GirlWithNoJob, Saweetie, & Cipha Sounds | You Don't Deserve to Be Verified! | #podSessions 1

hey everybody its Gary Vaynerchuk so everybody who listens to the podcast I've been wanting to do this concept for a long time I did a version of it not too long ago a couple episodes of the brown paper bags where we drink wine but these three wonderful people are not gonna get served free alcohol you're out but I've always been fascinated by what happens when you bring different people together that are doing interesting things and just shoot the [ __ ] about what's going on in culture in the game and I think a lot of people are in this group specifically I think from what I know about them from afar have crossovers and see certain things the same way and then obviously have their unique journeys and points of view and so I've been wanting to do you know there's this thing that I used to do when I was first coming up in the game in Silicon Valley where I met all the hardcore Facebook's and Twitter founders and Hueber founders and they were called jam sessions where we would get together at these conferences at like midnight in a hotel room and for 3-4 hours just talk about the game right if we would have won tonight we would talk about cryptocurrency right for sure we did four years ago that's why I bought Bitcoin four years ago so you just get different ideas and thoughts about like we would argue about who's gonna be big who's not and so I've been wanting to do this thing called pod sessions podcast versions of the jam sessions and I'm very excited I have three phenomenal guests and probably one of the biggest things that I want to get out of pod sessions is also an opportunity for me as my career change is to use my platform of the attention that I'm amassing to put other people on that also sometimes have bigger audiences to me different audiences to me or emerging and are doing interesting things that have caught my eye normally through some digital connection or the eye of somebody on my team's digital connection so that's what we're doing I'm super excited about it you guys are the three that are helping me pop the cherry of pods legends they've been here and so why don't we introduce ourselves let's start with the ladies so we go ahead hey I'm sweety I'm from LA originally from the Bay Area and I'm an art and recently just um released my single I see growing us one really well and so what's really fun for me on this is that you literally di mean you're like yo you're always in the room with all these dude rappers why don't you bring a girl let's get the ladies in here I'm like she's right this year right and you know she said right here love it let's keep it going with our job yes husband I mean that husband wife of a boy with no job who works for you yes um real name is Claudia Ashish Rai from New York live in New York one school in New York love New York never want to leave everyone keeps tell me I should move to LA but I would rather die thank you sweetie about the fight like we have a conversation piece I like can seduce me when I'm there like on the second day cuz the Sun is like [ __ ] right freeze but it's too slow for me yeah you're starting to get weirdly slow I might have stirred to China it's just the traffic so a lot of people listening here between your amazing husband who I know very well because he works at Vayner on the influencer world the girl with no job and the boy with no job so first of all which account started first oh mine yeah very important everyone should know yes so growth no job is a monster mom now everybody does know so girl with no job is a monster Instagram account we'll get into the origins of that but going well you're super happy all going very pleased it's good and love yes yeah cipher sounds I also love New York I don't want to leave DJ comedian and everything in between yes and uh I don't have as many followers as girl with no job that I just know nobody just shrunk my my ego just yeah the early when I follow I'm gonna get there yeah I got it you gotta choose something right yeah the next time all right let's go back around and create the two-minute origin story like tell me about your early days what got you going how'd you how you became an artist I played your single on repeat all the way down on my winter vacation and so I especially like when anytime people are talking about pasta and seafood dishes I get excited okay that was my favorite if I was back to the old days that I used to listen to music with a temp and rewound there it's a lot easier now that just slide the finger back but you're born and raised in LA know the Bay Area got it yeah so what took me to LA is um so I was riding since I was like 14 years old writing like maps Yemen so I wanted I've been wanting to do this however I didn't have the resources plan yes so I went to college yep San Diego but I was like okay this is a B market city yeah um I need to go to a more and shout out to San Diego that's a B market isn't it I think that's a compliment you need to go to LA of course I wanted to go to the best college apply to USC got in yep I'm graduated and still didn't have the resources so I was like you know what I'm gonna do car revs that's what I was known for it and I was like someone's gonna see these car wraps I was doing it couple of them went viral I ended up meeting my manager and ever since then we've been rockin he was like you know I know about nine months ago yeah so for all of you not in the know car wraps is like a genre that's super interesting like it just makes so much sense now that we have cameras and the ability to record anywhere like I don't know I actually think my vlog is a car wrap like the amount of content dailyvee is that's at the back of my car is a majority because we're so busy like I've loved following that