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What is up everybody? Happy Friday and welcome to the WAN show. We're back at you geekier than ever. — Yeah. — Sexy, right? — Yeah. — And we've got some good news today. Windows 11 is getting a speed boost and for some reason they're getting user backlash about this. Um, no, please do make Windows faster. definitely appreciate that. I mean, how else are they going to compete with Google Books? — Oh, that the AI sequels to Chromebooks. We don't know a ton about these yet, but they were a huge focus for Google at their recent Android event earlier this week. We'll be talking a little bit about those and some, maybe you're going to be mad at me, but some AI features of Aluminium OS that I am legitimately — Oh, no. stoked for. — There's one that's really cool. We'll see if we have the same opinion. Uh, Linux gains more critical Windows apps. Very important. 3D Movie Maker and Space Cadet Pinball. Those are I mean they're not on Windows now. — Absolute App Cinema. — Just another dub. Uh, and also I don't know. Uh, this one I think is funny. I don't know if it's good news, but it's funny. Amazon employees are token maxing due to pressure to use AI tools. It's a It's actually It's funny. It's a funny topic. The show is brought to you today by AMD, Cape, Motion Gray, and XSplit, along with our rep partner Dbrand, our laptop partner, Razer, and our chair partner also Razer. Why don't we jump right into our headline topic today, which is that Windows 11 is getting a speed boost. Microsoft is testing a new Windows 11 feature called low latency profile that temporarily increases CPU clock speeds in very short bursts to speed up things like the start menu, app launches, and other UI interactions, mimicking how Mac OS handles responsiveness and for that matter also Android and iOS and basically any other modern operating. I didn't realize Windows wasn't already doing this. Windows Central testing showed up to 40% faster launch times for Microsoft's own apps like Outlook, The Store, Paint, and File Explorer, and up to 70% faster launch times for the Start menu, and Context menus. The feature has drawn community backlash with people accusing Microsoft of cheating and using a band-aid solution instead of addressing underlying Windows performance issues. — I think they can do both. Um, Scott Hansselman, VP for Core AI GitHub and Windows, defended this change, though, responding to several critics on Twitter, noting that your smartphone already does this. You've discovered dynamic frequency scaling. Mac and Linux do this already, and you guys aren't complaining. This is probably the most blatant transparent admission that Microsoft is like a decade behind that I have ever seen from a Microsoft VP. — It's like, — "Hey guys, we were just doing the thing that everybody else completely lapped us on the track doing. — Sorry. " And he's 100% right. There should be zero backlash for Microsoft doing this. There should just be Yay. — Especially considering it's a profile. So it sounds like you can turn it off if you want. — This is like when my kid is running like the 800 meter and she's like the last one to cross the line like you know. Yeah, you got there. And to be clear actually that is not how it went down by the way. Uh so congrats to my youngest for actually uh qualifying for the next stage. But anyway, but the point is just that um this is a good thing. — With that said, — yeah, they do still have other work to do. I yeah, there's some validity to Microsoft needing to clean up their house — because just cranking my CPU in order to make up for your in a lot of cases fairly garbage decision-m over the years is not the answer, but it can be part of the answer. if you do this in order to catch
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up with other operating systems and you, you know, get rid of React Native being part of the start menu and things like that, the combination can be really good. And I don't think the order necessarily matters. I know some people are like, "Oh, you should fix those things first. " It's like, — no, you should do anything you can as soon as you can to improve the user experience as much as you can. Absolutely. And if you really think that turning up the frequency of the CPU a little bit when you launch the start menu or whatever is going to have a significant impact on the battery life of your laptop, guys, how long do you think it's actually boosting for? — Like it's it's for a fraction of a second, like a tiny fraction of a second. — Mac OS laptops known for being super efficient. — Do this like you can probably relax. And also it's described as a profile. Yeah, — that would tell me I am guessing, but that you can probably turn it off if you really care. — Um, — which you shouldn't. It should probably just be the default profile from now on. — Yeah, honestly, I would prefer they actually did that and then called the other profile like — dog profile, like — something. Yeah, — worse profile. — Extreme battery saver. — Sure, but we already have that. So, this should bundle it into that or something. This should just be in the default balanced and uh performance profiles. — Yeah. — Um — Yeah. I mean, good. — I just got a text on WhatsApp. — I bet you couldn't even tell. — No. — Yeah, we should probably we should probably talk about these. Yeah. — I Okay, so full disclosure, uh Meta sponsored uh I think it's a short. Yeah, it's a short. — Uh just talking about some of the new features. Uh, I am not on the clock right now though. Right now I'm just wearing them because Sammy came in here before the show started and asked if he could just get a shot of me wearing them on the WAN show set and I was like, "Yeah, sure. That's fine. " — Have you uploaded the short yet? — Nope. — Okay. — And then Luke and I started talking about them and I I've been using them for about a week now and there's a lot of stuff that is I got to be honest with you uh pretty cool. Um, I showed Luke the display before the show started and I've actually uh my neural band uh so the bracelet that you wear that kind of keeps track of which fingers you're tapping and lets you like swipe you swipe through the menu like this and then you can like write texts like this. You can also dictate to it. Um — weird. — Yeah, it's super funky. So, you wake the device by doubletapping here and then you say yes with this, no with this, and it can tell the difference between those. Um, — it's pretty cool. — As far as my understanding goes, there's ones coming from Apple and Google and uh actually a really wide variety of other manufacturers as well. — Tell me this, — Samsung. Tell me this. If you had to put the various smart glasses brands — into Good Boy brand and Timeout brand, which smart glasses would you consider wearing? — You want — I want I want the honest answer. — I don't know if this is going to sound surprising to you or not. — I going to type it because I already know what you're going to say. Like it's so Oh, you're so predictable. Okay, hit me. — Apple. — Yeah, — of course. — Yeah. — And man, Apple's a company that I have a complicated relationship with because on the one hand, they um definitely have in order to access the Chinese market have absolutely compromised their user privacy. Absolutely. I mean, is a Chinese Apple user like less worthy of Apple's promises with respect to their data safety than a Western one? I don't really if that's your corporate promise, then I don't really see why there would be a difference there. And if there is a difference there, then I don't really think you get to stand there and beat the drum about how amazing you are with respect to user privacy, — depending on where your lines are. But on the other hand, right, and oh, and then there's Apple being an obstacle for years and years with respect to support for RCS encrypted messages across platform because it would disincentivize people to stay locked into the iOS walled garden. It's like they're highly financially motivated to just walk away from user privacy whenever it's not convenient for them. — Ability is often really trash as well. However, they also have gone to bat. — Yes. — For their users. — Yeah. — When it's more convenient. So, if there was someone that I was that I also was
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going to I'm not going to use the T word. say trust. — No. Yeah. — I'll use the other T-word. If there was someone I was going to tolerate. — Yeah. Apple does seem like a an okayish better maybe bet. — I'm not really stoked on strapping Meta or Google or anything else to my face with visual and audio inputs like Oh, you're doing — I'm not actually recording you right now cuz my neural band battery is dead. But — I just Yeah, I don't know. But I have always thought like Hey, there you go. Oh, I guess you can do is there physical button picture? Yeah, I So it also — squeeze the frame or is there a button? — It al there's a button. So it also supports um not the neural band, — but the like beta firmware that I have is neural band only. So I'm — I wonder if you can — I'm recording you right now. — Wonder if you can cut off that little LED. — Uh so if you cover it uh which side's it on again? This side, right? — Yeah. So, if you cover it, um, it'll get mad at you and it will stop recording from what I've heard. I've never actually tried to cover it because I haven't used them in public much yet. I've used them um on the court though, so I was hanging out with um like a former junior national player and he was really excited about these cuz he's trying to grow his social media presence and so I was like, "Oh yeah, I'm going to get some like POV footage of training with you. " And Jaden's like, "Oh, yeah, that's super cool. Can you like send all that to me after? " So, you know, when everyone around you is consenting and cool with it, like, man, this is a perspective that no, there's no other way to capture like this. And it's really cool. — There's I mean, there's is Carter in full chat said, "What about the recent news that Meta is having humans watch and categorize videos without telling anyone? " Yeah. And there was also news in there that like a ton of it was accidentally recorded. Um, nudity and other various stuff. Um, and from what I've heard of various ages. Um, so like it's Yeah, there's — I — charge nuclei says orgy glasses. — I hope. Yeah. I promise you. Yeah. Um I hope you know Apple sticks to their usually pretty decent privacy guns. — Yeah. — Because from what I've rumors that I've heard and maybe these are real, I don't know. Um is they're ditching Vision Pro. — Yeah. I heard the Vision Pro team has basically — Yeah. going to glasses. — Gone all in on these because — cuz the Vision Pro had a lot of good things about it. — Oh, it did. It really did. — It was the coolest product that's ever been so irrelevant. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a cool way of saying it. Yeah. Um so like they could be really good and uh I I you know sometimes you just have to listen to people and accept what they say. And when you look at Google Meta, they're not hiding it. Just listen to them. We will take as much data as we possibly can, — use it in every way we possibly can, and sell it to absolutely everyone we possibly can for as much money as we possibly can. — Yep. I mean, they're literally advertising companies. — Yeah. Like they are it's not even saying the quiet part out loud. It's saying the really loud part as loud as they possibly can to everyone that will listen. And at a certain point, you have to be like, "Okay. " — And they're really good at it. So we traditionally have relied almost exclusively on our own videos and our own sort of social media profiles to promote LTT store for instance uh over the last it's funny we had an all hands — dude yeah this is wild — recently and uh Dave who is heading up operations or I forget what his actual job title is whatever he's uh he's definitely heading up marketing he's Dave he's kind of a beast Um, and he's been doing uh he's been spearheading marketing for LTT store offsite. So, we're doing things like influencer uh affiliate programs and things like that. Um, we've got oh, I don't know if he's passed probation yet, but we've got another really uh super smart guy who is uh who's working on that with Dave. And then Dave has been running like uh Reddit ads, meta ads. Uh, more recently we did uh Pinterest when we were promoting the leggings which sold out like crazy fast. Thank you so much for your support. We're hopefully going to be able to do like more women's styles based on that success. Um, but he during
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the all hands he had this line that really stood out to me where he's like, "Okay, how many of you in this room have seen an LTT store ad — lately? " and 2/3 — probably about — two quarters. — Yeah. — Like most of the company was like, "Yeah, and like I have I put my hand up. " — A bunch of family members of mine knew about the leggings because of ads. The leggings were one of the first times that like I got requests to get something. Usually I'll be like, "Oh, we have this cool new thing. are you interested in this? And the leggings were like multiple people were like, "Hey, I want the pockets. " — Yeah. And so, um, what we're discovering is that, uh, I forget the exact numbers, but like for every dollar that we're spending with these advertising giants, like it's something that I've always known, like obviously they're running profitable businesses, right? — Yeah. And obviously, you know, people like Ridge or Vessie or whoever like would stop giving them money if it wasn't working. — Yeah. — Right. So, obviously it's working, but this is my first time really seeing firsthand like, oh my gosh, the more we spend just like marketing with Meta or with Reddit or with Google, just like the more sales we have. And it's like I wouldn't say it's an infinite money glitch because you reached like a point of diminishing returns. — But if you have a good product, they are crazy good as we saw during the all hands at taking you know an LTT product that a techin interested person might be interested in and putting it in front of them wherever they go on the internet. It's like I don't know it everything I'm saying is like yeah duh line is common sense ever since like double click you know like back in the '9s or whatever. And it's like yeah I know that advertising is just kind of a solved thing. It's just I don't know. It's been weird to see it from the other side. — Yeah. — To experience it from the other side and go, "Oh, this is just like pouring gasoline on the fire of your business. " Um but Dude, we're — Like just everything. — I know it's Good News W show and everything, but like Yeah, it's just it's crazy because and I go right. So, right coming back to it. These are so good now. — Oh, okay. — That like people are going to wear them. So whether you choose an Apple one or like a cool open-source privacy one Yeah. framework does a glass. I mean the branding is already there. The framework frames, come on, man. — Replaceable arm things. — Sure, whatever, right? — Um or like uh or or graphine OS, you know, makes an OS for you. You might wear that one, but at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter which one you're wearing. — People around you, — it matters which one the people around you are wearing. We've already got multiple people here at the office that regardless of any sponsorship deals we do or don't do around like Meta AI glass display whatever things are just wearing them. They buy them and wear them. — We thought there was a lot of tribalism around like consoles and like PC versus Mac. — Oh dude, glasses. — The your choice of electronic compromises my personal security is going to be wild. That's going to be crazy. I never even really thought about that too much. We we're we're an Apple glasses group of friends. So — I'm sorry you don't use eyeglass message. — You have metas. — Excuse me. — You don't belong here. Um, one of the things that on the subject of like cross-platform communication is a shortcoming right now is it supports like messages, um, Instagram, WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, like it's basically all meta ecosystem stuff. But one of the things that Oh, okay. But things might change at some point. — Sorry, I don't know when we're publishing our short and I don't know if anything we're saying in it is under embargo. So, — got it. Um, but yeah, like hopefully the ecosystem will expand at some point for apps that you can use because right now they're not that useful for me dayto-day. Like I have to put them on intentfully to use them because uh maybe 90% of my textbased communication is uh teams and then another 5% is WhatsApp and then another 1% is Discord. Discord is basically just you and then — it's so astonishing to me — that no one else in my life uses it or — Yeah, cuz like I reached out to
