How To Achieve Success In Business & Life | Podcast With Friends Episode 1

do you know how many times I [ __ ] pound I worked in a [ __ ] liquor store at 34 cuz all these [ __ ] 27 year olds are like why am I not a [ __ ] trillionaire I'm like cuz you're [ __ ] 27 right and to play this [ __ ] game the amount of people do who come through Bar store email come through uh call in and they say like I've got what it takes I want to do it I'm going to work so hard at it I want to be like you and we're like cool do it write a Blog start a podcast they don't they give up in a [ __ ] 2 days dude like two days I'm like do this for uh 4 years straight with no feedback no money no nothing and then we can start talking I want to be famous I want to live a 1% life I'm like eat [ __ ] for a decade and they're like what I'm like you want to live attention is the number one asset vayer Nation how are you I'm really excited this is pretty important I have three incredible friends with me this is actually where I'm thinking about going with my podcast uh obviously a lot of you know that listen a lot of my podcast is chopped up from the stuff we're filming from talks or me moving because I'm busy and I'm not really allocating time to create on the flip side there's a part of me as I head into 2024 that really misses creating because you're of the moment you're of the SE the stuff you do I mean you're on [ __ ] Instagram in one second after something happens in sports and you got your take and there's a lot going on with my be friends thing for the people watching on Twitch right now big shout out I'm actually going to use this to build up twitch as well and start uh being live on Twitch when I do my podcast and we're going to call podcast with friends and what we're going to do is me and my crew Tyler Zack Dio a lot of us Sam she's always out there like a lot of us are always just watching and cheering for the people that we're going to have on the show so we've done this in the past I've done podcast uh with two or three or four people at the same time mix from different places but I have even more clarity on why I like it uh I was giving a keynote at vcon August 8th to the 11 2024 go to von. com to check it out it's going to be in La this year everybody needs to come through but um I said something there off the cuff that said my real passion is that strangers become acquaintances become friends and then friends become family MH and it's kind of what I'm thinking about with this podcast what we're going to be doing going forward a lot more often maybe even once or twice a week because I'm going to do an original podcast live fresh of the topics like the Jets lost to the Raiders they're about to play the do excuse me the bills up in Buffalo like this will air before that like in that week fresh and more importantly I'm hoping that for you the audience a lot of these people will go from being a stranger to an acquaintance for some of you that have seen them oh you've seen them but now you're more into acquaintance to friend for some of you that are hardcore fans of these people the way we all chop up in this unique format may lead from friends to family like you like them more and then for the three individuals MH that join me I'm just hoping that they connect with their people and something happens and so we're here episode one of uh podcast with friends and we're going to introduce these friends to you vayer Nation we're going to start here ladies first always to the left please tell everybody who you are what you do then we're all going to just chop it up and then all of you are going to ask me a question at the end for a Q& A session please be already selfish about that because I want it to be good for your career or your life or whatever the [ __ ] you care about let's rock and roll okay well I like the ladies first um my name is law since for ladies always win so ladies first and ladies always win um I'm a singer a songwriter so I create music I have a podcast I am an influencer um I really like to think of myself as a communicator and I kind of just have different platforms and ways that I communicate yeah my messages but music is definitely my greatest gift and my loudest communication right now so that's kind of what I do and where did you grow up I grew up in Upstate New York so in Kingston love it born and raised well I was born like 20 minutes around there but I was there like all of you know first grade through 12 and you always wanted to sing um where I get later no I always wanted to be a singer from like a I started playing piano when I was four okay um and like literally this blonde hair I saw Hanah Montana yes and like literally the episode where she was like jumping on the bed with the r White Guitar which I literally W from Six Flags and you're like I was like I want to do that and then like yeah I kind of was just like I always knew I would to high school and I got into fights with my guidance counselor every week cuz she was like you know SATs and you got to go to college and I was like I'm going to be a pop star and you know that wasn't and here we are but here we are right and now I'm sitting talking to Gary ve czy it works my man Kevin Clancy people call me KFC or KFC bar stool um I started bar stool in New York the New York branch of everything at bar stool in' 09 uh where we were just blogging at the time we were just writing all day long 10 or 15 posts a day uh and then I

jumped on the podcast wave I knew that was going to be uh the next big thing for Barcelo so I've been doing my podcast there for since 2012 uh and then you know video after that which is my video series on social media called one minute man so we kind of do all of it you're proud of that one minute man [ __ ] yeah man love it what do you think about that uh that brand positioning I don't even know what that is I'm be honest well you know what a one minute man is in real life right like no someone who lasts one minute like like s oh my God that was like what is like a for that this is like me all the time though people say things and I'll be like no focused on task at hand not your dirty head going there we go yeah um and so now I mean I've been there yeah what's that almost like 15 years 14 years whatever so and now it's an iconic brand versus crazy dud when you're a grandpa you're going to be talking about it and they're going to know what it is versus even when we met you guys were still in the come up totally I mean I and I never ever thought it was going to be like this I was happy I just wanted to get a job that was not a job like I just wanted to talk sports or shoot the [ __ ] or something and I was one of the Bronx New York guy like through and through right so like Mike and the Mad Dog like dog yeah Mike and dog were like my thing you know Boomer and carton all those guys um I went to forom and that has I believe the best radio and Communications program in the country Syracuse some people say I think it's for lot people from my high school went to forom yeah and if you're which one's considered more bougie and Street what between what forom and Syracuse um I don't know the answer to that are both Bouie com schools probably I think I mean it's a you know consider good com school but I think you know from forom that I like I know so many people from for there's a lot I mean if you look at sports media it's you know mikeen I Eagles though yes yeah that's for sure that's not even close Sports uh the Nerds are over here the guys who play it you know no C got both yeah well okay uh but I would say for being totally but I think I mean when you're at forom you get to cover the Mets the Jets are would you fight a forom sports cter in a fight to settle this like can I put on Syracuse broadcast Syracuse can I get you at ause podcaster sports personality to fight to settle this very challenging thing that we've all been trying to figure out which is who's got a better broadcast school or syc we have the program for that twitch big shout out to all of you get ready it's coming