7 Thyroid LIES Your Doctor Tells You + Q&A

Hello ladies and gentlemen. Welcome back to the next edition of Monday Night Live. Tonight we're going to be talking about thyroid lies that doctors tell patients each and every day. It's usually the women who get told the lies. Unfortunately, I am Dr. Ken Barry. I'm a board certified family physician. Uh and this vision of loveliness with uh a world record-breaking braid is Nisha Solace Hyphenberry, — registered nurse, certified breastfeeding consultant and certified health coach. — Hello. — And full disclosure, — this is not medical advice. This is YouTube. — That's right. This is a doctor and a nurse talking about stuff that we've experienced in our practices and in real life. This is not medical advice. Consult your doctor. Now, do you want to full disclosure and reveal your medical diagnosis right up front so that people who are just joining us who don't know us know my bias? — No. That you have a diagnosis that's relevant. — I have Hashimoto's, but um let's see how long 10 years ago I was officially diagnosed after years of being told some of these lies that we're going to go into. But I've managed all my symptoms uh with a meat-based diet and feel pretty wonderful. The only time I felt bad was I had a procedure done and any kind of trauma can sometimes flare that up, but I'm back to normal now and all is well. — I'd say you're better than normal. — Uh yes. Yeah, — I would say that too. — Yeah. Okay. So, we're going to jump right in and I've got seven of the biggest lies. But in the comments, I want you to be sharing, have you ever been told something by your doctor that was completely wrong with regards to your thyroid? I want you to put that in the comments. If you haven't already done so, hit the thumbs up at the heart to let the old youtuby know that this is very important content. Uh, make sure you're subscribed or following. Sometimes it'll unfollow you, unsubscribe you. And let's jump in. So I think by far the most common lie and when we say lie we mean myth or misconception misstatement but when a doctor tells a patient that doctors are held to a higher level they're not just your hairdresser saying I think your thyroid's swollen that does they don't you can't sue them but doctors it's their job it's their duty to know the truth about thyroid health and very often they don't and so when they tell you something that's Somebody already guessed number one. — I call it a big fat lie. I was going to say — this is the most common one. I think it's what I was told. Many of us were told and that is that your TSH is normal. — Therefore, — your thyroid is fine. You're fine. It's not your thyroid. This was said to me many times. — How many different doctors? — Three. — Three different doctors or healthcare providers? — Nurse practitioners, healthcare providers. And then our good friend Kim Howton heard this from seven or eight different doctors over a decade and a half — as she had every single symptom of hypothyroidism and you Hashimoto's and they're like, "No, I checked your thyroid labs. It's normal. — Your TSH is normal. " Yeah. — All your labs are normal. Everything is normal. And I think most of us said, "I don't feel normal. " — Right. And I feel like trash. I don't feel like And I was 25 when they my symptoms started showing up. And 20 by 27 — I was being told that's just age at 27. — So somebody literally said that to you. — Yeah. — Oh honey, you're getting older. — Part of getting older. I was like 27. I'm not — I'm not 57. I'm not 67. I'm — in my 20s still. What a ridiculous thing to say to someone who is coming to you for help. — Right now, one thing we do very commonly on this channel is we kind of give you inside baseball, kind of pull back the curtain and let you see the little man at the levers with regards to doctorly stuff and nurse stuff. And one of the things I can tell you as a primary care doctor in the first two or three years of my practice, all I knew to do was check a TSH. That's all I was trained to do in residency. Oh, they've got thyroid symptoms, check a TSH. I was literally taught that's all you have to do. And if it's any more complicated than that, send them to endocrinology. That is completely and wholly incorrect. That is terrible medical practice. Some would argue that it's malpractice. So, there is a full thyroid panel that we're going to list later in this video so you can write it down. So have your pen and pencil and paper ready. You need a pen and pencil. I don't know why you just do and paper. Or you could, I guess, use your phone if it's 2026. You could just put it in a — note. This you could come back and rewatch it. — You could rewatch this. There's any ways. But at the end of this, I'm going

to give you the full thyroid panel of all the labs. If you're having the common symptoms of either low thyroid or Hashimoto's, you need to know these five labs so you can demand from your doctor when they say, "Oh, your TSH is fine. " Say, "Yeah, that's not a full thyroid check. I need you to check these additional things. Would do you want to what were the thyroid symptoms that you were suffering from? " Because we know about all the classic ones, but some of them are not very classic. brain fog, low energy, um hair loss, which you know that is a thyroid symptom — 100%. — Uh there were I mean that it was a short list at first and I think that's why they were like it's fine. You're tired, you're li it's life, you're depress I was depressed, they put me on sele all these things that are — mood disorders were actually tied to my thyroid. And when you have Hashimoto's, you go through periods of slightly overactive thyroid, then underactive, then slightly overactive. And so it was almost she almost had bipolar symptoms. Like she'd be very anxious. I remember hugging her when we were dating and her heart rate, I could literally feel it going 130 beats a minute. — My resting heart rate was always 100 plus. — And so — panic attacks — and more of the classic ones are constipation, weight gain, trouble losing weight, — have weight gain. Yeah. losing the outer third of your eyebrows. You didn't have that. — I never had that. I lost hair. — You had scalp hair. — I gained 40 pounds in a short amount of time eating the same things that I It's not like I just went off the deep end and started eating different