. It catches up with you — 100%. It has to. — And now here's Ilia Taporia. — But again, I bet Justin wouldn't have it any other way. You have an opportunity to pull off one of the biggest, if not the biggest upset we've ever seen. And Trevor Whitman [ __ ] White House. — The um Justin has an awesome series, uh the Art of Violence, I think it's called. — It's on, uh YouTube, and it's all talking about him preparing. It's all videos of him training. And Trevor Whitman's in it. And Trevor was saying, "We love being the underdog. We love it. " and he talked about being the underdog with Rose Namayunes when she beat um uh Yawan Yo Jek when she beat Yang Lee. Same thing like that they love being the underdog in those situations like stopping way Lee was nuts. — Crazy. — You know that she was the underdog head kicks her. — Yep. — Crazy. — And that — this is a little different but I hear you. — It is different. — But it is it's similar in ways the Jeang Lee is because Jean Lee is [ __ ] everybody. — Scary. There's no one like her. The physicality of her at straw weight, she was a [ __ ] monster. Like, her training was bananas. — Crazy. — I'd watch her training, I'd go, "Good lord, — who's going to beat her? — She's like her shoulders and shit. " — But the way she trains, she trains like a dude. Yeah. — Like an angry dude. You know what I mean? Like women — haircut to show. — And it's not a knock on the way women train. Not I'm not saying that. I'm saying like the ferocity was like she's FILLED WITH TESTOSTERONE. HOT. LIKE SHE'S trying to kill somebody. — Probably is, Joe. — She might be. It might be natural. It might have slipped something into her noodles. — Do you see that one fighter who got busted? And she goes, "Oh man, I was I took my husband's vitamins and just have me steroids. " — Yeah, my husband. She threw her husband under the bus for taking steroids. — You [ __ ] up. — Is he an active fighter? — I don't think so. Is he J? No, he's probably just some meatthead. He's like, "Yeah, I guess this works. " Yeah, me too. Cuz if he's an active fighter, he'd be like, "What? — What the [ __ ] Now we're both fucked. " — Yeah. — Say somebody gave you the wrong thing. — Yeah. — But back to and uh and Rose, the difference with that is Rose was still pretty inner prime there, — you know. — Yes. 100%. That's a good point. Real good point. Um Justin's not in his prime, but damn, he didn't look like he lost a step in the Patty Pimpblelet fight. He looked like he just was just being an animal. And Pimble's [ __ ] good, man. You see what Pimblelet did to Bobby Green? And granted, Bobby Green's not quite at the same level, although he looked [ __ ] sensational. — He looked good — against Jeremy Stevens. — He keeps doing the damn thing. — But also, that style is so fun. Talking [ __ ] pointing at you. — Fun, man. — So fun. One of my faves. So fun. How about at the end of the fight when I'm

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interviewing him, he's like, "Come walk with me. " And he takes me over to D. Yo, Dana. — Yeah. He wants that bonus. They've never given bonus. He was just talking about how he's one of the most exciting fighters that's ever done it. — Yeah, he's awesome. I'm like, "Everybody knows that. " He's like, "Well, I didn't get my [ __ ] bonus. " — Yeah, but I'm kind of with Dana on the bonus. Dana goes, "Well, we do it. " Also, your strength of SK your opponent like — Zel Huber was good, dude. He beat Zel Huber in his last fight and stopped him. That was he should have got a That's what he was talking about. — Well, but for this last fight, for his last fight, you know, he fought Jeremy Stevens. great fight, great fighter, but you know, compared to like the other guys on the card, it's that's why Danny's like, "Well, — well, he was complaining about not getting a bonus in his last fight. That's why he wanted a bonus in this fight. " He was saying the Cuz I even asked him, I go, "You didn't get a bonus for his Zel Huber fight. " — He got 25K, right? Cuz I didn't they if you get a finish, no matter what you get, but he wanted the big boy bonus. — Yeah. I'd hate I hate all of it. I hate people that have to ask for bonuses. You know, look, the money is there, right? We know the money's there. Like, they This is a $7 billion deal. I'm not a businessman. I'll say that right now. If I was running the UFC, the stockholders, they would [ __ ] kick me out. The shareholders would have me fired. — I wouldn't You don't want affliction. Yeah. You don't want that. — You don't want me running no the UFC because I treat it like I was a communist. — I'm also Yeah, me too. I'm also a little more careful the way I talk about it, too, because I don't know their books. I don't know how to run a giant company like that. I assume with $7. 7 billion, I'm like, man, I feel like we could give some over here. But then if you talk to somebody in the know, they're like, "Oh, do you? " Well, look at this [ __ ] I'm like, "Oh, my bad. My bad. " — Now, this is not a knock on Ari Emanuel, but it was reported that he made $67 million last year. — They worked very hard. — I'm sure he did. But that was from the UFC, from TKO, right? That was his payout. And he he's got a bunch of other things going on. He's a very successful guy. But is he the reason they sold for $7. 7 billion? — He's a big part of it. 100%. And the big and also he took the big chance in purchasing it for $2 billion which was a big deal. — You know the whole thing is like this is why you're in business. — Um I think fighting is different than any other business. And the reason why I say this and you could speak to this more than anybody. You are putting your health on the line in a way that is not required in any other business other than maybe football and boxing and kickboxing. You're putting your health on the line in a way that's different than any other business. You are the only thing that people are tuning in for. There's without the fighters, there is no UFC. It doesn't exist. Correct. It is the entire product, the thing you're selling is entirely fighters. And it's fighters that operate for a short window of their prime. They have 10 years or whatever they have. And when they get out, you know, we've all talked about guys that are mumbling now. You can't understand what the [ __ ] they say. You see like ticks that they have and guys who have neurological problems, memory problems. It's real. So I don't think we should think of it like any other business because the entire business model is these guys bodies and the consequence is their health and it's for the rest of their life. And so if you're doing something that is is generating a significant amount of money for a very short amount of time I think you should get a lot of money for that if you are one of those people. the amount of money that is left over for the other people, the people that are making the money that put the money in, they should still get a lot of money, which is why they did it in the first place. But I don't think the balance is correct. Now, I am biased, right? Because again, I'm not a businessman, but I have a deep empathy for people who put themselves in front of harm and try to chase that glory for our entertainment, for the sport that we love. And I think they should be compensated more. — Yeah. I don't I don't think you're I mean, obviously, we're biased because we love fighters and I was a fighter. It It's not even about being biased. It's just It's just — fairness. It's fairness in the marketplace. And — well, the thing is — it it's such a dicey thing. And I know people hate when I bring up fighter talk, and I get sick of it, too, because I don't know what you can really do because I simple. Well, I go, "Is it though? " Because here's the thing. People will go, "Okay, they made 7. 7 billion. Here's their overhead. We don't know what's going on. " But it's like if the UFC is the only sports combat sports promotion to ever make money ever, — right? — Nobody else has ever done it better or made profit. So, my thing is like, is

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this what it is this just what it is? And I know some people are like, "You're such an idiot. They have this leftover money. " I hear you. But I'm saying there's PFL, Bellator, Affliction, World Series there. We can go through the list. One championship. None of them are around somewhere in like their last leg. No one's ever been able to sustain it. So all I'm And I'm not saying we don't deserve more [ __ ] money. All I'm saying is, is this just how it goes in the fight business? I don't know. I'm not businessman. I know people are yelling right now, you're [ __ ] it. I'm just saying is is fighting different where hey man that's just it's not the NFL. It's not the NBA. It's not MLB. In order for us to continue this rise, this is what it is. It's 18% to the fighters. — I don't know, Joe. — Okay. Well, that's what I'm saying. I don't know. — Good points. First of all, let's just give the UFC its flowers because without I love the kids say that these days. Give it — Give flowers. Good saying. — Have your daughter started using buns yet? — Oh, yeah. They use that. — Yeah. I just found my my son — bad. Buns is bad. — Yeah, I didn't know. I got a new truck. My son's like, "That thing's buns. " I'm like, "Is that good? " — Saying it's ass. — I know, but buns are always like cute buns. — Yeah, I know. The lady is [ __ ] — Yeah, we're young Jamie. — But what were we saying? — Um, the UFC is the greatest organization in combat sports history, period. There's nothing even close. The product is so much better than any boxing promotion. And my friends that I've brought to the UFC that are boxing fans, like my friend Josh Dubin, he was like, "The [ __ ] productions incredible. " He goes, "It's so much more exciting than any boxing event. It's so much better. " That is 100% true. They've also been a consolidated organization forever, right? I mean, it was a different owner. It was Bob Myowitz back in the day in 97 when I worked for them. But from 2021 on, so for the last 25 [ __ ] years, it's been Zufa, right? They sold Zufa. Now Zufa is s sold to Ari, Emanuel, TKO, and — but the same people are running it, right? It's still Dana White. It's still all these people behind the scenes. — That's another conversation we have. — Yeah. It's still Anic. It's still me and DC and Michael Bisping and all the other people that are doing commentary and you know Dominic Cruz and Paul Felder and Laura Senko. It's still the team's the same. The team behind the scenes is the same. It's so polished. There's never a problem. When I show up at the UFC, everything's so smooth. You go in, say hi to everybody. I show my badge to the [ __ ] security people. I say hi. We sit down. Everything is smooth. We got a hit in five minutes. Okay, great. Everybody's there. The sound guy is on point. The camera, everything is on point. It's so easy. — And it's like the production in the truck is so [ __ ] good. They always have the right angle. Gioano is always on the case when it comes to like getting the right angle for a submission or if I ask for something, I got it right away. Like I'll push the button, you know, let me hear his corner. Yeah. And it's boom, they're right on it. It's they're the best. Yes. And you notice that when you see other promotions. It's like other promotions the camera works on is good. It's like they are good. It's the machine is so good and it's become like the NFL. Like I know the XFL exists. I've never even [ __ ] heard of a game. I've never even heard of a game player. — No one's even brought up a game that's going to happen. I know it's a thing. — And the problem with casuals, that's the same with the PFL. Even though the PFL's [ __ ] got really good fighters. There's really good fighters in the PFL. — Far cry from the OC. Yeah, — some of them are really good, man. That cat that just knocked out Hennon Ferrar, the guy who's the um the heavyweight that is Fedor's protege. — Oh, yeah. Yeah, the Russian cat. — He's good, — bro. — He's good — in the UFC's [ __ ] shallow ass heavyweight division. We could use that guy. — I'd like to show up at that dude's hotel room in a [ __ ] briefcase full money. Like, let's go, dog. But yeah, my thing with the UFC and when you talk about the staff and you got to give them their flowers. They're the only one that's figured it out. They're the best. The best organization by far and they deserve to be rich because of that. They've made an incredible product. — So do the fighters though. — I think your product is entirely dependent on the fighters. Now this is my position with my comedy club. So my comedy club pays different than every comedy club. The fighter the fighters the comedians make most of the money when it comes to the door. That's how it should be. — But let me ask you this, Joe. It's too much. We're like, "Dude, get the [ __ ] out of here. " But is your is the Mothership compared to the Comedy Store, the improv, are you guys crushing them? It's doing really well. I mean, the Comedy Store is always going to be one of the great clubs on Earth. It It's a legendary club. It's dependent upon who's there. The difference between the way the Comedy Store does it and the way we do it is that we bring in national headliners for the weekend. Like the weekend it might be David Tell. This week is Tony Rock.

