Grant Morrison Destroys Lindelof Over Lanterns Trailer

DC Comics legendary writer Grant Morrison decided to hold Damon Lindelof to task for saying the Green and Green Lanterns is stupid. Basically going out there trashing Green Lanterns and wondering why people are not happy with it. — Yeah, I love that. I love Grant Moore, especially because he's one of Lindelof's comic book heroes apparently. Same thing with Alan Moore. if I when uh when he did watchman he sent like a letter to Alan Moore and Alan Moore essentially replied was like who's this retard was basically what it boiled down to and he was like don't ever contact me again and now Grant Morrison was like what's wrong with this guy and he had some I pulled some quotes from it because he had some great things one of them was he said how much better could this stuff be if studios were willing to hire the right people for the job instead of phoning their embarrassed friends to water down the source material down Hollywood will die of insular ity and inbreeding. It's like that was great. Yeah. Like why are you hiring people that have contempt for the source material? I don't get that. — Yeah. He even says, uh, does Lindelof imagine it makes him seem less nerdy making fun of Green Lantern? It's a bit too late for that. So, what's it all about? The only people who give a fuck about the Green Lantern TV series are Green Lantern fans. Why alienate them from the start? That's what I don't get whenever they adapt something with a comic because like these companies spend a lot of money on like Q&A and testing and like trying to figure out what works, what doesn't. It's like the comic books did that for years. You know, people don't like this run on Green Lantern. People love this run. Like you know what works. You know what the fans like. So why are you throwing all that in the dumpster just to be like we're going to do our own thing and now we're going to start from like ground zero to step one to try to figure out maybe people like this. And they do it all the time with these adaptions. It seems moronic to me. — The character's been around for over 80 years. That's decades upon decades of source material stories presented to people that liked the source material and decided what was best and what wasn't best. And nobody ever said, "Let's remove the green from Green Lantern. Let's make it a detective show in the Old West and forget about all the cosmic elements of the Green Lantern mythos. " — Lindol came out and he tried to defend himself was like, "I've been a cre for forever. this one time wore a Green Lantern shirt to a panel. See, and also he's talking about cuz if you watch the clip of him saying that green is stupid, he was joking. But the problem is the joke doesn't land when you look at the trailer and it seems like they do have contempt for the color green and they don't like anything associated with the Green Lantern mythos. Like if the trailer was colorful and there were stuff from the comics that you recognize and it looked like a faithful adaption, then his joke would be fine. You'd be like, "Oh yeah, he's just, you know, he's just busting balls and he's just trying to make a joke there. " But the fact that the trailer looks devoid of anything Greenland, it's like, "Oh, that joke doesn't exactly hit because that's really what you're doing. That joke is what you are doing. You're taking the green out of it. You're taking the fun. You're taking the actual source material out of it and doing your own thing and changing it completely. " — And it's not something new for Damon Lindelof and obviously, you know, he got his start doing Lost and all that kind of stuff, but he already worked on The Watchmen and basically bastardized that for HBO. Damon Lindelof himself could have expected this response considering the backlash to Watchmen. — Yes, but there is a subset of people that love that Watchman show he did. It's like straight down the middle. There's one side that loves it, one side. I didn't watch it cuz it looked terrible. But he did have his people that loved it. So, I think that's why he's like hiding his own supply. Like, I can do a comic book adaption here. I can do something great. So, it's a Tom King situation where there's a hopeful minority that claims something is good that it doesn't matter if the vast majority, overwhelming majority people basically, you know, uh, turn their back on it and say, "This isn't what I want. " — Exactly. Yep. And now you got Tom King to team up with him to make it even better. — Yeah, that was definitely a misfire on Gun's behalf, putting them into the same writing room. two people with a propensity to go and deconstruct everything and go against the very nature of what the hero and the story and the lore all kind of represent. But putting them in into the same room and having them work together was just a fatal error. It appears. — Yeah. Gun choosing Tom King as his comic book guy confused me from the start. I don't know why. I have no clue. I don't know if DC threw Tom King at him was like, "Hey, here's our comic book guy. " He's like, "Yeah, I love this guy. " Or if he was actually a fan. I find that hard to believe that James Gun's actually reading comics in his off time as a big Tom King fan. That's what he claims. So, I don't know. But that was just choosing Tom King. It's hard to have a worse choice right now than Tom King as your comic book guy. He is a legacy of Warner Brothers. His mother had been an executive of Warner Brothers for a long time. You know, obviously he made his big breaks on the indie scene and at Marvel, but when he moved over to DC, he was almost immediately put on the Batman book, the biggest title, and it was a good seller there for a while before re people really realized, you know, what he was about and what he was going to be doing with the characters.