stuff. — And again, well, you weren't 40, you were 27. — 25 when everything first started. — Yeah. So, you can't really blame that on being — I felt like I was going crazy. — Yeah. And for those of you who don't know Nisha, she's very intelligent. She's very thoughtful. Um, that's one of the things that made me fall in love with her is she just wouldn't she would think out her argument and lay it out logically and then come at me and I'd be like, "Dang, who is this woman? " But then when her Hashimoto's was flared up, she could not do that. And it so I could see the frustration in her. It's like there's a smart, very, very smart woman trapped inside your body and she can't get out right now. — Yeah, — I remember that. — Pretty bad. — Yeah, it was pretty bad. So a TSH is not adequate. That is not enough. You your doctor can miss severe thyroid disease if they only check a TSH and nothing else. Lie number two is your thyroid disease has nothing to do with your periods or your fertility or pregnancy. — So my actual official diagnosis came when I had another symptom which was infertility. So, uh, I don't know if you know this, but Dr. Bry has many children. — I'm very fertile. — Yeah. Uh, and we had been married for three years when I was like, I think there's a problem. And so, that's when I got diagnosed with Hashimoto's was I had infertility. I went to an infertility spe or a fertility specialist and he's the one who diagnosed me and he said, it's your thyroid. It's very common. It's not talked about as much as it should be, but I see this all the time. I'd never heard as a nurse in labor and delivery and working with OBGYNS, I'd never heard anybody say, "Yeah, thyroid and fertility is tied to each other. " — Yep. And it's very common uh for your thyroid to affect your periods. You can have very heavy periods, very painful dismenorhea or on the other end of the spectrum, you can have very irregular, very spotty, unpredictable periods. All of this can be absolutely due to thyroid malfunction. Uh and then fertility and pregnant pregnancy. If you your thyroid is your master gland, okay, we say this all the time in medicine. It's in charge of fertility and pregnancy. If your thyroid is mucked up, it's going to be much harder for you to get pregnant. Uh fertility doctors are well aware of this because that's all they do day in and day out. The first thing he did was put me on a thyroid medication. It was not to put me on fertility hormones and get me started on an IUI or something like that. It was to get my thyroid fixed because it is so important. — So, the first thing the fertility specialist did for Nisha when she went to see him was correct the thyroid deficiency that she had for years that three or four different primary care doctors and healthcare providers had completely and utterly missed. It's a big deal for fertility. Lie number three, and this is a huge pet peeve of mine. I've got many videos on my YouTube channel about this, that getting iodine is dangerous or somehow bad for your thyroid. Whether you're eating iodine rich foods or taking an iodine supplement like lugall solution

there is not a shred of evidence to support this. This is a complete medical myth. There are very popular influencers out there who have very popular thyroid books who this either was in their book or still in their book. Like if you have Hashimoto's you should never take thyroid uh iodine supplement just never. That was the one of the first things that I was also put on was an iodine supplement and I saw improvements and thing. Another weird symptom I had. I had heel pain or um planter fasciitis and uh I would get up in the morning and I could I look like a little old lady walking to the bathroom — and the colder the floor the worse the symptoms. — The iodine I never have that anymore unless I forget to take my iodine. — How many days do you have to miss the iodine before your heel starts? It's usually about four if we're on vacation or we went somewhere and I didn't have any iodine in the suitcase — uh and I'm not eating seafood or you know at Dollywood where there's not a lot of oysters. — Oh, and here's a good packing tip for you. If you're going to take your Lugall's iodine solution with you, you need to put it in a triple Ziploc bag. Yeah, we learned that the hard way — because the change in air pressure is if in your carry-on or in your check bags, it will leak 100% and it makes a terrible mess. So, put it in a ziplock, zip it up, put it in a second one, third and then you should be fine. But, — but just like everything else we're talking about, we want you to do your own research. Yes. — But I want you to not just do one-sided research. You need to look at the full picture. Absolutely. — People pro, people against, and people in the middle, and do your own research because don't take, we don't want you to take our word for anything. Y, — we're just two random people on the internet that maybe you just met tonight. I don't know. — Who happen to be a doctor and a nurse, but you still can't take that to the bank. — A lot of doctors told me. — Exactly right. That's exactly right. Yes. So, iodine is so important. I could talk for three hours about this. I won't do that tonight. I will just tell you that if you're interested in thyroid and iodine, I've got other videos on my YouTube channel uh with research in the show notes if you doubt what I'm saying. — Dr. David Brownstein uh just uh did a great interview with — Amy Hornman. Uh and I've got a couple of other thyroid. So I've got many thyroid videos on my YouTube channel. So iodine is good for you. Every human on planet Earth needs iodine. Even if you have hyperthyroidism, you still need iodine in your diet. Even if you have thyroid cancer, you still need iodine in your diet. There is no living human that does not need iodine. It's super important. Lie number four, you don't have Hashimoto's, but I didn't check your antibodies. So, the average doctor, as we said earlier, just checks the TSH. — A really good doctor will check a TSH and a T4 or free T4. But a really good doctor will listen to your symptoms. — That's right. — And do all of those things too because when I was first tested, I had — n like barely any antibodies. — Yep. — However, I had every single symptom and it was pretty obvious that I had this autoimmune disease and then six months