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— Is there another club that does that? Is there kind of store is a little different cuz you have your regulars. Is there another club that does that? — Sure. Most clubs do that for the weekends, but the thing is they don't have the same lineup for the weekdays. The weekdays we've got Shane Gillis, Ron White, Tony Hinchcliffe, Kill Tony's there every Monday. It's a different — That's what I'm saying. Is there anybody doing that? Because the comics have to be my whole point is what however you run your business. It's like is the model where you're doing it, where the comics are making the majority of the money, is that a sustainable business? — 100%. It makes money. If if we take Joe Rogan out of it — and you and some dude want to start a club and did the same thing, is that going to be profitable? — No, you have to have the talent. But that's the difference. It's like the thing with the PFL versus the UFC. You have to have the talent, right? And the reason why our club works is because everything, look, it's pure luck. Everything had to line up. We had to hit every green light. It had to co had to happen. The comedy store had to get shut down. All the employees from the comedy store had to get fired. We had to not be able to do standup in LA. I had to be worried about my family and like the crime and the the riots. — And then the co [ __ ] where everyone was wearing a mask. I was like this is bananas. And then moving to Texas or just visiting Texas, — but you got to give yourself credit like luck. Yes. But you were also the guy that had the idea to do it. Most people would pull that trigger. You didn't have to do that. — That is true. But it's a lot of luck because it had to happen at the right time. a time in my career where I had a lot of money, you know. So it happened had to happen when the Spotify deal took place. So I had all this money and then it all had a lineup where I was already the number one podcast in the world. So I could easily get people to come — because of you Joe. — I understand. — No, no. It's I'm just being honest. Like it had to line up. — So I couldn't have done it on my own. I had to come here and Ron White was already here. So Ron White's a big reason why the club I mean he was one of the main reasons why I moved here. — I know — because I was like — even if I never do comedy again and I was really wondering if we're ever going to do comedy again. — Ron's here. I'll hang out with Ron. We'll have laughs. — Yeah. — So when I moved here and then all a sudden Tony Tom Seagura moved here and Brian Simpson moved here and Assan moved here and Bri and Derek Poston moved here and it was like oh [ __ ] we got something cooking and then Tim Dylan came here and then it was like oh my god. And then Duncan Trussell moved here. I was like, "Holy shit. " — Well, they're moving because you're here, too. — I understand. But they — mothership, — right? But they had to do it before the mothership even opened, — right? They all moved before the mothership opened. Shane moved after the mother ship opened. But they all came in early and trusted me. Yes. — And so I was like, "Okay, these guys, I owe them what they took a chance with their future. I have to throw everything into this and alto together we'll do it. — Yeah. — So it's our club. It's really our club. But it had to happen in a way where I had this disposable money. — I had disposable income where I could do it and it wouldn't hurt me and then I could set it up in a way where the comics make so much money. So that way you encourage people to stay. So there's so many people that are there all week long during the week. They don't have to go do shows other places. They can make money at their home club. — You're doing it right. I guess my example like can the UFC do that? Cuz because my example for you it's like can these other comic clubs do that and sustain and grow and have money and — they could in New York and they might be able to do it in LA. So I don't think you could do it in LA right now because the store is open and the store is always going to be the premier club in the world. It's always legendary. It's on Sunset Strip. Even though LA's falling apart, it's still the legendary destination for standup comedy. It's one of the main reasons why I was excited to move to LA. It was Mecca. It was when I was a an a beginner in an open micer in 1988. They would talk about the store like it was Mecca. Like you had to go to the store. — They still do though. I don't think that's ever going away. — Of course. It's, you know, the store comes and goes in cycles. Like it always does. It always goes in cycles depending on who's in town, who's there. It's a very It's All comedy clubs are dependent upon what talent is in town during the weekdays. And if you don't bring in talent on the weekends, — that's the difference. It's like so the store doesn't bring in headliners for the weekend like the way our club does. I told um Scott Shore I was like I think no it was Peter sorry I told Peter Shore I was like I think you guys should do that. I think you should like — But do they have to though? Because you can still go on a Saturday night and you'll see, you know, Yes. big names will big names. — But you could have those people there still as well. Like they could also do shows with that person and you have two other rooms and that's what you guys do. — You have the O and you have the bell room. You have three rooms in one location. Like you could still have the O filled with top talent cuz they don't give a [ __ ] where they're performing in the big stage or the little stage. In fact, most of us prefer the little stage. The O is an amazing room, — but the thing is it's like you have to

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have enough talent in town. And a lot of people moved out of LA. Yeah. Joey Diaz Like a lot of people moved out of it. Theo moved out. A lot of people moved out. — So the problem is you would have to have enough talent there and then talent that was there all the time like us. Like we're at the club all the time. I think and going back to if the UFC could do this like they're profiting so much now there's no reason to. — That's the other issue. — This is the problem. — You want to hear my idea though? idea? And you might be like you're out of your [ __ ] mind and it's and again I'm not anti nothing. You cut my [ __ ] wrist right now. Bubble Riley spills out. I [ __ ] bleed UFC. I made my entire career. — Yeah. — When that Paramount deal was announced and I'm a wild boy. When that premat deal was announced, what I would have done is, and this is the issue why things will never change. I would have talked to all the managers, all the fighters, and said, "We're not fighting another fight. They just signed this huge deal, 7. 7 million. If you guys want to get your equal share, nobody's agreeing to a fight bout, to a fight card, unless we get, I don't know, someone's going to figure out 30%. " So, it's 18% right now. If we go up 30%, which they're still gonna have profit, if they agree to that, then we'll fight. But they there's no deal if we don't fight, right? Those days are over now. So, you miss the mark. Now, you're going to say, "Yeah, but they can get other guys to do that. " And I'm saying across the board, we all agree as fighters, we're not going to [ __ ] move a inch. — If you can get fighters to agree to that, it would work. — That's the problem. — It'll never happen. — Not in a million years. — That was my idea. Then here's the other thought that Dana White has this thought about fighters that when they get paid too much and they get rich, their careers end earlier. — But — Oh, that's the other — Arman Saruki. — And he's right. — Yeah. Well, there's Armen who's Bruce Wayne, but for the most part, he's right. Don't go through anybody's career. — He's kind of right. He's kind of right, but it doesn't matter. That's on them. — Yeah. Agree. — Yeah, that's fair. — Yeah. I mean, he's right, but you can't protect them for unless you have a bonus that you're going to pay them out when they retire, and they're not going to do that. — But the other thing, I think Sean Shelby said this, uh, it might have been Mick Manard. One of them was like, the other issue we have is when guys get paid a lot and then we offer them fights, we're not getting the fights we want to make. Once they have that goose egg, they're like, "No, I'm not fighting that [ __ ] guy. " Guy's a nightmare. — I know. — But again, you can't base it off of that because I'm sure there are some guys who will do it — and you [ __ ] with them. But it's not a reason not to pay him. Listen, it's all this is hippie talk. But I feel like if I would if I was if I owned the UFC, I would not feel good if people didn't feel compensated correctly. This is just my feeling. And I'm not a good businessman. If you want to be a good businessman, you got to make the most money possible. — I don't know, Joe. You've done pretty [ __ ] well, Bubba. — Lot of luck. — You got to quit saying luck. You're driving me nuts. No, but You work harder than anybody else. — Well, I work hard when I listen, I stick with things and I have a good work ethic. That is true. But — that's half the battle. — Yeah. But I'm not like a businessman in the sense of like if I was running a business like that, I wouldn't treat it the same way. I wouldn't say I'm trying to make the most money possible. I would say I got money and let's just make this [ __ ] the greatest thing of all time and make everybody feel good about it. — Yeah. But again, I don't know the in-n-outs. I don't know if you can run a organization like that and be profit. I don't know. — Well, it' be profitable, but it wouldn't be as profitable. And that's the thing when you have shareholders. So, when you have shareholders, you have an obligation to your shareholders to maximize your profits. — And and this is the only knock on the UC I have is in order to get that $7. 7 billion deal, you have to put on whatever it is, 45 fight cards a year, — right? — So, like those fight nights. So now you don't really have the talent or the stars to fulfill those cards. But because you made this deal with Paramount, now you're getting just, you know, you're signed these contender series kids who have three fights, four fights where 10 years ago those boys ain't sniffing the UFC. It was so hard to get in. But now, because we have to fulfill those cards, you're getting a lower level of talent. — Yeah. Well, here's what's interesting. So, um, one of the players in the purchasing of the UFC, of the rights to the UFC, was Netflix. they were one of the players. people that were thinking about doing it. Um, so there was negotiations with them. ESPN. And ultimately Paramount was like this wild dark horse that came around with the big money. — And I like Paramount. I have no issues. Yeah. Look, — I love the — ads are weird, but whatever. — I love Mob Land. I love Land Man. Yeah, Mob Land is [ __ ] great. You ever watch that? — [ __ ] yeah. Audi his RS6 in that so bad.

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I was trying to convince my wife. — I never wanted a wagon until I saw Tom Har. — They're [ __ ] sick. They're so sick. — It's a great show. Uh, but Paramount has awesome shows. So, it makes sense. I already had it. Great. Perfect. I love the fact there's no pay-per-view. — But what's interesting about Netflix not doing it because I think Netflix didn't want the I might be talking out of school, but I'll just say it. I believe what I heard take this here's a caveat is that Netflix did not want the small fights. They did not want fight nights. — Good for them. — They only wanted the big ones. — They're like, "Get that [ __ ] out of us. " — Well, some of the fight nights are [ __ ] awesome. — We like them cuz we're degenerates. The public's like, "Who the [ __ ] are these guys? " — Apex, there's no one there. — Yeah. I love that Netflix, what take the — I love the Apex fights. I've been planning on going to an Apex fight card. I'm trying to find the right one just to go and watch. I just want to Let's [ __ ] go. I would love that. I just want to go to watch because they'll let you in if you come with me. — Yeah, — I feel like I don't have any enemies here anymore. I kind of stood by the fact they didn't want the volume. — That's it. That's how they say it, which we understood from the get-go. Uh Ted Sarandos, who I love. Um Bella Bajaria, I don't knew her. Uh we're very upfront with that. We're looking for big events. So, the fact that you could give us one pay-per-view, which is just we were just going to put on the platform for free. As long as you're a subscriber, as long as you just give us that, we're in, we'll pay premium for it, but we don't want to carry the other 30 fight nights. — They say we don't want the [ __ ] But here's the thing. — But then where would those 30 fight nights go? That's the question. — Well, but then that fulfills NFL Bellator or you — Fight Pass. — Yeah, Fight Pass could do that. — Blow up Fight Pass. — But to again the business side of it, the Zufa or TKO is going, "Well, hold on. The reason we get such a big nut, 7. 7 billion, cuz we offer so much content. You guys are trying to do what our game plan was 15 years ago, which are just one big fight every once a month, which for the fans is [ __ ] awesome. It makes sense for Zufa and Netflix. I get it. All of it made sense. — It just wasn't a fit. But what I was getting at is now it's interesting because Netflix has got a lot of money. — Netflix throws some money around, right? And Netflix has a tremendous amount of subscribers and now Netflix is in the MMA game. — I'm glad you brought that up. — So, have you anybody talk about it? — Keep going. — Us dorks like you and me. — No, no one in the real world is talking about it to me. But that's okay. The point is they're going to do it and just because it's on Netflix, I guarantee you millions of people will watch it. I bet they'll have a hard time selling live tickets. — Let's see if it's sold out. — It's definitely not. And the tickets are $88. Um, but the this is where it gets tricky because the more places fighters have to go, the better because UFC has no competition. It's a monopoly. All good, which NFL is, NBA is. I have no issues with that. — Right. So, if fighters, bigname fighters have a place to go and can get paid, I'm all for it. — Right. — The issue of this Netflix and getting MMA, it's like my thing would be, well, what's the plan here? — Mhm. — You know, so Ronda and Gino fight this weekend. You got two four-year-olds fighting the main event. It it's going to get good numbers, but again, and you know this, you've been in business with Netflix. They're not going to give you the real numbers, right? When you negotiate, they don't give you the real numbers. — No, they don't tell you [ __ ] They say you did great. — They don't tell you. But then all of a sudden Jake Paul did 400 million people. I'm like really did he? So they're going to say — well Jake Paul can say that right? Did Netflix say that this 400 million people [ __ ] like that? Some [ __ ] — How many people have Netflix? I don't think they have that many. — I made up a crazy number but it's a ton of people. — Last article said that they have over 300 million subscribers. So 100 million people were — so say 100 million. Yeah. So let's say 100. But so and right now you know and I get run as being a promoter. She learned from Dana. She's like, "We're going to destroy the White House. " I disagree. I don't think it does, but Netflix will tell you they did. — Well, here's the thing. Even if it gets really good numbers, Jake Paul versus Anthony Joshua, 33 million viewers on Netflix. That's really good. Um I don't know what the Sean Strickland um Hamzach Chamay numbers were. They might not have been 33 million. Maybe they were. I don't know. The thing about it being Paramount, Paramount does not have the number of subscribers that Netflix has. How many subscribers? I'm guessing I might be wrong. — I think they have like 60 million, right? — How many subscribers does Paramount Plus have? — But this is what you're not taking consideration. Paramount and the UFC, it's only in America. So in Canada and other like Paramount in Europe, there's this not a thing, right? — So what are those views now? — Right? — You know, like when we're adding all this up, Paramount in other countries. — I don't think the Paramount's in