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someone literally like last week on a different platform and they were like, "Yeah, sorry. I like really never check this. Can we jump to Discord? " And that happens to me at least once a month. Like everyone I know seems to be moving to Discord. — Okay, so above the fold. So, this is 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12. There's 12 chats here above the fold. Tell me how far back that goes. — I mean, four down and you're back a month. I wonder uh — by the time we get to 12, that's from that chat. It's hidden by the chat uh icon is from 7 months ago. So there's like a dozen people that I talk to with a frequency of twice a year. — My entire screen. — Yeah. — When you get to the very bottom one, it finally gets to two days. — Yeah. So Discord is — it's Discord. Oh man. Teams is Teams and Slack are obviously the lion's share, but like Discord is next after those ones. And Discord a bunch of Discord is work. — Do you think that's a generational gap? Like your cohort is five years younger than mine. Like — yeah because then once you go far enough down below mine I don't know if it's still Discord. It might be something else. — I have no idea but probably — but like even a lot of creators — most the vast majority of creators that I talk to is through Discord. — So nobody wants to use anything else. — We've got Lwig. — I saw a couple of them in here. Shroud, Finster, — um, Boola, Elijah, and you, I think you count. — And then the only work ones in here are, um, so not Unrade, the other thing that they're making. Hexos, that's embarrassing. Uh, Hexos, so that's the NAS software that I invested in. So, their CEO messages me on here. And then it's just like, yeah, a couple friends, uh, a couple YouTube uh, contacts. um — work ones make up at least a quarter of my within the last day. — Go figure. — Like anyway, until we get um until we until there's like more crossplatform chat, I'm going to get like a small percentage of my notifications on here anyway, which means I'm far more likely to look at my watch. Um, but I can kind of through these frames, Luke, — dude, the freaking out about Finster. — I can see the future. — Oh, to be clear, I don't So, I talked to Finster once 5 months ago basically. Um, just saying, uh, hey, it was cool that you came to visit our office. — I think people are just surprised. — Yeah. Uh, Elijah introduced me. Um, yeah. I don't I don't know very much about a lot of the people that I message, but I've heard that she's pretty cool. — Sure. — So, and I think she came up for LTX once or something. I think visiting the LT camera department something something. Oh, no. Friend met you. Uh, yeah. I don't know. I got introduced and from what I've heard, she's pretty cool. That's uh that that's all I know. I just thought it was funny seeing the chat explo. — Yeah. I And apparently very popular with our audience. — Yeah. — Yep. — Yeah. — Makes sense to me. — Uh — I'm going to take these off now. They're pretty uncomfortable with the width of the face and stuff. — The headphones. Yeah. — All right. — Is there is there any leaks with the Apple ones? — Yeah. Lots. No timelines though because they were kind of all in on the whole like VR headset that we insist is not a VR headset and that we stubbornly refuse to acknowledge the two main use cases for VR headsets. — Is this from the pressure because of the headphones? You have like big um whatever those are called. — Oh yeah. — Is that the pressure cuz the headphones or does that always happen with — No, that just always happens with them. — Wow. — They're not light. — Pretty heavy, eh? — Yeah. They're not super light, but also like I don't have nose — calluses like I don't wear glasses. — I guess you get more used to them especially when they're heavy. — Yeah. And also just people who just like wear glasses will take off their glasses and they'll have like the mark there. So I I wouldn't read too much into that. They're not uncomfortable. — Sure, sure. Um Okay. Google Book. — Oh yeah, we could do that. Google Book. — Google Book. The AI sequel to Chromebook. On Tuesday of this week, Google gave a sneak peek of the Google book, which is kind of like a Chromebook, but with more Android support and deeper integration of Gemini. Obviously, Google Books can run Android apps directly on the laptop or
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can access files and use apps from your Android phone. It's expected that Google Books will run uh Google Google's upcoming aluminum OS, — aluminium OSU OS. Uh Google didn't discuss the core hardware in the announcement, but Intel and Qualcomm have both made announcements confirming their partnership. So yeah. Okay. Uh Google VP John Mletus later told Chrome Unbox that the upcoming notebooks will ship with processors from Okay. Intel, Qualcomm, and MediaTek. — Oh, and MediaTek. Interesting. — Wireless, I'm assuming. — Uh no, no. So, okay. From my understanding, and I'm going to get some details wrong here because I don't remember and it was a while ago, but from my understanding, the whole Windows on ARM thing being Qualcomm exclusive with their Snapdragon X chips is like a timed thing. And uh that's one of the reasons that Qualcomm has been so ky around people calling it Windows on ARM. They want it called like Windows on Snapdragon uh because they want to like plant their flag in the Windows on ARM space uh before you know some of the lowerc cost chipset makers can come in and well do what they do best which is be lowerc cost chipset makers and um so while we haven't seen any meaningful traction for MediaTek on the Windows side yet yeah I can't think of any reason that a MediaTek SOC couldn't power a Google book. And so having that choice right out of the gate could be very interesting. Uh Pug Boy says, "Mediate has been in Chromebooks for years now. Nothing surprising there. " Yeah. So, um what I haven't seen though is a MediaTek chipset that would be like high performance. Do they have something new that's coming that could be more of a competitor for Snapdragon X? That I don't know. I remember I have a vague memory of maybe at some point there being like a MediaTek laptop grade chip that was going to be not like an absolute budget tier solution. So uh yeah, hit me up in chat if you guys uh if you guys know if there's if we're going to get something high performance because that would be pretty cool. — Yeah, carry on. — Google is establishing strict hardware standards across memory, storage, keyboards, and overall build quality. Google books will come in a variety of shapes and sizes from the usual hardware manufacturers of Acer, Asus, Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc. — Okay, but this is the big one. feature. This is the exciting differentiator. This is why you need a Google book. Sir, tell them the news. — Google books feature a glow bar on the exterior. We don't know what it does. looks like. We don't know anything about it. But Google says that it is both functional and beautiful. — Okay, I'm actually only sort of joking because how quickly would you get a MacBook that went back to having the glowing Apple logo on the back? — Just saying. — You would do it. — I do. — You MacBook owners, if M6 brought back the glowing logo on the back, you'd consider an upgrade. That's how Apple's going to get all the people running M1, M2 silicon to finally upgrade. You'd love to have it. You've got the glowing red dot and you love it. — Red dot is actually genuinely helpful. — You love it. — So, I can tell what my laptop's doing based on the glowing red dot. — He loves it. Here comes the glow bar. — I'm Derek says, "Holy True. " — I am actually okay with it just being a little red dot though. So, like I don't know what that means. Um, Axios writer Ena Freed, — hopefully — probably — uh called the most visible change with the Google book the magic pointer which calls up Gemini. Oh, right. — I don't know about that, but okay. Um, it's not yet clear. Okay. — When you didn't finish your sentence, Luke, you did the thing. the magic pointer which calls up Gemini anytime you wiggle the cursor and — the amount of like misprompts for that is going to be wild. But it's not yet clear what this means for the future of Chromebooks. So the wiggle the cursor thing — the amount of times that I'm just thinking and I'll like kind of shake my mouse. I have to consciously when Luke is reading the dock, I have to consciously not do this. — Yeah, exactly. — Because it interferes with him reading because I just like I just do this as I'm reading. — Well, and it's not just that it's highlighting it. It's that the man if I can. No, keep doing it. — Oh, keep doing Oh, I can do that all day. — Cuz on my screen, see how it actually says like Wancho one. — Oh, wait. My screen. Yeah, — it's the little flag. So, as I'm reading, — so that will actually like physically cover up entire words sometimes. It's
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like, yo, I like actually can't read this now. They're both doing it. They're actually moving the text around. — Yeah, Dan, you copied you pasted the text. That — is not fair. — Sorry, it's a click and drag thing. That's even worse. — Yeah, but yeah, I'll I I'll even literally just like shake my mouse. So, like the amount of times that I would unintentionally bring this thing up and then I I think it looks like it kind of like overlays your screen almost like a snipping tool kind of thing. So, like it's going to be really annoying. Um, however, there is one AI feature of Aluminium OS that is also coming to Android that I am like so freaking jazzed for. — Hold on. Hold on. — Okay. I'm trying to contain myself, Luke. myself. — Okay. — It's hard I typed it down cuz I suspect it's the same thing. — Yeah, it's the like AI widgets. — Yeah, they're actually really cool. — They look so cool. This is such a perfect application of like AI slop crap coding that nobody else is going to need. like, okay, uh, a perfect the one that I want is like a um uh like an ultimate like time zone tracker just for me. Uh, like I just want particular information like I also want maybe a little bit of like weather in there um for I like to have something in Southeast Asia like Taiwan so that I I know what's going on like I know what time zone it is for anyone that I'm corresponding with in Asia-ish. — Okay. — I like to have one in Europe so like usually I'll pick like Paris or something like that just so I know about what time it is in Europe. And then I'll do the math myself for East Coast, North America, but I'll have like a local one. And just the ones that exist are so bland and so boring. Like you can see the one I'm using now. It's just like I don't know. Here's three times. This could be so cool. Uh what if I could long press on one of the other time zones? I don't know if it's going to be able to do this, but I I can kind of I could kind of see where we're headed. Like what if I could long press on one of the time zones and then I could uh make an event on my calendar according to that time zone because I know because like creating events across time zones sucks so much. Like when I'm over in Taiwan for Computex and I want to make a note to uh remind myself the evening of the Tuesday when I'm back to go to whoever's you know band recital or whatever. I then have to do the math for what time it is now that it will be there. And if I could just like integrate like calendar and like cool stuff like that, then I'd love it. And I know we're not there yet. — Don't think you have to do that though. — Um I think under more options. — Yeah, on desktop. Sure. But I want to be able to do it quickly. — Yeah, fair enough. — Yeah. — So I think on desktop you can set your time zone, I think. — Uh yeah. So I can like I can go do that. But if I could just like long press here and basically just go, "Yeah, great. Let's go. " And like as it is now, like I can go in here and then I can set my time zone. I can do this like super tedious flow, but I want to be able to do it quickly. And that's the whole pitch of these like custom AI widgets is taking the things that you do all the time that almost nobody else does all the time and making them like one or two presses. Oh, Chef Kiss. Can't wait. So excited. if I could put it on like one of my side monitors. I I actually thought of this while we were sitting here and now I just want to do it anyways and I'm pretty sure I can. Uh but I would have something on my side monitor, not my main monitor that warns me about things that I might need to be prepared for tomorrow and it should start generating that at like — Yeah. — 5:00 p. m. — Yeah. or like — because the this the calendar is going to change all day and then at around 5 p. m. it's probably going to decently lock in and if it can let me know of like oh you have like an offsite or something. — Yeah. — And like let's say it's not even just for work stuff. So it's like oh you're going hiking tomorrow. Make sure you like have the right clothes that are clean. — M and Connor M and Connor, you're missing the point. The beauty of widgets is that I don't have to open my Google calendar. Yeah. — He's like, "You can. " It's like, it's literally on my Google calendar. — I don't want to open I want to just stay on my home screen. Like, I actually have uh like I used to maintain like a whole bunch of like constant tabs in my mobile browser and I've got it down to four. And I have found that just that action of like opening up the Chrome app less
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and having like fewer tabs and fewer things to click on and go into is making me use my phone like way less. — Nice. — Um, and I'm stoked on anything that helps me use my phone less. That was one line from the Google event that really stood out to me is we are everything what we're doing for the future of Android is with an eye toward using your phone less and doing more with the help of your phone. Now, there's some stuff that's just obviously horseshit. the uh the assistant, you like they did this crazy demo where you snap a picture of like a concert poster and then you just like tell Gemini like, "Hey, can you just like book me two floor tickets for that? I'm going to like take a girl with me and set a date for that. " And then you like go on your date and then you're just like, "Hey, uh make another date for next week. " Like, no girl wants to hear from your AI assistant that you asked her out again. Are you kidding me right now? Stop it. Just stop it. Don't even pitch this. That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. — Maybe in Silicon Valley. — Maybe — if it's your AI system. — Maybe. But like just know — probably work. — No. Um, like dude, I said I said in the script like when I in the video that we did on the Google event, I was like, "Yeah, even just setting an alarm has about a 80 to 90% success rate for me. " — Oh, yeah. — And since then, I tried to set an alarm for something and it uh and it screwed up the um What did it do? No, it timed out. So, I and I was on Wi-Fi. I was on Wi-Fi at home, so I was on like 2 and a half gig internet, so I didn't even want to hear it. And then, uh, this is a funny one. Um, I was dictating to my uh to my notes cuz I was actually thinking like just because Meta sends these glasses over to me for a sponsored short doesn't mean I don't still have them. I could totally just do an editorial video on them after the fact. So, I've started making some notes from my time just using them now. And I was reminded of a super annoying thing that dictation just does that drives me absolutely crazy. What is up with this word square being capitalized? The so the sentence here is and the video quality off of these things is just is capitalized is just mind-blowingly good. Period. Also, the fact that sometimes it writes the word period and comma, and other times it just puts in the period for me. Come on, man. Uh, I would love to see Meta use a sensor that's square, kind of like the selfie camera on the latest iPhone, so that I could choose to crop landscape if I want to. It capitalized square and it capitalized is why. And then the next sentence, not everything that I do is best portrayed in portrait. Not. That's the beginning of a sentence. Not is not capitalized. The word portrayed is capitalized. And then between in and portrait, there are two spaces. You can't convince me that that — should ask out someone that I potentially want to spend the rest of my life with. You've got to be kidding. The stakes are too high. I'm afraid. — I don't use dictation very much. When you just showed me Square, I was like, "Oh, they it thought the company — Sure. " But in that context — and No, it did not. — No. They did it to Portrayde and all this other stuff. — Is portrayed a company? Is that like a prominent Silicon — Hold on here. Is that a prominent Silicon Valley company? — Portrayed brands. — Nope. Forget it. We're you're done. You're cooked. You're out. You're you're fried. You're — So, there are definitely things that are exciting and there are things that AI is really good at. Um, I tried to I was looking for um a moment from an older video a little while ago and I just couldn't remember. I was looking for a time on short circuit when I had used AI to try to find our deskpad. I wanted it to send me to LTT store — to the Northern Lights deskpad by taking a picture of it. I was using like the circle to search or Google Lens or something like that. one of their image recognition and search things and I couldn't remember what video it was from and Gemini just kept gaslighting me over and over and over again that it was from I think it was like the Pixel 10 or something like that or Pixel 9 9a or that it was from um the Galaxy S24 Ultra or something. And finally, you know, how I ultimately found it was um