later they were elevated to a more substantial layer. You know, you want a doctor that just doesn't go by, you know, pictures in a book or numbers in a book. He listens to your symptoms. He or her could be a woman. — Sometimes a woman is better. — Very often Yes. Very often. — Yeah. Very often. Now, I was going to say something super important. Okay. Sorry. — No, it's fine. So, if ne more and more we've got the internet, we've got YouTube, we've got AI, right? We've got all the social media. And so the average woman or man's you can a man can have this but it's much more common in women. They go and look. It's like what's wrong with me Google? chat at GPT and they're liable to say you have Hashimoto's or it sounds like you might have Hashimoto's. So then this woman goes to her doctor or primary care provider and says I think I have Hashimoto's. And they check a TSH and a T4 and say no you don't have Hashimoto's. Not knowing that if you do not check the two different antibodies, which I'm going to give you a list later in this video, you literally cannot detect Hashimoto's with a TSH and a free T4. You cannot detect it. It's completely invisible. You could have the worst Hashimoto's in the world and your TSH and free T4 be completely normal. True story. Okay. Now, Nisha is kind of an odd egg because when she first got her antibodies tested, they were barely elevated. The average woman who's been suffering for two or three years from these weird symptoms, her antibodies are

going to be 100, 200, 300, 400 more. But her doctor didn't check it. Therefore, the doctor was blind to it. Therefore, she gets to keep suffering. And Nisha said something super important before we go to the next slide. Your symptoms are just as important as your lab results, maybe more important. — Yeah. I also have family members who've been diagnosed with that. So that would have been a clue that — if the doctor even known to ask. — They didn't ask. Nobody asked me. — Does your family you have a family history of thyroid? — They didn't even say autoimmune disease. They didn't say they asked me any of that. — Yeah. And it's really embarrassing. I it embarrasses me daily to be a doctor and to know that there are doctors uh and nurse practitioners and physicians assistants out there who practicing this poorly. It's really embarrassing and I apologize for that for all healthcare providers. Line number five. Now, this is a big one also that most doctors have no idea about. So, pay attention. Synthroidid or levothyroxine is proven to be the best thyroid hormone replacement. Did you know that not only is this false, but it's provably it's been proven false? And there's a published research study I was just reading about yesterday. — I didn't know it. It was published back in 74 but — 1974 — in 80 well it was published in 81 but it was conceived in 74. So before 1974 before synthroidid came out as a name brand every woman with a thyroid problem got put on desecated thyroid hormone replacement like armor or nature or something like that. — That's what I was on. — That was the standard of care. But then when synthroidid when they got their patent on levothyroxine which is T4 it's fake T4. Thus the sin — synthetic sinthrowing it's fake T4. And so they did such a good marketing job that they made every doctor in the world afraid scared to death of armor or nature descated thyroid. Oh, it's inconsistent. Oh, it's not good. But there's actually a published study that shows if you take a woman with classic hypothyroid, put her on synthroidid and get adjusted until her TSH is in the normal range, she does not feel as good as if you put her on armor. She's her symptoms are never as well controlled. — Only in women. — Well, the study was done in women, so that's all I can speak to. Yeah, they didn't have any men in the study. So even though she her they got her on just the right dose of cynthroidid levothyroxin she still didn't feel good but when they switched her over to armor and got her on the right dose she's like oh my god I feel so much better okay and that's because levothyroxin cynthroidid is fake T4 whereas armor or nature thyroid are real T4 real T3 T2 T1 T0 and calcetonin — uh this isn't on the lie list but I wanted to also point out that a lot Women and men probably are put on a dose of thyroid medication and then that's it. Yep. — Your thyroid medication is probably not going to be the right dose on the first try. Maybe not even the second try and you may need it changed over time. Specifically if you're eating a healthy low-inflammatory diet and your symptoms start to improve and maybe you need to lower that dose. a one dose is not the dose forever and all time. And if your doctor is not re-checking your labs um at least every six weeks when you first get diagnosed to make sure your dose is correct and then every six months and then every year once you feel good or when you start to feel better and you need to go back and say, "Hey, I've been feeling really good. Can we see if I we can lower my dose because you know uh my symptoms are like nearly gone blah blah whatever. " Work with your doctor. you may, you know, feel even better if your dose is more appropriate. — Yeah. The average doctor once they get you on enough synthroidid to get your TSH within normal limits, they're done. Okay. You could say, "Yeah, I'm still not feeling great. " They don't care. Your TSH is now within normal range. It could be in the lower range or the higher range, but it's normal. So therefore, that's it. We're not adjusting it anymore. Even though you still feel like crap, this is super common. And it's because doctors don't give any credibility to your thyroid symptoms. They just don't want to hear it. — If you've been on thyroid medication for six months and you still feel like trash and they're not doing anything to see if they need to change your dosage, you need a new doctor. — 100% correct. So there are actually much better options to treat hypothyroidism and Hashimoto's thyroiditis than cynthroidid or levothyroxine. And these are proven better. Now, apparently some insuranceances do not pay for these. It's hard to get some doctors to prescribe these. — Some doctors are scared to death of them. — We're just educating you so you know your choices. Uh but just know like it may be a fight or your insurance may not cover these.