we're going to use this build up twitch this podcast thank you for being here Johnny V what's good aquab boms what's good stunt tuck nft what's good Studio Steve what's good so no you're not into no but you know what we have at Barcelo we have Ruff and rowdy I've said ER I've said this to Da you I think maybe even on the podcast when I was on with you a couple years ago forever I will say this Ruff and Rowdy was the seed of what's Happening Now 100% the Paul brother celebr boxing R and Rowdy now one could argue Kimbo Slice and that was the seed before Ruff and Rowdy was a [ __ ] pay-per-view y I have I give a nor I think this is lost in history MH I mean this yeah I think certain things get lost in history y sometimes when you're the first you're a little too early things so fast nowaday but you know what sometimes you want to talk about like people know I was an early investor on Facebook and Twitter I don't talk enough about that I started a YouTube show eight weeks after YouTube launched yeah like that's not on my resume that all of you walk around knowing like yo Gary B was like early actual real YouTuber wow I let that get lost in history I'm trying to recoup it right now YouTube now Tope anyway brother I'm glad you're on especially I want to talk a little bit Michael Carter got cut who I love with all my heart but lot going on in our Jets all right my man uh Dale Moss former NFL wide receiver um I a lot of people know did you say Randy Moss uh I wish that was a compar comparison often uh former NFL wide receiver transitioned out of sports uh now sports and entertainment host uh a lot of people know me from the reality World um but uh since you know my main focus now is filmm um I'm currently producing uh developing three docu series working with Radical Media Academy Award win production company um and doing a lot of things you know as a Creator um again covering NFL games uh Sports is near and dear to my heart but uh storytelling um is a passion of mine and I think put together right yeah 100% And I I feel like for so long in my life I was so afraid to share my own story um that I grab so I grew up in South Dakota uh small town

Midwest uh so you needed to be humble right you didn't do that kind of [ __ ] or was it something else no it was I think so my mom's side dis owner because of biracial marriage um very isolated Community Sports was my Pathway to break through so many barriers safe place um but you know my family structure was very strong my dad suffered pretty heavily from uh heroin addictions uh you know was in and out of prison till the time I was 21 um but even with all those things that occurred like our like we were raised right you know our love and uh support from our family was unconditional but I know that like everything I did as I was growing up I was so everyone judged me right or they were just waiting for something to happen because at that point if I [ __ ] up they your mom's side of the family I think just the community I was in right which was the broader version of your mom's side of the family makes sense you know so again South Dakota you know only black kid in my school for uh till the time I was in high school but I had this fear of if I made a mistake everything everyone ever thought about my family or myself would then be true it would be true God damn that's a big burden to carry and you know what it's funny like this is like what's so interesting about life like what I'm excited about to get into these episodes and I appreciate you going there right off the bat like we all have that like this concept of judgment is something I'm spending a lot of time thinking about like y know my content like I'm trying to get people to understand what's actually going on like judgment's a killer MH like think about and by the way listening to his story we all know kids go extreme one way or the other on that you either like I'm never going to make a [ __ ] mistake to show y'all or I'm like or you go [ __ ] it doesn't matter no matter what I do you're always going to judge me so [ __ ] it I'm just going to make mistakes yeah ex there's only one answer to that they're on two sides of the pillow but they're going to be [ __ ] extreme and uh but I will say you know as time went on like uh you learned to let go of those things but I'm grateful for how I grew up how I was raised um and it's allowed me do you think your adversities are your foundation 100% yeah um I remember there one time uh again I came you know a lot of people know me from the reality world yeah tell everybody about that cuz there going be a lot of people you mentioned it just again there's going to be so many people that listen to this show over next year or two like a lot of them won't know who you are from that also break down go ahead yeah so I was on uh I was on The Bachelorette in 2020 uh during the pandemic so right so that small show yeah so pretty sure most watched reality show in the history of Television um also I had a very unique experience because uh you know on my season the lead at the time decided to uh stop the show and we ended up Le leaving together early um which uh you know I never it's like reality TV Hall of Fame material yeah like I even know what you're talking about yeah it never not in full detail but I'm like yep I remember that [ __ ] you know cuz I'm like work every second about a season of The Bachelor ending that way I don't really this is ironic but you can see it look at the face I was say if I had a chance to stop the show and just take this [ __ ] home I would too [ __ ] I'm stopping this podcast right now see everyone have a great time look like that um but you know that goes back to like wanting to do things right I had this naive belief uh that you could make it work with anybody and I think sometimes when you have that approach uh just because of what my mom and my sisters had to go through I wanted to be that so badly for someone else and solve the problems super hero exactly a lot of that [ __ ] in me too but you can lose yourself in that but I will say that's the greatest experience I ever had um you know I grew a lot from it I went through some [ __ ] in the media but I never comprom compromised my character and integrity it taught you about yourself for you too you're still young the world can love you how old are you uh 35 yeah you're young dude this is a couple years ago right three now D so like you learn a lot about yourself mhm yeah and you can be the world can love you and something happens and then it changes overnight but um I think anytime you go through something like that especially with millions of people kind of watching every move um and you can maintain your integrity and who you are and that Lose Yourself let's actually go around here a little bit with like back to like what I want to do with this there's probably going to be this is so fun cuz I like to like improv and innovate in real time on the show so of like you even see what's what I have on the table with be friends like I was like you know what this will work for me because I'm on this journey of building my Pokemon Marvel Sesame Street called V friends I got the panda thank you I got the bulldog and someone else I think the cow it's common sense I made the cow common sense cuz I believe it's really underrated and I know that cows are popular so like there's like I love cows this is why I'm doing this every day on my story I post a cow it's like my dream to have like a need get set cow swag let's do that so now no one can judge me open to see if you pull if