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YouTube transcript search. I'm trying to remember what that site. Filmont. This is a really cool site. So, it just kept insisting and the craziest part is was I felt so gas lit by it because it would give me a timestamp and it would describe the thing that happened. It was like you searched for the thing and it just brought up other desk pads of like landscapes or something or like it brought up like the MKBHD store or whatever. Like it was like I was like, "Yeah, yeah, that's what I remember happening. " But it kept telling me it happened in this video when I was like, "No, it's not in that video. " And it would keep insisting that it was in one of these couple of videos and it just couldn't find it. And the way that I ultimately found it was by um going here on film. This is a super cool tool, by the way. And I just searched for uh Northern Lights. Yes, yes. I'm human. Oh my god. Relax. — Hey. — Uh yeah, you go here. Uh verify. I'm smarter than an AI. — I've never seen that one before. — Okay. It was from here. Google 10 Pixel Pro. Uh Google Pixel 10 Pro Fold was what it was from. And the AI could not check this one. It just insisted that it was on a different one. And but it knew it described the way it went down perfectly. It just linked me to the wrong video. Yeah. — And then chat GPT tripped over itself as well. It couldn't do it either. And so, — man, but then there's things that it does so well like I don't know, man. I don't know how to deal with this anymore. this. Like I Okay. What have you used AI for that's been useful recently? — Yeah, fair enough. All right, we can move on. — I've used it in the same way for a super long time. I'll use it for I never use it actual output. That's been a rule for a long time. Yeah, — I use it for brainstorming every once in a while. I'll be like, here's a topic. I need all the basic like fundamentals of this topic and then it'll give me basically like headline things, not headline things. Uh I don't know if I'm asking about a mouse, it'll say latency, — you know, like things like that. Like it'll give me all the different things to consider and then I'll dive into those. Um another one probably my — basically like a checklist to make sure you don't overlook anything. — Yeah. So okay, I want to learn about this topic. What are the different like subcategory type things? I don't remember the actual verbiage because I just copy paste it. Uh what are the things within this topic that I need to care about and then it'll let me know and then I'll dive into those usually myself or I'll ask it to expand on one of them and then dive into it from there. But I try to usually make it so that my final information does not come from it because I'm relatively aware of how consistently wrong it is about things. Um, and then probably over all time, I don't know if in the last month or two, but over all time, my most commonly used prompt objectively is going to be the sentiment analysis one. — Sure. — Where I'll be sending a message — and I'll be worried about how it's going to be interpreted. — Yeah. — So, I'll kind of rubber ducky with the LLM and just be like, what sentiment analysis would you get from this message? Kind of in a vacuum. You know what's funny is I actually uh I use it very rarely, but that was something I used it for pretty recently. I pasted in an argument that Ivonne and I happened to get into over text and I was like, whose fault was it? — And basically it crapped out that it was kind of both of our fault and it legitimately did help us resolve it. — Yeah. — And I was like, "Okay, well I'm sorry for that thing that I did that I didn't really like notice or realize I was doing. " And she was like, "Well, I'm sorry for that thing that I didn't really want to make out through WAN show. I have told that I have told a very large number of people about this whole sentiment analysis thing. " And I find so few people ever try it. And every single person I've ever known that has ever tried it has been like, "Oh, it's actually pretty good. " — Cuz like if you really sat there and really break it down for a while, you'll find those things. But often it's like, I don't know. This is the message that I would send. If this was a normal day, I would just click send, but I want to be a little bit more careful. Copy, paste, blunk. And then it'll be like it'll say some stuff and it's like, yeah, I could see that. So then you make the adjustment yourself. — What are your personal tells for when you know that you're probably cranky? — Mine is eating sounds. If people eating near me is annoying, then I know that I'm in a bad mood, even if I
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didn't realize it before, because eating sounds normally I won't even notice them. But when I'm like when I'm low blood sugar or I haven't slept enough or there's something that's just kind of been agitating me or I have a headache or whatever, if someone is in the same room as me and I can hear that like lip smacking, I just like I want to punch them and I'll like I'll be sitting there going like why am I so agitated right now? Look at them like they're eating. Do they know how much noise they're make? Oh, this is me. Uh, oh no. To be says, "I get this hearing you with the braces. " Hey, I have good news on the braces front. Well, he thinks uh Hey, look. Uh, this one, it's not that zoomed. Whatever. There's one tooth here that's still quite twisted. And from what I can tell, when we untwist that one, we're pretty much done. So, I am hoping, fingers crossed, that we are like 2 1/2 to 3 months from the end here, which would put us at the low end of the time estimate they gave me. They said about 12 to 18 months, and that would put us at around the 12 1/2 13 month mark. Uh, we wasted like an entire cycle with a tie on this one that wasn't secure enough and wasn't moving it. And I felt it right away. I was like, "Should I go in and tell them to like tie that off better cuz I can tell it's not moving and I know that this is the focus. " But I didn't. And when I came in, they were like, "Oh yeah, that wasn't doing anything. So, we have to put in the same wire again, but we're going to like tie it different and reposition the bracket. " I was like, "No, — that sucks. " — I think for me it's like speed. speed. — If I start noticing that I'm just like off the dome just rifling, it's usually not a great situation. — Oh, so you're doing — if I'm no longer controlling my pace, really thinking through what I'm saying, if I'm going like animalistic autopilot brain, it's like — I'm probably tilted right now. — God, — and I need to and the main way that I can try to get out of that is to try to force myself to slow down. How often does that happen on Wan show? — Not that often, I think. Um, — do you believe him? — Dan nodded. — I tried to cut him off. off cuz that was so perfect. — But yeah, I think that's my answer to that. There there's a few other things as well. The eating thing I think is pretty common. I think I get that, too. Um, I don't think I get it as bad as you. I've seen you react to that before. Um, but yeah, I I'll I'll like and I'll start noticing that like the nonautomatic part of the brain is now focused on what happened a few seconds ago instead of what I'm going to do next because I'm going so fast that it's like, well, I didn't like that. I didn't frame that well and now I'm thinking about that instead of what I'm saying next. And then I start kind of falling behind and I need to go like no no no. Let's slow down and get more control over what's happening. Um what is the actual aim of this conversation instead of being right about the next statement? — Mhm. — How do I come out the best possible way out of the conclusion of this scenario or conversation or whatever it is? Uh, so I try to pull myself back into like, you know, larger picture thinking. I don't know, whatever. — It's uh, — yeah. — It's not easy, though. — It's not easy because like you have to count on — one of your tells, like one of your cues to come up. You have to slow down enough to think — I need to slow down, — really difficult, — which can be very difficult. I don't remember. — Even recognizing that you need to slow down is difficult. But then the like really difficult part is actually pulling it back. — You know what? I'm the opposite. — I can pull it back once I have recognized that I need to. Then that's actually relatively easy for me. But the slowing down for long enough to go, "Wait a second. We've gone off the rails here or we're completely focused on the wrong thing right now is not always easy. " Yeah, — for me — um uh float plane chat, y'all need to stop flaming each other and y'all going to get some timeouts pretty quick. I don't care how much tenure you have. Relax. Thank you everybody. — Uh all right, why don't we jump into a new topic? Oh no, we are explaining comms. Hey. Oh, dude. Okay, it's
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not launching with the same amount of fanfare as like the screwdriver or the cables or the backpack or whatever, but this took a similar time frame to develop — really. Okay, so it was in development hell for a couple of years. until we finally found exactly the right fabric for these garments. And uh this is our UV protective polo, which is made with seaw fabric that's derived from reclaimed oyster shells. Yes, oyster shells that have been turned into a lightweight performance fabric that has mic antimicrobial properties. It has because of the weave uh excellent uh moisture wicking, excellent breathability, not to mention UPF 30 plus sun protection. The inside collar has a pop of blue, and we also added a dedicated deeper chest pocket for your sunglasses. This is the one that I've had a sample of using like an older fabric that we found. Uh we actually did a full production run of this thing, but what we found was that the older fabric could not be manufactured consistently. So the sizing of the finished run was all over the place. It is not very often that a Chinese manufacturer will tell you, "Hey, this thing that we made is not of acceptable quality. We don't want to ship it to you. " — But that's what happened when they were like, "We literally don't want to take your money for this. The sizing is all over the place. " So, we had to find a new material. This is made of the same Seawool fabric blend for lightweight UPF 30 plus sun protection, anti- odor performance, and breathable comfort for your beach days, summer commutes, or those moments when your friends somehow convince you to do outdoor activities. Um, I have gotten a shocking number of compliments on my sample of this over the last couple of years. It is genuinely one of my favorite garments that we have ever made. Um, and it is like if you are like me, if you're a vampire and you burn in the sun, uh, and you want something that you can wear, but that doesn't make you feel sweaty. It's like the it's like wearing like a robe — in the sun. Like it's like wearing an umbrella. It keeps you out of the sun, but — you can like go in the sun and you can even like you can go swimming in it and dry off. And because it's antimicrobial, then you don't have to worry about like stinking so much. Um, like it's not magic, you know? Obviously, you get dog dew on it or whatever. You're going to smell like dog dew, but like — Yeah. Yeah. — Uh, it dude, these are so exciting. — Some minor odors or whatever. — And then finally, uh Oh, do you want to bring up the site so we can show people? I'm sure they they're like a fun in the sun product, so I'm sure they did like a fun photo shoot. And then finally to go with them, we've got the UV protective cap, which uses a separate lightweight moisture wicking performance fabric with UPF50 plus protection while keeping the same familiar LTT hat fit. U I'm so excited about these. You can check them out at lmg. gg/uv collection. I think this is something that is going to uh really resonate with our audience because hey, let's face it, I can't be the only one of us that is a bit of a vampire and wants something that helps me be stay out of the sun while being out in the sun. — Eco-conscious seaw from oyster shells sounds uh — this is the kind of stuff that Tatiana just like goes and finds. No, that's super cool. It's just so — she's really passionate about this kind of stuff — as a as a com someone who's completely ignorant in that world. It sounds fake. It sounds like Jonathan talking about Kubernetes to me if I don't know anything about it. Like what? — That's a really really good description. — Like what are you even How does that even how's that possible? — Like a cloud service micro orchestration. — Yeah. What are you talking about? Sounds super cool. It sounds awesome. I like the fact that it's not uh some form of like petroleum plastic derivative thing. — Also, that's cool. — I would love to shout out the fashion team. Did you notice something crazy about this launch? — Uh it's at a time of the year that makes sense. I don't even know if that's where you're going, but like that's been a problem for LTD Store historically. — Yeah. — It totally makes sense. — Oh my god. Good job, Lionus. No, not me. Not me. — Good job then for stepping out of THE WAY. — OH, I mean I was not in the way. Uh, if anything, I have definitely wanted
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things on time. Let's let's be real here. What it comes down to is the execution of the team. — Uh, so I've got to give like a massive kudos to Bridget. Yeah, — she has been she I don't It was a weird thing her coming to work here cuz she like worked at a real company. — I was going to say she came from like — Yeah. bootleger. — Yeah. — Like a you know like an actual you know like fashion company. And she's been here for like going on five years now I think. So like this is a very substantial like portion of her career now. And every once in a while, I kind of check in with her and I'm like, "How's that going for you? " You know, that does that seem in hindsight like a good decision? And um and I mean, I don't want to put any words in her mouth, but she's still here obviously. And she's been pushing the team really hard to start acting like what we are. This is not merch. This is apparel. This is clothing. This is fashion. This is uh this is a really this is — I really like the feel of these. — This is a highly technical garment — and technical means a different thing. — Shells in it, dude. — Yeah, it means a different thing in the fashion world. But what it means is that it's not pure fashion. It's not just for the looks. It's a highly functional — piece that achieves its function in a way that is really just not as simple as finding some off-the-shelf thing and then, you know, cutting it and sewing it into the shape that you want. — Oh, I misspoke. There is polyester in it. — Oh, okay. There you go. I — misspoke. Yeah. No, it's a blend. That's my bad. It's a blend. Um and so, you know, — the — I've got to give uh I've got to give um I've got to give credit to the because I think the Seawool is mostly responsible for the antimicrobial elements. That makes sense. Yeah. Um — and so yeah, I've got — I've got to give credit to the team. It has almost like a cooling to the touch kind of really I can you can tell. I'm not even wearing it. I'm just I'm So I have mine like down here. — This is a fidget toy. — Um and you can tell that it would not like I'm gripping it and it feels cool in my grip if that makes sense. — The hand isn't really heating it up. — Uh Bridget came from like the traditional fashion world where on time was the only thing that mattered — and you just like you shipped it. You didn't do another sample. You just shipped it because on time is the only thing that matters. you literally would never put the wrong season thing on the shelf. It just doesn't work like that. And then she came here where the only thing that mattered was — we ship winter jackets in June, — make it the best it can be and when it arrives we try to sell it. — And she's been kind of — balance a little bit bring those mentalities together. Um — not completely the other way. — Yeah. Not completely. No, absolutely not. In fact, that's a big part of the reason this took three years. Not because it took 3 years necessarily, but because we went, "Okay, now it's done. So, we're going to ship it at the next opportunity. " That is a proper season for us to ship this thing. And um and so yeah, I've just I've got to give her credit for having the discipline and having the vision to basically go, okay, look, I'm going to take what I learned here that's really important from this, you know, my from my past career and I'm going to use that to kind of elevate our strategy here. And I'm just I'm really excited about what they're doing on the apparel side. Dude, we have like 80 plus product launches coming between now and the end of the year. Like think about that for a second. We will be launching almost two new products a week. — Yeah. More than week for the rest of the year. — That's pretty wild. — Yeah, that's a lot. — And it's not with an enormous team. It's just a small team of people who just care a whole freaking lot. Um which is Yeah, which is pretty cool. Uh hold on a second. Uh Gilmore D says, "I saw an Instagram reel before about the new shirts. Am I remembering correctly that Tatiana said something about part of the process making it safe for people with shellfish allergies? My wife has a shellfish allergy. Um uh you know what? I normally wouldn't bug Tatiana during wan show, but I'm just going to I'm going to see if I can grab her here because we gave people the afternoon off anyway. So, if I bug her for like 2 minutes at like quarter after 600, it's probably not the end of the world. Let's see if she picks up. Oh, looks like I'm Oh, shoot. Sammy just posted in chat. Apparently, she's on
