OpenAI's New SECRET PROJECT, New Fully Autonomous ROBOT, Text To Image Beats Everything?

so with another crazy day in artificial intelligence news let's not waste any time and dive into what makes today such an incredible so one of the first things that I did actually want to bring to your attention because I think whilst AI developments are good I think this one is going to be most useful in terms of the kind of information that you guys need because you need to be paying attention to what's going on with the economy and the second order effects of course of the AI development that is going on so if you aren't familiar with what's going on here this basically company says its AI assistant is doing the work of 700 people after putting the breaks on hiring so essentially what they've done is they've hired an AI assistant and it's doing the work the equivalent work of 700 people and it says this assistant was on par with human agents for customer satisfaction and of course not everyone's impressed but the AI assistant is another sign for the company's enthusiasm for AI now I don't want to be someone that's just you know constantly you know getting on my soap boox and just talking about how you know AI is going to take your jobs but I think it's important to recognize this and there is also something very interesting happening that I did predict a couple months ago and I think it's important to also take a look at this as well because whilst air development is going faster and people are going to be losing their jobs there's another side that kind of says that wait this might not happen so here's a tweet from the actual CEO and he says this is a breakthrough in the pratical application in AI its AI system powered by open AI has in its first four weeks handled 2. 3 million customer service chats and the insights are staggering it handles 2third of our customer service inquiries on par with humans and customer satisf action higher accuracy leading to a 25% reduction in repeat inquiries lives 24/7 in over 23 markets communicating in over 35 languages and of course the full role of 700 full-time agents is pretty crazy now one thing that I want to actually talk about was like I said was the opposite Trend so this is Tik Tok okay it's just a popular social media app I'm sure most of you know what this is but take a look at this okay so ITV News which is a popular British media outlet they actually did a story on this okay and they talked aled about how you know CL actually did their AI chat B and they're talking about it but what's crazy about that was the human response and this is why I'm stting that there is a kind of different Consciousness that is currently going on in the standard public when it comes to AI discourse and I think that we're moving to an area where more and more we are going to see people hating this AI technology and I can completely understand why you can see here by the top comment on this video is that so boycott kanana I got it okay and of course the second comment is Boycott this company noted okay you can see that right now there is a discourse going on amongst the average person who doesn't pay that much attention to AI that when this technology is advancing any company that seemingly adopts it is going to be boycotted and their brand perception is going to take a complete nose dive and that is something that people aren't taking into account because whilst yes they're going to be making the company more profitable for 700 alltime agents I don't know how much is that going to cost it's definitely going to cost a lot but the point is that their brand rep reputation is going down the drain and you can see this tweet here says now show me their brand perceptions score in one year that's what is really interesting what do you guys think about this okay do you think that in the future we are going to see one type of company that employs humans focuses on humanness and then they have a really good brand perception core and because of that people actually want to shop there they want to use their products because they know they're actually benefiting the economy and Society or are we just going to see completely fully autonomous companies where people don't really care I think it will be interesting to see how this changes but like I said before more and more as time goes on we are seeing more and more AI hate and I can completely understand if you're someone that works in an industry and an AI tool is made and you know some company starts using it to stop hiring people that you previously would have worked at I can completely understand why people are starting to hate this stuff so let me know where you stand on this cuz that is rather important then of course a quick brief story we had opening eyes sued for kickstarting the robot apocalypse and it says a Florida woman filed the lawsuit against opening eye in California court on Tuesday calling for a shutdown on an AI development by the company because a variety of threats like the development of slaughterbots autonomous military agents devoted to destroying humans massive privacy violations and the threat of widespread fake adult rated content amongst a host of other issues now this suit is pretty intense and I think that in future you know maybe opening eye is going to be bowed under a mountain of lawsuits because essentially they are facing criticism after the recent Sora technology video demo and I think a lot of people are starting to realize what the future may hold now this suit whether it's going to be frivolous completely chucked out because of course Slaughter Bots and murder Bots aren't a reality right now but it doesn't mean that they're going to be not happening in the future as we do know companies are working on a lot of Air Technology that is going to be helping these robots do their jobs more efficiently so then this is another example of open ey being sued you can see digital Outlets The incept Raw Story and Alternet suit opening eye for unauthorized use of Journalism new industry lawsuits are piling up for opening eye the company behind a Fu chat B chat GPT the