this was a cow I'm going to think that this was Max major and I'm G to freak out I'm going to literally scream and all these winners are going to break now I'm scared oh actually I'm going to go around the horn right now and ask actually let's see what you pulled let's see okay we have is this a bass fish no that you can read it it's at the top I think it's a brilliant barracuda okay the woke walrus I to that I Just wallus Energy Karma kiwi I'm big on Karma oh my gosh she's cute okay um persistent penguin that's me that's you right there it's a rookie card too wasn't in series one all right doing a little nerdy stuff like that okay real quick Around the Horn now that we're talking about this I'm going to do this on every episode team keep me honest on this one or two words that you think most describe you who you are as you sit with me today Jesus yes law Gary I've never been a therapy so that's a deep bass question yeah honestly live Stu yeah like just like honestly real talk like and by the way like you know sometimes people can answer like you know right away and you know I'm saving you I'm G doing this right now to give you a little time but like they have a little time not me I'm right next first you know what word or two do you think most describe you right now um I was actually thinking about getting this tattooed so that's deep yeah so this really resonates with you yeah um I would say resilient I've like learned that that's like my superow is that like every time I'm going through something super hard I'm like kind of just like ah like I don't give up very easily and I kind of like would so again like whatever like I'm just like good at dealing with [ __ ] I guess but then I realized like wow like I just don't stop and like that's kind of why I've been able to get where going resilience a lot it's funny with be friends one of the things I'm trying to do is change the narrative on things so the mascot of my entire IP the Mickey Mouse the Pikachu is the very very lucky black cat yeah hell yeah and so resilience is something I really admire and it's funny I don't like that like not that I like the devil don't worry everybody but like I'm trying to do some contradictions so in V friends world the resilient is the resilient Red Devil and like I'm trying just trying to change some conversations dig a little bit deeper I love resilience I love that my man where you at right now uh I'm in the same place I'm always in I uh I'm always trying to be what's next you know like uh Innovative I guess so curious yeah I mean like we I was adaptive I was blogging when that was new I started the podcast I know I know your career well I'm a fan adaptive Innovative curious all probably all uh I I hesitate to use the word Trailblazer because I think it's dramatic but what I have always of you to say that right now yeah don't do that but I what I do it in the sense of like iconic no legendary the best the single greatest human that ever worked on Earth I think I do it in a literal way though like I will I have always done it first and then someone at the company or someone else has taken it Fearless to the next level and I'm kind of happy with that like I'm yeah all right [ __ ] it Fearless I guess I think all these things are a little bit dramatic when we're talking about you know social media accounts and content and whatnot but why like we like honestly like if you think about I don't think anybody should be afraid there's no Fe you know like good brother I have good news for you the entire world's afraid yeah yeah that's bro the only yeah the only thing that's happening right now is fear yeah like do you know what this podcast is about for me personally building blocks to eliminate fear MH friendship is how you eliminate fear back to interracial marriages what's going on in the Middle East right now like the only way things happen good is if people become friends y especially when they don't look like each other yeah yeah everyone's yeah no I get that I just didn't want to be dramatic about it but I do think we're just talking about to your point content but guess what like what sports do you know this you just like a lot of us are let's use this as a theme athletes used to not get paid a lot of money in 1930 4050 you know much more famous a pilot was in America yeah outside of Mickey Mantle like the 1982 NBA Finals was on tape delay right that's crazy it wasn't aired live cuz it was that not popular like magic and bird where they really became like yeah so like like I don't know like content like did you hear what law said she watched Hannah Montana she watched her that ass love you Miley if you're watching this watch Miley being a Nickelodeon show and it changed her life like we may say like listen every time we make a piece of content this included I'm hoping one of the four of us says something for not PCX on Twitch or Juan G or blessed downstairs or the millions that will

listen over the next 3 years of this podcast I'm hoping we say one thing right and by the way entertainment which is what you do that's escapism yeah what is movies and music and sports it's letting us deal with the [ __ ] hardships of the world like everything is I could be super stressed and I have a lot going on in my life but at Sunday at 4:25 p. m. this Sunday I don't care about anything but beat the [ __ ] Buffalo Bills they've been struggling you know what I mean what do you think uh I would say complete and curious um complete and curious complete do you feel complete I feel the most complete in my life that I have I know that I'm not let me ask you a different I yes I love that what about content because I'm curious how you Define complete versus content cuz I see people think content bad and I think content greatest state of humanity yeah when you're content but hungry like that's how I feel that's why I jumped on that yeah I mean I'm good at all moments I've been good cuz I also got raised right before I even started which is why I think everything's happening I don't need another good thing to happen you're set yeah I'm good but I want to [ __ ] tear it all down oh I yeah slave for sure so I would say like content to me um is complacent a little bit yeah this is why I'm fascinated by this word this why this is why I'm playing with this right now because line is like I'm grateful I feel like I can make the best of any situation but I feel like for so long in my life I was doing things probably for other people now I said [ __ ] it I'm doing things for myself building things but I'm also curious in trying new things like it you know I'm in the gaming space I'm doing twitch I'm trying and these are things I never would have done for short I'm not trying to change his word I actually re Liz for Schwarz said Gary out here trying to change his word I'm not actually I'm like so fascinated by his word and some sometimes in my excitement of Fascination I'll jump in and I get why you felt that and I understand that no it's actually I'm like so impressed by that word and I'm also fascinated by content and then he followed it up with the word that I think we're both foundationally grounded in which is gratitude when you're actually grateful it's a rap yeah like it's a rap it's why gratitude gorilla like and by the way what's what I'm setting up here is what I've been trying to figure out like listening to y'all my big thing with be friends when I start doing animation and books and like build this out is it's actually never one thing mhm it's gratitude and curiosity like I think people are trying to solve things with one thing yeah when I'm looking at right these are ingredients this is why V friends the way they're going to solve [ __ ] is more like I need three of them to save the day sure gratitude gorilla and curious crane need to go to him and be like no you got this and I don't think anyone in Earth is talking about gratitude and curiosity together in an intense way to solve the anxiety and unhappiness and worry that everyone's laying at home with yeah and I think we're trying to solve with one trait when it's a mix of three sure yeah no I agree and I just being curious I feel secure to a point now where I can go and if I make a mistake or something doesn't you know it flops it's like all right [ __ ] it like I'm good like that I feel worth TR when you get beyond that point I feel like that is a very critical point of almost any like cuz there to go back to that fear thing there are so many people afraid to do something and it doesn't blow up and you're not famous right away and