whole scene and there's been multiple people that have popped off from car wrapping did you see somebody popping and decided I'll do that too or was it just kind of know so I had recorded a couple in my car and I was like you know consistency and familiarity is like important with your viewers and your audience so I was like I'm just gonna stay in they're not cozy in that zone does it feel like a booth yes my boo his name is Bruce you named her car Bruce yeah go no job how the hell did that happen it happened how does she know job well actually it happened because I had a job I went to NYU I was like so bored everyone at NYU is very career-oriented New York narrative the NYU part made it so much better you wouldn't never leave like I literally never die in this city 100% do you even travel outside of it well I was just in Mexico and it was beautiful and everything but I couldn't wait we got home I get it yeah it's just I'm not a traveler I don't wonder so 365 days a year you spend 350 - in New York City 363 honestly never want to Mexico for two days literally no joke usually 9/10 you're spending 350 days in the city yeah and you consider Queens and Brooklyn the city yeah okay yes it doesn't ever the five boroughs I don't but you you consider all those yeah you don't consider Jersey the city I mean I spend huge amounts of time there but I would really hate Queens doesn't everyone so yeah I started this blog I got an internship in fashion PR and this was like free Conde Nast getting sued and now having do pay your interns yes you should it's the right thing to do and I don't think people should pay anybody but that's a whole different story if you're giving them actual opportunity I'll explain that later I know it's an unpopular statement but yes Heather I'm not paying you anymore so I got this internship it was six years ago it was unpaid it was like ungodly hours it was just horrible everyone was like super [ __ ] and like mean and skinny and like fashion I was just like I was I'm the opposite of that I'm so cool everyone loves me and like it was just I was being so put down there you know um so I started this blog called girl with a job it was like on tumblr it was like the only way I knew how to make a website back then was on the job with a job and I basically it was more like a diary I used it as a platform to like talk [ __ ] about literally harvest beasts you need to look right up there that is me investing in Tumblr great investments huge I mean like that was like that Twitter and Tumblr were a year before Facebook like yeah that's what put me on like tumblr is forever in my heart know if you have tumblr followers you got followers every they're so loyal and like as like a 18 year old you knew nothing about computer it's like I can make a website without having to like I don't have a host or like things that I know now it was just great as young people like most of you are all young but like doesn't it feel weird that there's like 17 18 year olds that don't know what tumblr is yeah it's like the lack of tumblers like existence does that [ __ ] with you well no okay are you excited about vine too yes me too OkCupid very excited okay so I started this blog it was really like a diary absolutely nobody about it even like been like no one read it I'm dating them no actually we are dating yet so I forgave him for not reading it in analogy for like people to me we're not reading and I didn't she got fired cuz I was terrible they hated me I hated them and I was like so nervous that someone was gonna find my blog so I got fired I changed it for accuracy purposes to girl with no job took to Instagram a long time ago we're like the only person maybe I was a freshman in college so like six five or six years ago okay we're like the only person I knew on Instagram was like Perez Hilton like he was like the first person that's rich in peace yeah rest in peace no here's the good news Perez can flip it up and like this is great about the recall like any it's all about executing properly if you look at who's winning like it's really funny don't ya well Smith's doing Will Smith is about to take over cuz he's logging mm-hmm like you know like he got out of not being as relevant anymore make it 25 million 30 million a film is exciting mm-hmm but like once you've got money you want relevance again mm-hmm and I and you know what it takes humility that's why he's a beast he's humble enough to do it right I think Perez like fine I'll make it prediction it was putting ethos vine 2 is gonna be the platform that Perez rises like a [ __ ] Phoenix respect like since high school I'm done well of course cuz you read his blog every day in high school how many - 2009 dominated and how you can have such success and just like end up where you are is just like there is a well he just released a video on YouTube saying that he was an addict and he didn't say - why really he said not to drugs or alcohol but he just has an addictive personality and I was just waiting for a what he's addicted to and yeah it's a face tattoo I'm gonna lose my [ __ ] yeah I got fired go on the job you feel - Brandon on social really the point of getting on social was like to drive traffic to this website that I had understood where as I kind of just fell into like entertainment culture on social and never even really pick back up with the blog I just fell in verse like a branch top off moment like one did like um what did you post I posted a it was like a picture it was a snapchat actually of a girl like you know girls put their thighs like up on the beach and like hot dogs yes yeah and so it was like actual like what you think you see and then it was actually a girl's fingers like we're telling to be her thighs and it was not a beach it was like her computer and she's at work you know like mr. Ambrose