digital news outset y um it says organizations say thousands of their stories were used by open ey to train chat box to answer questions posed by its uniters in effect picky backing on their journalism without permission payment or credit um and of course they didn't immediately respond to a request for comment so I think what is going to happen here is open AI are going to have to find a way to defend themselves on this kind of stuff or face a mountain of lawsuits and I think if opening eye cuz I know a lot of people might just think okay open ey can just pay this company off if open ey pays this company off there are going to be so many more companies that come forward and try to do the same thing and then if everyone gets piece ofly openi no longer exists so will be interesting to genuinely see how this develops because it's a rather fascinating one because you know they didn't ask for permission but the same time um I'm guessing that the way how these companies store the data isn't just in the same because I mean some people look at AI as a creature while as a software I mean it's a whole another issue that whichever way these kind of things you know end is going to set the pr so that's why I really want to see how these kind of cases end because however they end it will set the precedent for how future cases are tried and the final results are fed then we had morph xability Ai and this is one of the things I spoke about on Twitter when I said certain industries might actually just collapse overnight if we kind of see the continued proliferation of these AI tools because essentially what we're now seeing is an AI tool that can completely make a movie trailer just from a text prompt people have spoke about this becoming a reality and as someone who was even in the AI space I really didn't think that this thing was going to come that quickly and before you watch this trailer understand that this is going to be supercharged with the likes of Sora and what's crazy if you think okay open AI has the complete technology rights to Sora or whatever they've got their own you know closed Source model that nobody else has access to there was actually a research paper that actually dives into how Sor was likely done and I think what's going to be interesting is how the other big Labs kind of try and Implement that technology to see how these videos like text video things evolve so another thing as well is I'm actually kind of glad that someone's actually making this kind of uh technology in a sense the fact that this is so much easier than just doing other stuff but anyways just take a look at this text to video image to video to video how about idea to video introducing morph Studio an all-in-one AI powered film creation tool with an easy to use storyboard format you can easily create and edit shots together based on text or images and generate videos in different styles more Studio helps you connect your ideas test different versions and Export to any post- production software we believe in a sharing Community users can upload their workflows to the gallery and allow others to access them for their own projects welcome aboard the ship to the Future join the wedding with us today so like I said I think this is completely fascinating we have a new AI tool that is going to rapidly change certain industries I mean you know how the video Ed editing industry did work before is you know Adobe going to adopt this kind of new workflow where you put a text prompt in and then you get maybe your scene for a short film I mean imagine being someone who works at a film studio and let's say you guys went out for the day you shot some content and then for example you're missing a couple of scenes you just use a simple text prompt it's trained on your already like hours and hours of footage and then you can simply put a person walking in or whatever it's completely upscale to 4K and that saves you some time I mean it's going to be really fascinating to see how these industry Industries are evolving and what's crazy is that it's just February and we've seen such a you know an insane level of tools of developments of you know software upgrades I mean it's been absolutely incredible so far and like I said you know before in a tweet you know one half of me is completely excited because I think this does empower people who didn't previously have the skills to create the content they wanted to create that is something that is good but on the other side it's also bad because we're seeing that you know certain jobs in certain industries are going to be going away and if they don't go away at all they're definitely going to be impacted severely by a lot of job cuts and of course with the job cuts that doesn't mean that a lot of people are going to have to either change careers or figure out what to do inside of their current industry so I do think that this is a very tricky issue and something that I genuinely would like to see is I the companies you know that are maybe making these tools of it not just blindly make these tools like if you're going to you know make a chat bot or whatever find a way to integrate it into humanness because I think what we will see in the future like I said before was the fact that you know people's livelihoods are at stake and I think when you know a lot of people were laughing at rer saying ha haa I think you have to understand that once you know software developers lose their jobs and a lot of other people do lose their jobs I think then the question is going to reach an inflection point where people start to think okay this is now a kind of problem that we probably should have thought out before and I will actually touch on this in another video which is uh going to really give you guys a unique