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vacation. Okay, I'm not going to bug her then. Well, sorry. I uh will have to find I that out for you and we'll get someone to post it on the product page. Okay. Uh Dan, do you mind uh sending that to um Yeah, to maybe Bridget to check into. — That would be amazing. Sure. Roman says, "Get work zoned. " Yeah. Well, you you know how it is. Um all right. Anyway, so that's the new products that you guys can check out at LT Store. And if you're looking for a good reason to do it, then why not? So you can send a comm. Uh comms are checkout messages. They're something that we created because we don't really believe in people just throwing money at their screens and getting maybe nothing in return from streamers. So we don't do Twitch bits, we don't do super chats, we don't really do any of that stuff. Instead, we do checkout messages or coms. So what you do is you head over to ltstore. com. you add any of the cool stuff that we have on there to your cart. Like say for example the uh I don't know the polo shirt. Luke's just shopping. So, you know, whatever. — No, I was noticing uh you go in here and there's a polo shirt and then you go under apparel and you go to shirts. — Okay. Uh Dan, that's another note. If we could uh — I already sent it off. — Oh, okay. — That's what I was doing with all my phone and stuff. — Wonderful. Yeah, we can let's go to something else. Let's do this. Yeah, the multi the new uh smaller multi-bit precision set. So, this one uh doesn't have the inhandle storage, but it does come with the torque bar so that you can uh you can drive things harder if you want. It comes with fewer bits anyway. Okay, throw it in the cart. And whenever we're live, you'll see this interface to send a checkout message. You can choose your color. You can choose whether to show your name or be anonymous. Joshua C chose to show his name up there. Uh after you place your order, it will go to producer Dan. There he is. Who will reply to it or who will uh curate it for me and Luke to respond to? So, why don't we do a couple curated checkout messages? — Yeah, sure. We've had quite a few come through already. — Really doesn't roll off the tongue like merch messages did, does it? — No. — I just I can't call it merch anymore, Luke. merch. I mean, I'm open to a rebranding again cuz it's really — Maybe the messages are merch. — Not working for me. The the merch was the friends we made along the way. Like, what were we even — Something like that. — I don't know, man. I like I liked whale words. — Whale words kind of fun. — I don't know. I'll let me fester on it a little bit more. — Please do consider something else. — Yeah. — Hey, DM. Love the products as always. I like the new site, but I'm wondering when slash if the archived/retired products page was talked about. Uh, still going to happen. — Yeah, the plan is still for it to happen. It hasn't happened yet. We were hard at work getting the new site up and running. Um, I got to say, like, shout out CW and dev team. Like, the fact that our new site went up and it has as few gamebreaking bugs as it had, like it was, I think, zero game breakers and like maybe one or two things that I would consider high severity and then like a handful of low severity things. Like, as far as new site launches go, I don't think I've seen much smoother than that. Like I was actually really impressed with the team. Um, oh, something I haven't checked yet. Uh, remember I showed you that weird bug on my fold where our imagery on the site would be duplicated. I haven't tried it on the new site yet. Let's see. Okay, so I'm going to click a product. the UV protective hoodie. No, it's fixed now. Cool. So, the image scrolling is sideways now, which honestly is like probably better anyway. Yeah. All right. Cool. So, yeah, good job. We inadvertently fixed my stupid folding phone issue. — Um, yeah, there's trying to figure out if things are a bug or not. There there's a new gallery style that we have. — Um, it's more prominently noticeable on other products, but like on this one, EV protective hoodie, it's selected on icy blue by default. I scroll down and all I see is icy blue — and then they end. Oh, — if I want to see the other one, I click on cactus and then the cactus ones. — This is apparently — very normal. — Other like fashion brands are doing this. This is not like we're not the only ones doing this. I think I might be uh out of touch. I don't shop for things online a lot guy by being like I don't like that so much. — Right. You want to see all the different — I would just see all the and then have clicking the thing just scroll me to the other color. No, it's tough. No, I think I can already give you the answer to this. And I think the reason is that we have — No, there's other places that do this. — No, I just mean even for us though, we have evergreen items like our blank t-shirts, our um they're on again
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trying to be more like a fashion brand. We have seasonal colors now. So, we have our evergreen colors like black and then we will do like new colors. And so when if we were to do all of a photo shoot with these five colors and then we were to launch these three colors, then what would happen is you would have this weird like photo gallery that contains these five colors incredible, — some of which are gone. — And then all these new colors wouldn't be represented there. — So you've got to — for me go to the party shirt for a sec. — Yeah, sure. And like I'm I am more than happy to uh accept that I may be wrong here. — No, I'm not you're not wrong. You're just, — you know, — this is where it gets a little cray for me. — Mhm. — Because now you have the series as well. — This one's out of stock. Oh, we should remove these ones that are all out of stock. I Dan, do you mind sending a note, please? — To whom? um to — but hold on — Dave, — they're not. — Wait, what? — Click on the other series. — Oh, shoot. Okay, I would say that's a bug. — Ooh. Okay, that's a problem. Okay, we need to figure that out. Uh yeah, we definitely out — cuz it doesn't say that it's out of stock. What it's saying technically is that like Frutiger era does not have the hosta Vista. — Yeah. — design. — Okay, we need to figure that out. So yeah, there's some stuff, but it's not that bad. — It looks and feels great. The site in general, — by the way, check out one of the party shirts, Curtis B from Madison, US. Uh 10 out of 10. This shirt changed my life. Okay, that was the solitire large, but there's lots of other variants of our tremendous party shirts. Like, how do you look half this cool right now? I doubt it. — No, — I doubt it. I just a strong doubt. That's all. Okay, Dan, do you want to hit us with a couple coms? — Sure. I've got one more here for you. Thank you for the more polo shirts. Please add even more colors, especially for premium polo. What's all's opinion on polo shirts and what do you look for when designing a polo? Um, I'm going to lean on uh Lisa from the CW team. And the big thing that she talks about to the point of like, oh my god, Lisa, I get it. Yes, I know this is important to our design process. You are 100% right. But she harps on this and it's really important. Like to be clear, what she's saying is so valid and so right. And it's important to say it over and over again because you should never lose track of it is she always talks about our customer and what they need. Not what they want or what they think they might like, what they need. And the way that one of the things that she really tries to emphasize is um ease of wearing. And like what does she mean by that? What she means is that for better or for worse, the people who have chosen to follow the exploits of Lionus and Luke over the last, you know, 14 years or however long it's been. um can be a little bit like Lionus and Luke who are wearing what today? A black t-shirt. Why are they both wearing a black t-shirt? — It goes with everything. — Because it's easy to wear. And so that's the thing that Lisa is always hammering on is when she's looking at, okay, how do we help our customer who we know is going to make their choice based on what is very easy to wear? How do we help them upstyle a little bit? And so that's where you've gotten innovations like the pop of color in the uh in the collar where we're not trying to overwhelm you when you look at your clothes in your closet in the morning or in your drawers, but we're trying to, you know, help you make a choice that is easy. — Oh, that's cool. — And that elevates your style a little bit. And that's exactly, you know, what they try to do with the uh with the polos. Also comfort. Like that's one of my things is I'll always tell them, look, I don't care. I don't care how many oysters it has in it, right? Like that is not — I actually think that's really cool. — No, no. I just mean I don't care how many oysters is in it if it's not comfortable or if it shrinks in the wash. — Yeah. I will say my my interest in it being made with oysters spiked dramatically after I touched it and was like, "Wow, it feels really nice. " — Yes. — And then now that's really cool and now I'm interested in that. Now I want to figure out like I'm going to go home and try to learn about Uh is it o
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ocean wool or something? — Seabool. — Seawool. I want to figure out how that how the heck they make that. Yeah. I'm going to go like watch something or whatever. — So that's where you see the in — from all the different members of the team come together. U during my hands address. Um I made kind of like a joke. Um I forget what did I refer to our size as a company as? Did I call it — an oil tanker or something — or something like that? I called us. — What? Do you remember what word I used, Dan? Let's see if he was listening. — Uh, — oh, we're both trying to turn on Dan at the same time and he ends up turned off by it. — You're better at it. Um, I don't know. It's I can't remember what you said. — Was it mass? I don't know. It was something along those lines. — Um, no, I don't remember. But one of the things that I was kind of emphasizing is that that's a key advantage for us is that we have so many different inputs that go into our outputs. And sometimes that can feel like a too many chefs situation and it can feel like bloat. But I think that when it's done well, it actually really elevates everything that we do, whether it's video or whether it's uh physical goods or whether it's a streaming platform or whatever else it is that we're creating. So, like in a product like this, you can see Bridget's influence. It launched at a freaking reasonable time season wise. You can see like Tony and Dave's inter in um their influence in the marketing, in the fact that it's available concurrently at both of our distribution centers. You can see like Tatiana's influence in the materials choices. You can see Alamade's influence in the fit. Um you can see like Lisa's influence in just the ease of wearing it and all that stuff. you can see my influence and that it's h going to be comfortable and not drinking the wash. Uh or at least, you know, not much. Um it's Yeah, it's just it's lots of it's lots of stuff. Was it mass? — Yeah, it was mass. — All right. Okay. Apparently, it was mass. Now I feel like I have to double check. I have my uh I have my all hands address speech here. It's the kind of thing that I wonder if there's some kind of an outlet where we can kind of like talk to the audience a little bit about some of the stuff that we talked about like the float plane update was so cool and I feel like — you know the viewership of Jonathan's like — yeah you should give context. So — okay so — Jonathan from the float plane team — float plane was part of our all hands for the first time uh was that this week? What a week. Uh faux plane was part of the all hands for the first time this week. So we got to show people like what we do. Um and I had the I thought it would be a lot less interesting to have me just kind of stand up there and talk. So I mostly just introed like what float plane is just in case someone works in a business unit that's really far from float plane and doesn't really know. um and and what we do on a at a very high level very quickly and then try to get out of the way because I thought it would be much more interesting to have you know the developers speak for themselves as to what they do what they have contributed what things they're doing on the platform um and then also have uh the infrastructure side get presented from Jonathan who is currently the primary for infrastructure on flow plane um and it was really good but Jonathan's first video was, if I remember correctly, almost 11 minutes long. Um, he re-recorded it — uh, well, not re-recorded, he rendered it with cutting a bunch of the like gaps between talking out. It came down to I think it was like a minute and a half minute or sorry, 9 and 1/2 minutes or 9 minutes and 45. It's still pretty long, especially in all hands context. And it was dense. It was dense and it was pretty deep in the weeds and it was really, really cool. But I was like, we're going to lose — 90 people with this. Um, can we get a more like slimmed down version that we're still going to lose people with? — And I think at a certain point I had some comments on this of like, oh yeah, it was like it was too technical. And it's like at a certain point that has to be okay because I can't make it — like if it just is really technical. So like we, you know, try to make it approachable, try to give real world scenarios. Like he talked about like what our infrastructure did when a power supply died in one of our servers and how the service didn't go down and how that blah blah blah. So he tried to make it like relatable. It's he tried to basic I think the way that we described it, — if my memory serves me correctly, is we tried to take um like a math or physics problem that was just numbers and we tried to make it a word problem. So like you try to add context instead of an object flying through the air with gravitational force
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and whatever else. It's a catapult and they're trying to hit a target and now you have to figure out the math for it. Like it makes it you can understand it more easily. So we try to take that approach but we took the like uncompressed you know Jonathan version which was much longer and we put it on like an internal uh thing so people could see it and that actually got a decent amount of views. I was worried that maybe no one would watch it. — Oh, they did. — Like I wanted — Someone watched it real fast. — Really? — Yeah. — That's super cool. — I got messages before I had settled down at my desk being like — I thought the float plane team did a great job of their presentations overall. Actually, — um and I just — I'm very happy. I feel like this was probably the most eye-opening all hands we've ever done for the people who work on the media side of the business because it was I think the first time that we haven't really talked about the media side of the business at all. And it's um it's not to be clear I don't you know I'm not going to say that the media side is not important. It's extremely important. It's the foundation upon which everything else was built. Let's be real here. But I think sometimes um it's easy for the media side because I work in the media business dayto-day. It's easy for us to kind of go, hey, we're the center of the universe and like everything else is outside of our tunnel vision. You know what I mean? And like I felt like there were moments when I kind of like looked out over the crowd and I saw people like really engaged. — It did seem to be — and really interested in learning what like entire departments of people who have like been with the company for 3 to 5 years have been building all this time. Um and so I really — you heard Jonathan and Peter, right? Eight plus. — Mhm. — Like they've been around. We don't see them because a lot of the a lot of people in the other BU uh even creator warehouse um — they have their own unit — or they a lot of them are offsite. — So we literally don't see them. Uh a lot of the folks on the media side don't even talk to them or think about them. Um but they're really important to keeping the lights on and keeping thing keeping things going, right? Keeping the ship sailing. Um, — yeah. — I was pretty excited about it. I was a little nervous about it because again I I'm I'm — Well, you had multiple teams presenting. You had infra and float plane. — Well, it was float plane infra, — right? Okay. Sorry. — Which does some stuff for local. — Okay. So there was like the little shout out at the end of like we also do all of this which was like the hosting of all the services for internal things because the flow plane and internal infrastructure/IT teams blend a little bit now — um like Jonathan does work on both sides um and AJ sides. Jonathan is more float plane leaning. AJ is more LMG leaning these days. Um but like there is there is shared resources across the — or like Smash Champs or whatever. The whole intertangled web of companies. — Yeah. And the infrastructure is like right at the heart of the intertangled web of companies. So like there is is — as it would be right. — Yeah. But that was predominantly a presentation on float plane infrastructure, right? — Um yeah, — it was good though. It was awesome. — Yeah, I thought it was really good. — And like the feedback that I've gotten on the long version was also like whoa. The partners of one of the people who presented on the dev side um watched Jonathan's full version before the presentation and was just like vaguely interested at the beginning and then ended up watching the entire like 10 minutes and was like, "Whoa, that was really cool. " Like it's pretty good. — It's tech tips. — Yeah. — It's like real tech tips, though. Um, and they had also watched the dev version, but the dev version was um I think if you told people you were going to show them each one, most people are going to default to expecting the dev version to be more interesting. — Mhm. — Um, so I think that's why the introversion being really interesting is getting so much attention. It's not that the dev one wasn't interesting. It was super interesting. It was very good. had Minecraft footage for attention for uh — there was a lot of attention tricks. — Yeah. — Which I didn't coach any of those. — That was great though. — That was all them. — That was amazing. — And I mean all three of them like Yeah. — Here. Do we actually do we uh What channel were those published to? Was it Pet? — I don't think I have access group internal.
