Why Hasn't Anyone Gone to Jail for the $160 Billion DOGE Found?

Didn't we kind of do this with Doge? Hear Elon talk about fraud, he knows it cuz he was part of that battle. Whoever squeals the loudest, that's because you're turning off their fraud. But there was so much push back. The problem is if you go to the Senate and try to get the votes for that, you need 60 votes. You can't get it because the Democrats won't vote against funding this stuff. We should use the NOS's for our objectives. We're in the generation that wants to fight. These old Republicans, man, they don't know how to fight. — Palunteer that's getting into corruption, waste, fraud, all that kind of [ __ ] right? I mean, this is a core of the DNA since we started Palanteer. You saw PayPal back in the day before Palanteer existed. The Chinese and Russian mafia were stealing all our money, right? That was the big thing. And if you hear Elon talk about fraud, he knows it cuz he was part of that battle. He was part of that battle to stop that. And he said like, you know, whoever squeals the loudest, that's because you're turning off their fraud. Like I remember Peter was at chess club with some Russian guy who was pissed and he was scream yelling and who was complaining and it's because Peter was like turning off all of his fraud at work right because he was tied to these mafia guys. So it's like yes this is like core like Palanteer when it was first built we came out of that experience of understanding how to do data investigations based on fraud and yeah Palanteer is working right now with the SBA with Kelly Leler who's doing administrator Leler is doing amazing job there tons of stuff and HUD I mean HUD is just like level one ground level for fraud right just like paying off NOS's for get out the vote purposes paying off people in the community basically in the inner cities it's just a lot of nonsense that you're finding and the question is [ __ ] Tons of fraud. I mean, I had Nick Shirley come on and talk about all the fraud going on. — He's done a great job exposing a lot of stuff, — you know, with the Somali the what the — I mean, these tribes are so good. — These the lingering centers, I love it. These tribes are so good at cuz they coordinate cuz like you couldn't get unfortunately in Europe, you get like a tribe of these, you know, Islamists from wherever, like 15 of them to go rape the teacher together and not tell anyone. Like if you ask 15 of my cousins to go rape a teacher, they'd all like punch you in the face. And like there's no way they'd all go do something like that. But these man, these tribes from these places are sick and we've brought them into this country. There's a lot of broken tribes here unfortunately. I mean, and yeah, there's tons of fraud tied to subcultures around LA that we're finding. It's really it's really unfortunate. We got to turn all this stuff off. — So, I mean my question I mean I got you guys are going over I keep saying you guys palent co era PPP fraud. Palanteer is now helping small business administration investigate fraud. Uh you mentioned the HUD minority contracting abuse. Biden nearly tripled the size of the program. — Uh most contracts were no bid awarded. So anyways, I mean this kind of sounds Didn't we kind of do this with Doge and it didn't — Well, Doge turned off $160 billion of stuff. It's not nothing. It's pretty good stuff. — No, no. I'm not saying it's not nothing. I'm saying — we all wanted a lot to go. — There's a lot more to find. — There's a whole distance, but there was so much [ __ ] push back. — Yeah. And it was like complicated. I think listen I think when Doge first started like listen I mean I was there at Mara Lago briefly and with Elon and VC and others and they were interviewing people to become uh the secretaries, right? Because Trump had him helping with transition and so Doge right from the start was kind of like tied to the boss and tied to the president and I think there I think there had to be a cultural change with how it worked with the agencies and worked with the leadership in ways they'd be okay with it. But a lot of the best people did go into these agencies and keep working. And it's not like it went away fully, right? All the cultures there uh are still in a lot of these places and going and I love that. Listen, the president's put the vice president in charge of this, right? And he's and I saw him recently. He says this is a big objective of his. He's working hard on it. Um and a lot of the griff that comes from fraud, Sean, is how uh the Democratic Party funds its allies. This is just this is just the truth. This is how the Democratic Party funds its friends and allies. It's very good at it, right? We caught huge amounts of money going to these things that go to get out the vote for the left. There's and there's hundreds of nonprofits in New York State recently came out that are funding get out the vote. They're funding candidates, right? And so these people will have political power. They'll get money for the NOS's. They get money for their businesses with Medicaid or whatever else and they'll give