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Europe and [ __ ] like that. They're watching on like Sky Sports, I think, out there. They have a different deal. — Oh, interesting. — And then Australia, I think, still has pay-per-view. — Interesting. That I think you're right. Okay. 79 million p subscribers. So, that's a big difference between It says globally. — Yeah. Half of them are in the US. — 35 million Um, are there any countries where Paramount is not in? Let's put that into — Yeah, but I still think that UFC deal was just for the US. — Yeah, it's Just for the US. Okay. — Because UK Sky Sports. — So that means there's only 35 million people that it's reaching. Period. So they'll never get to the Jake Paul number. The Jake Paul number of the Anthony Joshua fight. If that's an accurate number, 33 million. They're never going to get to that. — But remember, the White House is also on CBS. — That's different. — How many people on CBS? are watching regular TV? I maybe they might 30 more views. — Oh, my dad's crunk. That shit's on channel 4 in Denver, Colorado. Use your rabbit ears. Pick it up. They still have regular TV, man. Regular TV is crazy. — Like some people have to [ __ ] move the antenna. The signals coming in bad. — Crazy. — People There's people out there with regular TV. — Yeah. Hell yeah. — That's wild. Where they only have the four channels. That's crazy. — And they're just getting their news from like [ __ ] you know, — robots. Fox and [ __ ] — They don't even get Fox. Fox is cable. — That's right. — Regular TV, you ain't getting jack [ __ ] Channel two. — They can swear on Fox. — Can they? — I believe so. Because if it's found cable, I think you're allowed to swear. — Oh, wow. — I think so. — Yeah, but I don't think Fox is Fox. Well, there's a broadcast version of Fox, though, — right? But is it uh regulated? — If it's broadcast, it is. That's the whole — But Fox still, right? But broadcast and cable. So what do you mean by there's a broadcast version? So there's a version — doth over the air. What's what avail what's available through the air? That's what the FCC is. — So the broadcast version meaning that you could just get it with a regular antenna. — Yeah. There's like a local Fox. — Okay. You're right. You're right. Okay. — That came way later. I'm so old. I remember when Fox was just cable. — Channel 31. I remember we wanted to show the Simpsons and Mary were children. Simpsons do. — Maybe it was broadcast back then. Maybe I'm wrong. I think I am — hard to get. It wasn't the strongest of signals in most places. — Okay. But it was always broadcast. — But my have [ __ ] times changed now because there's like you talk about Mob Land. There's so many dope shows. There's so many good shows out there. But it's like hot for like a week and then something else comes. There's too much. Like I don't like there'll never be like Game of Thrones or Sopranos where it's like the entire world shuts down. We all just kind of binge it when we want and there's a new show here. It's not good, man. — True. That's a fact. Um, — try selling a show right now. Like that I was talking about that my Gearheads gone wild on Tuby. Tuby has [ __ ] I think 300 million subscribers. They're big. But trying to sell a show — 300 million subscribers on Tuby. — Tuby's [ __ ] massive. I didn't know either. When I first got the offer, I'm like, where? — But again, trying to sell a show is [ __ ] tough. a car show. Tough, dude. I didn't know 2B had that many subscribers. — Look that up to make sure. I've been so exaggerating this. — Surpassed 100 million monthly active users. Um, but I don't know. — How many subscribers do they have in total? — That's I know the number. — Is it a subscriber thing or is it like a YouTube thing? We could just like — and they have more view. I would imagine it's tiered. They have it says a free ad supported streaming service rather than subscriptionbased model. It's free, but they have subscribed and then you can get the non ad paid where you pay, I think. — Oh, okay. — So, but you can just get it for free. Yeah. Like YouTube Red and Right. — YouTube is probably the biggest. — Well, like they probably have the most active viewers worldwide. — Not even close, right? But then remember they tried doing like shows and it just ate [ __ ] Like YouTube Red, you remember YouTube Red? And they had they're like making offers. — I remember YouTube. I think it's crazy. — It's interesting because just a regular show on YouTube can do really well. Like Mr. Beast. — Yeah. But I think YouTube Red was like kind of a little before that, right? And they're like, "Put your shows on here. " And like I think — they jumped the gun. — Yeah. Mr. Beast was like, "Or I'll just put my [ __ ] out and everybody in the world will watch it. " — The thing about if you put your [ __ ] on YouTube, there's literally an infinite number of options and channels. That's the thing. And it's to completely dependent on what you see. Like the recommended for you, it's completely what you're interested in. — Well, now everything's niche now. It's like there's people out there we don't even know. And like my kids are like, "Dad, he has 60 million subscribers. " I'm like, "What the [ __ ] I've never heard of this [ __ ] guy. — I know. — You know how much money he's making? — But it's all niche. Everything's niche. " — There's that, but then there's also astrourfing. There's a lot of these.

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Astroturfing is when you have fake downloads, fake views, you have like companies that you can hire and they will get you views. — And so, but here's the thing. — That's going to [ __ ] you. — It'll [ __ ] you. But, but the point is people still do it. And they do it because it's you can do it right now, right? And so, what that means is like say if you have like millions and millions of subscribers and then you look at the views, the views are hundreds of thousands of views. Then you look at the comments like [ __ ] five comments. — Six comments like what the [ __ ] is going on? — What's going on here? — But it's a weird thing to do because in order to make money, YouTube sees the back end. So if you're trying to make money off your show, — right? — You're not going to make money, — but it'll get bigger because of the number. So here's the thing. Like so if you go to like brennanob. com, if you did that, if you have Brendan Chob's YouTube channel and I looked at it, I'm like, damn, he's got 25 million subscribers. Well, I should [ __ ] subscribe. People do that. They'll click on it and they'll click on your views or your videos more often. — You think they're like missing out like clearly this guy's doing something right. — Of course, it definitely I don't I'm not saying that's responsible for all the views that you'll get because of that, but it has an impact on how people see you. You look more legitimate. And if you're trying to develop sponsor deals or some sort of a brand endorsement deal like, well, I've got 20 million subscribers on YouTube. Like, oh, this guy's big. Yeah, it definitely. But then they're like, "But there's three comments. " — Well, there was uh there was scammers that were doing weird stuff in the early days of podcast where they would rig things to exaggerate downloads back in the early days of audio only. — Oh, yeah. And then someone came and regulated it. Exactly. — But we It's not like we were all in on it. Like it was someone who was running cuz we're all kind of using the same audio thing. And I remember telling Brian, I'm like, "Dude, we got 30 million [ __ ] audio 30 mil, dude, this month. " And then Tom's like, "Yeah, I got 60. " I'm like, "Dude, we're crushing it. " And then someone came in was like, "Actually, — yeah. " What it was doing was like every time someone clicked on it, it would count so that like I I'm talking completely if they started stopped it, right? Count it counted over and over again as multiple listens. — That's right. — And I think they do that with other things too. Like, so you have to figure out like who the actual number of people, but people have been accused of making like you can you could pay to get Instagram accounts. You can get followers. There's companies that will get you followers. I don't know if it's legit or legal, but I know for a fact that some people — Instagram in the background, doesn't YouTube, don't they try to shut that [ __ ] down? — They definitely do. — Millions of bots over the weekend, — 100%. And I notice it sometimes. I'll notice it. Well, I'll lose like a hundred thousand. Yeah, I lost 100,000. — Yeah, but there are bots 100% and there's a ton of them and they catch some of them, but some of them are more sophisticated in their approach and then they adjust. So once they realize what gets them caught, you could run an AI program. So, if you run an AI program and you have a like if you're in [ __ ] Singapore or wherever you're at doing this, you could run an AI program that controls a bunch of different cell phones that has accounts and you could have them even commenting on things. And you'll notice this sometimes and they'll be programmed to comment positive or negative or and it seems like a [ __ ] person, man. Wow. But you'll see that there's like a bunch of numbers after a couple of letters or a name like Bob 567254. And then you see like, God, I don't think Bob's a person. And then you go to Bob's account and you're like, there's almost no chance that Bob's a person. Meanwhile, Bob's posting all the time and making comments on things all the time. And most likely what this is it's paid engagement. So, it's not just paid views, but because of AI and because of programs you could run, there's the potential for paid engagement back and forth. — Me and SH were talking about before you got here is some I don't know that you're aware of this, Joe. Uh the streamers paying for — the next level of what you're describing. So, it's not AI doing it. — Have you heard of Clippers? — They're paying for There's thousands of people that are just sitting around at home making a shitload of money, — a ton of money. — And they're posting uh — because you'll think certain people are bigger than they are. Like, man, I see them everywhere. It's like that's all by design — and you can pay for that, too. So, that's probably legal, right? So, — no, I mean, — no, — I Why would it should it be, — right? — I mean, it all depends on what are you doing? Are you getting money from it? Are you getting advertising revenue from it? — To your point, it's it's a false sense of fame because to your point with Arma, it's like, yeah, we know him and the and he's getting views online, but does that equal actual fans? I think it reinforces the fans that already love him. — Yes. — And a few people are going to hop on board, but as far as like your general casual that will not — tune in for a UFC fight card. No, — not necessarily. — But it's also a younger demo, right?