really yes and that just went yeah I'm away you what yes okay I'm I got like 6,000 followers in one day and we'll you did you know been at this point I guess I did now dating and did you text and be like what the [ __ ] yeah nobody were dying we were just like on my phone scrolling and like refreshing and what was he doing with his life at this point this is just me problem we were still in college right then okay I don't remember too much of you better story man Oh from the Bronx originally moved to Long Island in high school that's where I learned how to speak white how quickly did you pick it up very quickly it's easy to pick up well here's a why people love this is today wire yes the airhorn popper yeah and why people love the our Kelly ignition remix I once played on repeat drive from Wine Library the liquor store to Atlantic City and back huh do you love that song yeah like you like no I'm saying in the hood it's okay it's a good our Kelly song no it's well resided in the white community favorite our Kelly song thought is too many real talk everybody will talk you know real job of course Kelly doesn't know that that's a you must have grow up around I grew up my people yeah I want them out of college 97% yeah like yeah real talk is like a deep cut no hook at the end he goes out Melvin so yeah so um so I learned why DJ and I learned why Ahlers DJ I managed to get good at tennis no no you never went you never not that way you got too close well I don't do any sports that's laureate none you're not athletic you now hate me no I don't know I don't like how I keep going I'm not being athletic no problem as long as my dad died when I was young and I'm summing this other comedian that whose dad also died when he was young I think that has a big part of it like really like somebody get it father you know it's funny my dad worked every minute influenced nothing of mine cuz we were immigrants I never saw him yeah it just were kids in my neighborhood were thrown INRIA fault like there's a million vet you got a cousin that was yeah that's a musician yes that's a super heavy into music I started DJing for with this guy DJ raised he introduced me to Funkmaster Flex of course I start interning at the radio station in 97 worked for you in 1997 yeah amazing yeah it's perfect yeah super mess so uh years and years work for no money and just kept climbing climbing eventually got the morning show which lasted seven years and huge run for you yeah I was at the radio station for 17 years in between I'm doing a DJ for little Kim an are that star track which is Pharrell's label I ain't are that Rockefeller like I've done a lot of things that you're too when you bring up little kids when literally this morning think I sometimes think about my day when I'm like brush my teeth hour and just thinking about it like I was like you know I was thinking about you like talking about like the female rapper thing and I was like man there was a point where I think Foxy Brown was literally my favorite artist in the world for like that little 48 seconds of that someone would talk and biggie were dead and I was like [ __ ] up and like [ __ ] it Fox he's my number one sorry anyway just when you said Kim cuz that was the battle of the time those two is kind of like fun so nonetheless so you're in between there are DJ on the Chappelle show I mean Dave Chappelle then I'm funny on the radio so people start saying you're funny sounds like alright people keep saying funny let me try to Congress comment on the radio and I've listened to yours like it was more like a fan improv funny like you were getting off the hip oh like I'm gonna do a set right yeah but people kept saying like should I do well I just started doing comedy as to make money like I'm gonna produce a comedy show I didn't think I was gonna do comedy it's just like people keep thinking I'm funny associate I'm I think I'm funny I'll show you how funny I am give you money so I did this night called don't get gas it was one of the hottest comedy nights for like five six years and from that I started like doing stand-up yep and then at one point I was just like okay am I gonna do this for real and I left the radio station and at you know 39:38 with a pregnant wife decide to start a whole new career good for you man Here I am I mean I've been doing stand-up let's say eight years ten eight years but like for real like where's my bread and butter like four or five years all right let's go back around the table this is segment that I just made up five seconds ago claim what am i obsessed with like what is happening right now in culture or end or your life that you were obsessed with sweet I am absolutely obsessed with social media like the whole [ __ ] thing yes okay let's rank them in order your of your obsession number one every day every other app has to die you can only live there it is Instagram great okay I love like I love Instagram but I'm starting to love Twitter and he's not figuring out what works there it's my mouth figure out what works we're different mm-hmm you found this new womb it's like you found the dead you've always had in the kitchen be like wait Dunn's kind of [ __ ] cool like it can I do in here so Twitter is emerging Twitter yeah and what is emerging what else um that's about it so those two mm-hmm so you're obsessed with twitter and face and then Twitter definitely okay good I mean no job girl yeah I'm obsessed with everything I could talk about literally anything for but till the end of times the number one thing that you were obsessed with right now like stories and live-streaming like in real time content you know yes like I use stories more than I actually post on Instagram these days yes just because it feels super natural for me because that's like I've started on snapchat a while ago yes so just like