actually ended up writing out the backstory for this in in more detail so this will get you 100% up to speed so you have the same context as I had. So, I spent the better part of two and a half years obsessing about a single decision, whether or not to sell my business. And I'm thankful to tell you that two and a half years later, I made that decision. So, what I want to walk you through is how I made it and hopefully help someone skip the 2 and 1/2 years of mental trudging that it took me to get here. So, let's start with why did I want to sell. So, let me take you back into a moment that I decided to sell and then bring you forward to this moment. So, Leila and I were on a walk in March of 2019 and we had just done $4. 4 million in revenue that month and taken out $1. 7 million in owner dividends that month. She stopped and she looked at me and she said, "Let's shut it down. I don't feel like doing this anymore. We don't need the money. Let's just shut it down and move on. " And being the motiv motivated entrepreneur that I was at the time, I was like, "Hey, now let's at least see if we can sell this. " All right, maybe we can get like a small payday before moving on to our next thing. And so I went up and hit my network up and asked anyone if they knew anyone who could help me, you know, value my business uh and let me know what somebody might pay for it. And that's when a good friend of mine, Rick Mayo, introduced me to investment banking friend of his who specialized in our space, which is the fitness space at the time. Um, and so within a day or two, I was on the phone with a guy named Mike Bakumian. And he was a banker in the fitness space and had transacted a handful of high-profile deals. And after a few introductions, I shared our dilemma and asked if there was, you know, he thought the company could be worth anything. And what he told me next really changed my life. And so I'm loosely paraphrasing, but he said, "Dude, you grew from 0 to $17 million in profit in two years, and you're now on pace to grow 50% again this year. " And I was like, "Yeah, I know. We're really tired of it, though. " And Michael was like, "Uh, if you continue this growth at the end of the year," he's like, "I can sell this for 150 million easily. " And I was like, "Really? " And he was like, "Yeah. " And if you can disassociate your brand uh from your face and maybe get another acquisition channel going, probably even more. And so my job just about hit the floor, right? I was used to small business ownership where when you stop wanting to do business, you beg someone to buy from you and you try and recoup your cost as much as you can get. But this was something entirely different, right? 150 million. That's not even rich. That's generational wealth, right? And as a reminder, I was 28. All right? And so my wife and I probably had maybe 20 million bucks saved up at the time, but this was an order of magnitude change in wealth for us. And so after getting off the phone with Michael, my head was spinning. And I felt like my world perspective had shifted forever. And it had. From that moment onwards, the next two and a half years, all I thought about was how do I sell this business for $150 million. And interestingly, from that moment onwards, my business plateaued more or less, right? I mean, we grew, but not to the same degree that we were going before. And it could have been because I was already burned out, which is possible. Um, it could have been because of macroeconomic forces uh because there was a little flu that went around uh that affected gyms or could have been because I wanted to I shifted from wanting to build something to wanting to sell it. And I have no idea. All I can say is that I stopped going I stopped growing after that conversation. And so I can truthfully tell you that 50% or more of my mental bandwidth for the last two and a half years was dedicated to the idea of selling. And what's more difficult about that is I can't really talk about it publicly, right? And so it's this kind of like this burden that you keep in the back of your head that just eats up a lot of your thoughts that you can't talk about. Right? And so what happened was all my decisions changed from what is going to provide me the most long-term goodwill with our customers to what would a potential acquirer think of this decision and would it make the company more or less valuable? And I think this ultimately hurt my business. Uh the heart behind the business had shifted from the process to the outcome. And over the next year, our revenue went up, but our profit dropped because I thought an acquirer would want to see lower churn, which is true, but I made a terrible mistake and lowered my prices in an attempt to do so. And end ended up cutting about $5 million in profit in the process. So, I went from 17 million uh in profit on 26 million topline to the next year, I think we did 37 million top line, 13. 4 million bottom line, which is still obviously not a bad, you know, outcome, but it should have gone the other way. like 19 million on 37. Like I said, although we grew by 40% topline, my bottom line shrunk by 25%. And so, you know, we also thought we needed to show we were legit and hired a lot more people to sit around and do nothing while the core team was still hustling to get the work done. Either way, we spooned up to like 135 employees, I think, at our peak for that those two entities. And so, either way, over the course of 2019, uh we pulled me out somewhat from the fulfillment and product divisions. So, that was somewhat of a win. And then in 2020, we committed to selling the company, right? So, that's kind of like speeding up to 2020. and we knew we could sell the story of the infrastructure cost being something that ate up margin and that we were still growing and we were on pace to you know keep it for a year and show some growth and then sell it concept. So, we went to market in February of 2020 and right, as you guessed it, there was this flu that went around kind of affected our business a little bit. And we had the option of pulling back, but Leila and I were honestly, you know, uh just like even-handed about being in the gym business, right? We wanted to not have that be the only