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Like, have you ever watched a stream? — No. — You're older than me. — No, never watch a stream. — No. I had a talk with a streaming company the other day. I'm like, dude, what? — Wait, wait. You want me to seven days a week turn on a camera and hear my just like breakfast and [ __ ] like hanging out with my family? — Well, the streaming thing is nuts where people just live online. First of all, how bad is that for your back and you're just ranting and raving and talking online all day. — Can't be good. But then like you know we love Rampage. Rampage does it making stupid money. — Yeah. But you know it's a good move for Rampage. You know he's not fighting anymore. It's a good move. Makes sense. And he's got the Jackson podcast that's doing well. It's good for him to diversify. do a bunch of different things. — He's crushing other — and he's also got a great personality. So, he's — he's perfect for it. — Perfect for that. — But some people, you know, — it ain't their thing. Shouldn't be doing that. — But streaming is like the biggest thing. Yeah, Jamie. I get you sound old as [ __ ] but I — We're old. Yeah. I don't — anything that's live, — you know? It's also It's like what are you doing with your life? — Like I got things to do. — I know. — I can't sit in front of the camera for 5 hours a day. I don't understand how anybody does it. But also, is it that entertaining? Like my life's not [ __ ] lit. — They talk a lot of [ __ ] on camera and then they watch a bunch of things and react to things. There's a lot of that. Like for a lot of them, like for our channel, there was a lot of people that were making a living just going on Twitch and these other channels, these other streaming things, streaming my show and commenting on it, — like reaction videos. — Yeah. Getting mad about things and doing stuff. But they were doing that — through the They would play the whole show out. — Oh. Yeah, that's illegal. — Well, it was very shady. It was very weird because they were commenting on it, but it was like your entire content was based on my content and your reaction to my content. — But, you know, it's weird. You know, you're dunking on me or you're pumping me up or whatever you're doing. It's there is a lot of that going on. And so, then there's a lot of people that are watching whether it's Mr. Beast show and commenting on that or other shows are commenting on that. So, they're watching stuff online. Someone will send them a video of a guy getting in a street fight. comment on that. — Yeah. — And then reaction videos — and they're interacting with all these people that are in the comments making money off of it. — Yeah. And they're talking to these people that are in the comments. It's like — weird. — First of all, if you think that — social media is bad for your mental health. — Oh my god, dude. Yes. Yesterday I was driving down uh I dropped my kids off and I was going somewhere. I was going to this uh this car shop. My truck's in the shop and I was driving my father-in-law's car and I see a high school bus, Lake Travis High School. I live right by Lake Travis. I see a Lake Travis high school bus pull up. I just look over every single kid — staring at their phone — on their phone. — Yep. — Not talking to each other. Not saying it. It bummed me out so [ __ ] bad. — You know the fun we used to have on that bus. — I know. — And no one's talking to each other. — I know. — The bus is silent. — I'm like, "God, you guys are doing it wrong. " — Well, it's not. — I want to jump on that bus like, "Hey, listen. I know I'm the old dude. You guys are [ __ ] up right now. " — Well, you're right. But it is also where human beings are headed. We're headed into this weird world of the digital world and this is the first steps. These are the first steps we're taking by staring into a phone all day. — But we know it's not good. — Oh yeah. No, So we're just going to continue to go down this [ __ ] road. You don't think there's anything we can do? — Nope. No. People are addicted. They're 100% addicted to their phone. I don't see anything changing. I think uh if anything it's going to get more invasive and then um it's probably the I mean who knows just guessing what the next technology is going to be but as this technology moves forward it's going to get more invasive. It's going to get more you're going to interact with more people through whatever the [ __ ] it is. However they're going to do it, whether it's going to be some new tech that lets you communicate with people with a headset and you're reading each other's minds or whether you're hanging out together in augmented reality or virtual reality. — Anybody's like, "Man, we're head down to — they're not going to No one's going to. They're going to keep doing — too much money. " — No, it's just everyone's addicted and everyone uses it for too many things. It's also a primary source of news and information. I get all my um like ideas about like how the world is working from social media. Not social media commentary, but social media stories. Well, someone will post like this is going on in Iran. here. I get it off social media. of X. But you have to pick and choose in what you pay attention to. Right. — Yeah. It's dicey. And you got to find people that are not full of [ __ ] and not click engagement because there's a lot of click a lot of just clickbait [ __ ] — Majority is. — Yeah, there's a lot of that. But you also find breaking news and you also find things that you wouldn't know about, you know, like certain stories and certain things that are happening in the news and certain really crazy stories that are like, how am I not hearing about this? This is this should be [ __ ] huge. — But you don't think it's going to be

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like uh and I know we have to use it. You don't think it's going to be kind of like cigarettes like in the 60s where everyone was doing it and then eventually the parents of those kids I'm sorry the children of those parents go what the [ __ ] this is if it was a substance I would agree but the problem it is addictive but the problem is it's all facets of your life it is your calendar it is your email it is how you take pictures and all your memories — it is uh how you interact with a lot of people there's I don't even have their phone numbers I just they DM me and I DM them you know have friendships with people that are just DM. — So, it's uh there's that, but that's basically — the problem is that it's a giant part of the world now where cigarettes never really were. — We're relying on it. — Yeah. You could there was a bunch of people who didn't smoke. Even when people smoked cigarettes, like let's look this up. Throw this into perplexity, young Jamie, please. Um, during the height of smoking in the United States, what percentage of adults smoked? Let's guess. — God, back in the — back in the day, whenever it was the nuttiest, like in the 50s or whatever, — I think it was 50%. — That'd be high, right? — Crazy high. — 30%. — Crazy high. I was thinking like 33, — but it might be higher cuz those old days, man, everybody had a cigarette in their hand. Johnny Carson show. — Everyone. — Yeah. people walking down the street, smoke on planes, smoke on buses, smoke on trains. — Everybody was walking down the street smoking. But what percentage of those people were doing it? — Okay. — 40 to 45. Wow. In the mid 1960s, the height of cigarette use in the US, roughly 40 to 45% of adults smoked, which works out to the order of 80 to 90 million adults. Wow. — That's a [ __ ] That's incredible. American Lung Association summary notes that adult smoking has fallen to around from around 40 to 43% in 1965 to about 11 to 12% in 2022. I think it's back. I think people are smoking. I feel like it's lower. — see it a lot now. — Outlawed it in San Francisco outside. — That's hilarious. That's gay. — That's San Francisco. — That's gay. That makes sense. — The San Francisco tree. Well, you hear what they're doing in the UK? If you were born um before uh or after a certain date, you can't buy cigarettes when you turn 21 — just to stop people from — Exactly. So, people that were born in like [ __ ] whatever year, whatever year they set it at, when they turn 21, they will not be able to buy cigarettes. — Just trying to eliminate — But you'll be able to buy cigarettes because you were born at a different time. They say, "Oh, you're [ __ ] You don't know any better. You can buy cigarettes. " — So stupid. — It's They're It's communism. It's socialism. Didn't they just uh run out the [ __ ] what is it they prime minister? What the [ __ ] they call him? — He's still there. — I thought they ran him out. They're bringing somebody else in. — They probably want to, but they haven't. Yeah, but the point is it's like that kind of woke socialism. It's like there it's the government telling you what to do. — When I say communism, I don't mean like they take all your money because they'll definitely do that eventually, too. But what they do is they tell you what you can say. Correct. do. They tell you what medications you have to take. It's all socialized medicine. They tell you what to do and what to say and how to think and they're gonna protect you. Protecting someone from cigarettes while you're selling them alcohol is [ __ ] bananas. — So dumb. — It's bananas. It's dumb. — But the England's lost their way, man. They've lost their identity. It's a [ __ ] show. — Well, they're arresting people like crazy for posting on social media about the immigration crisis primarily. also other things, but criticizing the government. And now they threw away jury trials for those things. So now it's a judge. And so you don't even get people like you, your peers, to sit there and go, "No, this [ __ ] guy shouldn't go to jail. His daughter got attacked by some immigrants and he said some wild [ __ ] about immigrants and no, he shouldn't be in jail for that. " — But my thing, if you like, what's the agenda? Just to ruin just ruin the [ __ ] — control. So um shrink you down to 15 minutes cities. they're implementing that in part of the UK. The other thing is a digital credit system, right? So, a digital credit score, a social score, and um some sort of centralized digital currency, which I think will probably they're probably going to try to move us all into eventually. But if they can attach your social credit score with this digital currency, then you have what they have in China. So, in China, if you [ __ ] up and you do something stupid, guess what, [ __ ] face? You can't buy a plane ticket. That's wild. — Yeah. You can't get a loan. house. — And it keeps people in line and then the government can do its job without protests. — Dude, can I piss real quick? — Two [ __ ] piss. We'll be right back, folks. — And we're back. — So much better. — I know. It's hard to concentrate when you have to piss, — bro. You were talking. I was like, "Oh, man. I really want to hear this moment to piss my pants. " — What were we talking about? Let's talk

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about your show. Um, so — we have a cigar, brother. — Yeah. Hold on, — dude. Last time I smoke it I smoked it backwards. I got roasted so hard online. — I know. I didn't notice. — I didn't notice. But maybe I just smoke them backwards from now on. Switch it up. — It is funny though. But it's really the same. It's just where the label is. — Yeah, man. What are these? — I'm a rebel. Smoke it backwards. — You are a rebel. There you go, fella. — Thanks, brother. Here's the clipper. You know how this works. — Yeah. Thanks. — Make sure you clip the right spot. — That one. There you go. Yeah. On that this cigar is different because it's not a torpedo like the other one. So the other one you could get more confused cuz both ends were pointy. Do you know how to do that? — Yeah. — Do you need help? — No, I got a big deal. — You don't look like you know. — No, I'm Dude, you know me. Cigars I smoked only in here. — Oh, light it. Oh, that's right. — Um, so your show, so your show is on 2B. — 2B? Hey, so light this part, right? — The — Well, no, but this part. — Which? Yeah, light part. — It's [ __ ] D. It's — tricky, right? No. Light just [ __ ] — Light. Yeah. Light the part that you didn't cut. — Um, what is it called? What's your show called? Gary Head's gone wild. — Oh, that's right. — Just like Girls Gone Wild. — Same text and everything. — Is that a problem? — No. Hell no. That guy's I think in [ __ ] on the Lamb in Mexico. I think we're good. — Is he really? — Was he hiding? — Yeah, I think so. — Either way, we're good. — Didn't he get like kidnapped and they [ __ ] — some dicey [ __ ] Yeah. It turned out pretty sad for him or — something. — Yeah. It's a car. I mean, it's [ __ ] with we would be doing anyways, you know. And then they wanted to make a TV show out of it. So, like I went to Calvo Vipers. He scared the [ __ ] out of me. — Calvo Vipers. I went to the biggest Porsche collection in Austin. — I'm obsessed with Safari Porsches, man. — Oh, you like those? — God, those off-road ones. — Yeah, I think Russell makes them. Russell, I forget the exact name, but Russell does. I don't know what the [ __ ] it is when it's an off-road like that. Uh that just that vibe. I don't know what it is, dude. I [ __ ] love them, man. — Why do you love uh off-road ones? — I don't know. — Is there a dirt track where you could take a Porsche off-road car to? — Oh, I'm sure. Where? — I bet especially in California, like Johnson Valley and all that [ __ ] Oh, yeah. Yeah. But out here there's places out here people have been hitting me up about. — Right. But when you take when you go off-roading generally, you're going off-roading with a truck where you can bounce over rocks and [ __ ] You can't really do that in an off-road Porsche. That's like more for those crazy mountain roads that are in the dirt. Yeah, that's a Jakar, right? — Russell built fab. — Oo, that's dope looking, — dude. Some dad had one at the base. — That's a 93. — Yeah. — Oh, wow. So, they take a 993 and Ooh, that's pretty. It's my favorite thing in the world. — I don't know why. — Look at the wheel wells. That's crazy. — Wow. — Perfect daily driver, too. You don't have to worry about — I have a [ __ ] problem with those extra front headlights. They stick on the hood. I do not like them. — I think it [ __ ] up the lines of the car. — Agree. You could cuz you could put those on that front there. — Just take them off night in the dark. Shut the [ __ ] up, [ __ ] — Like you ain't really off-road. I mean, you're off-roading, but you're not in the woods. — Oh, don't get twisted. — At night time like all my trucks. I have that Ram 2500 AV. That thing's never seen the dirt, — right? But that's different. the truck that looks fine with the extra lights on it and [ __ ] Porsche, — I agree. — I think it's like whenever I see those old 911s, like the 1972s, and they have those extra headlights on the hood, I'm like, "Ew, — what are you doing? You're ruining the lines of one of the most beautiful creations. " — It's like a bat set of fake tits. You're like, "What are you doing? " — No, it's like extra fake tits. Like you've got two fake tits on your [ __ ] Yeah. — You got some [ __ ] collarbone tits. Like get those out of there. They don't belong there. More is not always better. And the shape of a Porsche, especially those long nose Porsches. Oh, it's so beautiful. And when you have dumbass [ __ ] headlights on the hood, like get not meant to be. — Yeah. Get out of here. — Yeah. I like different [ __ ] I don't like I agree those headlights do [ __ ] up the lines, but like uh the other thing I'm just into different [ __ ] Like I like when they swap the LS's in the Porsches, too. — Oh yeah, that's dope. Yeah, just the sound that chop. — Yeah. I don't know. It's [ __ ] like that, man. — I like those. A lot of people think that's heretics. That's like, "Oh my god, what you should be going to jail for that water cooled LS engine in a Porsche. "