letting people know what I'm up to at all hours of the day yes and then seeing how many people look at it and what's going on that's saying over like the verified accounts that watch my stories respected verified makes it better yeah worse that blue check is [ __ ] status money not money hooking up and other random [ __ ] that has been happening because of that B check is [ __ ] batshit crazy we're starting to abuse it though yeah like getting themselves verified when I just don't feel like they deserved it what 90% shouldn't be obsessed I'm obsessed with all the dope TV shows that are out right now and I want to make make TV show you want to make - yes what's your number one dopest freshest TV show I mean listen I can't break it down I pray categories no I'm saying I got it you can I'll give you the airtime to say every one of them but then you're gonna have to have a final [ __ ] door and pick one right now like hand mate Handmaid's Tale yeah it's sad you don't say it but then I also love stand-up specials you don't sound like I'm Segura yep no necklace right Hailee's you know what's so funny it's just pattern recognition is exactly what HBO did in its early days like comedy is always a pillar yeah just like sports just like music fashion comedy is such a pillar of our society and what I love right now about Instagram and you've got to give a shout-out to vine cuz comedy absolutely played out there yeah and definitely obviously now Netflix and podcasts for that matter I think up for a lot of people comedy has reemerged as an obvious pillar whereas if like for example you guys talk in your age group like seven ten years ago like six seven five six seven eight years ago it wasn't like comedy was that in our face now you know like you go back to myspace with Dane Cook and you know the tail end of Adam Sandler CDs and like the Jerky Boys on you know I'm old as [ __ ] so they bring that up like but like there's these moments work whether it's comedy or sports or music they pop up in reminding us how important I think comedy is having a moment yeah Kylie used to be a super slow burn you had to be on the road for 15 years traditional to get recognized yet and now there's so many different ways to see it and do it is definitely popping off do you feel like do you feel native to doing comedy on Instagram does that come natural to you know do you know I just I struggle with that because I really love live stand-up in a club and I feel that's getting overshadowed by people doing it on social media do you feel like so it's funny for me when I hear that I feel like that everything is tried and true like it will net like to me I think it's addition to yes like oh I think we're having way too many conversations up and you know or in right of and right I agree like ever like I think one of my favorite things about young people is that everything's in play now so I love hip-hop it's crazy to me that there was only one move in hip-hop when I grew up in there right early to mid 90s which was if you're not hard you're out right and now I literally think like lil yachty would have got his face beated right or ii like like you can't dress like you can't do that now you can do everything anything and i think as long as you've got skills which i think is important all right fine good girl with no job what is your ambition going forward i think you're in a very unique spot from my perspective okay you have a lot of leverage yeah cuz you have a big audience yeah you are we've mentioned tumblr we've mentioned snapchat I think you're you know I'm giving you smart cred off your husband being smart I'm sure you learned everything from you so you're clearly smart so where do you sit on the hmm paranoia of is Instagram gonna be the most important thing for the next 12 months right 24 months 48 months and 72 months how else am I spread us out what am I doing with this you know how are you thinking about this unique moment where 99% of people listening are trying to get to a place where they could live on the back of these platforms you are in that book I don't know anything even he and I don't know but I know what your account is yeah which means to me that you easily could live your life with that as a media property but you're also smart enough to know there's a vulnerability and so many people have been burned on being one-dimensional just YouTube's one-dimensional just Twitter MySpace we mentioned earlier like Tila Tequila should still be relevant yeah if she was able to be relevant in every sea change read people get emotional and say well this is the thing I don't like this new thing but that everything's gonna kill you unless you embrace it yeah and like I literally wake up every day and I'm like afraid of the fact that I don't know what the cool new app is and any time they meet like a twelve-year-old who knows who I am I'm like what do you do on your phone like when you're laying in bed what apps do you like what don't you like I'm in for a while I like lived in fear that Instagram is on its way down and that snapchat was where I was at so I put like so much time and resources into building a successful snapchat which now just bit me in the house cuz I had a successful snapchat and like nobody cares anymore why are your numbers showing you that nobody cares any magic my numbers are so really strong just from like a hole oh yeah like a cool perspective I just don't think that people are thinking that snapchat is cool anymore and as a user like I'm so loyal to snapchat I think it put a face to my brand yes and my brand wouldn't be the same if it weren't for snapchat so anytime I feel like if I see something I want to capture my hand literally just goes to snapchat and that's starting to change because I'm recording more on Instagram stories now that I am on snapchat