I tried zone 2 training for 30 days (what I learned)

If you want to live a long life, health experts recommend you get 150 minutes of zone two training per week. And for the past 38 years of my life, I've done approximately zero minutes. — [sighs and gasps] — Oh god, just give me a minute. Some call it hype, the new 10,000 steps, jogging rebranded, a complete waste of time. Others [snorts] call it one of the foundational principles for longevity and health. There's no question that discussions around the importance of zone two training have exploded over the past few years. Zone two. Zone two. Zone two training. If you missed it, zone two is a low to moderate intensity cardio effort where you're working hard enough to raise your heart rate, but not so much that you can't hold a conversation. It's roughly 60 to 70% of your max heart rate. So, if your max heart rate is 190 beats per minute, zone two is between 114 and 133 beats per minute. So, I'm in zone two right now. My heart rate is 140 beats per minute. You can have a conversation, but it is winded. Does zone two training unlock the secrets to a long life and optimal performance, or is it just another self-development trend? Let's find out. I think your Huberman is wrong. He was wrong. This video is sponsored by Squarespace. I'll share more about how they helped me build all my websites later. One of the biggest surprises after just one day of zone two training has been how slow the pace really is when jogging. I almost have to hold myself back, remind myself not to go too fast. I think that is the appeal of zone two. It's that it's not this really intense cardio workout. It's not SoulCycle or a hit program or any one of these things that leave you feeling destroyed at the end of the day. And so, if you're able to get the health benefits of cardio without killing yourself every single day, I see the appeal. — So, I'm starting out just doing 10 minutes of zone two per training session, but my goal is that by the end of the month, I would have averaged about 150 minutes of zone two training per week. This is what that means, eventually I'm going to have to start picking it up. Zone two has become a staple in health circles because it supposedly helps improve your aerobic base, boost your metabolic health, and strengthen your heart. But, it's not so intense that it gets you injured or kills your recovery. Oh god, I feel like my lungs on fire. According to one of the world's leading experts in zone two training, Dr. Peter Attia, one of the biggest fact Sorry, what's that? There are over 1,700 mentions of Peter Attia in the Epstein files. I mean, I'm sure that's just some kind of misunderstanding. He refers to women's genitals as low-carb. Oh yeah, that doesn't sound very good. Here's another email he sent to Epstein. I would really love to add five years or more to your life, even if the only reason to do so is to have more sex. He also wrote to Epstein's assistant, I go into JE withdrawal when I don't see him. — [sighs and gasps] — He had been meeting with Epstein while his son, who had just been born, was in the ICU. This is not going to be good for the zone two movement. As I looked more into the health benefits of zone two and tried to avoid any of Peter Attia, which was honestly quite difficult, I realized the story is a little more complicated than I thought. A pretty damning analysis on zone two training was just published, and it concluded that the current evidence does not support zone two training as optimal intensity for improving mitochondrial or fatty acid oxidative capacity. A 2025 review, brilliantly titled Much Ado About Zone Two, argued that a lot of the hype around zone two comes from studying elite athletes. But, that might not be the best group to study when applying the lessons to the general population. The authors raise two worries about this type of thinking. First, elite athletes, they also incorporate some high-intensity exercise, so it isn't clear that their low or high-intensity training is more important for the benefits that we're interested in here when it comes to our own health. And the second worry is that most of us aren't elite athletes. So, those elite athletes, they might be training for over 20 hours a week, while many of us, we struggle to fit in two hours a week. That difference has a huge impact in terms of the type of exercise strategies that make the most sense to maximize our gains. That's not to say zone two is a waste of time or isn't effective. It's just that if you don't have a lot of time, high-intensity training is probably a more efficient way to get the health benefits. But, there are perfectly good reasons to keep training in zone two if it helps you stay consistent, avoid injury, or if you simply enjoy it more than high-intensity training. The exercise that you keep doing is more important than finding the technically optimal one. And since I've avoided cardio my entire life, zone two has been a great way to introduce it into my daily routine. So, I have found that jogging, specifically outside, has been quite challenging in terms of staying in zone two consistently. It's easy to get distracted, and there are stops, turns, and hills that make it difficult to keep a steady pace. So, to try to be more consistent, I decided to bring my cardio onto the treadmill. Instead of jogging, I increased the incline and aimed for more of a brisk walk so I could keep my heart rate in zone two the entire time. It ended up basically being that awkward place between walking and jogging where it looks like you're rushing home so you