perspective on the rapid rise of air developments and something that I should have spoken about before now there was also this tool which is ideogram 1. 0 the most advanced text image model now available on the ideogram AI essentially this is a really comprehensive tool now this is where I think you can kind of see how every different AI tool is getting their place in the system because this what we have is a really good AI text image generator that is good at generating text in image so this is something that I've tested a little bit and I would say that is better than mid Journey doly 3 it's just the best like surprisingly they've just knocked it out of the park with this uh system and to be honest I did think that this team was actually behind like I was like you know maybe they're a little bit behind mid Journey's really far ahead but it is very good at rendering texts like mid journey is good at rendering TCH doy 3 text but this is photo real with really good text and really good accuracy like I'm not just saying this you guys definitely want to try this out for yourself because you can um you know do a lot of stuff with this software and I think that it is really effective like this is good but at the same time like before I was always like ah yeah this might not replace graphic designers this definitely does because you could literally just generate your own posters I'm actually going to show you a few of the examples on Reddit so I'm going to go ahead and try this out so I'm going to put a poster of Knuckles versus Sonic is and I don't even think you need to do this like you know how with other AI systems you need to do this but the reason I'm doing this is cuz I want to show you guys how crazy this is so let's go ahead I'm going to wait 15 seconds and then we're going to see how great this looks cuz you know I've been touting it as a really good AI system and if it looks awful then I'm going to look bad so let's go ahead and see how good this looks and yeah here we are I mean this is uh pretty crazy like I mean this of course like it doesn't look that great at you know the uh I guess you could say Knuckles versus Sonic like I mean the Renditions of the characters could be a little better but I mean you know for 5050 15 seconds guys like this like if this is a little better like in version two if like all these characters just get good I mean you have to understand like imagine you're like 60 years old you've never used a computer before um you're trying to make a movie poster or little poster for your little cafe or something um this is what I'm saying okay people are going to be losing clients to this software because this is only like I think $6 a month or $15 a month that's the most expensive tier and we can see that this kind of thing is pretty incredible I mean the text as well the text the way how like the text is actually the same font as the Sonic thing as well that's why I think this is so cool so um yeah I mean it's a great tool it's something that is really effective and of course you know again if you do want to make like small changes like for example if you want this kind of burst to be green or if you want this to be blue of course some changes you are going to have like a designer you know on hand so I guess you could argue that this kind of Technology does make it uh potentially easier for designers to do their jobs so they could potentially earn more clients quicker so um yeah I mean it's something that uh you know a lot of this stuff looks really good like you know for example here this telegram Channel whatever this is pubg trivia you know a crypto token or whatever I mean this is pretty interesting stuff and this is like a logo I'm guessing like a kind of orts logo I'm guessing these are the other ones as well um that is pretty crazy guys like logo design all this stuff I mean you know you guys are going to be able to use this you can check out the link in the description but um you know AI tools are moving fast and this is definitely better than mid Journey stable diff fusion um every everything that I've seen before so um this one's kind of shocking cuz I didn't think it was going to be this good but um if you want to as well when you are uh generating this as well if you want a poster just do it this ratio CU this is the aspect ratio for a poster if you want like a you know an Instagram post that's what an Instagram post is and if you want like a YouTube thumbnail I'm guessing that's what it kind of is so um and then of course you can change avilability to private public and you've got magic prompt on as well so I think that is really cool because you know as well what I do find is that these guys have an actually really good user interface unlike Discord which is like through mid journey I mean they're doing well anyways but I just find that this user interface is so much easier to use than something like mid Journey where even though I can understand it it's just tedious to do so then we had this tweet from an open AI researcher and he actually speaks about Sora being the gp2 moment for video generation and that is a very big deal because gpt2 was the system before gpt3 and we all know where GPT 3. 5 got us which is of course GPT 4 so he said gpt2 which came out in 2018 could generate paragraphs of texts that are coherent and grammatically correct gpt2 wasn't able to write an entire essay without making mistakes like being inconsistent or hallucinating facts but it spurred subsequent generations of models which is what I said and of course in less than 5 years since gpt2 GPT 4 is now able to grock skills like Chain of Thought or writing long essays without hallucinating in the same way Sora today can generate short videos that are artistic and realistic and it's not able to generate a 40-minute TV show with consistent characters and a compelling storyline however I believe that skills like maintaining long-term