because there's a bigger audience for me it's like a built-in audience it already exists and it's just they're doing such a better job like for me as I use it as a broadcasting opportunity snapchat does not help creators whatsoever find new audiences Instagram is like putting my stories on the suggested paycheck it's helping me find users who would have no idea who I am sorry podcast so you can see that she looked at her phone something clearly was on the phone either yeah no so bill is not my fingers right now and say with all the leverage you have now what would be the number one next move that's outside of your norm of being a content creator in okay there's two it requires a one a and then step two because I need to just build out my digital portfolio a little bit more before I want to move to like traditional media yes so I want to have like a bigger and better YouTube everything yes so I'm more well-rounded stuff by the time I get to like where like a dream scenario is like a young edition of the view and where we talk about things that young people care about not that like yep Rosie O'Donnell cares about I need to have like a full portfolio I'm sold um I love Rosie I think she's so smart I just I have I don't know why I the view is always my example for what's wrong in modern media but layers I'm a 23 year old woman I don't feel like I'm represented by it's a port but I don't think I'm represented in daytime what about the real it's closed it's better okay I don't feel like I'm represented in modern media especially daytime media where there are people my age or close to my age talking about these that I give a [ __ ] about the overt respect for linear television in this room is disgusting next sweetie like what do we want do we are you in the mindset you know that you're just eventually you and the team are gonna put out the song that changes the narrative of your career is that where your minds at in like are you in the mindset of like I gotta keep working on the work putting out good projects and that inevitably one of those like to me it's amazing to me how interesting the music game is to me like I struggle with finding a way that people pop outside of either the album or the single song being it's a very straightforward game which is that is the moment that changes so many things it's either that hook that song or that cameo or that album are you just thinking hardcore let me be about my craft let me keep being better at putting out great songs and I'll take it from there I would say that's one of the factors yeah however what's constantly on my mind is marketing yes because that song or that hook or that whatever it is I even make sure that I'm always capitalizing on my audiences it's going to show that when I do release that it touches a wide range of people so that it can pop off because without that without marketing like without thinking about that every day you just you're missing the opportunity of like expanding your audience and you're at the mercy of other people exactly if you're so like if I'm always thinking about like widening my range of whoever's like viewing would you like my work yes that's awesome that's the number one thing on my brain because if you're not doing that then

you might how much music can we expect from you in the next 12 months gut feel you may not have the answer for that but intuitively how much music can we expect from you what do you think I would say maybe two or three projects and our projects like six twenty-nine songs or three songs and I would say in 10 to 12 songs got it three projects in the next year two to three Wow nowadays that's not even a lot that's a good amount back in the day where you put our album out every year and a half two years now music it's flying out well we have the microwave generation no I know but that's why you made some friction good I mean my big thing is as many songs as you have in you need to get out yeah because you're not at the mercy of somebody at the radio station or any or the label like this is phenomenal yeah throw that [ __ ] up like if like this is the most democratized music has ever been there's some kid right now listening like in Ottawa Canada who's gonna put something on soundcloud that's 40 seconds away from poppin yeah ya know like when I see girl went viral my song um someone in Dubai sent me the picture of them on the beach with my thumb in a ludus like what yeah once you press that button and the music is you press send the music goes across the world instantly exactly I remember back in the day and I don't want to sound old but I'm old like you oh I used to go to Japan and we would play I play a lot of 90s hip-hop because they were so far behind yep and then as I'm watching the technology grow how world music has changed everything has changed information is moving at a totally different look that's why you're saying you're so into marketing because you know the music is only half of the battle exactly how many people put out music you have to be on top of that other half where like back in the day artists were just artists it just may you know there was some more entrepreneurial but they just made good music and then they had hopefully it would go now you're still on top of it no because audiences and fans aren't interested in the artists who is the typical celebrity right they're interested in the artist who is like your everyday person and who is accessible yeah who do you want to most work with give me two or three names just like work with this business or musically or whatever you want um I don't want to say I'd want to work with dr. Dre only because I worked I saw his documentary she was crazy Jimmy Iovine and they're mad Sciences I like Drake I like what he's done with ovo and his branding he's constantly marketing and I'm real quick I