— Yep. Absolutely. Line number six, thyroid nodules or gorder has nothing to do with iodine. Now, if a doctor thinks that your gorder has nothing to do with iodine, they need to retire their license. I don't know. But I've actually I've had people tell me my doctor said my swollen thyroid, which is a gorder, had nothing to do with iodine and I should stop taking an iodine supplement. Unbelievable. But the So I can kind of forgive doctors for saying, well, you've got a thyroid nodule or uh you've got multiple nodules or in your thyroid. Uh we're going to refer you to endocrinology. And that's fine because there is a tiny chance that one nodule could be cancer. That's true. Needs to be evaluated. But the vast majority of thyroid nodules and all thyroid gorders get better when you increase the amount of iodine you're getting either in your diet or as a supplement. And I've got a YouTube video called the seven iodine rich foods. I'd much prefer you get it from food, but if you don't like any of those foods, you need to consider a thyroid an iodine supplement because it is it's not optional. If you have a thyroid nodule, gorder, or if you have fibrocystic breast disease, it gets completely better with enough iodine. I've got a YouTube video about that as well. — A few people are asking about the iodine and salt. You have several videos that address this, but uh the too long didn't read is iodine and salt is not going to be what you're wanting. It usually evaporates before you even consume it, and it's not a strong enough dose to benefit people. It's just enough to make your gorder go away, but it's not enough to give every cell in your body as much iodine as it needs. And typically not enough to give your thyroid as much iodine as it needs. It's a tiny amount of iodine in iodiz salt, it's not enough. Maybe for a baby, it might be enough iodine, but for an adult, especially a pregnant woman or a breastfeeding woman who actually needs more iodine. Did your OB/GYN tell you that when you were pregnant or breastfeeding, you actually need to almost double your eye diet intake? — Talk to your doctor. It's very, very important. Okay. Lie number seven, and this ties back to lie number one. Your fatigue, your weight gain, your hair loss, your constipation, that's just from getting older. You're just, you know, I mean, you're not you're in your 30s or 40s or 50s now. You're going to not going to feel as good. — You have kids, you have a job, you have stress. Everybody feels — got that worthless husband. — Just because everybody feels like trash doesn't mean it's normal. It just means we're all probably super inflamed and sick. — See, it may be common, but it's not normal. A normal human does not have these conditions. think that the recliner or the couch is the sexiest thing in the house. — Or you're doing everything you think is right. And things are getting not better, sometimes they're getting worse. — Yes. Now, if your doctor currently believes that a full thyroid panel is just a TSH, and if they believe that, oh, I've got her on enough uh cynthroidid now that her TSH is normal, they're going to say dumb crap like why number seven, because they don't have any other bullets in their gun. They're out. They've got you on synthroidid. They've got your TSH normal. What else are they going to do? That's all they believe is important. They don't care about your symptoms. They're very happy to tell you all this stuff is in your head. And so for you being down in the dumps, you're going to get some selelex for that. For your constipation, you're going to get some milk and magnesia for that. Some barb. That's right. For your weight gain, you might get some adipex or oimpic. — Now, yeah. When it's all your thyroid. — Oh, the way they would have put me on ompic so quick when I was like, I don't know, just gain 40 pounds and I'm eating the same thing and I'm walking and I'm doing Here you go. I would 100% — 100%. Absolutely. Now, uh, who is ready for the full thyroid panel? Tell me in the comments. Do you have your pen and pencil and piece of paper? — He's gonna put it on the screen. You can also take a screenshot. — Take Oh, if in 2026, you could also take a screenshot. — All right. Here it comes. Here's the full thyroid pound. — Okay. If your doctor hasn't checked all of these labs, then you don't know if your problem, your symptoms are coming from your thyroid or not. Number one, TSH, which the every doctor is going to check that. Next is a free T4, which most doctors refuse to check. They don't think it matters. Next is a free T4, which some do check. The most controversial of all these is a reverse T3. Because when you have T4 in your thyroid, it has to be converted into T3, that's what is actually active in the rest of your body. And if you're converting your T4 into reverse T3, then that doesn't work in your body. So you can have plenty of T4, a normal TSH and a normal free T4 and still have a reverse T3 problem and feel like junk. Okay. The next is a TPO antibbody, thyro

peroxidase antibbody. This is how you detect if somebody has Hashimoto's or not. None of Nisha's three primary care providers ever checked a TPO antibody. So they had no idea that she had Hashimoto's. The other one is a TG thyrolobuline antibbody. Now these five tests that this in my opinion is the minimum thyroid panel that should be checked. There's a hundred other thyroid tests in the lab core or the Quest book or online. But these five tests, if you haven't had these five, you have not had your thyroid evaluated. So I want everybody to tell me in the comments, have you ever been told one of these thyroid lies? Have you ever had your thyroid symptoms discounted? Like, yeah, it's all in your head. You're getting older. You need some Selexa. Need some juice bar. You know, you need nursing school. — It's nursing school. It's your crazy drunk spouse. — It's your ex-husband. It's your five kids. — You know, those things will they are can — on you, but you should be able to deal with them. And if you're just like, I give up, that's not normal. — Yeah, that's not normal. So, take a screenshot. Um, you can come back and watch this again if you need to. — Oh, look. Darth V doesn't have his stuff. — Actually, I do. — Do you? — Yeah. Look right there in the screen. — Are you standing your finger up my nose? — No. Were you talking about the book? — Yeah. It's just point to it. It's right there. — Oh, I'll whack you over the head with it. That ought to sell. This can come in handy when your husband's getting on your nerves. This has got the full thyroid panel in it, but it also has a ton of other labs — that your doctor probably doesn't know to check. — This is such a great book. It's for the average person. You don't have to have a medical background to understand. This is written in — simple language written in human. — Um, and it explains what the labs mean, what an optimal level versus suboptim, you know, you could be normal and still feel like trash and what that means. um all kinds of your annual lab C peptide what that means like every this is