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— Bro, this guy's like he he's the head guy for Porsche driving. He's driving me around. And I go, "Man, you ever driven one of those LS Porsches? " And he was like, "What the [ __ ] did you say? " And I'm like, "You don't get down with those? " He's like, "Fuck no. " I'm like, "Yeah, those are gay. So gay. — No, they're awesome. — Yeah, I just like different [ __ ] man. — Yeah, Rutled Wood had one of those. He had um one of those. Um what are what's the [ __ ] Japanese cat that does the Y bodies? — Oh, I know you're talking about I saw — RWB. Yes. — Yeah. — He had one of those with an LS in it. — It's pretty sick. — And there's companies that do that. — Yeah, they're sick. And it sounds incredible. It sounds like an American muscle car, but yet it's in a car that's like 2,000 lb, — dude. And all I do is search Facebook marketplace for RS swap Porsches. God, you can get some good deals cuz no one really wants them. — Isn't that crazy? Cuz everybody wants the air cooled cuz the air cooled has that raspy. — They are the best. It feels great. — It's a wild sound. That air cooled sound is a wild sound. — As I'm getting older, too, it's like uh you know, I've had trucks with 1400 horsepower. private cars with,00 horsepower. And then if you just get an old school Porsche air cooled with 250 horsepower manual fun, — it's all you need, dude. — They're so fun. — As you get older, you're like, "Oh, why am I chasing this [ __ ] horsepower? " — Yeah, because it's just about driving enjoyment. It's not about You're not racing it. — No. — You know, you're not on a track. — Oh, dude. I knew I had issues when I was driving my kid to his [ __ ] baseball game and my car was running hot. my TRX 1400 horsepower. It was running hot. I converted to twin turbo Hellcat engine. It's like 1400. It's running on E85 fuel. There's no E85 out there. I'm in the middle of [ __ ] like dripping springs. I had to pull over on the side of the road cuz it's the engine was smoking. And I just went, "What the [ __ ] am I doing, man? Who am I doing this for? It's not like I'm taking it to the track. " — Well, a Hennessy has a 1000 and you can drive it everywhere. — Yeah, that's probably the way to do it. — Hennessy TRX or Hennessy Raptor. I almost bought one of those. And then I got that AV Ram and I linked with Diesel R. And we're doing a Ry's transmission. I got a freaking stealth bigger turbo on there. Fast fuel system. — Oh, bro. — Let me get my pants off. — Oh yeah. I don't know if you're into that stuff, but I'm picking it up today. It's finally done, dude. — That sounds fun. — Oh, dude. I can't [ __ ] wait. Yeah. Um, so the idea is you're just driving around going to different places, having people do different things with cars. — Yeah. Like — check out what people are doing, different mods they're doing. — Yeah. And it's like that old school like car shows that we grew up on. Like it'll throw up facts about Porsches or about the car. It just pop up with that stuff. And that's like our boys like uh Gordon Ryan was on there with his TRX. He has like 120,000 miles on it. — Really, — dude? That thing so busted up. But he just drives it every day. He off-roads it. He just We go in his car. I'm like, "Dude, I said, you know, Gordon, I'm going to tell you the same thing I tell everybody when I get in the car with him. I know this is for TV. I don't need your show off. Nobody's trying to get hurt. " He's like, "I got you, man. " And was just [ __ ] ripping this thing, dude. I'm like, I flip one of these things, man. It ain't fun, bud. It ain't fun. But it's uh Yeah, just [ __ ] we like, you know? And then someone's like, "You want to do a TV show with them? " I'm like, "Yeah, let's ride, man. " — It's interesting how much that's a male thing. There are women that are into cars, but I don't know any women. I mean, I'm sure they're out there, but I don't know any women that are into cars the way we're into cars. No. Um, some of them, some of them like cars. They're into it. Some, but like for me, it's like that is one of the one things about having some money that is worth it. Like I always tell people, having a nice house is great. It is great. There's definitely nothing wrong with having a nice house, but after a while, it just becomes your house. — Yes. And if you're in a humble house that has a nice kitchen and a big TV and a couch and a nice bed to sleep on, — you're set. — You're kind of set. Like the difference in the way you feel when you're home versus a kn nice house is not much different. — Okay. — The difference in driving a nice car is like you are taking a ride to work. You are at Disneyland. — You would wait in line to get in that car and you're boom and you're [ __ ] shifting your own gears AND WOO. It's fun. — And the [ __ ] you have, dude. I live through you cuz, you know, obviously we're in different tax brackets. You know, I got to do my thing on Facebook Marketplace and [ __ ] I picked up tires the other day. Guy goes, "Holy [ __ ] Brennan Shaw buys tires off Facebook Marketplace. " Go, "Yeah, dude. Who doesn't want a [ __ ] deal, man? Put those in the back for me, dude. " But, uh, yeah, you got one of those Por I think it's your Gunther Porsche. — Yes. — And you took a picture and you're like, "Dude, I'll just sit in my garage and stare at him. " Like, dude, I've never — I do. I stare at it sometimes. I sit in the garage and look at it. — Oh, it's a [ __ ] piece of art, man. — Yeah. All carbon fiber. — Yeah, dude. Some when I see like

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that that type of Porsche like the Gunther work or I'll see a certain car, I'm just like — I can't even describe the It's like [ __ ] dude. — Mhm. — That is so sick. — Yeah. Did you see the Gunther Works made a twin turbo slant nose? — I sent it to you. — Peter Nam sent it to me, too. Bro, the owner of the company sent it to me. — Oh, you know him? — Yeah. — Well, I bought it off him. I bought one off him. Not that. Not the slant nose. — You're dealing with like customer service. I — No. I deal with Peter. He's awesome. But that's it. That car is insane. They raced that one against a GT3 RS and it buried it. — Buried the GT3 RS. Buried it. Yeah. They did uh some rolling race like from 30 miles an hour and literally it just shot ahead like the other car was — 67 horsepower. — It weighs nothing. What does it weigh? Um please search what does the new the slant nose Gunther works weigh? Because they're carbon fiber — 100%. They're carbon fiber. — 2,000 something. — Yeah. I bet it's about 2,400 lb. 27. So, it's close. But the engine's probably super heavy. — Well, I don't know if it's super heavy, but there's a lot of jazz in there. — But what engine are is it the — um I think it's a — 4 liter twin turbo flat 6. — Yeah. And it's air cooled, — which is so nuts. — A 1000 horsepower flat 6 air cooled engine is crazy, — brother. And people, everyone like you talk to anyone like I want,000 horsepower. You think you want a,000 horsepower. Now it's not like your ZRX uh ZR1X, it's not like that. Like if you buy it or like at my Demon 170, if you get the factory from the factory, you're good. When you have a TRX or your Corvette or, you know, I've had other trucks, my Ford Lightning, if you're reaching a 1000 horsepower, buddy, you think you want those problems. You do not, right? — It's a [ __ ] nightmare. And then also — every week I was in the shop calling buddy doing something. I'm like this is exhausting. — Well, this won't be like that. Like the Gunther Works ones are reliable. I've never had — No, those are great. — But the question is does that have any traction control? — Hopefully not. — Like Jamie, could you please look up whether or not these uh new Gunther works Porsches have traction control? — I don't know how they can do that now. Now, I know that there's like a computer thing that you could buy that'll be — Is Gunther's in California? — Where they at? — I believe so. Yeah, 99% sure they — You should connect with him because I'd love to do an episode with him. — A wooden shift knob pays tribute to the Porsche's motorsport carriage. Modern electronics like motorsports grade ABS and traction control. — Oh, okay. Well, that's good. It's nice that it has ABS, too. That's dope. — That's — You're going to need it. You're going, but see if you can find the race between the GT3 RS and the slant nose, bro. It is hilarious. — And the sound it makes is orgasmic. It's — I can't imagine how much that thing is. — Wonderful. Oh, it's got to be a million dollars. — Yeah. — Here's my problem with Porsche is even 20 years ago when I my very first car I bought when I had money I got from podcast. This is 15 years ago. I bought just your base 911. went to the Porsche dealer, bought a base 911. I could afford it. It was, I don't know, 80 grand. Now Porsche has become, it's almost like what Ferrari was 10 years ago where just the base Porsche is so expensive, man. It's pricing out their market. So now it's become and we've been on Porsche for how long? Like we've always talked about Porsches forever. That's our [ __ ] — Watch this. — Oh my god. — It's Top Gear. — Oh, it's Top Gear. Top Gear is great. — Great channel. — Yes. So, these guys, they do a rolling start. I guess they did a rolling start because they didn't want to dump the clutch on this million-dollar car. — Way safer to do it that way. — Watch this. When they get to 30. — And — look at that interior, dude. — Watch this. Going, — bro. It's not even [ __ ] close. It's not even close. That's insane. And the GT3 RS is a fast car. — Fast [ __ ] car. — But this was not his car. Obviously, this is, you know, someone else's car that they're letting him test. — And so, whoever bought that car and spent a million dollars on how much did they cost? — 1. 2. 2 million. — Yeah. That again, that's my only issue with Porsche is because if you want a GT3 RS, they're so expensive, man. It's like — Well, people flip them. A lot of people flipping because they're really hard to get too. — Yeah, it's just a lot of demand for them. — Yeah, it's tough. Where back in the day, you could if even if you're a Porsche, you could start somewhere and you'd be okay. And now it's almost like Ferrari where it's unattainable for a lot of people. — Well, you know what a lot of people are

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doing. — It's $400,000 more. It's 1. 6 million. — That car is 1. 6 is crazy. — Worth every penny. — If you got that loot, um, — please buy it. One of the things that people are doing is taking that lighter weight Porsche 911T, you know, the T, — and they're taking that and juicing it up to like 700 plus horsepower and, you know, putting some mods on it. — Now you're talking my language. — Yeah. Because you can do that for way less than it would cost you to buy a twin turbo and you're getting the same kind of speed, but you're also getting rearwheel drive. — Yep. — And you can get them for pretty I don't want to say cheap, but cheaper. — Cheaper. It's so tough, man, to get some of those. Like the GT3 RS is you got to be allocated or it's like 150 over markup. Like it's tough these days in the Porsche business. They're crushing it. It's good for them. — But again, for like my kids, hopefully they're fortunate enough where they're making good money, but it's going to be really tough to get in Porsche, man. — It's just it's a different that Porsche has become the marquee car when back in the day it wasn't that. It wasn't. — No, you know, it used to be much more affordable. it was the more affordable supercar and a daily driving supercar, but you know the market and it's also things change, right? Because now everything is twin turbo. They're all twin turbo. — Unless you buy a GT3, they're twin turbo. — Yep. Yeah. You know, — I think too um one of the reasons I went away from exotics cuz I mean, you know, I even modded my GT2 RS like I'm an idiot, but it loses value in them. So — when you mod them, it [ __ ] them up and I just can't leave anything alone. So that's why I went so heavy into American [ __ ] because you know the C6s, all all the American stuff you can mod the [ __ ] out of. And there's a market there. You're not losing your ass. And they're cheaper to mod. Like when I would mod a Ferrari, buddy, exhaust, whatever the [ __ ] turbos, es if you want to do a tune, it's a [ __ ] nightmare, man. Nightmare. — Yeah. Well, it's all to me, it's all about enjoyment, right? And so like what do you what are you getting out of it if you're not like racing it and trying to go around corners sideways and [ __ ] correcting and you're not really doing that with most cars. You're just enjoying it when you're driving it. And for me I love the feel of a V8. Like I have uh one of those uh Shelby Super Snakes. — Yeah. — It's a six-speed. — Did you get the Super Snake? — It's hasn't got it yet. I haven't. It's on the way. Wee. [ __ ] I [ __ ] love that car cuz it's a modern muscle car. Driving it is like driving an old school muscle car, but it's all modern and it's perfect. Starts every time. Interior is great. — And it's just the fun of just driving normal speed. Just driving to work normal. Not speeding. Just you feel like you're doing something fun. — And do you get that same excitement in your ZR1X? — No. No, it's not the same. The ZR1X is on another planet. It's uh it's a spaceship. I mean, it's the most capable car I've ever driven by far. Like, when I took the ZR1 around the racetrack, we drove it around Kota, I was like, "This thing is crazy. " — Crazy. — It's so fast and it handles so well and it gives you so much confidence. But it's different when you're not shifting your own gears. You're not using the clutch. It's all about that. The driving experience is about engagement. And if you're not using a manual, you're missing you you're going to have fun. Don't get me wrong. You get a Corvette, you're going to have a lot of fun. It's a great car, but shifting your own, you know, they finally started making a um a gear uh a manual transmission for the C8. — Really? — Yeah. So, it's not — Is the Grand Sport coming in uh manual? — I don't think it's going to be offered by Corvette. I don't know if there are in the future, but you can buy one now. So, see what the company is that does that, but it's a famous transmission company that's making a C8 manual transmission. And everybody saw that like, oh. — Cuz that's the only knock I've heard on like actual car guys with ZR1X. They go fast as [ __ ] It's great. — But it's kind of doing it for you. Like the drive is different. Like it's so um it's a spaceship. — It's spaceship. You're Luke Skywalker. — Does not offer a manual trans. Tremk. Okay. Tremik has developed a six-speed manual that fits a C8. GM considers it not real for production. What does that mean? — But Tremik makes it. — But they make it. — Are they selling it? Is TMIC not selling it or did they make it just for funsies? — I have no idea. — Because Tremik made uh the transmission on my super they make the best transmissions. Tremik's new six-speed manual transactional opens the door from manual swap vets and other creations. So they can do it. — This is what I would do. What I would do is get a Z06 and put a [ __ ] manual in it. Now we're cooking. — Let's go. — Let's [ __ ] go. — Now you have literally the ultimate Corvette. — I get that Z06 and that orange.

