gap for the finance hole. So they're just doing basic level of accounting for you to get so you just know how much money you're making at that time. They can help you take control of your expenses, etc. Over time, that rule will probably come inhouse, but much a little bit later. So like before you're at $100,000 a month, you probably don't have a ton uh that's going on. So just having a fractional bookkeeper is sufficient. Same thing with, you know, somebody who's helping you with your taxes, uh legal stuff. Like you'll have a lawyer, but it's not going to be in-house. And so as you're moving up this value ladder in terms of the value per hour and the cost per hour that you can get this the process of entrepreneurship if you think from a big picture perspective it's always just buying back your time so that you can level up the amount of time that you're spending on high leverage activities. Now here's a key point. I see this happen all the time. I'll see entrepreneurs replace all of their time and then they don't do anything with that added time to add more value. And so in that case your profit margins will go down because you are not continuing to add and do the things that generate the income. Now, as you progress, each of these roles become more solidified. And these people, ideally, in a perfect world, actually can ascend up and then have teams underneath of them. The person who was helping you originally now has a team of people helping them. The administrative person originally, you might have to ascend them into a director of operations who's really pushing each of the tasks and projects forward. They end up being a mini project manager for you if done properly. Right? The salesperson might become a sales director or a sales manager who's actually leading and training uh a series of sales people. Now, I will tell you that a lot of times people have the difficulty of going from an individual contributor at a high level to a manager. It's one of the hardest transitions in business and it's commonly messed up by most people. All right? And so, one of the things that comes with experience in entrepreneurship is you recognize the people who have the talent to do the thing that is required later so you can hire those people earlier on. Now, you can't take, you know, a COO of a billion dollar company and put them in as your operator. one because they pro you probably can't afford it and two they're probably not that interested in the opportunity yet unless you have funding or some sort of vehicle that you can acquire that talent earlier and so as a final concept that I want to introduce to you is that whenever you are starting a business you are incurring debt and this is something that I'm now very convinced of and so you were incurring lots of types of debt you were incurring life management debt you were incurring financial debt you're encouraging technological debt right so that a technological debt which by the way is probably if you had another next full-time hire it's usually a tech person who's helping you manage the CRM, build out sites, and kind of make all the things that you want to have happen or know should be happening in the background actually happen in the real world. They're helping manage passwords, onboard new people in terms of getting them login, all that kind of jazz. And so, in terms of the debt that you're incurring, if you don't have a good CRM that's in place, you will incur that debt and then you'll have to pay it back with interest later when the company's bigger. If you don't have a good bookkeeper in place, you'll have your finances will be a mess and as you scale, you'll have to fix and pay back that debt later. If you have not the best people and the values are not there, then you're encouraging management debt, which means you'll have cultural to pay that back later. And so the idea in terms of moving quickly in the game of entrepreneurship is recognizing which debt I want to incur in what order. And so I used to poo the idea of investors and venture capital and things like that who gave people money to start because I was like, that's not real entrepreneurship. And I think as I've, you know, weathered or aged in the game, I don't see it that way anymore. or I just see it as just fundamentally an advantage is that they're choosing financial debt to incur fewer other debts. Incur fewer operational debt, incur less talent debt, management debt, CRM debt. Like you might have to have a bigger CRM that's better for you so that you can scale having to switch platforms, which is common, but it would cost more money up front. And so if you're bootstrapped, you might not be willing or able to do that, but if you have funding or you have money that you're willing to invest in the business up front, then sometimes you can do that. And so one of the things that is difficult with people who grow bigger companies faster is that they skip through the earlier stages because they know how to do it. And so it's the reason that each of the companies that we've had subsequently have grown bigger, faster, stronger than the companies that preceded them because we are willing to incur less of the other types of debt rather than financial debt because we have the finances. And so we can skip steps in the growth process that would normally offrail a quarter's worth of growth by implementing a new CRM or offload a quarter, you know, or set me back another quarter because I have to fix my financials or set me back another year because I have a whole bunch of management team in place for inexperienced and I need to get more been there done that on the team and fewer I'll learn as I go. And so as we're thinking through this and you're hiring your team, the two major frameworks that I'd like you to take away with this is number one, you're hiring in reverse order of value that you are providing and cost to the marketplace that you can use to replace it. And so typically you will one gets customer support, two some sort of administrative role, three some sort of sales or setter role, four some sort of marketing assist, five some sort of fractional bookkeeper and or a sixth which would be your IT person or tech person. That is usually the beginning of the core team and then it Christmas trees down. So each of them right now have five people hanging off of them. Let me see as this that doesn't freeze. There we go. You'll have five people hanging off of each of these. Not necessarily five IT people, but hopefully you can understand it. Especially on the marketing, the sales and on the delivery. Those are the teams that tend to grow as the companies grow. And the you know IT and finance departments and HR departments which end up getting built over time. There's a ratio that is a higher ratio as in you need fewer of them per amount of customers or employees that you have in the company. And so as you scale that is framework number one. And then framework number two is be mindful of the type of debt that you are incurring and make sure it is the type of debt that you would prefer to incur if you have the choice. And so if you are new to the channel, welcome to Mosy Nation and enjoy the next video. But