a great book like I like this book and — Kim Howard helped me write this book and one of the best things about this book is it tells you why a particular test is important like the reverse T3 for example if your doctor says ah that doesn't help anything you can actually say well actually doctor here's what the reverse T3 tells you okay — that gives you standard range optimal range explains TSH, T3, your adrenal system. Like, it's a very good book. I'm not just biased because I'm married to him. I don't read his other books. Uh, but this one I really — He thinks all my other stuff is junk, but this one — I listen, I heard it all already. I know what he wrote down, but this one I mean, this is great for you, for a family member. It's great even to take to your doctor's office. — We've had many people buy a copy and give to their doctor. Yeah. Their doctor doesn't appreciate it initially, but I hope later on they do. — Oh, it's on Amazon. It's also on Amazon. Yes, absolutely. Now, are you ready to answer some questions? I bet we've got some questions. — I really don't know. Depends on the question. — Let's see here. Wait a minute. How come that didn't come up? So, okay, I got to do this. Okay, here we go. Okay, we're going to do the super chat questions first. Hey, Keto Simple about thyroid. It seems mostly focused on women. What should men look for to know if their thyroid is not functioning well? Is it common in men? Great question. So it does occur in men both hypothyroidism and Hashimoto's but it's much more rare much less common in men. — Why is that? — Well I think it's hormonal. I think uh think uh — women are cursed. That's why — the original curse from the garden. You should have left the apple. — They have all the things. — Yeah. But it's I think it's just the hormonal millu in women. men, we're just testosterone. And that's, you know, — the men that I've met that have washimos, because I talk so much about it. I meet lots of people with it. Say the same type of symptoms. They just feel like trash. They don't want to do anything. They can't think clearly. They have low sex drive. They gain weight. They don't want to get up. They just want to come home and lay down. And they don't have the get up and go that they feel like they should have. — Yeah. And in my 22 almost 23 years of experience, I would say that if I saw a hundred women with hypothyroidism, I would see three or four men. That's how uncommon. — That's how many people I talk to and work with. It's like five men to 500 women. — 100%. Yes. And so here but here's the thing. Of course, doctors should think about it when they see a woman, but it can happen in a man. And so a really good thorough doctor Hashimoto's and hypothyroidism is on their their differential diagnosis even when they're talking to a man even though it's so much less common. So this is a great question. Thank you for that. Here's

Carl. 87 year old male on low carb diet. Is it okay to eat 20 grams daily of lint dark chocolate 90% cocoa? So that's much less bad than just eating a Hershey bar. But there's no benefits to eating dark chocolate. I'm sorry to all the influencers out there who have, you know, got a lot of clicks and sold a lot of dark cacao. Uh what is it? Conflictfree. What are all the different trigger words for chocolate? Chocolate's delicious. I love chocolate. You love chocolate. Everybody loves chocolate. She likes it. Okay. — Yeah. I'd like to — There's no health benefits from eating chocolate. Okay. If you're eating a high carb inflammatory diet, there ain't no amount of chocolate that's going to make you healthier. I'm sorry. I know I've just had three or four unfollows. — He's 87 years old. — It's You can eat some chocolate. — You know, when I'm 87, let me tell you, Carl%. Okay. — You can eat some chocolate. — Do whatever I want. — Eat the lowest sugar chocolate, which is what you're doing — within reason. — Eat the lowest sugar chocolate you can get. And but eat it because you enjoy it and savor it. Eat it slowly. Eat a small amount. There's no health. You feel great and like that's your apple — 100%. — H go for it — 100%. Thank you Holly Chrysle. This is must have mustache. — Oh, — do you know the difference? Never mind. Uh after one year — No, not appropriate. — Do you know the difference between — after — that's a dirty job. — After one year on Carnival, triglycerides dropped from 73 to 42. Both of those numbers are great. HDL rose from 64 to 78. Both those numbers are great. Uh total cholesterol went from 354 to 269 and A1C at 5. 3% which is beautiful. I'm waiting for the butt. Oh, okay. This is just a thank you. Okay. 139. 8 pounds at 10. 6% body fat. Visceral fat too. Thank you. Amazing. — So, this is after one year of carnivore, guys. Look at the improvement in all these labs. Now, I don't think everybody needs to be a carnivore, but I think a lot of people need to be a carnivore. And at less 90 days of carnivore, and then you can decide, do I want to stay carnivore or go back to keto low carb? Uh, but yeah, a lot of you guys need to try some carnivore. Here is Juliet or is it Juliet Arrol male 500 lb large gorder and normal TSH and freeT4 but severe cold tolerance fatigue no weight loss even though they're eating 1500 calories a day and weigh 500 pounds. Raise your hand if you think this is a thyroid disease. 100%. Maybe low testosterone as well. maybe some other hormonal issues, but 100% your doctor needs to check the full thyroid panel on Monero and on testo and testosterone was 47. Yeah. And anytime you're 500 pounds like that, your testosterone is going to tank because uh stored fat is an endocrine organ. It actually affects your hormones. Central hypothyroidism or thyroid resistance despite normal labs. So, you don't have normal labs. I guarantee you if you'll go back and look at your screenshot of those labs, go back to your doctor tomorrow, Julie or Juliet, and tell them, I want this full panel done. There's something wrong with me. And then I want you to start watching my YouTube video so that you can start to lose this weight while waiting for your thyroid labs to come back. Julie, if you love vegetables, then you need to watch my keto 101 series. You can eat low carb vegetables and you can lose weight. If you just love beef, butter, bacon, and eggs, watch my carnivore 101 playlist. We got to get some of this weight off you. This is super unhealthy. But you've got a large gorder. So, by definition, you are deficient in iodine. I would bet $1,000 you have either undiagn you have a reverse T3 problem, which is very likely because you're so obese. It could also be Hashimoto's. Um, I I hope that you join our PhD community because I would love followup on this once you're able to get all the labs. Also, if your doctor refuses to check the thyroid panel, you can go to a website called ownyoulabs. com. You want to type that in? — No. — Ownyoulabs. com. And you can get Dr. Barry's full thyroid panel. And there's a discount attached. You can go to drbberry. com and click on marketplace or you go to drbry. com/marketplace. If you scroll down, there's a direct link with a discount already applied to you and just click on that and it autopop populates all of the annual labs. It's the easiest way to do it. — And then when you get your full thyroid panel back from onlabs. com and it shows that you have a reverse T3 problem or Hashimoto's, you can go back and you can