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internal. — Uh — that one. — Oh, okay. Oh, this is great. — And then these are multi-upload posts. So you can see the different versions if you scroll down. — Uh maybe I can. I don't see it. I can't scroll down. — Uh that's fine. I just need uh let me see. Okay. So this — Oh, the development one just has one version. That's why the infrastructure one has two versions. — Uh so this will give you some idea of what apparently our internal presentations look like during our all hands meetings. Um, so showing the Oh, yeah. These are some of the new um user badges. So, here's some Minecraft footage for attention. Um, she's saying stuff during this time, but you're not hearing it. You're watching Minecraft. — JK. Um, so yeah, this that literally played on the projector at our all hands for 100 people. Um, oh man, what a We are Sometimes we're boring in corporate and then other times we're like still a really weird company. Like we had a um a barbecue today in the rain with like axe throwing. Like what the You know, — this was an initiative from our new like HR guy who's like — I would say a first impression of him, no offense, Tim, but would be like, you know, kind of stuffy and old-fashioned, but like there was cornhole. Um I don't know what — I thought it was cool way to kick off a long weekend, too. — Yeah. Yeah. So, we did like an extra long weekend which um yeah, that was a Tim initiative. He basically like brought it to me. He's like, "Here's the budget terry numbers for the Friday early dismissal barbecue. " I'm like, "Yeah, okay. He's actually a lot more charismatic than that. " But, — uh Martina D said, "Please release them to Flow Plane. " Uh — uh. They'd need a scrub to make sure that they're — they would need a scrub. They weren't intended to be shown and then Linus just ripped it. But, uh, that was probably fine. Um, it's also like, you know, these people didn't necessarily sign up to be shown to the world. They signed internally. And when they were making them initially, that was the goal. So, it might be possible that we could do another pass and make them. — Yeah, maybe. — Maybe — we're not committing anything now. Yeah, — especially cuz these guys like have a lot of work to do and already put into this and so — and are already a fairly undersized team. So like they they're very busy. — I prefer the word talented. — Sure. They do a lot of output per person basically. — Very talented. — Um — Yeah. — Um Oh, did we actually do a com yet? — Yes, — we did one. Did we do two? — Yes, we've done two. — We've done two. Oh, sure. Should we pick another topic? — I honestly have zero memory of either of them. — Nice. That's how you know it's good cuz it sparks a good conversation. — Yeah. — I always feel good when you do a com for like an hour. — That does happen. Um — Yeah. Makes me feel good. — Yeah. Okay. Oh, I get right cuz that means he cured a good one — and Yeah. Sometimes I get it wrong and you're like nah 30 seconds and then we move on. I'm like what? We've done this before. Way to go, Dan. You've done bad and you should feel bad. — I do all the time. — No. No. — Too much. — Now we're tripping over each other on the Dan button again. No. It's fun. It's cute. Uh, all right. Amazon has decided that same DAY SHIPPING IS NOT FAST ENOUGH. They've started rolling out Amazon now, a service aimed at delivering your order in 30 minutes or less in a handful of American cities back in December and 15 minutes or less in parts of Brazil, Mexico, India, and the UAE. This service is now expanding to additional cities. It uses specialized micro fulfillment centers, also known as dark stores, for the deliveries, and these sites can stock thousands of items closer to customers than Amazon's typical warehouses. The company said that 30inut deliveries will be available 24 hours a day in most areas where the service is available. Prime members will pay a $3. 99 fee for Amazon now and an additional $1. 99 fee for orders below $15, while customers without a Prime membership will pay a $14 delivery fee along with an extra $4 for orders below 15 bucks. This is crazy. Like it's basically Uber Eats but for like kind of
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anything on Amazon I guess that is popular enough that it's stocked in one of these micr fulfillment. probably a lot of stuff considering if you look at Amazon statistics, it seems like people just sort of all buy the same — sort by overall pick. — Yeah. Which and you know what? We've built PCs using the overall pick, using the top rated, using the um — overall pick mean. — Uh we did a whole video about it. I forget. I did my thing where I do a bunch of research and learn about it. I write a script. I host the video. And then that part of my brain withers and dies and hopefully a new part grows in its place. — Lance and I were talking very recently about how I need I was like trying to learn something. Ended up watching my own video to try to learn it. Um — it was about the um DirectX12 and SLI stuff and Vulcan. Yeah. — And I ended up watching the whole thing cuz I was like — Oh yeah. I had no memory that you could SLI four of those cards after they turned off four-way SLI. You could still do it, but only for benchmarks. Like, I had no idea that was a thing. Completely forgot that. Like, just tons of stuff that's just — gone. And no figment of a memory of it. It's just gone. — Yep. — And then I can remember so many stupid things. — I've hosted like 8,000 videos. I regularly come across a video and go I have no recollection of that — like at all — at all. — Yeah, it's weird. — And you know what? Sometimes that's the most fun way to enjoy it. Are you okay? — I had a very bad realization. — Uh AI generated videos being able to potentially like convince you that your past was different than it is. — Oh, like gasolate you. — Yeah. It's good news when I show Luke for that. We're moving on. — Let that part of your brain shrivel and die. — Yeah. — Um — uh anyway, you are pretty adamantly against using Amazon. — Would you consider if you needed something right now, Amazon now if you could get it in 30 minutes? — Depends how mission critical it is. But I mean, — okay, it's toilet paper. No, — you're on the toilet right now. — We have a bet at home. — Nice. Solid. Is it the Lwig one? — No. — Oh, okay. Just — I got it before that. — Some other one. Okay. All right. Cool. Did you spring for heated? — Yes. — Yeah. — But I sprang for heated before like North America got really into them and it wasn't that expensive and then they went — really I haven't shoed for one recently. Are heated expensive? — I got it before the COVID toilet paper rush. Oh, so you were like way ahead of the curve. — Yeah. — Got it. — And then the co toilet paper rush happened and everyone went, — "Oh, bed days. " And then they went um I don't know, maybe they've come back down, but like it's been naturally if you follow that timeline, it's been years. So like I don't know. I just remember like talking to people about how it was good and then people being like, "Oh yeah, well they're like way too expensive. " And I was like, "Huh? Does Ledwig still do beday? — I don't think so. — I mean, his site's still up. Oh, sold out. — Sold out. Okay, never mind. Doesn't do them anymore. Okay, so just I don't know. Buy a bedet. Uh oh. Okay, Tushy still does them. They do know that that's that there's a very different website. You know what? It doesn't matter. The point is um — where's a heated one? Oh my good. Oh. I hate it when dude websites like this. It just makes me want to leave the website. — I clicked on something. I was trying to look at your product and you popped up this whole page that just off. I am trying to use your website and look at your product. — Shop by model. — Oh my gosh. How many models of bedet do you need? Shop by feature. Warm water. Here we go. Oh my god. Go away. What just happened? I clicked warm water. Okay, now it goes. Dude, no. I am no longer showing this website because it's too obnoxious. — Yeah. And my Amazon thing to be clear, I don't I try not to like, you know, preach it to other people too much or anything, but I have my reasons. I try to go to practically anywhere else. Obviously, I try to make it like smaller outfits, smaller stores directly from the company if I can. is generally ideal. Um, but sometimes it's not an option. But like I often would even rather go to like Best Buy. Just something. But uh yeah, the thing that drives me nuts is when there's a company that is
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just an Amazon company, they only sell through Amazon. That's very annoying because then it's like, well, either you need to find an alternative or uh get it from Amazon. Anyways, I needed a uh an irrigation line adapter for my garden hose. I wanted it in 30 minutes. I would have done it cuz I had to wait like 3 days or something like that to get the stupid thing and then that means that I had to go and manually water stupid hanging baskets — and there wasn't like a Home Depot thing. They just — I didn't have time to go shop. — I had to order it online. I had like — Can you order online from Home Depot? — Uh yeah. Uh their shipping is pretty expensive in Canada though. — Like it generally doesn't make a ton of sense. — 3D print it. So, the plastic one that I had before was exactly why it failed, though. So, I wanted a brass one. But good idea, though. Good idea. I like where you're going with it. Um, all right. — It's way easier for distribution. I understand my the like elevator pitch portion of why I I don't really like it is the mass crushing of small business, whether that be retail outlets that resell things or honestly just places making things. Like you look at people trying to make stuff in Western countries and the insane amounts of patent infringement that is on Amazon and Amazon's just complete blind eye to it happening and then Amazon just watching what sells really well on their platform and then just making an Amazon basics all the things — and just completely crushing competition. They are ruining people's dreams is like a very uh fancy way of saying it. But like shutting down small business, shutting down medium business, completely replacing like somebody puts their life's work into a product and then Amazon just goes and there's an Amazon basics version. um making it the default for all the things reorganizing their website to take out things like frequency frequently bought with and basically only surfacing the top sellers in a category so that it is more well tuned for them to do something like an Amazon basics or more well tuned for them to sell those top spots. Um, it's you hear about what they do to their workers. Like just everything about it feels just really bad for society and everyone involved, including all of the customers. Um, to me, again, you can pick your own battles. It's all good. Does not bother me when other people use it or whatever. I just try not to I try to put at least some amount of effort into not — Everyone's got to have their own battle. I uh I went to an event recently um where I met Oh man, I hope I don't get her name wrong. Was it Maya Conservation? Maya Maya. Yeah, here we go. Here she is. — Better than Timmy. Yeah, I don't. — Uh so she talked at an event that I was at recently and she actually uh it's really funny. She was here in Vancouver. She did a TED talk. — I was going to say, didn't she do a TED talk? — Yeah, here it is. Um so — super cool. Her thing is this animal sanctuary that probably the coolest thing about it is that humans don't go into it. Uh, no, I don't want to sign up. I don't Okay, whatever. The point is um because they don't have to accommodate parking lots and walkways and safety for humans and a gift shop and like all this crap. Uh she's able to take all the money that comes in to her I forget how to pronounce it. Elvis sanctuary. She's able to take all the money that comes into it and just spend it on supporting the animals. And she's got these um she was explaining how she's kind of um — uh like personified or she's created these sort of um uh what's it called when you give humanlike characteristics to an animal? — Personification. — Is it called personification? Help me out. If it's called something else, let me know. Alves is apparently how it's pronounced. Um so yeah, she um she kind of personifies the animals. Anthropomorphic. Is that it anthropomorphism? Whatever. One of those two things. — Either way. U so people can like give this cow that you know has a name and has kind of like a personality like a treat and she's raised like millions of dollars at this point and it's uh it's super cool. And I
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think it's very easy to look at anyone, whether it's your personal cause of, you know, Amazon being kind of bad or her personal cause of animals and go, "Okay, well, like, hey, Luke, why aren't you doing anything about animals? " And Maya, why are you buying stuff on Amazon or whatever? But it's like, — I feel like um your own battles. She made a really good point at the end of her talk which is just like can we just can we do something anything a little bit to just be like a little bit better in some way and and get away from the attitude that is well I'm causing all this damage in this other place so it's it's — therefore everything is fine — therefore everything consumerism under capitalism therefore I will abuse everything I can therefore nothing matters — not in my opinion the way to go — maybe uh Zach says I think you mean humanize Yeah. Either way, something basically she just uh she she helps people form and I'm putting these are my words, not hers, but it's like almost form like parasocial relationships, but instead of with her with like the animals at the sanctuary, — a cow who likes treats — and want to support them. And her theory is that if people like care a lot about this one wolf that's like super cool and has this great personality, — how do they know the these details? — That when you know this type of wolf is now endangered, like critically endangered, that people will go, "Hey, no, not those. That's like my friend, the wolf that I really like and that I feel a personal connection to. " And I just I thought it was I I'm sorry. I'm completely butchering it. Just go watch her TED talk. — Okay. Yeah, there's a live webcam. Okay. So, you can't go there and you can't like walk around. Oh, ads. — Well, she'll take like influencers and streamers and stuff there — uh just to help raise money for it. — The general infrastructure for it, isn't it? — Yeah. the public doesn't have to be built so she can just spend everything on uh on doing their conservation work. I I just think I think it's super cool. — That's sweet. — Yeah. Right. Animal ambassadors. That's what she calls them. That's awesome. — Anyway, yeah, go go watch her TED talk. Don't listen to my version of it, but um uh I just had a chance to say hi to her and what a great job she did during her talk at the event that I was at. And uh Evan and Caitlyn were actually the moderators for her like fireside chat. They did a great job, too. Um I was just like, "Wow, you guys did a great job. " That's a rough act to follow. I had to give my talk like right after her, but I did my best. That could be pretty tough. Yeah. I mean I'm a pretty good presenter, but just Yeah, it it's always nice when you follow an easy act, you know? That's all I'm saying. Um what what else? Uh what else we got here? What was that even a topic? How do we start talking about that? — Not a single clue. — Unitry. Oh, sponsors. Yeah, let's do sponsors. Oh, float plane announcement. Thanks, Dan. Where the devil is the float plane announcement? Well, look, we released two fan favorite LT videos early on float plane this week. Uh the tech houses, I think this is actually the fourth video, Sammy. Uh but we did another tech house video. This time it's spring cleaning in the backyard of the tech house. Uh no, the excavator is not clickbait. We actually rented a little excavator so that we could tear down the shed, uh, move a bunch of like wood ties, uh, figure out the situation with the pond. Yes, from my past life, I do know how to operate an excavator. Fun fact, very few people know that. Um, and then also, uh, well, okay, he doesn't say which one the other one is. Classic Sammy. Now, we're going to release another video right now live on WAN show. I'm going to go into the CMS. I'm going to release a video. It's going to be great. Oh, I'm going to use the beta version of the CMS. Should I use the beta version, Luke? — Uh, no, not for that. — No, — Okay. — Not for posting. — I guess I won't then. Uh, it's Oh, it's another episode of Setup Doctor featuring our very own Reese, who you've probably seen in many of our videos as the production assistant for many other people's AMD ultimate tech upgrades and other upgrades. He's uh he's kind of an always uh always the bridesmaid, never the bride of our upgrade series, but he's finally getting his bride moment. And I had two people internally. So just like people who review out of the handful of people who review the video reach out to me and be like, "This is the funniest video we've done in ages. " I was like, "Okay. " I really didn't actually notice it that much when we were shooting. It was like a very chill shoot. It was just like me, David, and Ree who are kind of recurring uh outside cast members of Upgrade series. So, David has been the writer for quite