apologize I think what Drake is really smart with and I thought it was what I think one of the best moves of the year and was the humility he decided to show in the commercial with his dad right like people you understand like people like this is all high school this will always be high school exactly like the second you figure out somewhere for most people between sophomore and junior year of high school where you're like oh [ __ ] right if I make fun of myself and I laugh at myself with my friends they'll stop picking on me like understanding the moves I think Drake understanding of anthropology and psychology of like if I put a national commercial for my beverage on where I get clowned and my dad gets the girl like that is smart there's not a lot of people who have the humility in the common hip-hop because you were saying like everyone wants to be okay you want to be hard Rach that's why Drake wins cuz I'm sure 100% and he's awesome and helps hello it's Rachel this hardcore beard do you think he's soup is hotter like one day the creek is hot because I break rig leg I feel like treecko's I got the American dream like he was on Degrassi the injury like him but I'm gonna know why do you know what it was like the dark show things were yeah what were you watching it on like Nick at Nite yeah literally keep going what was he he's the dream he's American dream like he just went from that do you know any of the other kids under Grassi no and now Drake is like drink I'm any wonder always I'm gonna go with the thong yeah would you know her name what uh what's the big North Star for you in the short term okay next thing you'd want to sell what I did I kind of left music you know doing this comedy thing what I realized and what I discovered is that combining them I'm creating my own lane so I combined my hip hop friends and all my history with comedy yep so I do an improv show at UCB where I get hip-hop artists to come tell real-life stories and then me and a bunch of improvisers make up a whole show on the spot I love that you know saying and then I do a Dave Chappelle I DJ like when we did Radio City was there almost a whole month I remember I DJ from cracking jokes while I'm DJing so my job my goal now cuz no one else can detai and do stand-up and if they're out there I'm gonna like no like I'm not the greatest comedian I'm very good DJ combining it no one's in my lane I love it and make my own path I love it what can I do for you let's go back around the other way you first man um I would say help me get to as many followers as she has but you already do that because I watch all your videos and learning everyday how'd you come across it do you remember your stuff mm-hmm just on Instagram just people posting all your stuff and what kills me about you what I love it when someone catches you in the hallway or after you speech speak or something and they ask you the question and you give them the straightforward answer and they like blank and like they want like this trick and you're like no get in the trenches and work your ass off for years no ten years you know saying and just keep going they're like yeah how do you know I answered you already Lee I really do need a yeah but t-shirt yeah because that's usually the answer to almost everything I said yeah but yeah it's like dude he told you the answer like I love that straightforwardness I appreciate it yeah girl no job what can I do for you mmm well I do you know Indy going yes I don't have to go I would love to also know Andy Cohen okay just like a personal favor and I would also just love for their text Eric Wattenberg shot set it up yes coffee or drinks I would you prefer drinks obviously i flourish with the drink what would you order oh it depends where we go I would want to come off as like a lady but also cool so probably like a vodka soda you know got it what do you think Andy would order oh for sure like an old fashioned or like a wish every drink says gay yes yeah and who's Andy's favorite music artist John Mayer very good keep going now we will actually yes we need I would love to sit with you for 30 minutes yes and just like discuss the social landscape like I'm fairly certain I know what's going on yes in the digital space but maybe I'm wrong okay do you want to just triple check yeah like he's gonna double check that I'm doing everything right like man's gonna be there sweetie what can I help you with two things go ahead so I've seen the interview they blow a buggy yes and I thought you mentioned Captain Crunch yes I want to do something with them you love Captain Crunch I love Captain Crunch every black hey look captain black girl loves Captain Crunch are you black everybody loves him White's love cats right you know okay like you Mike boy let's put that on the docket yeah second thing a second thing I want to learn how you built your team I loved the interview you did with a bogey I feel like you shed so many gems and I feel like building the correct team around you is really important we're like expanding like just me you know while I'm wrapping up and I apologize everybody's gonna feel it that I'm like wrapping up because I got the entire company in four minutes that I have to address and so I'm gonna bounce out of here but this is a good thing to end with because I think everybody listening will get value out of this so I appreciate the last thing you said there's several things that matter in