take and put your and you can show that to your doctor and say, "Look, doc, you suck. I'm going to get a new doctor. Thank you. Have a good day. — Stop. — Okay. — Uh, Keto Simple, whose real name is Dustin, who asked a really good question about don't men also have these problems. He I just want to shout out because he is a recent graduate — from the PhD Health Coach Academy and obviously he's doing amazing things, asking good questions, continuing his education. Uh but for those few of you who asked when we were accepting new students, you can go to the website phdalthcoachacademy. com. It's in the description. Uh and you can check out all the — in the comments. Oh, is it down here, too? — It's in both. — Oh, Nisha fixed it. Thank you for that. — Oh, you're so welcome. — So, if you if you've been helping friends and family get healthier, but you'd like to be a certified PhD health coach, that's now an option. We're accepting new people for our second class. Already graduated the first and so, uh, we would love to have you in there and get you a certification. — Yes. So, you go to the website and it's got all the details. There's an FAQ section about the program, how to apply, and if you have any questions, we also have an email that you can send an email to. And yeah, we just graduated our first class, and they're all doing amazing so far. We have high hopes for them. And like you can see Dustin and there was another one in here as well. But yeah, there's a wait list at the bottom. You can enter your name and your email address and we'll let you know when the doors open, which will be in May. But get on the wait list so you don't miss out because we only have open doors for a two weeks. So that's it. — Perfect. I love it. So become a certified PhD health coach. So, I want everybody to take a screenshot because I guarantee you've got a friend or a family member who has the classic symptoms of low thyroid or Hashimoto's and their doctor has not checked these. So, take a screenshot and send it to them and say, "Hey, tell your doctor to check these labs. " Super important. Here's Marie watching the very first The Devil Wears Prada. This is one of her favorite movies of all time. for them to lose weight in this movie. They were not allowed to eat carbs and they ate steak 20 years ago. — The scene where she's in the hospital and she's like, "For God's sake, cuz she gets to go to Paris. " Yeah. One of my favorite movies, but I often quote that movie because they're dieting. They're very — and when she feels like she's going to pass out, she eats a Cuba cheese. — Very toxic set of diets. — We don't recommend that style, but it is funny to see that kind of — 100%. Yes. Yeah. And it this has been known for a long time. This is not some new thing. If you want to lose fat, you cut the carbs. RM guest. Uh this is fully laden swaddle. How Howdy. Just saw Mary Bowden on Jay Door. She uh Jimmy Door. She uh started a petition to repeal 1986 vax injury law. Okay. If I post the link in the chat. Thanks as always. — It probably won't let you. — It's fine with me, but it may not let you. — Give it a try. — Yeah. But definitely um uh shoot it to me on my Facebook and I will see that it gets out there. — Like you look so skinny face. — One stomach flew away from my goal weight. — I don't recommend that. Yeah. Notoriously sue. Finally got an endocrine appointment on the 15th. T3 was low. Uh, reverse T3 was a little high. TPO also a little high. So, you definitely have a reverse T3 problem and you have Hashimoto's, but fit in normal barely. Don't trust Indo. I have no hope. You need to find another doctor. Uh, two things. Let me tell you two things. First of all, you would think that endocrinologists would know everything I've been talking about this evening. They do not. Most endocrinologists do not believe that reverse T3 is relevant at all. Most of them don't even check the thyroid antibodies. Uh it is a big problem in medicine. There's a few endocrinologists who are coming around but not many. Okay. And then number two, the number two thing I was going to say Nisha, what was the number two thing? I forgot. It'll come to me in a minute. — With the bell poop, — chicken lips. That's our kids' favorite saying right now is chicken lips. Oh goodness. Uh, someone asked, "Ground pork is cheap and good. Is that okay to eat? " — 100%. Yes. Beef, butter, bacon, and eggs. Bacon is pork. Uh, Kelly says, "What if we don't have money and desperately need help? Can you please answer some questions? I'm so ill. " So, Kelly, instead of saying this, you should have asked me your question. — question and I could have answered. — Also, we have, like I said, PhD coaches in the chat. Uh, Coach Alyssa's in here. She's got the little blue shield. I think I need to knight Dustin. Don't

you think? — I think so. I think Dustin needs to be — Dustin. You want to be a moderator, Dustin? I think Yeah, I think he wants it or not. — Guess what? Chicken butt. Yeah, they used We used to say that. Now it's chicken lip. — Still say chicken butt. I think Alyssa's gonna have to do it. — Yeah, — Dustin, if you want to do that, let Alyssa know. We'll do that. — Now, Dena has got a great point. You would think OBGYn's female specialists would know hormones, but they don't. And this is so true. The only — Listen, we know estrogen. — We don't mean all. We need most, but a lot of them. Yes. — All they know is estrogen. That's it. They don't know testosterone. Few of them know progesterone. Definitely. They don't know the thyroid hormones. — But they're taught very certain, especially OBGYN. Like they do surgery a lot and they like it. — I've worked with many OBGYNS and they're wonderful and I loved them all. But if I ever had question like when I was going through fertility uh treatments, I was working in labor and delivery with these amazing doctors and midwives and they did not know anything about what I was being put through and any of that. And you would think that would coincide with them and their profession. It just doesn't. — It doesn't at all. They're just not trained in it. Therefore, they're not comfortable in it. Because when most doctors when they finish residency, they that's when they finish learning. Then they just practice the rest of their career on what they were taught. Uh Pamela says, "How much lugall's iodine 2% do I need per day? Somewhere between one and five drops a day? " It depends. Uh this is a question we take very commonly in our PhD community. Uh because I can ask you more questions. We can do back and forth and then I can say, "Oh, family, you need three drops a day or whatever. " Uh but I it's hard for me to know without knowing more about your story. — It depends. Yes. Exactly. Uh, USMCPD, how