consistency having a near-perfect realism and generating substantive story lines will emerge in the next Generations of Sora and other video generation models a few predictions about how this will play out video is not as information dense as Tech so it will take way more compute and data to learn skills like reasoning via video which is of course true because video is I think very hard to learn reasoning from because it's just visual it's not like you're actually you know reading stuff you kind of have to interpret what you're seeing and as a result leveraging other modalities as corelated information with video will be critical to bootstrapping the learning process so essentially of course annotating videos and stating what exactly is going on is going to be a huge deal and of course there will be massive competition for high quality video data just as there is for high quality Text data sets and if you aren't wondering why he's saying that it's because I think there was this discussion of Are We running out of data because I think you know e with GPT th gpt3 uh gbt 3. 5 they were trained on pretty much the entirety of the internet not the entirety but like near enough the entirety of the internet today so they were saying that look if we basically trained on the ENT all of the texts that exists um where on Earth are we going to get more high quality data sets and that's where people are thinking of things like synthetic data which is data that is created by AI to make AI even better um and of course you know high quality video data is going to be something that we will have to get from somewhere and of course it says AI researchers with experience in video will be high in demand but they'll have to adapt to new paradigms just the traditional NLP researchers have had to adapt to the success of scaling language models and disruption of the movie industry will play out how similar to gbt 4 has changed writing a tool that aids and surpasses average quality but will still be far from the work of professionals so I think that goes to show that like I said before you know these industries are changing and they are evolving very quickly and I mean you know let's say in 3 years we got Sora 3. 0 and it's able to generate 5 to 10 minute videos that are completely you know consistent characters with a voice over from 11 Labs with a complete storyline that I mean that is possible we just saw how movie posters got produced right there I mean are we going to see the proliferation of air generated content um but yeah I think what will be interesting is to see how compute intensive it will be to see if the compute problem is solved because I do think that you know right now compute is basically the bottleneck to AI development and that's why Nvidia stock is just continuing to explode so that is something that I do want to see because the compute overhang is a real issue but at the same time it's kind of good thing because we don't just want to completely explode into the future without you know I guess some kind of guard rails and real checks on how this is going to impact Society now something crazy that most people did actually miss at opening eye was that opening eye did hire a lot of people so it says big hire for openi his portfolio is full of things which became standards openi hired a lot of designers lately yes a new product is coming and or an overhaul to chat gbt to support the extra modalities with gbt 5 so if you aren aware gbt 5 will likely have some extra modalities I'm not sure if they're going to release them just cuz I what I saw on the trademarks maybe they're going to delay it to gbt 6 but I think the reasoning abilities of GP 5 are going to be absolutely incredible but um essentially people have been getting hired at opening ey you can see that this guy right here says grateful for the last 8 years on the apple design team working with incredibly kind and talented people excited to be starting a new role on the design team at openai that's pretty crazy and then this guy says incredibly plan to announce today I'm starting my first day at open AI um another designer then they hired someone else and another one um you know excited for my new Venture we be joining the amazing design team at open Ai and I'm going to be starting in early March so it's clear that they're going to be working on something big and if you remember the Tweet before that we saw open ey employee literally stated that this product is going to change everything so it's clear that whatever it is they are working on is going to change everything I don't know what it's going to be and I'm guessing that's why maybe they're going to delay Futures maybe they're talking about this iterative deployment because if they know it's going to change everything they need to have Society socially adapt to what's coming and that's literally what they said before which is why they released Sora when they did so I find this kind of interesting of course it's pretty vague but um if they're hiring designers I think whatever that is they are building is going to be a lot better than chat GPT cuz they also said that chat GPT you know the final form for chat GPT is not chat so we'll be interesting to see how that works to now we actually did have something crazy about Apple because openi has been hiring a couple of Apple employees but essentially Tim Cook says that Apple will break new ground in generative AI this year so essentially Apple the CEO Tim Cook made a promising statement that Apple will break new ground on generative AI this year and he made the announcement during the company's annual shareholders meeting today which came in the same week that they scuttled its multi decade plan to build an electric vehicle so essentially what they've done is they've decided not to build an electric vehicle they had a 10-year plan to build a really cool electric car and they just scrapped it they just kind of said they scrapped it and some of you guys might be thinking oh Apple they're not that smart but Apple has billions and billions of dollars rumor has it that I think to recent reports they're sitting on around $230 billion of just cash like literally just cash or cash equivalent which is insane for any company um because so many companies oper operate on thin margins and they operate with a lot of debt so for them to have 200 billion just laying around