don't your pants. So, you guys might have noticed something about self-development content lately. It's getting more and more extreme, and I'm trying to push back against that trend. That's why this year, with all the 30-day experiments I'm doing, I'm trying to make small, meaningful progress forward. I'm trying to do things that are actually sustainable for my life as a busy dad. While that might not get the most views, to me it feels the best. And so, if you want to help support the work that I'm doing, one of the best ways that you can do that is to hit subscribe — and turn on notifications on this video. Thanks so much for considering. Hey, how's it going? Hi, I'm Matt, yeah. Nice to meet you. Have you guys seen the place yet? No. So, this is our main little gym area. So, couple different treatment rooms, main little rehab gym space. That's the treadmill you're actually going to be completing your VO2 max on. It's staring at you, and it's in your face. I decided to go to a performance center to get a physical assessment. I'm working with Everlab and their partner facility, Power Potential. Everlab is a performance testing and longevity company based in Australia. Full disclosure, I told them about the video that I was making, and they set me up on their platform for free. Just one of the many perks of being a YouTuber. Today, they're running me through a battery of tests, including a DEXA scan. Main purpose of today from this machine, full body composition scan, identifying fat mass, muscle mass, and full bone density. They measured my grip strength. Push, push, push, push, and relax. Hold on, best one yet. — Vertical jump. Uh 40. 2 cm jump height. — Apparently, I have really good balance. Best single leg balance I've seen with eyes closed. Really? — Yeah. Holy Very, very good. Wow, thank you. I think that's all the karate that I did when I was in high school. I can see it. But, the big things that I'm looking to walk away with for the purposes of this 30-day experiment is my max heart rate to better determine my zone two range and my VO2 max to better understand my cardiovascular health. Your actual cardiovascular fitness. So, it's how efficiently your body is um consuming and supplying those muscles, the working muscles, with oxygen. Higher VO2 max levels have been strongly linked to better long-term health outcomes. Is the VO2 max like is like intense? Uh no, it starts off quite easy, and then it sort of ramps up to that point where you either can't keep up with the treadmill or you physically can't keep up yourself, yeah. You fall off, and then you're like, okay, this test is over. — Exactly, exactly. Feeling good? Yep. All right. And at 5. 5. And up in incline. Going up. — [snorts] — Time. Good, well done. Catch your breath, catch your breath. Well done. Nice, deep breaths, that's it. VO2 max 43. 2. So, honestly, not a bad score. You said you were training about 122 129 for a heart rate for a zone two. You should be between 138 and 145. — little bit more. Yeah, definitely. So, actually see some sort of fat burning change in terms of that zone two. Equipped with a more accurate zone two range, I was ready to get back to training. Okay, maybe after a day's rest. Holy that was crazy. Oh my god. So, I haven't been as consistent as I would like, especially in the first two weeks of doing zone two. I've really just been struggling to find the time to train. And so, I've been trying to think of ways to make it more effortless. That's our Peloton that has completely taken over our sunroom. The Peloton made a lot of sense for us because Nat really loves the studio cycling classes, and that's something that they do exceptionally well. For me, personally, it's a little bit overkill. Life with two kids is a little bit busy these days. I've got less time than ever before. So, being able to fit in workouts after my kids go to bed, or even during the weekend when the timing works out, has just been so helpful. So, Nat's watching both the kids right now, squeezing in hopefully an hour session. Then, I'll give her an hour break. Let's go. Since getting the bike, my training sessions started to get longer and more consistent, and I was getting closer and closer to my goal of hitting 150 minutes per week on average. So, my total training volume per day has increased a bit over time. So, now I'm at the point where I'm doing 45-minute training sessions each time I work out. Now, I'm getting to the point where, while it's not entirely enjoyable, I am finding it less painful to hit that 45-minute goal. This video is sponsored by Squarespace. I've been using Squarespace for over 15 years, much longer than they've been a sponsor on my channel. 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