dangerous is a CAC score test as far as increasing your risk of getting cancer? — Good question. — Valid question. Um, a CAC scan, which is a CAT scan. — It's super fast, just a few seconds long, and it gives you a little bit more radiation than just a standard chest X-ray or a standard mamogram. It's not a lot like it used to be. Uh, but it's still a val valid question. But I think for most people, the value of getting your CAC score checked outweighs the risks of the radiation. Uh — Alyssa said, I love how you think I know how to do that. I'll show you. — Elvis says, "What what are normal levels of antibodies? " It depends. Uh it's different for different reference labs. So if you get it from lab core, it's different than if you get it at Quest because of the way they do the testing. And so it'll actually tell on your lab result on your app or on your lab sheet. It'll tell you what the normal range is and then it'll tell you what yours is. — 15 more minutes, y'all. I'm going to do a live this week, I think, because I like to talk about fun stuff. Not that I'm not having fun with you guys. I love you very much, but I want to tell you about what's going on the farm and something to do with the peacocks that are standing out. You know what I mean? And I don't want to waste y'all some. So I'm not going to interrupt him, but just know that I would rather be talking about the peac. — We think one of our pens do it. Go answer questions. — Well, there's a secret about one of our pee hands. — You can join my YouTube. — Yes. Okay. Karen says, "Why would I have blood and ketones in my urine? " So there's multiple reasons, all of which you should see your doctor for. — Hey, pay me your phone. — Okay. Um, I haven't started keto yet and changed my diet. Yeah. So, you need to see your doctor and get this figured out. Uh, ketones can be in your urine for multiple different reasons. One of which is being in ketosis, which is super healthy, but there are some disease states that can put ketones in your urine as well. Uh, blood in your urine is never normal. Okay? So, you need to go see your doctor and figure out what's going on. Could be your bladder, could be your kidneys, your urer. Uh, you may have a stone way up in there that's not hurting. There's any number of things that could be causing this. Uh Serena says, "Why don't they test for T3 and the reverse T3? They just don't know better. They're not taught. " What we're taught in medical school is you check a TSH for sure and that's it. Then some docs are like, "Yeah, that doesn't seem like enough. So, I'm going to check a TSH and a T4 or a free T4. " And that's surely enough. But it's just not. But that's how they're taught. And so most doctors are very riskaverse. They're like, "Yeah, nobody else is checking that. I don't know what to do with my hands. I don't know. I feel like I shouldn't check that. That's not how you practice medicine. How's the house coming along? Retired. — We will also talk about that on my YouTube channel. I don't want to waste time because people want their questions answered and y'all get mad at me when I go spap. So

— uh, let me see if — also congratulations Dustin. Yeah, here's a interesting question and I'll tell you I think honestly for the for most people this is not an issue. Uh what are the most gortenic vegetables, foods and drinks? So gortrogenic means it could tend to make you have a gorder and the way some of the of these vegetables do this is they block the iodine so you can't absorb it. So the most common vegetables that do this are the brasacas, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, broccoli, asparagus. These are the the most notorious. Uh but it's super hard to eat enough cruciferous vegetables to cause this problem. I read a case report of a lady in Asia that she was eating I forget if it was Brussels sprouts or broccoli. She was eating seven pounds a day. — She likes broccoli. — Yeah. Well, I think that's all she had. — Oh, well, what are you? — Right. But she developed iodine deficiency and a big gorder because she was eating so much fried. — That's just a different form of malnutrition. There's all kinds of malnutrition. — 100%. I totally agree. So, I think the vast majority of people maybe some people are more sensitive to it than others, but for most people, this is not the problem you want to focus on. — Uh, get this one right here. Is there an endo in Nashville or Clarksville? I can trust uh I don't know specifically of Indo, but the nurse practitioner Dr. Barry works with Amanda uh whose last name is Decker. She's NP and she's in Dixon, which is a little outside of Nashville, not very far at all. And she — 20 minutes 30 — with traffic 30 these days. Nashville is crazy. Uh but she could definitely help you and — everything I've talked about tonight, Amanda Decker knows, — right? — Yes. — Yeah, absolutely. — She's very proper human diet found. She does lives with us inside the group all the time. If you're in there, you — Her website is — clear pathmed medical. net. — Okay. Clear pathmed medical all one word. net. — That's her website. And she's licensed in 25 or 26 states. — She does help tell. — So she can do tellahalth with you. — She's got health coaches that work with her. So you see her and then you have follow-ups with health coaches. Um she's got she's amazing and wonderful. Yes, absolutely. Uh oh, Jennifer, well, wait here. Here we go. No, I haven't seen her in here. Jennifer says, "How do you find a carniv carnivore friendly doctor? " Nisha and I have a strong opinion. — We do. It's unpopular — about this. And you're it's going to surprise you because you're going to be like, "That's not what I was asking. " — In fact, Amanda gets mad at us for saying, — "Yeah. " So, here's my opinion and Nisha's opinion is you don't need a carnivore doctor. You need to know how to talk to your doctor and have a doctor that is a health partner and not a do what I say. I don't want to talk to you. Just get out of my office. Here's a prescription. And so that doesn't necessarily mean you need a carnivore doctor. It means you need a good doctor. And there are lots of good doctors. Uh but you can also use a health coach to help bridge that gap. specifically one that works with uh you know a physician or a practitioner like Amanda's health coaches you know they work together as a team and I think more and more health coaches are going to be in practices because it bridges that gap between the doctor being very busy and needing to move on and the patient getting left on the doorstep not knowing what to do from there. But I know a way that you can ask a keto friendly doctor or a carnivore friendly doctor your questions about diets and about medicine. It will not be a medical consult. This doctor will not be your doctor. Uh but you can join our community. Look, I fixed it. — Thank god. — So this is a website, but all you have to type in is phdalth. com community and it'll take you straight to our community. — Doesn't this look much more like a website? for the price of a copay and for many of you less than a price of a c-ay you can join our community monthly and I do four hours of live Q& A like this every week and so you can ask me a question then ask me another one and instead of 2700 people asking questions — there's usually 200 tops — 200 tops and so I'm able to answer three or four of your questions during each session — so he does lives in there on Wednesday y — and Saturday and he does them at a morning time and afternoon. So, no matter the time zone and if you're in the plus level, so we have community level and community plus level, that is where you pay the sign price that you would monthly, but you pay it all up front. You get access to what our people in the community are now calling Barrybot, but I like to call it Dr. Barry's health companion. — And it's basically an AI model that's trained on every single one of my videos. Yeah. It'll be trained on this video after this video is done. It'll