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— There's no word yet on price, timeline, or who's going to cook up the software to tell the Corvette to cooperate with a three- pedal transmission. That is the problem cuz you're going to have to — and the ECU. That's a big problem. — Yeah. — Like the biggest problem I've had is with the ECU. People don't realize, you know, the guys who do all the mods they do, but it's like I got a 2024 Ram and right away I'm like, "All right, what mods am I going to do? " I'm talking to Ry's Transmission Banks. I'm talking to my boys at Diesel R and they're like, "You got a 2024? " I'm like, "Yeah, what's up? " Low miles, man. Like, I [ __ ] up. I'm like, "Why? " Like, because 2024 and up, there's no way to unlock that ECU. like you have we have to find an ECU from a 2022 or earlier. — And I'm like, okay, those can't be expensive. Oh, they're blood diamonds because every because everybody wants that. You're looking at seven grand for an unlocked ECU. — And that's just that's not adding any power. That's just to get it so you can add the power. — Oh my god, that's crazy. — And then diesel R, they were like, "Dude, we have one. " I'm like, "No [ __ ] way. " Well, how about this new law that they just passed where your car is going to monitor you and then they're going to have a kill switch in your car so to keep people from drinking and driving or if maybe they don't like what Brendan Shaw posted on Twitter and just [ __ ] shut your car down. I think that's um — even more reason to buy old [ __ ] — Yeah, a lot of um put that please into perplexity and ask them when this law is being passed and what the law entails because I've been hearing a lot of different versions of it. I want to know what these pass for California first. — Well, it's passed nationwide and Thomas Massie voted against it and uh I think Federman might have voted against it too. I'm not sure. Uh real federal mandate tied to 2027 model year cars. It's about impaired driving detection. Yeah, but this is how it starts. The problem is if it has a kill switch. Ask If that's part of it, — explain it. I mean, it probably is going to be in here if it — Right. Okay. Why people call it a kill switch? Because the system may be able to prevent the engine from starting or shut down performance if it decides you're impaired. So, that's a kill switch. So, that is great if you're preventing someone from drinking and driving. Correct. — That is not great if you are Nick Fuentes and you're in your car and you're, you know, — but that's the Trojan horse. Like they get you in with that. It's for safety. — That's the thing. — May is a key word in there. — Maybe able. Well, the thing about that is I think they already have that with the Corvette. I think with OnStar, if someone steals your car, — correct, they can shut it down, — right? So — that's the security. If you have a Corvette and Brendan Chab is running from the law and you're trying to get to Canada, — but can't they do that with your Teslas? Uh, that's pro. I mean, it's a computer. — Of course, they probably can do that. I'm really bummed out that Tesla canled the Model S. Jamie and I were just talking about it before the show. — Oh, they could all go away and I wouldn't give two [ __ ] I know it's your boy, but I just don't care. I listen. I drive it all the time. I love it. with all the cars you have. — It's the one thing I'm like, — I love it. Listen, I love — V8. Look, I drove my Raptor here. — You know, — Raptor's badass. — A fanboy would say that it's going to be replaced by that Roadster that they haven't shown yet. So, — yeah, but the Roadster is a two-seater. My car is a fourseater, four-door car that goes 0 to 60 in under two seconds. — But, but why would they get rid of it? — I've never had four people in my car. — You never? haven't? But like, so like the other day I had to pick up my daughter because she was being driven and the car they were driving got a flat and I was on my way home at the exact same time and I picked her up and her friends. — Yeah. Dope. — So I had three friends in the back seat, one in the front. — Yeah. I got everybody in my car, no problem. I like having a four-door. I have a family. I know you're a single guy. Like for you, a roadster would be fine. — That's just a small little car anyway. I like the X is pretty dope, too. Oh, they also cancelled the ax. — I know the ax is dope. Tiffany Hattish one had one and she showed me that it could dance in the parking lot. Seen that video. I was like, "This is crazy. " — I only do four. I don't have anything twodoor anymore cuz kiddos. — Like I just create try to create the most badass dad whip I can. Yeah. — And has to have four doors. — Well, I mean I have twodoor cars, but I always have to have a sedan. I like a sedan. — Your kids are older, though, too. If I didn't have a Tesla and I have a sedan, what I would get is the Cadillac. The CT5V Black Wing. Let's preach. And you can get a manual. — You can get the new one. The F1 is only in manual. It's the highest horsepower. 685. I don't know why I couldn't say that word. 685 horse. I know you do. We both suffer from marble mouth

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— brother. — 685 horsepower and it's only manual. — But take my [ __ ] money. — I want an automatic. So, if it's at — Yeah, manuals sounds fun, but if you're driving it all the time, especially where, you know, if you're living in LA. — Yeah, depending on where you're living. — Yeah, — Jamie, that could be you, buddy. — Like, we were just in New Jersey, bro. That's you, Jamie. — I'm not saying it's a bad car, but I'm just like, it's uh I'm going to drive it 10 miles a day. — It does. Yeah, — it's awesome. 10 miles, — dude. The feeling in that car with the torque and the sound of the engine. — Can't go anywhere on 30 traffic. Give me some [ __ ] volume and let's hear the one in this car. — Yeah. Well, Jamie's not really a car guy. — Very — drive it to the golf course. But like — that's once a week. The sound. Look at that [ __ ] with all the carbon around it. Let me hear it drive. Drive it, [ __ ] Let's go. — Oh, why would they do this to me? Why would you have a video of this AND NOT HAVE YEAH. YOU WANT TO SELL CARS or not for me, please? — Um, here it is. — Just click that, though. That's the black. — Oh, there we go. — Oh, my dick just got hard. — And we can spice that up, Jamie. You sent it to me for a day, Bubba. — That's fine. The way it comes from the factory is fine. — I got muff thing. — I know you can get it really loud, but the thing is just that alone. There we go. Come on, dog. Yeah. — All right. I mean, IT'S NOT BAD. — YEAH. — HE'S IN. — YES. — DUDE, you don't understand. — Oh, cam out, baby. — I feel Oh, that's a cammed up one. That one's nuts. — Nuts. Oh, there's a lot of mods. Dudes jack those up above thousand all the time. — Oh, it's going to get robbed out here then. — No. Come on. Where's — Where you parking? You going to the ghetto to buy crack? — I don't drive anywhere. So — where's he going? Come on. Where's he going? He's buying crack. You live in a nice place. — Are you buying crack? — You got covered parking. You don't need it, but it's fun. — I just think of gone in 60 seconds. When you've got a dope car and people know you're seen driving that dope car. They're going to follow you in that dope with uh our friend. He got followed. — What's wrong with you two? — Yeah, shit's going to happen. I don't got to have [ __ ] dope Tesla. He's in Dallas buying tacos at 3 in the morning. — A million Teslas all over the place. — And he's got a Ferrari. — I drive is different than a Cadillac. — I've never had Have you had any issues? I've never especially out here. — No, you can catch an issue every now and then, but the thing about Texas is everybody's armed. Like you can't just roll up on someone and try to take their car. You're risking your [ __ ] life. — All right. It happened on Fifth Street, a block away from the club not too long ago. — Yeah. On right in front of Eddie. People get carjacked in every city. That's a fact. That's not where I live. I don't like having targets. — Not where I live. Come on to this. Come on over to the BBS, dude. — So, you think if you have like one of them Cybertruck? So, supposedly Cybertruck is coming out with an SUV, — maybe. Yeah. I don't know. Could be cool. — Elon won't tell me. He won't tell me [ __ ] He knows tell you. I got a big [ __ ] mouth. — Online people have showed things, but like we don't really know. — What have they showed? — Uh potential like it looks a little bit like the mix between an X and a Cyber Truck. See, that would be a smart move if for them to make a Cyber Truck that's an SUV. It's a smart move because you already have the shape just instead of having the pickup truck part where no one's using. — Yeah. Extend the seats. — Yeah. Have the seats back more and you could even shorten the wheelbase a little bit and make it like, you know, like one of them smaller Cadillac SUVs. — You could or you could just say, "Fuck all that noise. " And get a Hellcat Durango cuz Stalantis does Hellcat's back, baby. — Those are pretty dope. Hellcat Durango. The — Godfather of the Hellcat. Tim is back running [ __ ] Dodge. — Yes. Thank God. — Thank [ __ ] God. Dodge is crushing it. — They got silly with that electric thing. — Some French guy running it. He killed Yeah. He killed all — America. — Facts. — That's what it was. Boom. — He wanted to destroy America. — Facts. Poton to beat Zero. — It was like the most iconic American like V8 powered cars were Dodge. Dodge Viper. Well, that's a V10. Dodge Viper. You had uh but just big engines, right? You had, you know, gasoline engines. You had, of course, the Challenger, Challenger Hellcat, Hellcat Redeye. — They crushed it. — Crushed it. Are they going to discontinue the Challenger? — No, they're coming out with a gas Challenger. So, they [ __ ] up and came out with a Challenger all electric and it — a Charger. Wasn't a Charger — and a Challenger, too. They did both, right? — You can't change They're coming out with a Charger that's uh gas powered. Yeah, the Charge is dope. I've seen some reviews of it. It's dope. And it's fast. Fast as [ __ ] — Here.