it right back. It's a political large S. They give it right back to people benefiting them and they get more and there's and it's huge amounts of money. So this is why unfortunately a lot of the left is not on our team for getting rid of fraud because it's funding so many of the people who vote for them and who support them and this is a huge issue for us to go after much harder. We got to turn it off. — Sheesh. I mean do you think this has this started? — Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Listen, they're finding a bunch of stuff with administrator Leler and the SBA. They just announced a bunch of stuff in HUD a couple few weeks ago that they're finding. There's just all stuff and we're turning it off. And you said the right thing that's also really getting me really annoyed is we should be doing more prosecutions. We should be putting more people in jail because you're finding stuff. It's very clearly fraud and you're turning it off and we are not prosecuting. And I think the people running the DOJ are not nearly as competent as they need to be. I'll just put it out there. — How the [ __ ] is this going to change? — We got to get more competent people who whose job is to actually initiate and

and put people in jail for breaking the law. — How do we do that? — You put out the word to hire really competent lawyers. I don't know. Like I've built orgs. You've built orgs. It's like I mean I'm — I know what I would do but nobody's doing it. — What would you do? — I would [ __ ] fire everybody and bring it. — You place some new leadership. That seems reasonable to me at this point. Listen, by the way, some leadership's really good in some of these places and they are working well with us and like Leler's doing great work. Like there's people in the Department of War doing I think great work. Like we better not you agree with the war. These are competent people, right? And so there's like places where we have very competent leaders that Trump President Trump's brought in and there's places where for whatever reason I can't tell they're not getting it done. So, let's let's fix it. — Yeah. Well, I hope it sticks. I really hope that sticks. — We got I mean, we got to turn this stuff off. We got to prosecute it. We got to make it sure it can't happen again. This It drives me crazy, Sean, because we have First of all, like the government shouldn't be able to give hundreds of billions to NOS's. Like, what the heck, right? That's wrong. But the problem is, if you go to the Senate and try to get the votes for that, you need 60 votes. You can't get it because the Democrats won't vote against funding this stuff. You know, you know what I think we should do here to fix that? What? We should use the NOS's for our objectives at scale. We should say, okay, we're going to be funding NOS's to help free speech in Europe. We're going to be funding NGOs's to root out the communists from all the universities around the country. We're going to be funding NOS's to go do voter anti- voter fraud in uh in the cities. We're going to be funding NOS's to look at any other NOS's to make sure they're not doing anything political. Like, these are all things we could do and the left would hate it. And you know what? We might get the votes to turn off NGO funding if we actually use them for something on our team. I don't know. just just to throw it out there, you know? Like why not be a little more aggressive? You're we're in the generation that wants to fight. These old Republicans, man, they don't know how to fight. — Yeah, I think we've all figured that out. — We all figured it out. Like come on, guys. Like we need to actually fight and win. Like cuz there's stuff we're totally align on here, but we got to be fighting. Why don't we have fighters? It's like there's this gentile class of like patricians presiding over some kind of decline. I don't get it. Like come on guys, let's fix it. — So what would we do? we start new NGOs's or rep — I mean my I'm in favor just turning it all off but because we can't turn it all off I would probably start new ones to bid for the money and use it for things on our side while we're in power but I'd want to design them in a way where they're going to wind down no matter what because you don't want to create a whole new class of leeches right that's always the problem — cuz I am not for having tons of leeches on our side like they have on their side they have so many leeches just make money off this nonsense there's like whole agencies that we turned off that were basically doing nothing and other than fraud and corruption. And so we don't want that. I don't want that's not our side, but we should be fighting back and we should be doing whatever we can to get them to be forced to turn these off. That's my view. Makes It does make sense. No matter where you're watching the Shan Ryan Show from, if you get anything out of this at all, anything, please like, comment, and subscribe. And most importantly, share this everywhere you possibly can. And if you're feeling extra generous, head to Apple Podcast and Spotify and leave us a review.