get trained on this. It's trained on Common Sense Labs. It's trained on Lies My Doctor Told Me. It's trained on Kicking Ass. Those are my three books. — Do you have Dr. Barry in your pocket 247? Uh, a lot of the people that do live streams, used to do live streams, don't come to live streams anymore because they're using the AI. The AI has made workout programs for some people. It's made meal plans. Uh, it's given It's not medical advice, okay? And it says that on the screen and it's not Dr. Barry. — It can help you with macros if you're brand new to keto and you're like fat, protein, carbs. It can help you with all that at 3:30 in the morning when I'm in bed asleep. — Yeah. And so when you come into the community, you don't have to send super chats. You just show up. It's included with your monthly membership. And for $30 a month, you get four a week. Yep. If you're in the plus, three a week community level. So that's how many? Three. What's three times four? 12 — 12 12 — 12 hours of Dr. Barry a live. — Yep. — Or you can just come back here on Monday Night Live and hang out with us. That's okay, too. — That's right. Let me see if I can find another good — one more question and then — Yeah, here's a another This is uh Shannondoa. — Love that. — Uh I've heard that tea is also grogenic. it minimally. Maybe if you were drinking three or four gallons of very strong tea a day, maybe uh I have a second biopsy on my thyroid nodule to determine if it's cancerous. So, if you have a thyroid nodule, you've got to go to endocrinology, but in the process, you can be taking your iodine supplement or eating the iodine rich foods that I've got a YouTube video about. — Uh the link to the community is in the description, too. So if you missed what he put on the screen, it's you just click on the link. — Just click it. Let me see. — I die near the sea is great. Yeah. Unfortunately, many of us are landlocked. — Here's a tribe member right here. Being in the community has been life-changing for both my husband and me. Worth every penny. Thank you so much. — Saying that Thank you. Yeah. And that's I mean, we literally go out of our way. We're sitting here at least once a day going, "How can we how can we provide more value? What can we do? Who can we get to go live in there? " Because we have Chris Cooking Nashville is a tribe member. — By the way, — you can pre-order his cookbook now on Amazon. He officially made the announcement. Now we can talk about it. So, if you want to cook carnivore, but no one know that it's carnivore, you want this book. I promise. But until the book comes out, go watch his videos. But in the group, he does cooking demos. He does Q& A with his wife Ash, and he's just a supportive member of the group. We also have Amanda Decker, the nurse practitioner. We have um registered dietician Michelle Hearn. She comes in and hangs out with us. And you never know who's going to pop in. We have surprise guests all the time. And also yours truly. And also, can we give a round of applause to Coach Alyssa who um has helped me not lose my mind. — Yes. Thank you, Coach. — I know what I would do without — You're the best. you are the best. Now, Velma's got a very important question that a lot of people they believe the wrong thing about this because they've heard some influencer out there say, "Oh, you don't have to take iodine. You can just rub it on your skin and it'll No, this is — they say it like that. — Just rub it on your skin. This is dumb. " Okay? You have this thing called a stratum corneium on your skin. Look it up. You can't just absorb most things through your skin. In order for a doctor to make a medicine be able to be absorbed through your skin, we have to attach it to liposomaal stuff. We have to use all kinds of chemicals to make it go through your skin. Just rubbing iodine on your skin will is not a good test. If you're iodine deficient, it's also not a good way to get the iodine that your body needs. If this worked, you can just go swimming in the ocean and you get all the iodine you need. — Rush. — What did rush do? puts the lotion on the skin. — You stop it. — Yeah. Okay. One more. That's a good one. What test do we request to see if we're low in iodine? Ah, here's the rub. There's not a single blood test in the world that gives you a reliable answer. I have researched this and studied this for many, many hours. There's just no test for blood that you can test. Uh if you have a 24-hour urine for iodine, that's a particular test. You collect urine for 24 hours. — You have to take a loading dose of iodine and a little tablet. — Yes. And then that gives you a pretty good idea. But it's still not the answer that we're looking for. And that's because your body sequesters iodine in your thyroid, but also in your breast tissue. Men and women both have breasts issue — and in your salivary glands. And so you don't know without doing a salivary gland biopsy.

— We're not doing — a thyroid biopsy and a breast tissue biopsy. You won't know if you're sufficient in iodine. Now, the last thing I'll tell you is if you have normal kidney function, if you take a little bit too much iodine, guess what you're going to do? — Pee it out. — Pe it out. — As long as you are not you don't have some weird condition, — it's not a big deal. You're just going to pee it out. So, a lot of people are scared to death to take iodine because they remember the methylator I Iota form that their granny used to put on cuts had a skull and crossbone on it. That's not what you're taking if you get lugos 2% or something like that. Okay. — Okay. I'm out of here because the sun is about to go down and I want a few more. — She wants to go to her garden — on my skin. If you guys if you did not get enough tonight, please come to phdalthnot. com community. — Take a screenshot. — Linked in the description. — And it's I'll be live again Wednesday at 4 pm central. — Wednesday at 4 and — then at 6 again — and Saturday at 10 and 11. — 11. That's right. So four hours you can ask me every question you didn't get answered tonight. So no complaining. Just join the PhD community and I'll answer all your questions or we'll see you next Monday