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— Now we're talking, Jamie. What do you think of that? — SUV. — Here we go. It's a straight. — Look at that, Jamie. Here you go. Clubs fit in there easily. — Yeah. Now we're talking. — The Durango Cap engine. That's what you need, Jamie. You need a goddamn V8. Like a [ __ ] You're going to come in here with a [ __ ] hairy chest. Yeah, I do. — Goddamn American. — Yeah, — that's what you need. That's it. Forget the Cadillac. We're on to this now. — We're on to this. That's what you need. — I wasn't This is also People love these. This is a robbery car. The Trackhawk. That's why I'm off of that. — Trackhawks are great, dude. — There's not that many of them. Yeah. And people are after them. — How about you get a Hennessy and tell them to leave the badges off? — Hennessies are so [ __ ] — Just have Hennessy do and leave the badges off, — bro. Did you — So it just looks like a regular one. A sleeper. — I'd just be worried the whole time. Oh my god. What world are you living in, dude? Did you see Hennessy did a superduty? — Hennessy finally did a Ford Superduty. [ __ ] I love it. — Hennessy does dope [ __ ] dude. They do dope Mustangs. They do dope Cadillacs. They take the Blackwing and [ __ ] — See, that that's why with uh with Tuby, it was like, let's see how these four episodes go. They do good. — Do you know John? — Uh me and him had a conversation. — You should do a show with him. He's — I want to I want to go to Gunther. — Yeah, — but John's great. He's up the [ __ ] road. — He's great. I can connect you with him. He's a good dude. He's a friend of mine. — Me and him had a combo because when I was building my Raptor to get to 1400 horsepower, I called him. — Well, I'll hook you up with Gunther, too. They're great. He's Peter's very cool, too. — Durango smokes his Trackhawk. — Yeah, dude. — Oh, the Durango with the Hellcat. — Start a little faster if he smokes them. — And that's probably not a Hennessy one. — Well, those it doesn't matter. I mean, they put a Hellcat in one of those [ __ ] things, you're dealing with insane horsepower. It's so much horsepower. — They're awesome, Jamie. And the red interior. It's [ __ ] awesome, — bro. We're sales people. We'll We're selling Dodge. — That actually might have been the Trackhawk on the right. — Whichever one it was. — Either way, pick your [ __ ] get one. — I would 100% drive one of those. 100%. I might get one, too, if you get one. — [ __ ] Recharge it. — Let's go. Charge it. How dare you? You son of a [ __ ] You know what, man? He's not wrong though with the way gas prices are. I talked to Tim Dylan today. He was I was on the phone with him when I came in the studio. He told me that gas is $7. 90 a gallon in LA right now. — And that's down from what it was a I was out there a month shooting a commercial and it was up to $8. 40 something. — Here's what I don't understand. Are we getting oil from Iran? — No. That's what — maybe 3 or 4% was from. — So are they just [ __ ] us in the ass? — Yeah. They just know, oh, Americans know if we go to war, we can increase the gas price, so we all just go along with it. — Is that real? Or is it global prices went up because some of the gas can't get to where it needs to go, and so it they need to make that money, so they just [ __ ] you. — Isn't it funny? Like they're like, we're going to make money no matter what. The American people are going to lose money so we make the same amount of money. [ __ ] you. You need oil. — But my whole thing is even like when you know when we go to war, people like, "Yeah, they're just doing it for money. " It's like, how much [ __ ] money do they need? They're all rich anyway. — American gas prices are rising mainly because crude oil has become more expensive due to the war with Iran and disruptions in global oil supply, plus normal seasons and cost factors in refining, distribution, and taxes. Biggest driver crude oil in the Iran war. But what if we got all our oil from America, — which we can do? — Well, if we did that, why would oil go up? — Cuz look, American prices are tied to global oil market. — Just start selling it. That's stupid. — Ah, you the market besides — they're a bunch of crooks. We should have a national oil company — and only sell in America. Keep it inhouse. So no matter what — right there, — foul [ __ ] we do. — Companies can still sell wherever they want. — Yeah. Even though US is the world's largest oil producer, companies can sell oil on the global market to whoever pays the highest price. And he [ __ ] us. — High world prices still translate into high domestic gas prices. Hey, Mr. President, please fix that. — [ __ ] tax him. — I don't know if he can do that. They'll kill him. — They try to kill him three times already. You try to do You try to [ __ ] with that oil money. All a sudden, President J. D is crying on TV. I'm going to miss — Donald. He was a great mentor to me. And though I didn't always agree with everything he said — and I wish he didn't post that picture of him as Jesus, I What the [ __ ] are you doing? Hey, you know what's crazy to me is there's been like three legit assassination attempts and it's in the news 2, three days and we're just like, "Yeah, it's crazy. " And we move on. — Well, there was another one that barely made the news where a guy showed up and tried to attack JD. — You remember that guy? No. — Yeah. See, — I know this guy showed up. I think it was at the White House. I think some guy showed up at the white he you see this

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guy who just got killed in or got shot in Cambridge. So this guy — he uh had a shootout with the cops three years ago went to jail for three years got out and was walking down the street in Cambridge just unloading his gun on pass. — Yeah. Just shooting random people on the street. This guy had gotten a shootout with the cops and only did three years. That's insane, dude. — He got a shootout with the cops. I think 20 bullets were exchanged and he only did three years. — Bro, here's the other problem is I saw they took a again, whoever is doing these polls, you got to be an idiot to get stopped on the streets. — This is wild. — He's just walking on the street shooting at cars. Bro, by the way, I'm running that guy over. — Especially if I'm in my Toyota, my Land Cruiser, where I know it's not going to mess up my car. — That's insane. Meanwhile, if I was in Cambridge, though, I'd probably go to jail for life. — 100%. You're [ __ ] — Yeah. — For defending the public. — But I saw a survey said one in four Americans think the assassination attempts on the president are fake. — I wonder what percentage think the world's flat. One in four. — Yeah. The people that thought that the Butler, Pennsylvania one was staged anything about guns. That's a fact. I don't know anybody who knows anything about guns that thinks that the president would let some guy nick his ear with a bullet. — So dumb. — That is And the guy behind him, the firefighter who lost his life, that guy got shot by a bullet that was intended for Trump. And then there's a photo of a bullet whizzing by his face. Anybody that thinks that staged is out of their [ __ ] mind. — Or the guy that the correspondence dinner who rushed in. — Yeah. — They think that's fake. It's like, hold on. So, you think this guy who's a teacher, educated, clearly kind of had his [ __ ] together, threw away his life? — Well, Tim Burett, who I had on the podcast, congressman, yeah, — he thinks that guy was like some sort of an MK Ultra type deal. And he says he thinks they still do that. He thinks someone's still doing that. — I've always thought that. I'm not trying to steal. I'm sure he has way better points than me, but if they did MK Ultra all those years ago, when you go through the list of Charles Manson, the Uni Bomber, you think it stopped, — right? And you don't think they've gotten better with it? — Exactly. — So, you just think they're like, "Okay, the public knows we're going to shut this down. " No, dude. — Yeah. — They just they expand on it gets better and better. — For sure. They're still doing that. And that could have been Thomas Krooks, too. The guy who tried to shoot Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania. That one was weird as [ __ ] That one's so weird because that guy's uh house was professionally scrubbed. He didn't even have silverware there. He had no online activity. He had no like social media, Black Rockck ties. — Have you heard anything about him? — Nope. Gone. — How weird is that dude? — Vanished. Like kind of — What about the Charlie Kirk guy? What about the guy who killed Charlie? — We haven't heard one interview with him. — Is that not weird, dude? — It's super weird. Nearly onethird of Americans, 30% believe that at least one of the three attempts on Donald's life over the last two years were staged. Wow. — Attempted assassination. A majority of Americans said either that it was staged or that were they were not sure. 54% said they either thought it was staged or not sure. — And that's the problem. — Only 38% of Americans believe all three assassination attempts were authentic. This is Tik Tok. It's [ __ ] ruined. That's the [ __ ] problem. — Rotten their [ __ ] brains out from inside their heads. — I know. It's not good, dude. — Meanwhile, you go on Chinese Tik Tok, it's all like traditional dance and martial arts, science projects. Yeah. It shuts down for kids after 10 p. m. Yeah. — And like Americans have fun. — Yeah. They're doing such a great job. And then they sold it, right? So they sold it to that American company and they're just going to continue doing what the Chinese did and make the most amount of money, which is rotten people's brains out. — Don't give a [ __ ] Wouldn't it be dope if this American company that bought it said, "Hey, there's clearly a problem with how things are emphasized and what your algorithm shows you and what we're going to do is promote like exceptional people doing exceptional things. " — Don't you think they would get more users? Cuz as a dad, I'd be like, "Okay, you guys can have TikTok. They there's some rules there. They it's an educational thing. " Now, not a [ __ ] chance, dude. — No, it wouldn't get more. It would uh everyone would go right over to Instagram, which is like Instagram's all assassinated. — What if they did across the board? — You would have to have no one cross that picket line and they all would because people are addicted to watching [ __ ] up street fights and crazy things now. Like my algorithm is all like people fighting in parking lots and there's so much of that, — man. My mine's just trucks, cars, and [ __ ] fights — on Instagram. — Yeah. So my problem is me and Sigura every day sending each other the worst thing what we find online. — I don't want to start my day like that. I don't. — And I don't either.

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— I don't either. But it's too late. But that's the only time I'm going to Instagram now. The only time. And then I'll check my You've kind of gotten off of it, right? — Yeah. This is so much better. Feel so much better. I go in occasionally and check Twitter to see what the news is, like what's trending, what's — But you're not like reading the comments and all and I don't even go into the news feed because I used to go into newsfeed every I find things about me all the time. Like I don't want to hear what a douchebag I am. — Like come on. I'm not here for that. — I know it sucks. — But it's so I can't avoid people getting mad at me or even saying nice things about me. I don't want to read that. No. I think what's better is uh I go to the trending stuff and find out what the news is. So then I'll click on like what the [ __ ] is going on and I'll check that out. Like that's how I found out about this guy with the gun — and you feel so much better, right? — Way better. But I I'm also more often than not now not going there for my news and I've kind of curated my Google news feed — smart — to be much more interest like I get more stories and it'll show me stories from X. Yeah. So then I can decide whether or not I want to actually open up X to read the story. — And did you stop drinking too? — I did and then I went back. I'm back. — How how back are you? — Not back crazy, but I'll have a couple of drinks every now and then. I haven't gotten drunk since I've been back. I've been over two years now. — That's nice. — Almost three. — Feel good. — Feel great. Never been in better shape. — Yeah, it's — I feel [ __ ] awesome. — It's definitely better for you. But I do like a glass of wine or two with dinner and I do like a drink or two with the boys when we're at the club every now and then. But I just I was doing it too much. Me too. — And then I recognized and so I stopped. — Yeah. Just it wasn't benefiting me. And then also, you know, I have addictive personality. Like if I do something, I got to be all in. Like on cars, like literally one day I woke up, I'm like, I don't need 11 cars. And half of them are trucks and they're all the same, — you know? It's just like when I get into something, I get so into it now. But I'm getting as I'm getting older, I'm getting better at checking myself. — Good. It's good. Getting better at um that is very important to managing your life. It's really important. — It's growing up. — Well, it's also just realizing that there's some addictions that are just not beneficial at all and then other ones that are really beneficial. So, just get addicted to doing things that are good for you. — Yeah. Facts. — You know, but that's the problem is that a lot of people can't regulate their addictions well. They're just not good at it. And so they just get caught up in, you know, it could be anything. — Oh, you know. — Yeah. To preach. That's me. — Yeah. — But it's also that same thing is what causes people to get good at stuff. — Correct. — Which is weird, you know? Like if you show me a dude who can't get addicted to anything. Like not there's not one thing that is taking up too much of your time. I probably can't hang out with. — Correct. And it's not good. — Yeah. Cuz that same obsession is what led me got me to the UFC or football. — Exactly. like being allin on something I think is uh where that's where obsession can lead. The scary one for me I think not for me personally but when I see it is gambling. scary because I see people that are really rich, not just Dana, but other people that I know that are really rich that gamble big numbers and it freaks me out like big poker games and crazy amounts of money they gamble and stuff and I was like I don't like that. — But you get your rocks off in other ways. I think for those like super rich people like that's kind of like they can buy any car, house or go on any trip in order to get their rocks off. That's how they do it. — Yeah, but it has to be a big number for them to feel it. — So, the juice has to be so high. — If they bet 100 bucks on something, they don't even know that doesn't mean they might not even cash that ticket like they don't feel it. — You know how you and I are similar with obsession. Do you do your kiddos have that? Do you see it in — Oh, yeah. Super driven, but it's very positive. — Kids imitate the atmosphere that they grow up in. And if your parents have a hard work ethic and they're disciplined and they're kind, generally speaking, that's how your kids come out. Yeah. I think that when I say shitty kids, I generally genuinely think that it's at least part of it is from the parents. — Dude, I coach my son's uh baseball and football teams. The crazy parents I deal with. — Oh yeah, — buddy. — Dude, — and I it for the and I try to talk to the dads because most of them respect me. So I'll go, "Hey, can I give you some advice, man? You got to back off, dude. " — But they can't. — They can't. It's that they you have to change who they are. And I tell him, I'm like, uh, I'm trying to help you out here. You're you love baseball, whatever. You love football. Your son has told me he wants to quit. Now, the reason he wants to quit is because you've made it not fun, — right? — He used to love this game. When I first got here, the nothing he loved more than football. Now, he wants to quit because you've made it a job for him. — You [ __ ] up, dude. And who's it going to affect? A, it's going to suck for him because he likes football. You're not gonna be able to watch your kid play football, dude. — Because you decide to make it not fun.