thing in our lives. The bankers ended up adjusting our expectations and said, you know, I think uh and mind you, this was actually we weren't we were no longer working with uh the guy that was referenced earlier. He actually was just council. I we ended up using a different firm. I think we can definitely uh help you grow get and get 45 for this business, right? And at this point, we were fine with that. We just wanted out and not really out, just more like we wanted our focus back. And so over the next three quarters, our revenue and profit continued to decline as the fluid raged on. And once the second shutdown hit, the business really hit rock bottom in Q4. So we had gone from like 3 to 4 million a quarter in profit to like 500 grand in profit in Q4 of 2020, right? Uh, and so the bankers suggested that we stop the sales process and try, you know, try again once the flu had gone away, right? But Leila and a guy, Leila and I were kind of yet again really determined to be out of pain. And so we told them to just, you know, keep going with the process. And so they hit up all the uh private equity firms again and lo and behold, we got a few replies and some firms were interested in buying our company at rock bottom. What a surprise, right? And those replies after a lot of phone calls and meet and greets and information requests turned out to be two offers uh for the company. And then, you know, for context, I can't share the actual numbers of the trailing uh 12 that came up to this for 2021, but I can tell you that they just consistently straight line went up. Um, so basically Q4, Q1 was kind of like the bottom of it. Like December of Q4 of 2020 was like the absolute bottom. And that's really what because there was almost no hope, you know what I mean? Like it had the second round of shutdowns. A lot of gyms had shut down. It was [snorts] just kind of looking bleak, no ended side, etc. And so I'll bring you up to speed kind of internally. We realized that we would have to build this business to run on its own because we didn't know if we were going to be able to sell it. And we knew we weren't gonna like want to shut it down or something like that. There's too many families that relied on us, too many employees, too many customers. Like it just it didn't make sense. And so beyond that, uh tactically we started an outbound call center um so that we could have a second channel. So we started to take the steps that we knew we should do and from the feedback that we had from the first round, which was like you need a second channel. It needs to be less branded to you, etc. This is important to understand. Uh over the next 12 months, I stopped attending all product meetings, all client-f facing calls, all client-f facing events. So I didn't show up to my own events like there was nothing. Uh we built an outbound call team that did 50% of our sales volume. And we promoted a team of gym owners to become the face of the consulting brand overall. And so the all that remained for me was a weekly one-on-one with the CEO, uh a weekly executive call team that was 90 minutes and quarterly meetups internally. So I was no longer public facing at all. It was only uh internal that I was kind of facing. And so now let's get back to where it was interesting. So we signed and accepted an LOI and at this point you know the profits had gone up significantly from kind of the Q4 bottom and uh I have to skip the actual uh numbers of what was around there. I can just tell you the overarching number which was which ended up being uh 46. 2. And so here was the decision-m process and that's what I want to get into which is like okay so what did you guys end up doing and why? All right, because during this process, the business kind of almost shot out of a gun. 2021, it kind of had a really strong rebound. Um, that's obviously why there was way more people who were interested. First, there was two and then there was two more interested parties. And so, we had a handful of private equity firms that saw that, okay, they saw the bottom. They saw the the fast rising back and they're like, wait, we could buy a company that just did, you know, 15 million in IBIDA a year ago or two years ago. Uh, and they can bank on the fact that it'll probably do that again. Let's dive in. All right, so that's the backstory.
more visuals for this, but [gasps] I this already took me a lot of time to transcribe all my notes into one presentation. And so there was two kind of components to this. I and it was really kind of having this like devil's advocate in my head conversation that was going back and forth. And I even just put these directional arrows to like what I said first and then what I responded with mentally. I'm sharing these thoughts with you because I want to show that like I don't think these thoughts ever go away. You know what I mean? Like I said and this is like I mean I was like I need a sale to be legit, you know, as an entrepreneur. And then a friend of mine was like, "Dude, you already have seven successful exits and a handful for multiple millions, right? " And I was like, "Well, yeah. " He's like, "You do 7 million a month right now? Like you're legit. " I was like, "Huh, okay. " Uh he's like, "This is not a reason to sell a business. " And I was like, "Okay, that's fair. " Um I was like, "But a big exit is an entrepreneurial right of passage, right? " And he's like, "So Jeff Bezos suck. Elon, they're not legit because they didn't exit their businesses. " I was like, "That is also a good point. " I was like, "Well, there's kind of like the four-minute mile component. Like there's no e-learning companies that really sell for, you know, or personality driven brands that are selling for these types of numbers. Not many at least. " And so I could prove that, you know, these types of models are sellable. I was like, "Well, can't I just prove that I have a higher net worth and keep it? " I was like, "That's also not a good idea or not good reason to sell You know, another story was like you can't have more than one thing and so that's why you should sell. But you know, in terms of keeping it, it's like well, you just need to level up your skill set. Like there are it is not physically impossible. There are