you don't get the views but I I hadit A Moment Like a couple years ago that was very it was the very corny like there's no such thing as failure it was just like learning along like one minute man we started in 2017 and it worked and it was doing well and then Facebook changed their algorithm the views plummeted it kind of fell off and I was like all right like I failed that sucks and then the pandemic hits Instagram's doing some [ __ ] with their uh user generated content and all of a sudden it comes you know back and it was like our guys's emailed being like we need short form video that's topical and I was like I can do this I've already done this and what I thought it was a failure I like slid it back in and then this time it grows and I was like oh wow that was not in the moment I thought it was a failure and then 3 four 5 years later I realized oh no it was just wasn't the right time was the right situation and now it is so then I was like how many other things am I right now failing at that I'm like oh I got to wait till I'm you know 40 42 46 40 and then those things become let's talk about that this the world and I'd love to get all three of your perspective the world is so absolute even think about this conversation winning failing working not working going back to a little bit what you touched on brother like for me and I'm curious L you know you're so early

in your career like things are starting to happen for you like you know knowing your ambition if Hannah Montana is that nordstar like you're trying to be as famous as you possibly can yeah right and then and so I think about like a couple things that I'd love to get your all three of your reactions to my big thing is like even the Frameworks of winning and losing like it's why I love process like my great dream is that the world finds success yeah so like to me the reason that was really interesting for me KFC is that to me if I'm just doing what I want to be doing is I of course I want it to do well MH sure but I'm just like secretly and this is maybe the Jets fandom in me real talk secretly and I'm curious CU you now all three of you have had more wins in the way the world defines it than the 8 billion people on average of earth right yep so I'm actually really curious where you going to all three can to take this for me if people fall in love with the process like actually MH and I don't know I feel like I'm in some weird next level of this video game where I almost like when it's not working more yeah the grind yeah a new version [ __ ] me up because like now I've gotten to a place that I don't like as much as I did 10 years ago where people actually like do think it's GNA work yeah like secretly I like where be friends is right now yeah because I don't think people like really like I can't wait for like I'm enjoying I want to be underrated at all times and the more success you pile on it gets harder be underated when I was in my dad's liquor store at 32 at 32 and my friends from high school and college came to buy wine and liquor and I would ring them up at the register and bring the case of wine to their BMW cuz they worked in Street and they would drive off and I was the working in my dad's store at how old are you 38 beautiful like 35 38 ladies we don't have but you know but like I just want you to hear this at 34 years old I worked in a liquor store yeah that's crazy and people walking in and like I saw what they looked at I know what judgment looks like yeah facts yeah well you also had a bit glow up to it's easy to pick it up yeah but but you know what when you have the glow up in your head that you've already been glow right because you're just in your Zone regardless if you get to the place you got to or not like I wish people knew how happy I was then in that moment I feel like people can feel that though like if you know like how you care yourself and what you exude though like that it shines through for sure but maybe they were just too blind to see it or they're focused on so many different things well they also their definition is different than your definition that you know this is the whole point can we like to me Law Won and I don't believe I mean it law and I don't think always win and I don't we're getting the brand we're getting the point here I learned this I'm going agree no but listen this is real talk like but winning is not an event though I feel like that's kind of what I like that's why I put it in my brand is that I don't think winning is like at the end of a day or like a game like you won this or you lost this winning is like a lifestyle and it's just something that like you do in your day to day I feel like it's but can you live it yeah because it's not so here here's the question professionally are like what today actually paint a picture for the audience because I want to get to know where do you think you are in your career like to the way we all Define it like I'm on the come up I got a cosign from this I had a flop I'm a I have a song coming out tomorrow that's gonna like where are you in your career for all the audience sir I'mma be real with ma yes ma'am I thought I was at a certain point and I feel like I think I'm at of a point right now where people like know who I am um you know I had a pretty viral moment right tell everybody cuz I'm telling you this is the big thing like all of you got things but like my audience comes from so like there's a lot of different and I want them to hear it and this is for y'all so what was your viral moment um my first I had a couple viral moments so I first went viral in 2021 um for doing loyalty test the most random thing on earth my friend's boyfriend or yeah my friend's boyfriend was cheating on her I made a Tik Tok it went viral um I became very known for doing this but obviously I was doing music so then um when I did that I had a first song that came out my first song ever that came out it started doing well um I made a different Tik Tok account that was strictly for music and then I posted my song y me it has like five million streams so everybody's like you know whatever it's having its moment um that's real MH yeah so I think I kind of like lost where I was going with it uh where you are oh yeah so I think people know they know who I am I think that I would go like live on Tik Tok and people would be like oh you're the girl that made that y me song and I was like oh so like there's people who know the song who don't know of me um but then I was

at Shop Right yesterday and then Rich had texted me and was like Hey like are you like mad casual he was just like hey are you like free tomorrow I think that you're going to be like on like the Gary ve podcast and I was like I feel like you're asking me this a little bit too casual for this super so and then like once I got the G the whole night I was thinking you know I feel as though I'm like cool right people know me but I'm not like these people right I was like looking at all you guys and I'm like how did I get here like how am I sitting at this table with these people that are like so much more qualified than me and this so I don't know where I'm at I don't this kind of [ __ ] me up cuz I'm like I could maybe I'm in a different I don't know how people view me at this point I'm just I'm at a I'm not I'm at a place where I want to keep going so I don't even like a word like qualified now I don't even know what the [ __ ] that means anymore like it use like certain industries and jobs like a lawyer a doctor you had to like literally get a qualification brcas need to go to [ __ ] forom or Syracuse to crush man I got I got my NBA out the [ __ ] window you know like do like what's your title like now everybody's a everyone's a renaissance man and woman I love but also it can be like I I'm 18 years old and I made the right video and I popped off and that's how I have my fans or I'm 50 and I grinded for 25 years and then I had my moment but it's like I don't know if you can fill a room selling tickets or get your stream on your music or you know get uh people to