building a team number one the biggest mistake people make is they think people work for them instead of them working for that / team member I think the biggest reason I've had success is I genuinely think I work for Tyler and Jake and Tyler and D rocky it's my responsibility as the North Star the last line of defense to create the framework for them to flourish not for them to like be at my beck and call and I'm the leader and so it's a really interesting mindset but I think you start building actual teams when everything that's [ __ ] up is your fault as the a the number one and that everything that's working is shared with them so for everything's broken with us I take on with me it's not Andy or niraakar Tyler's fault it's my fault and everything that's working is a lot me I believe that but I also think a lot of them picking up on those nuances that's number one number two all three of you have the following amazing opportunity I mentioned it early and it's really ironic but the girl no job story I believe we're living in an incredible time I believe that your if you're a young here let me use you as the example if you were a 14 year old as if you're an 18 year old young woman that has enormous aspirations to be in the music business that interning for you and the team for six months and not getting paid and I know we talked about earlier but if it's for somebody who's got something going on and honestly anybody who's bigger than you and whether that's more album sold more songs downloaded more experience what have you but ever back to the Dubai thing all three of you have on terrible day 100 psychotic fans and not psychotic weird bad I mean all in [ __ ] with you heavy they're all about you of those hundred people I'm gonna say for me too it's not a big number I mean people that are like in Portland Oregon right now that if you DM them and said I want you to follow me around they would be in the room right now and photography me and video me and post that in me and make more time they would rip their arm off get on a plane and fly and be part of you team the fact that in the same way anybody can pop now anybody can make music that you can build a team before you have the finances to afford the team because it's an even trade it doesn't even trade like a job that way that what does the government see it that way listen yeah you have to abide by laws and if there's a state law like I would want that but I think there's a minute because it's under two Vayner right as a human I don't know rent consult your lawyer not like the reality is that here's my thing the amount of women that aspire to be you right now like I know a lot of them right they would I don't know what else to tell you I genuinely believe that Lisa Schwartzman writer for Sam in Millburn [ __ ] New Jersey right now will get way more [ __ ] value for working for free for you for six months she's about 99. 9% of the [ __ ] she could be doing I totally agree and if you want to email me that has to play out yeah you have thunder scene guys in 1947 going to college wasn't the right thing to do it was getting a vocational skill like [ __ ] changes mm-hmm no you wanna hear something crazy not only do I think in 20 years the version of you is not gonna pay I think the person's gonna pay you for the right to even be in your circle well she said I think so okay but I'm telling you right now do you not be [ __ ] people who want to be exactly what you can teach them yeah are gonna pay four thousand dollars for some [ __ ] horse right now or some like so building a team first you work for them period end of story from now to the end till you put that [ __ ] star in Hollywood on the ground and the cement you work for them it's a big my shift and most people don't get it and that's why most people don't [ __ ] win number two take advantage of the moment

there's a lot of [ __ ] kids trying to build up their comedy I've built interns who are now stars came from my camp I get it so I just they're out there I think that that's the other thing and literally it's like an Instagram story or it's gonna post or tweet of like looking for five huts like I don't have much to pay right now but I'll show you the world insight it's real it's very very real and for everybody listening you know some of you don't have the money and you think you can't compensate and you think you're doing the wrong thing if your intent is right so the reason I'm never scared of paying minimum wage or having resident or an intern is I know that I'm always capable of settling the score if they're so [ __ ] remarkable if they do so much greater than what they got paid I can always do something down the line and you know you're up to something and you've got something going on you can always settle the score in the fourth quarter so if you have the right intent I'm not trying to steal from them right I'm trying to get my value good relationships are when both people get value right the end all right one last thing you can leave them with and I gotta go one last thing for everybody listening what should they know what do you say at all what do you want me personally I don't know how anyone else did I know how I did I get in the room I work for free I show my value then people don't want me to leverage that's always how I do it what can people find you at Cypress sounds CI pH a and the word sounds please Oh a truTV I got a new show on truTV with no job Instagram Facebook Twitter all that stuff Claude with no job you know building my personal brand respect doing a live show for my podcast at Caroline's just look me up you know I'm everywhere um sweetie sawa et ie Instagram and Twitter and you know car wraps - doing my first show in Turkey Istanbul next week so nice whatever you can do out there kids social media take advantage of it love it guys thanks for being on the show yeah past please leave some social comments for me feedback to what you think about the format I'm excited as [ __ ] is this I got lucky all three of them did their thing this was good this load we may have to take this on the tour like person and Andy have their little thing like now it is here I mean the four of us in Carnegie like Oh No murder me murder