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a few people's Upgrades and then Ree is often the production assistant slash set of additional hands on these shoots and then I'm often there. So without having to carry the energy or like adapt to the energy of whoever the subject was, it was just kind of core crew and we didn't really have anything to do. All we had to do was build a desk and then just like kind of organize a room. So we didn't really have much of an objective. And apparently the just like vibes of it were like peak LT. I haven't actually watched it yet, but I will — vibes. — Yeah. So definitely go check that out. So, that video is live. Um, finally, we have a video that Sammy is calling his magnum opus of float plane exclusives. Tech roulette, an actual original concept by Sammy where you put two people headto-head in tech trivia. The loser gets a bullet in their Nerf gun and has a chance to pop their full water balloon above their head. This is probably going to be a recurring series. And the first episode is Lionus V. Luke. — It said jump 30. Oh, yeah. Perfect. — Oh, wait. No, that's not it. 30 seconds in. — I think I should be allowed to spin it. — Three, two, one. — I was actually pretty convinced I was going to go. — Basa. — I think it's the party foul. I think the party foul. God, — that's fine. I forgot what it stands for anyway. — Honestly, me, too. — The S is standards. I know that. E is engineering. V is has it versatile. — Incorrect. Video electronic standard association. — Okay. All right. Give me. — All I got was the S and the A. — Oh, you pull that back to Okay. — Ready. — I think that's on. It's hard to tell. — You're so far off. It's going to — You keep putting it off when I let go, though. — So now it's going like it'll probably hit it. So, lots of fun. We did three rounds. Um, feel free to go check that out over on Floatplane. Uh, get all this and more at lmg. ggfpwan. All right. Uh, what are we? Oh, right. I didn't do the sponsors. The show is brought to you today by AMD. This month's AMD Ultimate Tech Upgrade was Nick Harris from the Labs team. And if you haven't watched the video yet, go check it out and give him some love. It was lowkey one of the funniest ones we've ever done. Uh he already had a lot of computers. Um so we had to get a bit creative about actually upgrading. Like look at all his computers. These are all before we started. Um so anyway, we kind of solved some issues around his networking. Uh, we did a small computer upgrade for him. We set him up with a super cool test bench. Um, and this video strikes a really great balance between being informative about tech and also just being pure chaotic entertainment. And this is cool. If you want to get an upgrade of your own, AMD is giving away a Ryzen 7 9800X 3D and RX970 XT bundle in the video description of that video. So, go check it out. Luke, AMD has another question for us this month. Uh, — with GPUs getting more powerful every generation, is 4K gaming finally worth it? Or do you still think 1440p is the sweet spot for high refresh rate goodness? Ooh, man. I think this is going to be such an unfortunate answer. I mean, yep, — the rest of the system is so much more expensive now — that I think it just doesn't matter. M — 1440 still reigns supreme — cuz like with the amount more that you're going to have to spend on your storage, RAM, with the amount more that you're going to have to spend on basically everything, uh the overall we've talked about this before, — right? If you want to look at the price of an of uh you know uh the performance per dollar of a GPU, it might be more accurate to consider the performance per dollar of the entire system at the lower GPU versus against the higherend GPU and how that shifts and how that relation works. — I got them boys. — It's that continues to apply. Both perspectives are valid looking at the performance per dollar of just the card — because if you already have an entire system then that's the outlay that's what you're considering. — However, when you're buying an entire system, yeah, the performance per dollar of the entire system is what actually matters and chasing 4K and you might be interested in the performance per dollar of the delta. Like if I sell the
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card that I have and then buy this new card, it the end the resulting price is this many dollars. How many more frames does that give me? Um like that might be interesting to you. No one asked me, but I'm going to give my answer anyway. I said this 7 years ago and I made that face. That's a face that of me exists on the internet. It got 5. 1 million views because that's a message that resonated with a lot of people and I still stand behind it unless you p unless it is a priority for you. The difference now 7 years later is that 4K gaming is good. — Yeah. — If you want to lay out that kind of money for it. — Yeah. at and the LSS 4. 5. Let's be real here. If you have a 4K monitor, which has gotten a lot more affordable since I made that video, okay, if you can run it at 1440p, then you can turn on DLSS 4. 5 and you can also run it at 4K. So, it's less dumb, but I still think that to my eye, a high refresh rate, high contrast. — We're talking about gaming at a computer with your monitor at a reasonable distance. — 1440p monitor is still the sweet spot. And um especially for competitive, and they did have the word competitive in their question. For competitive, 1440p is the max I'd go. Yeah, I'd even still consider 1080p, but I'd prefer not to. 1440p is uh — shout out Counter-Strike gamers playing at 720 and below. — Nice. Uh the show is also brought to you by Cape. Time and time again, we see major telecom providers facing data breaches or worse surveillance scandals. Cape is America's privacy first mobile carrier who is still offering reliable call service while also helping protect you from things like SIM swaps and leaks. Similar to how a VPN and encrypted messaging apps can protect your data, Cape wants to protect you at the network level. Cape uses something called identifier rotation, which changes your IMSI every 24 hours, so you look like a different subscriber to the network every day, making it harder for anyone to track you. Subscribers to Cape get additional phone numbers, not just VoIP, that will work for things like account verification without having to give their primary number out willy-nilly. So, it's kind of reminds me of like um those uh sud pseudon pseudonmous like credit card number services. — And every 24 hours, Cape deletes things like call and text metadata while you use their service. — So, why not take control back of your number from your carrier and get 33% off your first 6 months of Cape with code. This is yet another really cool sponsor of ours that happens to not be in Canada and I'm like — I was literally just looking it up. — Yeah, I'm sorry. — Come on. — I know. Yeah, them and privacy. com are like two that I would immediately sign up for with my own personal hard-earned money immediately. — Dude, the phone number for verification thing — that's super cool. — Would be really nice. Uh yeah, most cool credit card things and most cool mobile plan things just never come north of the border. Uh how long have we been live for? Holy crap. We've done like three topics. We Dude, we have so many topics. What the crap is going on here? Okay, quick burn THROUGH A COUPLE TOPICS. — THAT'S NOT — your Steam controller screams the Wilm scream, which I did not just do. If you drop it, if it's turned on, and if you're in big picture mode, that's cool. We have a short about it. You can check the short out on the YouTubes here. This is uh I can shamelessly just play it because it's my channel. — Yeah. audio. — Is it seriously not on by default? — Sorry. It's — But it But hold on. No, — wait for it. — Unmute it. — I'm unmuting it. God. — Okay. Ready? — Apparently, if you drop the Steam controller, there's a chance — they can hear it. You can Okay. If they can hear it, I'm happy. — Yeah, it's on now. — Good. — I wasn't expecting — Good production value show. — Apparently, if you drop the Steam controller, there's a chance that you'll get a Willilhelm scream out of it. I came to Elijah's house to drop his controller. What? Oh, it did it. — First try.
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— Oh, there we go. Okay, one in five. — Okay, it's about one and four. Apparently, if you drop the Steam controller, um, this short is doing numbers. And I was talking to Luke — content, dude. — about this on the pre-show, but I'm just like, I don't know how to deal with this, man. Like that was the lowest effort video that I have made probably in the last 5 years. — It's getting more views than like Scrapyard Wars. — There is something — Why do I try anymore? — There is something interesting in tech right now. — There is a Look at your historical — 1. 1. Yeah. — I mean, — that one's actually taking off. That one's achieving escape velocity. — Still very good. — Yeah. — 315. — Yeah. — 3. 4. — Yes. Yes. — Same thing. — Yeah. Yeah. — I mean, yeah. No. I I get it. It's just like that shorts views. They don't really count. Yeah. — Well, — except they're still measurable and comparable. — Yeah. Yes. It's shorts versus shorts. So, he he's not wrong. And I mean, look, you can say they don't count, but I sample size of not that many. I went to a um I chaperoned a band event for one of my kids and the young kids know who I am. And I pretty much promise you it ain't the long form content. — Yeah. And so us having a foothold in shorts is us having that facetime with that demographic of viewers. We can't ignore it. We like we're a sort of, you know, we're basically a product company at this point, but we're a media company like at our core, at our foundation. And so we can't just look at shorts and go like, "Oh, who cares if we get 300,000 views or 3 and a half million views? " You know, it doesn't matter. It's not real views anyway. No, we have to get out there in front of viewers and we've got to get them familiar with our style and with our content and uh we have to have a strategy there. And it's something that I I'll admit that we've kind of struggled with. What now? — Oh, hi Josh and Full Point Chat in all capital letters. Oh my god, it just made my controller scream. — Yeah, you have to have big picture mode open if anyone missed that before. So big picture mode, it has to be on and then if you drop it, it'll Yeah, it'll scream. — Pretty funny. looked like about one in four. I got it to scream three times in 11 or something like that. So, — the greatest phone ever is real and also American. After numerous delays and even rumors of being cancelled, Trump mobile says the T1 phone will be shipping next week. — We have a full video planned on this, so we won't comment too much. However, what we can do is we can watch this ad together. So, — there's also a community note. — We'll get to that. I don't know if you remember some of the uh some of the earlier shenanigans around the T1 phone, but uh the first I believe it was the first launch image was actually just a photoshopped iPhone. Then they had an image of the supposed T1 phone that was a photoshopped uh Galaxy phone in like a Spigen or Spigen case that was just like photoshopped gold but actually or maybe the Spigen case was gold. I don't remember the details but uh but it was just like an image off of like Spigen's website uh but like Trump phone or something. Um, so there have been — I don't know. — There have been a lot of people. Yeah, the Spigen logo was visible. Like it was — I remember that. I think I remember that. — There's been a lot of people looking at all of the obviously fake pictures of this phone and going, "Yeah, this thing is never going to ship. " But apparently something definitely not those initial uh renders because it's obviously not going to be an iPhone. something is apparently going to ship and I don't know what Twitter is doing right now but I cannot play T1 phone. — Oh lordy. Um so this is apparently it except readers added context to this video. Video is AI. US flag has 11 then nine stripes. Back texture is inconsistent. Uh that is just two of the things that are wrong with it. There's another really good moment a little bit later here. Hold on. Wait for it. There. Here. What is happening here? — What the Yeah. — What? What is the Is it on a lazy Susan? Is it What is What is going on right now? — The brilliant display makes — um I put down a deposit ages ago. I have
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no idea if I'm actually going to get one necessarily because — who knows if they exist. — I'm obviously not going to sign up for Trump mobile service. I'm in Canada. They don't even have service here. They're they're using T-Mobile for their um their MVNO, their mo uh mobile virtual network operator. So they don't they don't have cell towers or anything and they don't uh manufacture phones. They just um — man the phone looking completely different now than originally is crazy. Like I don't even recognize we're in the way but this the phone like here. That doesn't — Yeah. — Wait, what? You can just buy a random Samsung? Yeah, because they the mobile carrier does work. — It's just an MVNO on T-Mobile. — Oh, you can buy iPhones and stuff, too. Okay. — Yep. — Sure. — The deals aren't good, but like I mean, yeah, who expected them to be? Um, — wild. — Here, I'm from phone original photo. I'm going to see if I can find the original photo. Uh, yeah, here we go. So, it has changed. Um, — yeah, that's what I remember — in appearance. multiple times. This one was funny cuz this is just like what even is this? — Yeah. — Like that's clear. This is clearly nothing. Like that's not And I don't mean nothing like the phone brand. I just mean that's not anything. — Um yeah, I think that's the that's most of the various iterations of it. Here's what was shown to the Verge a while back. So the finished version does seem to look pretty close to this and it has gone through two rounds of certification now. So, there is pretty credible evidence that this phone will be a real thing. Uh, here's the Spigen thing. Anyway, we're planning a full video on the um on kind of the whole history of this. We actually uh got an in got an interview with the uh Verge writer who's been like a dog on a bone like on this every single week. They have u um they have posted an update. They've requested comment from Trump mobile been like, "Hey, so what's going on with the phone? " Because it's been delayed multiple times. when back when they announced it in I think it was June of 2025, they said it was going to be shipping in September. And that's when I kind of went, well, this is obviously a complete scam and will never ship because there's no way that you could ship anything resembling a mobile phone in like 3 or 4 months or whatever. And they didn't. It looks like it's going to be more like 11 months. Oh, here's the spigan thing. Lawsuit incoming. they humorously tweeted because this is a this is an image of supposedly the Trump T1 phone that still — see it in the background — still has their logo on it. — It's just wild. — The whole thing is just an absolute clown show. Um and it'll be hilarious to see what we ultimately get delivered. Um, cartoon Brat says, "I've been keeping track of this saga through uh Penguin Z apparently. " Um, so good luck everybody. Uh, by East one says, "The Trump phone is definitely shipping in September. We just don't know which September or if it's in this dimension. " Yeah. — 603 says, "I got to say, Linus, I do not care about this news. Like, even if it sucks, I don't care. " — That's funny. — Um, yeah. I mean, — sometimes you just got to laugh at stuff. — Yeah. It's just it's what else are we supposed to do at this point, sir or ma'am? Like uh you know, the head of state of the world's largest economy, it launched a scam phone. It's definitely interesting. If nothing else, — having a head of state be super active in business while serving is very interesting. — Um, wasn't there something with like a peanut farm and some previous president? — Oh, I don't know. — President. — Oh, yeah. Some — forced to sell or something. So, — was that George Bush Senior or — I have no idea. — Who was it? — Jimmy Carter. — Okay. Not forced to sell. He had to put it in a blind trust. — Yep. Um, and — it's not even my country's — I think for him blind trust did not mean my sons are doing it a greater degree of separation. — Yeah. — Um, Zen Thoxen though brings up something that is not in the doc that I'm super excited about. The new Sony Xperia looks so freaking amazing. And because Google apparently is making moving the back button part of core Android, I am like I think I think I'm