watch your film whatever it is it's like then that's I'm qualified you know what I mean there's no well here's why the internet decentralized everything used to be systems now qualifies the world let me give you a little history lesson on my business career when I started doing public speaking and was cursing and not wearing a suit everyone told me you'll never be a big speaker right and I was like I'm not capable of doing anything by the way real and real talk it wasn't like [ __ ] you it was definitely confidence yeah I was like I don't think so but it was like if I don't that's okay cuz I don't even like talking that way like I won't like this goes back to process redefining success I wasn't going to Define My Success based on my speaking fee or how many people went to my talks I was going to Define it based on not even selling out I didn't view it as me wearing a suit and not cursing as selling out it wasn't that cool MH it was I'm not capable of enjoying it yeah right this huh this is my report card right okay I'm not a dummy I'm not in oh it's your Lal report C it's my little you got an F in German twice why [ __ ] take a German in the first place I thought it was close to Russian I [ __ ] up I went to high school they're like what language like German's probably close to Russian I'll crush it f freshman year F sophomore year look at Junior year I had to take Spanish one I'm a junior in Spanish one fourth graders in there I'm like what's good this was awful what junior year I [ __ ] up heavy it's oh how did you pass they just pushed my ass through look at my class R they want to see you anymore tell them my class rank 243 out of it's right there right next to it please don't say 250 254 well look what I got tell them what I got in speech back to how school doesn't map real life in speech class giving speeches where the hell is think it was sophomore year maybe 10th grade I got a f in Reading I guess oh speech d is meanwhile bro I got a D in speech everybody got an A in that class all you had to do was write a speech go in front of the class and give the speech and you got an A got an A no all four years by the way that's all four years please tell them the only A's I got in high school start with ninth grade KFC nth grade you got an A in fizzed uh 10th fed there it is these are the only A's I got 11 grade only a fed and Senor here no you got two uh health class health I was what they called a Gym Class Hero I wasn't good enough I music guys if if High School was actual Sports I'm a first ballot what's your favorite gym class game ever floor hockey I used to kill [ __ ] used Tove [ __ ] out of those uh curve the [ __ ] out of the stick to the point that it was like a hook and you it was like high was that frustration nobody in the history of Jim tried harder than did you play mat did you do matball yeah is either like a regional thing though lot of people don't even know map ball just kest but it's like you got to run around twice

and you're playing dodgeball kind of we played pickle ball in high school pickle Ball's having this big moment now when I was in high school my gym teachers we had rankings on the wall gym teachers were playing kidle was mushroom they were mushroom all right let's get back track let's get back to track let's go back to track here we go ready to help the audience you guys are running in circles of people that are trying to achieve in different genres let's talk about persp we've talked a little bit about ourselves let talk about persp Ives if I asked you cuz I want to help a lot of the kids that are listening and really the parents that are these everybody is now going to be famous to 15 people like the world's changed every 15y old is trying to be on this podcast you know what I mean like it's over the cat's out of the bag nobody's behind the scenes even my dck was not like people nobody's [ __ ] behind the scenes Dustin's [ __ ] super cool all right here we go for everybody who's listening for everybody who's listen Dustin's cool for everyone's listen what is the common when you this is going to really be fun we'll go in reverse order I'll give you a little time to think thanks Gary reality TV sports Hollywood now land you've been playing in a bunch of lands in your young life yeah what's the cliche very common mistake you see of the your contemporaries the people you look up to the people that are on the come up in the trenches with you at these parties at these meetings at these events what's the cliche a mistake that you think that your contemporar friends acquaintances are making that's leading them to not be as happy as they can be I feel like they're doing what everyone else is doing or just trying to school right meaning like if because everyone's doing this or it's like this is or they're looking for the answers um I was actually thinking about this the other day um because you know I've especially in the last few years especially since uh reality television I really pivoted because I didn't want to be in a box that everyone else in that world is and um I kind of went against the grain but I feel like it's safe to be with a crowd and I feel like we gravitate towards that because you know we want to have people around us but is it that we want people around us or is that we don't want to stand out to be different to deal with the ramifications of not being or more importantly the ramifications of being seen yeah I think people are afraid to be seen judged you know and when you're out there um again I say like the greatest thing for me that happened is I was judged my whole life and once I finally got it was easier for you were built for by the time you went into reality TV World between sports and between being only black kid in South Dakota School your whole life you were used to being judged yeah I'm like I this was an experience but I was like that's not I'm not cut from that cloth that's not my world um but now I'm building um everything I've ever wanted to um and I'm doing this I like without it as much guidance as you would think but I am certain that I'm going to get there and I've got amazing people around me who I trust like through the moon um and you know they're leaders in the industry so I do you feel like back to being complete back to the conversation we're having do you feel like even if everything you try to make in film storytelling shows does not have Commercial Success that you'll deem it a win or you're not completely sure I without question it's a win yeah you're in the process I love it I'm going to skip for a second I apologize but like I [ __ ] want that for everyone it makes me so happy for you can't imagine yeah this is the exact your world you've been in the modern media world at the highest levels y so there's been all the other things that have come up that have looked apart of y'all and different genres you've been in a lot of events like what are you seeing I think it's almost there's no correct answer but I would say there's no correct there almost is man in the sense of comparison dude comparison it comparison is the thief of joy is the line right to me I watched it I did it myself cuz it was like I got to make my blog this good and I did that and then I added a podcast and I got to make my podcast that good and then I got to make my video series that good and every time I like if you would if you were to tell me five years ago you were gonna have your podcast was going to be the successful I would be like oh I would have I would be putting my feet up being like I'm done I did it like I'm that successful that's all I ever wanted and it's like that goal in a good way it's good to be driven but also it's like you're just constantly comparing to who's next and what's next and the amount of people I think especially you know at bar it's like you're next to uh Dave pornoy pardon my take Alex Cooper people who are like you can't reach their level if you were to [ __ ] hit the lottery tomorrow you know what I mean it's like so you or you might but I'm saying but sit there comparing yourself to them is not going to get you anywhere and why didn't you compare yourself to them long before they were them this is what I'm trying to tell all my friends they like [ __ ] you want to compare why don't you compare yourself