they could do a lot of stuff with AI like they are a truly insanely profitable company so the fact that they can just scrap that you know waste tens of billions of dollars on an EV what are they going to do with AI I have no idea but I think this is one of the riskiest things for Apple to do because Apple has prided themselves over the years on their ability to I guess you could say focus more on the quality aspect and focus on the polishness if that's even a word of how their products are and generative AI it's not polished just yet like things still hallucinate there's still kind of some errors and we've seen that there are many brand uh you know issues as well with the kind of stuff so I think what apple is doing is Apple is like look you know what we're going to do we're going to wait it out a bit we're going to see the first kind of products that people make systems and then maybe two years from now we releas a product cuz they just released the Apple Vision Pro and Oculus released um their you know vision goggles or whatever way before them and of course the Apple Vision Pro I'm sure they made more money and I'm sure they're doing a lot more in s so I think Apple have to be very careful though because generative AI is something where if a company does manage to get a really good head start it is going to be near impossible to catch up in the future so Apple can't play the long game forever um and that's why I'm excited to see what they're going to be doing this year because um taking long in certain industries is fine if you have insane quality but AI is something that look at where open AI is they're so far ahead of the competition and if you've seen that Google are struggling to try and catch up it means that you know you really can't wait around for everything there's also really important paper um and I'm not going to get into the technicals of this but essentially it just means that LMS are going to be a lot more efficient in the future and this is something I'm going to leave a link to in the description because this is a really important paper and the reason I'm highlighting this is because across the board there is research showing that llms have not plateaued at all awise people might think that it is something that you should completely understand now this is crazy okay I wanted to show you how do I now this is completely crazy I wanted to show you guys this because I've never seen this before I knew it was coming but I never seen it before um and it's crazy someone said AI ads are here and I already hate it I was reading an article about deep mind's genie then this ad was embedded I knew it would only be a matter of time before they customized each ad expect more of this in the future so essentially um you can see right here that it says just as Jeep Minds Genie transformed simple prompts into complex games include introducing Dynamic growth in Virtual Worlds a high yield saving account can transform your initial deposit into a larger sum over time that is an incred incredible incredible thing because it's like you're going to be reading this thinking that something about you know the article you're referring to which is deep mind's Genie it's basically Google's insane um text to Virtual World um which is in early development and this ad is generative that that's a crazy thing because it now means that ads are going to be personalized on a completely different level which means that people are going to be more likely to click them what do you guys think about this this is invasive do you think it's great awful I don't know I think it's kind of interesting but um uh yeah just wanted to share with you all because I think it's an interesting update on how things are changing on the subtle level that you might not notice then we had this one this is crazy like this was insane okay um and I can't play some of the music here because it's going to be copyrighted and then um I'm not going to be able to show you guys the video cuz probably going to strike it down but essentially okay what they did was they took um essentially they took an image and essentially they have it as a puppet I mean um they can bring people back to life the application I can't even speak properly because when I saw this I was like my Jaws on the ground because I was like whoa this is pretty crazy like this looks like a real person but you can see you take an image and then you just turn it into a video so it's like image to video but not image to video it's image to like puppet so it's like it's just insane okay so um I think this one as well is uh actually mirror morati talking and you can see right here that the reference images and then of course the generated video I mean that's pretty crazy like this is the the I mean I'm not surprised by this but the fact that it looks so real is just crazy because every time I see this kind of thing happening like this isn't an actual video I mean it is a video but the pre previous thing was in a video and they used that to make that video it's like what the like I'm just speechless because it's like I knew this was coming but at the same time part of me thought that this wasn't going to be that good like I always thought that you know text the video was going to be here but I never thought it would be real as realistic as that so it's pretty crazy I wish I could show you guys the singing stuff but the singing is absolutely insane like the way how the mouth just tracks everything is just crazy you can see that this one here is um I mean it just looks so realistic like looks like the person is actually alive so I mean what do you guys think the applications of this one of the first things I actually did think about was the fact that you could take a picture of an old relative and then maybe you could you know bring them back to life I know some people find that really dystopian and really weird but I do think that in the future you know that's going to be something that does happen a lot um and it will be interesting to see how this kind of all plays out because it's really really um crazy and we had uh jacn Phoenix um doing something as the Joker I mean honestly guys you need to uh definitely take a look at this because I think this is one of the most shocking