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going experience. Are — we going to be Experia bros? — Headphone jack, micro SD, flagship phone, all yours for the low price of I think it's like $1,800 in US. — Yeah. — Whoa. — Yeah. — Does it cook? — Uh I don't know. — Does it? — Yes. It's the Xperia 18 price. Hold on. Here. Here. Here. Let me look it up. — No notch, — which is my favorite feature. — It's so expensive. Dan, are you getting one? — No, I just got the seven. — Yeah. Um, — I still owe you my six. Stop letting me forget. — Okay. What What about it? — Cheap. — What's cool? — Everything. — Sony camera. pull up a GSM Arena and have a look through. — Sure. Uh, — okay. What is its name exactly? — Sony Xperia 1V11. — Seriously? — Yeah. The Xeria 18, — but the eight is in Roman numerals. — Yeah. Yeah. — But it has a one in front of it. — There's the one and the five and the one is the better one. And then it has Roman numerals. — It's like Arabic one and then Roman. — Yeah. — Glass front and back. Victus two on the front. Bro, it's just too grand Canadian. — Don't worry about it. IP68. Okay. Uh 120 Hz display, 1080p class. — Okay. You Sorry, I'm interrupting you again. My bad. I went to the Sony store. I can see the two grand Canadian in the background. They're like, "Do you want $5? " — Hey, listen. I've done more for less. You can save the $5 to wipe your tears. — Yeah, I just Sorry. I just thought that was really funny. I can just tell that you're going to like Oh man, it's only 256 at 2 grand. — Oh my god. — Yes, but you can put — the one TB is $2600. — But you can put an SD card in it. — So you can get the cheap one and put a 1 TB SD card. — Cheap. Cheap is a word that I don't know if we should use. You can get the poor people one — and put an SD card in. — That's crazy. Kate, you're gone. So expensive. — Too sp too spicy. Dan, — I'm obviously being facicious. — Finish, Luke. You're not letting me finish. Android 16 with up to four major Android updates. — Up two. Uh Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5. So cutting edge chip. So that's good. Uh 16 gigs RAM. — They look good. Wow. — Uh, triple camera system, all 48 megapixels, all the things. Uh, I don't see the selfie camera is 12 megapixels with, uh, SDR support. Uh, stereo speakers. That's good. It better be Wi-Fi 7 triband. Okay. Um, oh. Oh, dude. Oh, sidemounted fingerprint. Oh, take me now. Oh. Oh, that's pretty fantastic. Just like — they look really good. — I told you they're good. Do you get it? — I get naked for side fingerprint scanner. — Yeah. The like stonew wash looking finish. — I will disrobe for you. Sony — looks fantastic. — Uh 5,000 mAh battery, 30 watt wired charging, 15 watt wireless, reverse wireless, bypass charging. Dude, bypass charging. Underrated feature. Very cool. — Bro, the ability to plug in the headphones is so sick. — You guys get it. I'm glad you always gotten it, Dan. I just They haven't had the ability to move my freaking back button, which I need. — I have small hands, Dan. — And we're all just going to have to deal with that. — Up to two days of battery life. — I mean, — four years of health battery. What is that? — Uh, I think that just means that like — based on simulations of repeated USB charging and discharging with the same type of battery, battery health depends on usage. — Yeah. — So, up to four years of two days worth of battery. I mean that I I mean if it's if a device doesn't have like a solid four years of the battery not sucking then that's pretty terrible. — Play I'll torch that. — Okay, that's fair. Oh, whoops. Okay. I mean I was going to say I bet I could get two days out of my Fold 7 if I really tried. I don't know if I could get two days, but like I'm at 71% today right now. Like I feel like Android battery life, as long as you're careful about which apps you install and how many notifications you allow has actually been pretty good for a while. — This phone is torched. I have done effectively like nothing on my phone today. I was desktop the whole time at 64%. I didn't open Pokémon Go. I didn't do anything. — H All right. — 64%. The battery on this if I could do like a battery life assessment, it's done. I don't which is like okay. It's not. It's not. — So, pastor would be great for you then.
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Maybe even worth 2,000 Canadians. — I couldn't even finish the sentence. — Oh man, — that's so much money for a phone. — Yeah. — Is there This is just it. Like they do they have another phone this generation that isn't insane? — No, you can have my last generation one. — Okay. Look at this. Look at this video. Look at the finish. — They're really pretty. — It looks really nice. Yeah. I want one. — I don't often feel that way about phones. — I want one. — Like the five. — I really want one. Dude, — what phone? It's a It's an 8 Pro, — but it's not I don't I do not think it's the 8 Pro's fault. I have done — You know, we know Sony people — unnatural things with this phone. — I mean, I'm already trying to convince Sony to send over a BVM 3110. I don't think uh — I had Sony sign. — You had Sony sign your Okay. Sorry. What? Story time. — At LTX, we had a Sony booth. Yeah. — And I went, "Oh my god, I love your phones. Can you sign my phone? " And I had all of them sign it with their Sharpie. — And then I also met them at uh what's the one in Vegas that we do in January? — CES. I also found a bunch of them uh at a party and was like, "Sign my phone. " And they liked that. They thought it was weird and really enjoyed it. — It is weird. Yeah, — they remembered it. Yeah, — that's cool. — Why do you want this? — Which — is this for? Color correction. — Oh, okay. It's just the coolest monitor on the face of the earth. — What does it do? — It's a real not do, Luke? — I don't know anything. — It is. — Give me the tips. — It is the god king of displays. — Why? — Because it takes any input in any color space with functionally perfect accuracy. — I love it. — It's the room temperature room. — Yeah. — Of monitors. Yeah, Yeah, it's like the reference. — You don't see all the awards. I see the awards. — Yeah. My god, she's thick. Oh, I like buttons. I like knobs. I'm getting sold. Wow. That is a lot of crazy inputs. Okay. — It's until you've seen it, you've never seen content. — Wow. It's um it's like uh — it's like putting on glasses when you needed glasses and seeing the world for how it was supposed to look. 4,000 nits peak brightness. — I love trying to sell Yeah. monitors through like video that someone's watching on another monitor cuz you have to try to like try somehow to explain the difference, but there's you can't really. No, but I mean this is a pretty good representation because you can see that instead of blowing out the details, you can like see the light. — Yeah, — you can see the light, Luke. And the color. Oh, the color. Oh. Oh, I'm getting chills just thinking about it. It's beautiful. — So, what will you use this for? — To make a video about it. — And then — I don't know. I mean, they're probably not going to let me keep it. So, — you going to game on it? — I fast pixel respons. I'm going to game on it. — I mean, like, is this going to become your monitor at home? — Uh, I think that probably — pixel response. — Probably the production team would riot — if I took this home selfishly. — So, that's why I mentioned like so they would use it for color correction, I guess. — Um, oh, we could use it as a playback monitor for you guys at Wanet. — Jeep. No. — Piss off every single department and us probably. — Yeah. No. I just want to make a video about it because it's so cool and it's uh it's better than anything — that exists. — All right. — Yeah, it's pretty cool. — Have you seen reference monitors before, Lionus? — Yeah. Uh we did a video on one from uh Flanders a little while back and that was — the FL Scientific. — Yeah, that was quite eye opening for me. And this is a new generation um of reference display and it's it's unreal, dude. I I've seen it in person once now and I just um we have this unlisted footage on short circuit that is just like HDR footage shot in like this weird treehouse thing in the woods. And I put it on the reference monitor and I was just like, I've never seen this footage before. Not like this. Like it's just Oh, it it's like — And even they can have a normal power connector. — Yeah. Um — amazing. — It's my favorite things about it is that it has buttons and knobs and a normal power connector. It's like an experience I had fairly recently where listening to
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a particular headphone was like hearing familiar songs for the first time. — Fairly recently. — Yeah. — Is this a — So, Unitry built an absolute unit of a mech. Check this out. Unitry is kind of a crazy company. — Yeah. — Um A& W Canada, you've already got me. Like I'm going to go eat there probably this weekend. Just chill. Um — freaking what? Yes, — that has to be like a seat. Yeah, it is a seat. — Or you can not. You can also operate it with nobody in it. — Or you can get in it. — Wow. — Um — it just supports itself while you — memory. So go watch the video. This is Unit's story. Let's let them tell it. But I um I said recently on WAN show that um there's a certain North American company that seems to be betting its entire future on humanoid robots. The battle is already lost. Like I can't believe how affordably Unitry is making its robots accessible. Have you looked at the price of the mech yet? Okay, cool. So obviously it's a lot of money obviously. — Yes. — But their humanoid robots have already like leapfrogged many other competitors in terms of accessibility, in terms of price performance. How much would you guess that mech cost just based on the little that you've seen of it and with a little bit of information, it being strong enough to punch cinder block walls over? It can walk on not just two legs, it can also walk on four legs and can be operated both with and without a pilot. What would you guess that something like that costs? — Got to be north of 100k. — I have no context at all for any pricing of any of this stuff. Um, part of me is going like north of 250, but then it's unitry, so I'm trying to game the system a little bit. If I had no context of the company, I think I'd be going north of 250 because I have a modicum, not that much, but a modicum of context of the company. — What if I told you Boeing made it, you know, or like North Rob Grin or whatever, like one of the big like military guys, — 750 if it's American military complex. I would jump there like immediately no matter what. — What do you think Unitry is charging for it? — $1. 99. — Okay. It's actually closer to your initial guess. — Okay. — But you can like buy it apparently for $650,000, which — yeah, — to me seems pretty cheap. Uh, I like I think your estimates for what like uh like an American military-industrial complex company, you're probably on the low side. — Probably 1. 5 to 2 million per at least. — Um, apparently none sold. I mean, — but that's the reason why I think it's so expensive is there's probably like four. — Uh, can like where would you even — if they were mass making this? I bet you they could get it cheaper. — Unitry Mecca. Okay. Like, can you even buy it yet? Unitry Mecca. Like, I don't actually see it for sale yet. GDO1. GDO1. Like, are you guys sure that nobody bought it yet? Cory says, I mean, nobody could buy it. Launches GD1 starting from Okay. Is like a giant transformer come to life, a blah blah. If you have $650,000 and don't buy this giant mecha robot, what are you doing? Uh, does anyone actually have like a an availability timeline for this thing? Oh my god, this site. What just happened? I was scrolling and then the whole article went away. Well, — it's a thing now. — Yeah, I know. Good luck with that. — Yeah. — Is it indexed on Google yet? Important question asks Anahe. Uh, who actually even needs this robot? What would you actually use it for? Knocking over unsecured cinder block walls is not a valid use case. I could see uh Okay. Oh. Oh, here. I could see like a performance spectacle like arena or something having one of these. Like if I was like a monster truck traveling show or something, I could see this mecca being like part of our like intermission. — Push a monster truck over
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— or it does something, you know, or we we like we jump a truck over it or whatever. Like I could see it being a like a fancy set piece. Um digital B11 says construction maybe. I give it another like 10, 20 years and then yeah, I could totally see something like this being used as just like an avatar style like you know like just grab stuff and move it around or whatever, but not today. Not today. Uh what else we got? — Cranes do be pretty good for that even because of like clearing obstacles. — This is true. — Cranes are like pretty good. — You don't always need to move like a whole pallet of whatever it is though. Sometimes it might be, — but sometimes you need to go like down into a pit that doesn't have a ramp. — Oh, definitely. — Like there's — I think you I don't think it's going to be instead of a crane. — Yeah, — I think this will be in addition to a crane. — Yeah. — Um, — forklift also do be pretty good. — Sir Soy Descent says as an oil field knuckle boom operator, this would be a way to disassemble structures. Now that's interesting. So for construction, yes, crane. For deconstruction, strong Mecca actually may be pretty useful. — Yeah. Okay. — Sure, that makes sense. — Yeah. WY giraffe says to unload the crane. Oh, yeah. Actually, that's like super valid. Like the final the last mile, you know, like the last — the last few meters carrying something with this could be very practical. Um, what else? Uh, Beggy says, "$650,000 just for a set piece. Sounds like someone has FU money. " — Yeah, I don't think there's going to be a lot of that. If you're if you're using it to make money and it's like you're the only place where someone can come see it or you charge people like if you charged people $1,000 for the experience of trying it and you could manage to make a viable business model out of that. I you only have to put $650 people in it before you get your investment back. Like it's I could see some commercial use of it possibly making sense. If I had more context of I'm on the Robo Store, official partner of Unit now. — Yeah. — And I'm seeing some of the prices of some of the things. — I think I would have been more accurate. — Yeah, I could have done the context for it. — Yeah. Yeah. — Yeah. Cuz I think uh like what's uh what was Tesla saying that they anticipated Optimus was going to sell for when they were doing their like revenue projections? — They said 100K. — Optimus. I mean, they've thrown different numbers around. But I also have no idea. — And I also lightly based it off of the Optimus being 100k thing, but I don't know what it's supposed to cost. — Projects the eventual retail price of Optimus humanoid robot will be between 20,000 and $30,000 at mass scale according to AI overview. Um and I mean like good luck with that. — But part of that problem is the whole mass scale thing. That's why I was saying like if unites made like four of those, of course they're going to cost that much or way more. But if they're trying to go through like mass manufacturing it, okay, they have their own store. Cool. — Uh, I got it. Meanwhile, Unitry has already leaprogged them in terms of price to performance. Like, it's kind of comical that um anyone is taking that kind of pricing estimate seriously. Uh, where is — I don't think this is a store. I think it's just their official site. Yeah, I don't see the I'm not getting the popup to translate the page. I don't know. — Oh, just go force the dots top right dots — and then most of the way down. — Where is it? There it is. — Yeah. And English. — Hello. — English. There you go. — There we go. So, I will just I will literally just I I've never tried to find it. I just reload the page and then usually it comes up. — Yeah. — Okay. user square action library. Where the bloody heck are the — I don't think this is a store. — I think it's like you have bought the thing and now you need to like do stuff with it place. — Oh, interesting. You can like get — Yeah. — actions and stuff. Oh, that's kind of cool. — Yeah. — I have not I've not played around with a unit robot yet. I should I want to. — There's ones on the robo store that look pretty cool. Or I shouldn't say I haven't played around with them at all. I did fight one. — There's one on sale right now. — What you got? — The G1. — Yep. — The low price of uh 10 of those phones. — Nice. Solid. Um I think they have a uh new one coming that looked pretty exciting. So I'm — Is it this one? Um