do you know I mean I did it already in this show do you know how many times I [ __ ] pound I worked in a [ __ ] liquor store at 34 cuz all these [ __ ] 27 year olds are like why am I not a [ __ ] trillionaire I'm like cuz you're [ __ ] 27 right or ands to play this [ __ ] game the amount of people dude who come through bar stol email come through uh call in and they say like I've got what it takes I want to do it I'm going to work so hard at it I want to be like you and we're like cool do it write a Blog start a podcast they don't they give up in a [ __ ] two days dude like two I'm like do this for uh four years straight with no feedback no money no nothing and then we can start talking I want to be famous I want to live a 1% life I'm like eat [ __ ] for a decade and they're like what I'm like you want to live 1% life you have to like it like when I I'm trying to help people now at parsal more like produce and it's like if it doesn't make money right away get followers right away get views right away like when I was starting the podcast I never looked at I still don't look at the downloads I never looked at the page views I never looked at it was just cuz I liked doing real quick we're going to interject for a second big shout out to MJS 3169 who says that crooked picture frame is making me lose my mind oh the Uber what is that oh Read that read it KFC read what that frame says I want to say thank Uber the microphone here we go uh this is from James at Uber hey AJ I wanted to say thank you for being our first ever Uber Rider in New York how was your exp one more time let's start up from the top James at Uber to AJ marock hey AJ I wanted to say thanks for being our first ever Uber driver in New York how was your experience period let's stop crazy talk about making tons of mistakes in one in a career Travis CEO of ubber in my office in New York early days of Vayner we're early investors in Uber he's like hey we're about to open New York do you want to go downstairs and do the first test run I'm like I'm busy I'm in this meeting I said AJ do me a favor go take this Uber so i s my brother ever do you guys understand how often I would tell this [ __ ] story a my brother AJ took the first Uber in I mean York City do you know [ __ ] fun fact that is do you know when you like have a meeting or something people like hey what's a fun fact you're like yeah I took the first Super in New York what the [ __ ] out of here that's so epic it was a base Fair of seven bucks distance was $6 776 what day was that email sent uh April 8th 2011 wow this goes back to the theme of everything [ __ ] takes a long time yeah mhm like I don't understand like you know what I mean like [ __ ] takes a long time yeah all right um let's all open a pack yeah why did you have me open yeah I had you do open a mini these were in vending machines I just wanted to see if you liked it remember these things when you're little like for 50 cents it's just it's so L he's freaking me out a little bit I'm not going to lie yeah the comparison things so real brother like bro you know I've been saying like uh I Ed my the analogy I've been using is a swimming pool feel like people want to get a swimming like they want a swimming pool right this they think for Curious yeah curious crane hell yeah like trading car um and then you get your swimming pool you never [ __ ] swim in know what I mean like you think I want to buy this house and it's like get in the pool you wanted the pool and now you got it you're not swimming in the pool everybody wants a big house that they don't use 85% of the room totally uh and then what you get what's your favorite one of the bunch um uh hot [ __ ] Hornet bro I can't did you come up with all of these I drew every one of them see that Jack did you come up with the names everything created this whole world what is this alien one in adaptable alien impeccable instate Russian for alien got it I was going to say this is not a real animal I know that much it's an alien I can't believe that how many like two there's 280 V friends so I with all of them yeah yep I always was I was super affected by like He-Man Transformers I'm 48 so I grew up in the 80s when like all that [ __ ] Care Bears that rebooted for all of you I was there when it actually first popped off you know and so um yeah it's pretty cool and something I've always really really wanted to do I wanted to buy an old brand so like for the last 15 years I thought I was going to buy Scooby-Doo or buy The Smurfs buy the IP and then refurbish it but then when I saw the blockchain nft thing I'm like you know what I'm going to do the [ __ ] myself why don't you do both cuz I think there's a Smash Hit there if you bring back listen if I over the next 30 Years build V friends the way I hope to then I become like a Disney built and then they bought yeah Lucas Star War they bought Marvel so look I'm 48 in 20 years if I do this proper and I'm 68 and this Brand's really established building an IP holding company and going out and buying you know a Nickelodeon IP or

Scooby-Doo will be really cool but right now I've literally so much work to do to build this up you know but I really believe in it like if you look at like back to like kind of the theme of this and like the theme of my life and why I built this characters and why this podcast I think will work is like these themes of these characters or what we're talking about it's real life and for me if I can teach people at 5 six seven8 like accountable ant actually let's talk about this let me talk about accountable ant is like a character I'm like really hot on because I think what's [ __ ] up with the world right now is lack of accountability it's everybody else's fault it's the government's fault it's B's fault it's tr's fault it's your mom's fault it's your dad's fault it's this company's fault it's social media's fault it's Kanye's fault it's this it's everyone's [ __ ] fault by so right I'm real curious what what's your relationship with accountability be as honest self-aware humble but speak your truth like where do you think you are on your journey on accountabil I actually find music artists incredibly bad at accountability it's everyone's fault but their music is the problem and but it's always your music's the problem the answer that I was going to give to the first question right like that I see people in music do wrong yes is I think that they put too much emphasis and they expect like their success to come through like someone else so they expect like a manager right the manager's going to do it yeah the lab they Tik tok's going to put me up yeah they don't realize like you have's going to give me a cosign it's his fault for not [ __ ] with me literally yeah so I would say that I agree with that um I think accountability oddly for me like I have like I think that's like a superpower of mine like when I was a kid I used to tell on myself so if I did anything wrong you own [ __ ] yeah like if I broke something my brother was older than me he'd be devising a here's a big one for everyone on Twitch big shout out to everybody denjet what's good Majestic Colt accountability but not going too far where you beat yourself up are you hard on yourself or have you found the balance of accountability cuz to me it's completely not accountable everyone's fault the beauty the middle accountability and then the place that I get scared of when people start [ __ ] on themselves and beating themselves up and that's not accountability that's not a good relationship with yourself yeah I think that I don't know yeah I just I always took a lot of accountability when I was growing up um so I look at situations like if I'm upset about something or at somebody else like my kind of framework that I work through is like what did I do in this situation like what is my participation