things this week and no pun intended but seriously this one um it's just weird CU I mean if you look at like the cheekbones the neck as well the way the neck moves and I think this you might see this and you might not think it's that impressive but if you didn't see the previous versions of this like compared to how good this is um then I don't think you're going to appreciate how crazy this is so um this is something that and robots are continuing to move forward because you can see right here this is a fully autonomous robot with a 75% accuracy rate it has 7. 5 hours of continuous operation and the speed versus human is 75% so it's definitely pretty insane at how quickly we are moving on these robotics this is agility this is real time and the speed versus a human is 75% now remember these robots are getting faster and I will have another video on why the robotics industry is about to change how things are moving and honestly something crazy happened that I'm about to show you guys at a moment where you're going to be like whoo What on earth just happened cuz it's actually pretty crazy so I think this kind of thing here is absolutely like I mean it's kind of shocking but at the same time it's like I kind of knew this was happening but seeing robots real time in the places of where humans used to be is something that is uh quite astounding because um saying something is is crazy and then you know visualizing it is uh whoa It's Like you know saying text the video is going to be here and then seeing Sora is like whoa like saying that you know text to image is going to be here with movie posters and all this kind of stuff and then seeing it is like whoo it's actually real it's like was this the fact that Amazon is going to be spending a billion dollars on startups that combine AI with robotics so it says we're long away from replacing all humans but they're going to be spending a billion daughters their AI Innovation fund is going to be spending a billion dollars on that something I did forget to add was the fact that the SEC is going to probe whether opening eye investors were misled okay the US Securities and Exchange Commission is scrutinizing internal Communications by open eyes CEO Sam Alman as a part of an investigation into whether the company's investors were misled the regulator has been seeking internal records from the current and former officials and director of the chat gbt Creator and sent a subpoena to the company in December the report said so it says this move followed open's board decision to fire Sam Alman in November and Ed him from the board and the board of the nonprofit startups said at the time that it concluded that he was not consistently candid in his Communications with the board hindering its ability to exercise its responsibility and this is rather fascinating because we do know that mman was of course fired by open Ai and of course we don't really know what happened so I'm guessing they're trying to figure out what on Earth happened that this is uh something pretty crazy so essentially the investigation of course following the tumultuous period for openi over the debates about the leadership of course his fundraising activities for an external Venture and of course the internal tensions including a dispute with a former board member in situations like this the outcome of the sec's investigation could actually range widely depending on what the probe uncovers if the SEC finds that laws were actually broken such as misleading investors there could actually be several consequences including fines mandatory changes to open ey's governance practice or even legal actions against you know certain individuals involved however it also is possible that the investigation concludes without finding any wrongdoing so regarding the possibility of Sam Alman being fired again it largely does depend on the findings of the SEC investigation and open eyes internal review conducted by lawyers from will male and if these investigations uncover significant issues with alman's Act or Communications that were not previously disclosed or addressed it could lead to further action by opening eyes board however given that like Sam out win has already been reinstated under specific conditions including you know an internal investigation his continued leadership will likely depend on the outcomes of these inquiries and any additional measures he and the board have agreed on to address these identified concerns so it's important to know that these kind of Investigations are actually really complex and can take considerable time to conclude and of course the details in this article Don't Really provide any specific or guarantee any specific outcome but rather illustrate the period of scrutiny and potential change once again within open AI so the company's response is rather fascinating and hopefully you guys found this valuable and to conclude this video I want to show you guys all of this from Sanctuary Ai and what you're witnessing is a an actual autonomous robot doing this in real time this robot is doing autonomous work in real time that is super quick so this is uh pretty insane I think we are at that point where robot I'm not going to say they're going to take over but this is a robot this is scaring me like this is something that I never thought I'd see even though I knew it was going to come like I said seeing it is giving me like a mini existential crisis but um knowing that this is a robot that's moving that fast that fluid fully autonomously um is quite surprising considering the the rate of the other robots so that is something that I will talk about more in another video but overall what do you think about Apple shocking the entire industry stating that they're going to break new ground maybe they're going to come out with a new Innovative product they've certainly had time and if you haven't real realiz as well what I want to leave you guys with is as well is that Apple

has been buying AI companies like they have like a ton of AI Innovative startups that they could really use and deploy some really cool products with so Apple could literally come up with the best product ever but um it's going to be up to them to actually get that done