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— That you're gonna [ __ ] up your relationship with your kid. — Facts. — I don't tr I don't force my kids into doing other than they have to go to school. I don't force my kids into doing anything they don't want to do. And if they're not interested in it, you don't have to do it. But find something you are interested in. — That's my thing. Whatever you're into, let's ride. I don't give a [ __ ] what just so happens it's baseball, football. Cool. Let's ride, man. have a great personality for that and that you're very encouraging your kids, but you're not it's just it's not you thinking that like your self-worth is not tied up to your kids' performance. You just want your kids to have fun. — Yep. — The problem is with some people their kid is almost like their racehorse or something. You know what I mean? Like it's like their it's their whole personality gets wrapped around their kid being an elite athlete, — brother. And now it's worse because especially on base, right? It's like uh it's a business now. It's over a billion dollar business. So now it's like there's these travel ball. When I was a kid, you have to be really [ __ ] good. Well, now every parent wants to say their kids travel ball. So there's the majors and there's two teams at the majors. There's three AAA, three double A, three single A. — I just want my I don't need the best 10-year-old. I just want them playing. So I don't give a He made the majors team. I don't give a [ __ ] It's majors, AAA, Wreck. We're playing wherever. — Have fun. have fun and get — apply yourself to something — and apply yourself and I don't give a [ __ ] whether what level we're at. We'll play it all. And some of the parents I'll come back from a tournament like gh you played double A. I'm like yeah it's baseball man. What you think he can only play majors? So what I can sit around the cool the water cooler and brag to you guys? I don't know. — Isn't it crazy that people like talk down about a kid who's not playing as good as other kids? — Oh it's wild. Like what do you but you know that's the it's like stage moms you know there's a thing like that with — actor to your point their identity is tied up in that but they what they don't realize that they're [ __ ] it all up. — Oh yeah. — It's all going to get [ __ ] up. — I've seen that with a lot of young uh actors where their parents were like super involved in their career and then the kid just did not want to do it anymore. And generally like I've seen it a few times and one of them that I know really well where the parents stole money from the kid. — [ __ ] dude. — Yeah. They stole like $6 million. I'll tell you who it is after the show. — That's terrible. — Oh, it's awful. It's like devastated him to find out. — But it's like that's what they're doing. They're using the kid as a piggy bank. They quit working. They relied entirely on their kid and the kid's acting. And — the pressure on the kid. — Oh, I got to afford all this so we can [ __ ] live. And I'm nine. — Not only that, but then you know the kid starts feeling like, "Hey, this is my [ __ ] money. I'm [ __ ] tell I can't have cereal. Go [ __ ] yourself. — He's the boss. — Yeah. I mean, he had problems with it, too. They all have problems with it. And then on top of that, it's just super unhealthy for your kid to get famous when they're 10. — Horrible. — Also for pretending. — Horrible. — Get famous for pretending. That's what — How's that going to affect your personality, dude? — Yeah. — Well, there's a lot of parents out there, man, that just um they don't understand you're developing a human being. And one of the reasons they don't understand is they're not developed well. Correct. They're [ __ ] nuts. Or it the biggest problem is usually the parents who never played, — right? — And they like, man, they'll see just a s glimpse that their son has some talent and then it's they're the worst. — Did your kid into cars? — Yeah, big time. — Oh, that's nice. — Big time. — You got to teach them how to drive so they don't do something stupid when they get old. — That's what I tell them all the time. All the [ __ ] time. — Yeah. Don't do it. — Oh, no. They're going to learn how to drive a manual. It's the easiest way to your car. Jamie, you want to make sure your car doesn't get stolen? Buy a manual. The criminals these days don't have to drive one. You want to drive one for sure. — Oh, he's going to burn that clutch. Look at him. — I haven't done it in a long time. — You could figure it out though on a black do right now. — Yeah, especially if you're only driving 10 miles a day. Perfect candidate. — Just I just don't want to. — Uh it's disappointing. — Yeah. No, my kids know their [ __ ] Like I mean — there's other there's so many other cars in the world. It doesn't have to be that one. — What do you like? — I don't I'm not driving anywhere. I know you like tracks. Okay. Okay. But let's just put all that aside. What cars do you look at, Oo, I like that. Or do you look at a car that you like and go, "That's a target. " — No, it's a If it's one I like, it's it ends up honestly being like uh like an X6, somewhere in that range. X5, X6, AM GLE. — Okay. Now we're talking. I don't know. Somewhere in there. Those are — I tell you what, whoever made the new grills on the BMW should be dick slap — into the hospital. Like what the [ __ ] did you do to one of the most iconic grills in the like the M4s? Like — Yeah. — What did you do? It's they they're just trying to switch it up, you know, and they miss. — But they [ __ ] let that go through.

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Who that? — The only one that looks good or looks decent is the 7 series. There's something about the proportions of the 7 series with that big grill. It doesn't bother me. — The M2 is [ __ ] tasty, too, though. — Okay, that's dope. — Those things can cook. — They didn't get it goofy with the grill. — Come [ __ ] on with that. — They've sort of fixed it as time's gone by, but it's still got a big gap like that. — That's Yeah, I don't like it. The earlier ones were the grossest ones. Like, but look at that right there. Where the lower I'm sorry, the that one's good, but the left one. The white one. — The white one to Yeah, that's it. Look at that's perfect. — That's pretty. — That's perfect. — Do you still have the M5? — Uh, no. But I do have uh the E46 M3. — Oh, yeah. Those are cool. — The 2005. That was [ __ ] awesome. — That one's [ __ ] great. That is literally a perfect car. That's a great car. Like that one. That one's gross. That grill, the lower right one, the bronze color one. — Yeah, my brother has that new M2 manual and that thing [ __ ] — M2s are amazing. Those are amazing. BMW, to their credit, is still making manual transmissions, which — it's a little better. — Do they make a manual in the M5? They don't, right? — Uh, I don't think so. — I think the M5 is only Does it make a manual? The M5s are so heavy now. That's their issue. — Yeah, it's like manual's not the first thing coming up. — Yeah. I don't think they make it a manual transmission anymore. See if it says manual transmission. — That one's automatic. That's real. — Yeah, I think they make the M4 manual. — Yeah. Oh, six-speed, but that's the E60 V10. That's a old one. Yep, — those are dope. — The V10s are cool. — V10s sound amazing. They sound amazing. My uh E46 is not that fast. — There it is. That's old. Yeah. — Yeah. So, the last those are the last ones they made in the manual. But my uh E46 is small. — It's that's what you want. — Doesn't weigh a lot. It handles really good. It's got hydraulic steering, manual transmission, — and you know, it's a DIN, so it has a supercharger on it. — So, it's a little faster. So, it's like 400 something horsepower, but — monster, — dude. It's just fun. It just you feel it while you're driving it. And they look [ __ ] — Something weird in I was trying to track that said that they got two of them that were — Unless there's only two vehicles here. — Was it the same? — Might be. It might be just not an American thing. Does that make — No, those are old. — No, I know. I'll tell you what I saw. Uh — oh, that they So, put in 2026 BMW M5 manual. — I just saw that we got two versions of the BMW M5 with a manual that the rest of the world missed out on. That's what I saw and was clicking on. — When does that though? If you click on it, I think — 2025, — right? But I think they're talking about old cars. I think they're doing a history of BMW because this has two versions. They're talking about older cars. — BMW still has great interiors, too. Oh, yeah. — Some manufacturers still [ __ ] do it right. — BMW does it right. They're really good. It's a solid car. And the M the new M5, even if it isn't a manual, is a [ __ ] screamer of a car. — They're monsters. — Yeah. But they have to make them hybrids now. — I know. Oh, it's — because of all the [ __ ] all the environmental — Trump got rid of the engines the engine start. You know how when you stop? — Oh, yeah. — You got rid of that. — That's good. That's I don't like that. — Drives me nuts. — And I don't like that on some cars I have to press the don't do that at every red light. Don't do that. — [ __ ] hate it. Don't do that. Hate it. Drives me [ __ ] — stupid. You're not saving anything. All you're doing is cooking my starter. — Yeah, — cuz the starter's got to start. — How crazy is Trump was like, I'm getting rid of that. So annoying. parking next to one of these. — Is that a Maserati? — Yeah, it's sick. — Boy, those are cool in person. They're really nice. — Those are dope. — That's a beautiful car. Why don't you get one of them, Jamie? — Well, — what's up? — I don't know. He's worried about the attention. — I just had a tire problem for I didn't go that far. Those Model S tires just like fell apart after 10,000 miles. — Just know that weird maintenance things. — The way your tires fell apart was weird. It didn't make any sense cuz he said he had a flat tire and then he got to look at it and it was like there's the wires around. He'd worn down the tread at 10,000 miles. — Well, that's the problem with electric cars cuz they're so heavy. So, you're going through tires faster. — But I didn't think it would be that fast. 10,000 miles. Jesus Christ. — Jimmy might be driving like a maniac though. — [ __ ] nutty. I bet he is. I bet it's going sideways. — The wire, dude. You know how ratchet you got to be to wear down to the wire? — I think it's the weight. — Yeah, it's the weight — cuz we looked it up and it was like 15,000 mi. So he's just a little bit more lead foot. — Little more lead foot. Lead foot Jamie. Just a sign to get out of the lead. — As he gets older, we're talking lead foot Jamie. — These are dope. Austin Martins are dope. — [ __ ] yeah. Now we're talking. — Come on. I don't know how. I'm just — You know some good [ __ ] dude. — I just don't like Blackwing Cadillac. — Okay. You don't like Cadillac? Okay.

### [2:40:00](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WVv39tLlzg&t=9600s) Segment 33 (160:00 - 161:00)

Okay. — [ __ ] awesome. It's fine. Everybody has different tastes. That's fine. As long as you like that. You like something, — dude. I'll go on Facebook Marketplace for you. We'll get you Trackhawks. We'll get you Aston Martin. — He's got to get something. We got to get him something fun. — Let's let us know the budget, dude. — He seems a little hesitant, — but he does seem open to it. — Yeah. — Well, you drove race cars before around the track. — That's fun. That's I do that all the time. — But you could buy a car that you can drive. — We're going to have a studio at the track. — More fun to not drive your own race car. — That's true. Not worry about [ __ ] it up. That's a good point. So, your show's on Tuby. — Shows on Tuby. Gearhead's gone wild. There's four episodes. Um, — and are you releasing new ones? — You can binge watch all four of them right now. And then if the four do well, they're going to order a bunch more. And that's where I do Hennessy Gun Works. I got some big — How long are each show? — Uh, I think they're like 28 minutes each. — Yeah. — Okay, cool. And it's Gearheads Gone Wild. Yes, sir. On Tuby. — On Tuby? Yep. — The first time I ever go to Tuby. I've never been to Tubi. — Please do. I did. I I only heard about it like a year ago. — I just found out about it 3 months ago. — I just can't believe it has that many [ __ ] — When they're like, "We got to buy Tuby. " I'm like, — "Okay, let's [ __ ] do it. " They've been awesome. — That's great. — It's easy to watch. Yeah. — Well, someone's going to be watching it. There's that many people. — Uh but it sounds awesome, dude. And I'm glad you're doing something that you enjoy. It's our [ __ ] All right, brother. — You love it, man. I love you. Thank you. — Thank you. All right. Goodbye, everybody. See you.

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