so you feel like you're in a good place with it yeah I can really do that I feel like uh to throw around a buzzword I got that impostor syndrome big time yeah where I feel like I'm hyper self-aware to the point that I'm always you know syndrome is the new slang for insecurity right okay I just want to make sure everyone out there has let's yeah let's nail that down once for all we've Cen up this word it's insecurity it's okay level to me of like when I when I'm doing this some of the very great opportunities some of the people I've talked to I'm like I didn't even really try to do this plan to do this I am really just a regular ass dude and the beauty of the world is like that's people like me get to do that now but I still think we as a society that's still a relatively new thing you used to have to be trained or famous or look a certain way or act a certain way that first book in the corner there I wrote in 2009 crush it when I wrote that and said this was going to happen I got [ __ ] on right no you got to be somebody but I knew YouTube and Twitter were going to be the found makeal people so I feel like I'm one of those first ones where I'm like but so I'm constantly like I don't know man I don't have the answers I don't know the plan I'm just [ __ ] like regular dude listen first of all back to like me being a fan of yours you know what you talk about like you know your craft of sport I don't ever yeah I Stay I know what I know yeah you know what you know like you're likeable because you have that relationship with yourself mhm I actually I don't think people think I'm likable I think I I don't believe that at all I understand where you're going because you play sports like people Chris Russo is incredibly likable and infuriating and you've got a little bit of that in you because that's your not your stick it's your communication style in that format I love what you said I'm a communicator me too but I'm a different Communicator to my best friend and my I am as Gary Vayner even the of Gary vaynerchuk for V friends is a different Communicator than Gary vaynerchuk the COO of vayer X like there's different versions of it I think the genre you're in yeah is like yes do I think people likeing but Sports Talk is polarizing I think it just as long as you're genuine and real about human is like yes I would agree with that yeah uh I accountability is something I don't shy away from if anything I look forward to it uh do you think you overextend at times and try to take it on when it's not even yours uh I

think I don't beat myself up over it because if my Integrity is is right then if you're good with you then you're good yeah because I know I make the right prudent Choice um but I do probably try to do cover up for other people's mistakes too many times super hero if I can just shout out p WB HLN that said nice things about me regular ass dude who work hard I'm shouting out Ben 1173 KFC not likable I like that guy all right final part of the show question time this is your time to go selfish okay like really I got a lot of love for you all obviously I know you all from afar in different ways a little bit closer with KFC than YouTube but like you know like we're really excited here in my world like we're I'm in this great place where I'm like obsessed with putting people on I've always been that guy that's why I've always talked about the people behind my scenes the first wine show I did uh Eric castner and then Chris Mt mot was my camera guy it was so basic no lighting no audio no nothing and I used to be like M link it up people thought I was saying ma people like it's so in the comments it's so cool your mom too you're like no M but like dck obviously I don't have to tell that story a lot of people know it like I love putting people on and so I really hope B Nation please make sure you dig into all of the obviously in our social content we'll link all these three amazing people up get to know them get on their Journey but back to wrapping it up in the format I want to do on a show any question I can answer about any single thing could be fun it could be detailed it could be about your career it could be a funny thing like what do you got what are you thinking about that might be something I might be able to help with I would say so I feel like you were somebody like in you know life and in you know the Spectre of people on the internet that I feel like you did a lot of things that like have never been done before y um meaning like you didn't have like an example that's why I like him because I think he touched on it I think he's done similar stuff I've done a lot of it for a long time so I understand it and I appreciate that I do like that so go ahead yeah so what would you say like the most valuable thing that you did in that journey is and why like that got you there that you think is valuable not like the numbers the number one word that I'm obsessed with that none of you [ __ ] with is maybe I just heard something about that so that's really like just maybe no like the word maybe like maybe let will work out maybe my word in life is maybe and y'all's word is yes or no predominantly Noh like I saw Casey nistad and all those early vloggers who would do the camera by themselves I was like I want to do that [ __ ] but I don't know how so I'm like maybe I'll have a guy follow me 247 I wasn't unaware that everyone was going to immediately think I'm the douchiest person on human Earth because unlike a TV production following a reality star which we finally accepted 10 years in I was doing it as like a regular dude yeah I mean like literally my first meeting at bar stool with Erica like a man walked in and was filming she's like what are you doing I'm like I film everything she what the [ __ ] are you talking about I'm like I film everything film this is how I Vlog but now it is like standard yeah it's the norm like even David Rock D rock big shout out D Rock who's now going on in building his Universe was with me for a decade that became the term that people called people that filmed people I need a dck wow like it became that crazy so I'm always about maybe maybe maybe I should buy a house on Mars maybe I should like so you just go 100% AI right now was like oh that shit's going to [ __ ] us up the robots going to kill us and [ __ ] that [ __ ] make mus I'm like no maybe do because what maybe does back to curious crane is maybe makes you work MH the reason people say no is if you say no you don't have to do it now I got you [ __ ] now you heard no's easy yeah because no allows you not to do yeah all of you know I know this one's going to land for all of you heard me in 2017 18 saying tick tock tick tock and all of you said girls that dance nobody gives a [ __ ] musically mus that's right I and then all you know so like you know for me it's maybe and I hope everybody gets inspired I wish I made a maybe character I might I'm do think longterm there will be new fee friends I've got so many I don't need to do it but Moose maybe Magpie yeah you know what a magpie is it's a bird it's [ __ ] fresh we have a magpie anyway KC question these are real animals open one more pack open a pack we have nobody's open a good one let's get a rare one you can do two things at once yeah oh I got a shiny one what do we got here I got insightful Irish Terrier you like Irish ters o a hit a rare it's h out of 500 um I guess I'm at a spot with bar stool you know it's a very interesting spot of like it's been a