But I don't think there's any getting rid of Tom King out of DC Comics in some capacity, whether it be DC Studios or just the comic books, unfortunately. — Yeah, it'd be nice if Marvel tried to snipe him. That'd be great. Marvel could take him. — Oh yeah. I think he'd do great things with Kevin Feige and CB Zabolski. — Yeah. Get him over there. Get him out of — When I watched the trailer, Lindelof was like, "Yeah, green stupid. We're taken out. " No green basically in the trailer whatsoever. But just the way that was written, the way that he was very kind of depressed and, you know, on edge, you know, not really a likable character, had no life or vibrancy to him. It did feel more Tom King to me than Damon Lindelof. — It felt very Tom King and it felt very obvious what we knew from the start when they cast a six-year-old how Jordan, which is they're just trying to side him, get rid of him instantly to make John Stewart the main Green Lantern, which is it's just why are we doing this when we're starting a new cinematic universe? I don't get why. Like we're starting fresh. We're starting from the ground up. And it's like Hal is the most popular Green Lantern. He is the Green Lantern that people think about when they think of Green Lantern. It's like you're going to get rid of him from the get-go. we're going to get one season of like a terrible television show with him and that's it. That doesn't seem smart to me. — You could just go back to the Jeff John source material that he did starting with Greenland and Rebirth and obviously you're probably not going to reach the cinematic heights of like a Blackest Knight because it would be so expensive just to do because there's so many characters and stuff like that. But that would be the ideal roadmap to finally get started and you can start adding characters like a John Storon, a Jessica Cruz because there are lots of of great landings that you could add in there besides Guy Gardner we already have. But it feels like they just decided to start nowhere. Yeah, they started nowhere. And it's so weird because you have so many detective characters to choose from at detective comics and you choose two guys that aren't known for the detective work and you throw them on a TV show budget which is not very friendly to what you would think you would use Green Lanterns for and this is what you do. They're like if you want to do a true detective style DC show, you can make that work with a few characters. Like there are few with a lot of characters at DC. There's so many characters you could use. but instead you choose Hal Jordan and John Stewart and not even a Hal Jordan or John Stewart anyone knows, but a completely new revamped version for your show. It just doesn't make sense. I'm very confused by this choice. — Yeah, cuz Hal Jordan, you know, he's kind of fearless. He's a bit of a rebel within the Greenland court and stuff like that, but his roots are as a test pilot. You know, that's why he's got such tremendous will, you know, seeing his father die and getting into the cockpit himself and all that kind of stuff. Then when you move over to John Stewart, you know, depending on the origin, you know, he's either a marine or he's an architect. Either way, he's not really a detective. Yes, he's a space cop, but his power and his will is derived from other sources and other background. And just looking at the trailer, you don't get the fact that Hal Jordan was ever a pilot, let alone a test pilot. And you certainly don't get the get the idea that John Stewart was ever a marine or an architect because John Stewart in the comic books, he's not a pushover, but he's not an asshole either. In this case, he's keeps talking down to how calling him old, saying, "Your time's over. I can protect people better than you. " That doesn't feel like any version John Stewart that ever existed. — No. None of it feels like either of these characters. It I don't know what this is for because it doesn't feel like it's for Hal or Jon fans. It just It feels really weird. Were you as surprised as I was that Grant Morrison is the one that kind of stood up for Green Lantern fans and Greenlander mythos and like, "Hey, you guys are idiots. Like, what are you doing here? Why are you making a fan a Green Lantern show not for Green Lantern fans? Why are you going and giving this show to people that don't appreciate the source material and basically holding them to task knowing that James Gunn has specifically pointed out to Grant Morrison being a big idol of his and a lot of his work being inspiration for the DCU? " — I was surprised. it. I was surprised that he came because it felt so out of left field. But on the other hand, I'm not surprised that was Grant Morrison because Grant Morrison's one of those people where it doesn't really like he doesn't have any friends there and it doesn't really matter and it's not like if he offends people at DC, it's going to affect him that much. So, I that part doesn't surprise me, but it does feel weird that like cuz he had that one run with Liam Sharp on Green Lantern. So, it just felt weird for him to come out of nowhere and be the defender of Green Lantern. very happy it was him and uh he made a lot of great points, but it w it was kind of out of left field for him to be the guy to point this out. But I'm happy about it. Maybe part of it is because uh he wasn't as much as Grant as much as James Gun talked about how he was an inspiration and also Superman was all he talked about during the leadup to Superman, he was never actually really reached out to for that movie. So maybe that's part of it. I don't know. I was very happy it was him too uh to come with his own points of view and saying, "Hey, these are the things that don't make sense because he does have, you know, that resume. He's got that legendary status and he's somebody

that's been pointed out as being the inspiration for the Batman and, you know, the Superman that they want to use and stuff like that, saying, "Hey, you guys are kind of messing this up. " It doesn't mean as much if it isn't from somebody with a legacy like uh Grant Morrison. So, I definitely appreciated him kind of going out there and standing up not only for DC Comics but really DC Comics fans. James got a Nathan Filia though were out on social media and they are definitely backing uh Damon Lindle off in this one responding to his Instagram post where he profusely apologizes and claims that his favorite color is the color greed. — James Gun posted like a green heart on there. Nathan Fillian ended up staying. That was a funny joke. No harm, no foul. kind of trying to brush it off. So, they're not taking it to heart. It doesn't seem like it's going to make any changes out there, but at least we did get the apology from uh Lindelof actually acknowledging that might have not been the smartest play in the world. — Yeah, it was all it took was Grant Morrison, one of his heroes, coming out being like, "Yeah, don't be an idiot. " So, but it's too little too late now because there's nothing they can do to the show to course correct anything. What we see is what we're going to get, sadly. — Yeah. Yeah, I just had Perch on um the Q&A podcast. And he goes, oh, I think when you get that second trailer, there's going to be lots more green and all that stuff. I was like, I don't know, man. If there was going to be green, it feels like it would have been in the first trailer. — You think? I do think it's something that it's going to be narrative-wise where like, you know, the point where's at and that's why like the color has been reduced and then like as it goes on it'll be like restored or whatever. But still, it's going to be a more grounded approach and how's going to be booted at the end. So, it's still like I'm not excited. Do you feel like Howal goes parallax by the end or Howal dies? — I've been saying for a while I think they're going to parallax him and I feel like that's probably what's going to happen. I think they're going to parallax him so that way they can do either or. So they do sort of an ambiguous ending. So if they want to bring him back as parallax, they can. But if not, then he's just dead. So it just leaves the door open for however they feel. Obviously this is not the first time I have talked about the lanterns trailer and my reaction to it. If you hadn't checked that out, I got this video waiting for you right here. right now breaking down the lanterns trailer and all the issues that I had with it when it first came