other entrepreneurs who do this and so you just need to be better and this is just a great growth opportunity. So that's not a good reason to sell. I'm like, all right, fair. I was like, ah, it's a big nice f you to everybody who doubted and, you know, spoke out against me over the years. And then it's just like, you're better than that. That's also not a good reason to sell. So I'm sharing this stuff very candidly. You can reinforce uh the lesson of selling my gyms. And so the big lesson there and this is one that I I've spoken about a lot is that you know sometimes you have to give up what you have in order to give up uh to get the bigger thing that is unknown. So you have to let go of something that you do know that is good in front of you for something that you don't know that could potentially be great. And it kind of hinges on the idea that what we don't do are the things that we regret rather than do and then fail at. That was that's kind of the story uh there. And the keeping argument of that is like well that might be the wrong lesson to learn. like maybe you needed to exit those things, but it doesn't mean you need to exit everything. It's making sure that we apply the correct lesson to the story and that might not be the right lesson from that story. I was like, okay, that's fair. And then, you know, finally, doing a sale or at least selling the majority portion of the business would unbrand me somewhat from the fitness industry cuz it's still something that drives me a little nuts. Uh it might also be because of how I look. So, that's possible. Just being real. Like, I still see comments are like, "Hey man, I still find your content valuable even though I'm not a gym owner. " And I'm like, "I haven't made a gym piece of content in three years. I'm glad. Like, it's just funny. And I consciously made that decision in 2019 when I rebranded my podcast uh from Gym Launch Secrets. Uh and I hadn't spoken about Jim Stuff in a while, but I consciously rebranded it to the game, which you can check out if you want. And so, my keeping story around that is like people have already moved out from that, dude. Like a handful of comments is not like what everyone thinks about you, right? You're not just like some gym dude. You already have the majority of your money is made outside of gyms now. I was like, well, yeah, but people don't know that. And so, anyways
these are the stories I was telling myself at this time, right? And so next is kind of like what are the money things that I was telling I was like okay well selling cash would be nice but the keeping argument is uh well after you'll have a tax event so you'll actually be you'll have to give a portion of that to the government it'll actually net decrease your net worth because you already have that value in equity and because of the amount of money you already have. So my wife and I at this point have probably taken from those two businesses about 45ish million in dividends is not really going to materially change your living um which is true. Other thing though is that from a selling perspective, it's like I can take that cash and then I can reinvest it and then all I have to do is just make the delta, right? So it's like I can take, you know, whatever cash I would receive there, I can invest it and then I can build something else. And what I'd have to do is make up the net difference between what I do on my own, what my cash grows into versus what that 66% would be worth in 5 years, right? And so that's the net delta difference. And I was like, I feel like that would be still a pretty strong argument for uh doing the sale. The flip side is what am I going to buy that's going to make me the same amount of money that I could from this company that's clearly going to, you know, triple and then, you know, triple in value and go back to what it was worth um you know, pre flu. Fair argument. On the other side, it's like, well, you're super concentrated. You know, diversification is not a bad idea. And then I quoted Warren is a hedge against ignorance. Do you feel ignorant in this space? Do you feel like you don't like that the companies that you have, you don't know anything about? um will know. I actually feel like I know more about the stuff that I'm doing. Okay. Well, then you don't need to have diversification. Just go all in on the things that you know and then they will grow disproportionately, which candidly, my life is an example of that. So, it's hard to argue against that point. You know, rich people sell, wealthy people never sell. Another argument for keeping it. Yeah. Uh I could also take out debt and still continue to own the whole thing, kind of refinance the business and still keep 100% ownership if I did that. But the problem for me from that perspective is I knew that I would never do that because I was already very tired at that point in running an entire another process from scratch was something that I just knew I wasn't going to be willing to do at least not on any short-time horizon. I was like, "Okay, well, you can still do debt to fuel like M& A and start doing acquisitions and just use that as the umbrella brand. " And I was like, "Um, well, a couple things. One, I didn't have the debt relationships. Two, I didn't know M& A at that level. Buying majority of 30, 40 million, you know, 10 on the low side, 30 40 on the high side size companies. I was like, I don't that's those are mistakes that could potentially like undo everything I've done, and I'm just not willing to uh to quote a friend of mine, bet the empire for a pot of gold. " That was kind of the argument against uh just using debt to fuel M& A. The final, you know, keeping argument for money was like after tax, you're almost going to end up the same money as if you just take out debt on the company tax-free. And that is true in theory. Uh but it's unknown based on promises from bankers. That's not 100% because a lot of times they might inflate things. Uh just FYI, side note, bankers will inflate things for you because they want you to sign on the dotted line to work with them. big picture consolidated from this is that like the money wasn't going to change my life in either direction whether I sold or I kept it which brought me to the