very tumultuous ride the last year we're kind of in like a transitional thing like sold back this that and it's like we were gambling but I didn't gamble now gambling's out of the picture y uh sometimes I feel like I'm like am I not I've been there for 15 years almost 15 years right but I'm like and part of me the way this is set up right now is kind of like we could just forever and you're worried about complacency kind of like you know should I like be like I'm going to go do my version of Port noise thing like thank you take the equity great time [ __ ] it I'm out why wouldn't you I don't know it's like loyalty is it fear big all that loyalty fear it's easy like the first 15 years were hard and it's a very strange spot all this [ __ ] to get here I'm going do it again and it's like and I'm not very like money driven like I got this money recently that I was very blessed to have and like my life has not changed much one way or the other so I'm like it's not really about money can I tell you something really good here I like this one the answer is and this is a weird one it doesn't matter until the day these feelings hit a Tipping Point in either direction right and then you know right it just happens yeah too many people get caught up in the ideology of the process versus the actuality of the process do you know why it was bad at school cuz it wasn't real to life right and at 10 years old I'm like this isn't real now I have no idea how the [ __ ] that happened no really I mean I really don't know but I'm telling you real talk to the you3 and everyone listening I just knew and I was like if that's true and I fully believe it not on some I was getting good grades at that point I was just like this isn't real yeah and so like you in your own mind it's actually not real until it's so in your stomach that you have to do one or the other MH yeah so I'll just hit that Breaking Point rather think about everything wait for the Tipping Point yeah so it's just a waiting game and then watch this so now instead of stressing it of what you should do or what am I feeling or all these profound [ __ ] games we play with each other how about you just enjoy the living [ __ ] out of it and if you just wake up at 6 o'clock in the morning one day and be like I'm done then you're done am we need to take weight off our shoulders bro tell me how to do it how do you do it the way to do it is to start to take the noise from the world is making everything complicated there's a lot of great that's happened us Jokers can have platforms we could be live on Twitch and hang out with like all these cool people Ben 1173 you know like you we can do all this yeah I like Ben because he red you know like but I think we just need to simplify right I got good news for you because it's how it's going to happen regardless of how many sleepless nights or debates or talking with mentors you have MH one day you're going to wake up and it's there or one day you won't the reason you're not gone yet is it hasn't yet yeah so why not instead of that and like stressing it why not just enjoy it swim in the pool and then if you [ __ ] want to sell the house with the pool sell the [ __ ] got it cool my man I think uh for me the biggest thing right now uh is kind of patience I'm working on some big projects that are long builds uh with the strike with you know the economy but three big docu series um and I see them so clearly that like this is my calling these are going to happen I I know that good for you but that process of just patience especially when there's so many other things I can't control and I like to execute quick yeah it's like you know I just curious like how you practice patience why the question becomes why in a world where you're so good at managing judgment I just worry that this is the blind in the same way that I didn't see that cander was [ __ ] me up because I always wanted to keep it positive I wasn't able to tell people [ __ ] that was [ __ ] up and that actually led to the [ __ ] up I didn't see it mhm for you might not see the place where judgment does matter mhm right because for me like why would you be impatient I like play here play checkers with me on this okay it might even be chess because it's fun okay you got these longer projects right like I get instag gratification I get speed of the world but like if you're so pumped that this is the thing you're doing and it sounds like you are yeah like what's the prob well I guess it's probably more just anxious because I want this to happen and I believe in it but and you're not in control of it happening somebody has to buy it it's Netflix may not buy it hoola right yeah and we're with q1 Q2 we're like pitching these but you're smart enough to know and educated enough to know that it may not exactly I the question becomes for you specifically is do you want it because it becomes something you can point to that starts to move you away from something that you don't want to Define you I think there's I'm not doing it because I don't want to be defined in that way great beautiful then it really just

becomes like what like there's a million scenarios I'd love it to be commercially successful so I can get money to do X yeah I uh I'm so damn curious if I'm good at it I'd actually like it to come out to see if it fails or flops just to win or lose there's a million things that it could be yeah for me it's I believe in the stories and I just like I think they need to be told well then that gets weird because if you believe in the stories that they need to be told you wouldn't be doing it this way because you don't have as much control this way than you do in the modern media world you why don't you just put out yourself sorry not that I that's exactly where I'm going well I mean I have full creative Direction and control on these Pro uh these projects you're putting that format potentially on a pedestal because if you really care about these stories need to be told yeah then there's a very different way about going about it what what soci and long video like you could do it constantly at scale until it finally got told you could literally tell the same story 8700 different ways on YouTube and social until it was finally told yeah and where nobody controls your distribution yeah but this distribution has a different level of pedestal yeah but that's not the purity of wanting the story told you want the story told in a specific way well the what I like these are projects that are so one's uh we're tracking Special Olympics athletes build up to the world games I'm a global Ambassador for the organization my sister has ID yes um I just feel people haven't told the truthful like the real story but you don't need to do that in a classic production lens unless right unless you're using it as the bank which in that case you could have went to any brand at Proctor and Gamble or comcast to like these are like the fun complicated tough questions I always love to ask myself why why you know y yeah cuz the why has the answer to the impatience yeah and I'm going at it at every single angle so like all those things there's no like unturned friends I'm in thank you it was an honor thank you for being show this version we've done something similar to this in the past as you know but um but uh this is the name of it this is the concept I hope that you guys I don't know you're the three of you you're your relationships with each other but I hope if you were strangers that at least this starts your acquaintances I hope those acquaintances become friendships and man when friends become family there's nothing [ __ ] better on Earth so thanks for listening everybody twitch thank you for being a part of this journey you are I've decided to use twitch exclusively just even though I know I could stream this everywhere else it's been a platform that I haven't leaned fully into so I want to use it exclusive so for everybody who's listening to this podcast if you want to catch the podcast while it's happening in the future that will always be on Twitch download a set am I Gary ve on Twitch as well beautiful I keep it consistent don't you get sick of it ever never [ __ ] love all like you want like another platform next year and next year I can't wait to [ __ ] Crush dude I keep saying I can't wait till I die so I don't have to can't wait to wake up tomorrow and there's a new app that's going to be the Nick Tik Tok it's called dingdong and I'm like guys you got to get on dingdong and if you're not on [ __ ] dingdong you're going to regret it I [ __ ] love it everybody thank you for being on thank thanks thank you we'll see you next time n