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I can't remember. It came up in um writer meeting a little while ago. — 3 kilogram arm load. So, you can do a lot of like chores around the house like that, but — sort of not really. — Not a ton more. You could do the dishes. — I mean, well Oh, sure. With that strength of like motors, yes, but not with the dexterity that they have now. — Ah, yeah. — And like the capability they have now. I was specifically only talking about its ability to like bear load. — Yeah, sure. I did this though. This was fun. — Yeah. Didn't you win this? — Spoilers. — Oh, — so this is the control scheme. — Punch. — Oh, — we made it look a lot more exciting in the edit than it um really was. But not many people watched this video. This did not resonate. it. I thought it was kind of a fun video, but anyway, — I think it's like space travel. — I guess I'll just drop Steam controllers instead. Yep. Apparently, — I think it's like space travel, though. If people aren't involved, it's like — But I was involved. — Yeah, but you were just outside. — Oh, so you want me to — actually boxing that guy? It probably would have gotten a bunch of views. — I see. Well, yeah, I know. Float plane crowd. Of course you guys watched it. you guys watch all the things, but it's the broader like YouTube audience that just did not engage with it. — WY draft, I' i'd pay $5 to watch it. — That makes sense. — All right, so now hold on a second. — If we could raise 20 grand for me to fight a G1, I bet we could raise 650 grand for me to fight a Mecca. — Oh, I mean it would break you. — But I What a way to go. How hard would it be to knock over an unsupported cinder block wall? — Uh, I mean, it would it would be hitting pretty hard. — Like, if you got hit by something that size that was moving with enough speed and coordination to knock over — suck. — Yeah, it would not be good. — Yeah. — Like it would like break your bones. — Maybe. — Like if they were your face bones. — Maybe. — Oh, I don't think that's a maybe, sir. I think that's a pretty solid Yeah, would break your face. — Well, it depends like is this thing hitting. I'm losing the physics terms for this moment of action is stuck in my head, — but it's like, can it like do this in order to push the center block wall over, or is it like — Oh, like a like a momentary application of force. — Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, cuz that's what is going to break your bone, right? — Impact force, impulse force, kinetic momentum. Is it more of a push? Yeah. push or is it more of a strike — here? — It's in the video. Okay, — let's find it. All right, here. We're just going to cheat and watch it. Okay, ready? — Yeah. — Oh, hold on. No, I went to the wrong spot. — Cuz I am kind of interested. — Okay, you're interested in me fighting it. — Notice how No, no. Notice how high up the wall they interacted with. Yeah. Like, there's a lot of different things that can influence this. — Hold on. Here we go. — Yeah. — Okay. That's a strike. — That is a strike, but it's also like the very tippy top of a very tall and thin wall. It's not that it's not really cool. That would break your bone. — It's not that it's not really cool. — That would break your jaw. your jaw. — For sure. — I just — I wouldn't want to get hit by it. — No, I'm not saying I Yeah. Like it it struck it. It did not push it over. that we can say for sure. And yes, it was very high up. You guys are 100% right. Um, all right. What else we got today? — Oh, Dan wants me to do more sponsors now. Guess what, Dan? No. — Owned. — Okay, got them. — Owned. — Cyber security tip of the day. Install a Russian language pack on your computer. Uh, we were talking about Lori Wired a little while ago and she's super based. Um, so I was just reading a tweet from her. Um, earlier this week, Microsoft Threat Intelligence posted to Twitter that they were investigating the Mistral AI uh, how the devil do I pronounce this? — Uh, oh jeez, I've only read it. PIP. — Sure. Package. Uh, I'm going to go with PP v2. 4. 6 compromise. In their post, they noticed that the attack avoids Russian language environments. Lori Wired retweeted the post with the most loweffort, highreward thing that you can do for security is installing the Russian language pack. Not even joking. It's ridiculous how often this
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prevents execution. This was also something that was noted by Brian Krebs previously with ransomware samples. Discussion question, Luke, do we need to install the Russian language pack on all work systems immediately? — Uh, as far as my language goes, or understanding goes, we're probably fine. But — it's not a bad idea. It's not a terrible idea. It might also be super freaking annoying. — Why though? Cuz you can install a language pack and then just never look at it or think about it again. — Is that one of those ones where it can change? No. The language pack wouldn't change your keyboard. Eh, would it change your keyboard? — Nope. — Okay. — But I mean, yeah. — And you can just set Windows to your primary language being what it is, but they will just apparently the these malares will just be like, "Oh, is Russian maybe do not install whatever. I'm not going to try and do a Russian accent in Soviet Russia. Malware installs you. " like I whatever, don't worry about it. Um, so I just wanted to throw this out there for the W show watching people. According to Lori and Brian Krebs, um, and also Microsoft Thread Intelligence, install a Russian language pack, which back in the day used to be something that you had to pay for, but nowadays is something that you can just go into Windows Update and you can just select a language pack and install it. And apparently it will reduce your uh exposure to cyber security threats which seems like a zero hassle highreward potentially thing to do. So and I can't wait for people to start getting viruses because they start googling Russian language pack for Windows. — Okay. Just get it in Windows update. — I'm try how do I Okay. advanced options. Maybe I don't really use Windows much anymore. — Okay, here. Sorry, it's not Windows update. It's in time and language. Add a language. And then you just go for There you go. All right. There you go. — Add a language. — It's that easy. It's that fast. Go for it. Uh hey, here's another cool one. We had an LTT Labs article go up. I think it was either today or yesterday. — One's sick. — Um, — they're all sick. — What's up with UPSes? — We have one since — with UPS's. Um, our company has always had many UPS's around for the convenience and business case of not suddenly losing a ton of work. Thank you, Lucas. That is a very matterof fact observation. Um, so blah blah, etc. We uh we want to check them out further but have been wary of connecting them to any measurement equipment considering the high voltages involved. Despite that, we're throwing caution to the wind to check out some UPS's from around the office. So, it's not a comprehensive look at, you know, which UPS is the best UPS, but it's more of a like laying the groundwork for what are they, what do they do, uh what might be characteristics of one that could be uh more desirable. And it's kind of like a primer on us taking the time to grab some measurements, make some cool visualizations, and maybe expand on it further if this is something that people are interested in learning more about. The first thing that I said when I saw Lucas's preliminary work on it was like, "Oh, that should be an LT video. " Like, we always say on LT, "You should have a UPS. We never tell you which one to buy because I've never been comfortable enough other than saying like, "Yeah, I don't know, get an APC or an Opt UPS or an Eaton. Like it'll probably be fine. " Like any of the big three brands are probably okay, but I don't actually know which one is better — or like how much you have to spend to get like a good one. — I don't know if we're actually doing it. We do lots of different things and we change our mind and direction often. But, uh, I was talking to Lucas in relation to this article about how Scrapyard Wars used to be such a nightmare here because you and I would test in the offices — and be working on our systems in the offices, then have to come out into the warehouse, usually the workshop set, but let's just say warehouse in general, and like, you know, benchmark them against each other, and then they would start failing. — And you and I would both always swear that our systems were stable. Then we'd go back inside to work on them and they'd be stable again. — The biggest one was when it happened with Austin Evans. — Yes. — His system was apparently stable when running off of a UPS and then — Well, it was stable when running off of the wall power in the office, — was it? Okay. — And then was stable when running off a UPS in the warehouse, but not when
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running off of the wall power in the warehouse. — That's right. Okay. Yeah. So, I was I was poking and being like, it could be kind of interesting to go check out those plugs because I doubt they've changed much. — Uh I don't think that transformer has ever been replaced. — I doubt it. So, I'm assuming that the in office ones are still — Yeah. — better cuz we always refer to it as like dirty power. — And that was enough for me to understand — that power bad, this power good. But that's it. I don't understand beyond that really what's going on. So, it could be like purity of the sine wave. — No, like I get the vague concept. — How long of a how much of a delay there is in the switch over to battery power. Like there's a bunch of things that like — why is it better in there and worse out there. — Um I think those two spaces are running off of different transformers because that office space is two blended units — and one of the transformers is more loaded than the other one. If I recall correctly, it was just when we were converting it Rod said, "And I had a crazy boot issue during Scrappford Wars and all of a sudden it started working. " — Yeah. — Like there's something — going on. — Well, we that set has a UPS that lives on it permanently now. So, the power to the table is always running through UPS now. So, we haven't had any problems in a long time. But, yeah, I'd be very curious, — man. Maybe if the UPS content goes well, we can move into uh building transformer content so we can find the best building transformer and replace. — Yeah, probably not. for the seven people that would be interested. — Yeah. I mean, hey, like if I was a contractor, then I'd be very interested to know um how bad the cheap you the cheap uh transformer that I'm still definitely going to use is. — That's the problem. — Anyway, go check it out at ltlabs. com. — And we've even uh launched an article since then. — Oh, what? — 7 hours ago. — I missed that. What's the new one? — Two is better than one. — Oh, on the B60. you knew about this one. You might just not have known the time. Uh cuz it released today. — Yeah, there's the labs articles are coming strong and fast. So check them out. — Yeah, this thing's cool. It's been a long time since I've seen a dual GPU card like this. — Yeah. Intel Arc Pro B60 dual 48 gig Turbo. — I like that Turbo's in there. That's sick. — Turbo. — Bring back Turbo. — All right, Dan. and I'll do the other sponsors now. Then we've got more topics for you guys. It's kind of a loaded show today. The show is brought to you by Motion Gray. Whether you're gaming or working, sitting at a desk for hours on end can lead to a sore back or uh for being honest, a little too much sweat buildup. So, it can be nice to stand up from time to help alleviate some of that discomfort and uh swamp. But Motion Gray's Erggo 2 Pro sitstand desk is an affordable option to bring more comfort to your workstation. No matter what size you go with, Motion Gray's Erggo 2 supports up to 176 lb. And each desk comes with dual legs for stability and uses German Bosch motors for a smoother height adjustment. The Ergo 2 arrives in a single box, so you don't have to worry about the legs arriving days before the desk. And everything you need to assemble, including the necessary tools, is packaged with the desk. Grab your Motion Gray Erggo Pro or Erggo 2 Pro, excuse me, at our link in the video description. We'll have that down below. The show is also brought to you by XSplit. If streaming or recording yourself playing games is a hobby that you've been meaning to pick up, but you don't know where to start, check out XSplit. Dan, are there split? There we go. It's a service that has plenty of tools for streaming and video production that can help get you going free of charge. It works with most of the major platforms like Twitch, YouTube, and plenty more. So, that means you can show off your personality with GIFs and videos overlaid a top of your gameplay. Plus, with premium, you can stream to multiple platforms and unlock an unlimited number of scenes. It can even be used for things like business presentations or virtual meetings. So, don't wait. Go to lmg. gg/xsplitwan gg/xsplitwan to try it for free today or use code wanhow30 to save 30% off your first subscription. Uh, speaking of streaming and subscriptions and stuff, Elijah came into my office in like a major huff over apparently there's some drama with like the plugins for Twitch chat like stuff happening on this stream or something like that. Does anyone else have any context for this? — No, not even slightly. I have no idea what you're talking about. — Is it — What's Twitch? — Um — uh Stream Elements. — Is that it? Stream Elements. Okay. — Stream Elements drama. — Stream Elements. — Is Stream Elements in trouble? Stream Elements shutting down. — Yeah. Stream Elements and talks
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with potential acquirers to avoid impending bankruptcy. and he was like pretty upset about it cuz apparently the alternative to it is like not very good or something and a lot of people are like oh well I would have given more money to stream elements if I'd known that they needed money but then like they clearly didn't but then like stream elements apparently raised like and this is from Elijah so I don't know if this is true but they raised $100 million and they've burned through that in the last like three or four years so I don't know how they managed to burn through that much money doing like I don't know things that like happening on your screen with Twitch chats. Um I mean I guess the API cost would probably be reasonably high. — There's — but like the whole thing seems like uh seems like a giant boatload of fails. So feel free to go look into that if you want a rabbit hole, but it's not in our notes today cuz it's not good news when in other good news though, MIT researchers have revived a 40-year-old triangular zipper concept that is now made possible by 3D printing. Researchers at MIT's computer science and artificial intelligence laboratory built the Yzipper, a three-sided zipper that snaps three floppy 3D printed arms into a rigid triangular tube using a flex rigid transition mechanism enabling the zippers to interlock. The concept dates back to 1985, patented by MIT professor William Freeman, but manufacturing couldn't be done until modern 3D printing caught up. It works because triangles are inherently rigid. So, same principles as like bridges, trusses, and cranes. Software lets users design what the zipped shape becomes. And you can make a straight rod, an arch, a coil, or screw like twists. So, come — I'm not going to lie, I don't really understand. — Check this out. — Oh my god. — What for? And I would love to see an application of it. It's really cool. — Yeah. Here we go. — Here we go. the why zipper. — Oh, there's some cool examples. — Luke Luke's first question. Why? — There is a there is a pretty cool example at like uh 1 minuteish almost 1 minute. 50 seconds. — Uh-huh. — The tent. — Yeah. — You just kind of zip down the rigid poles. — Yeah. — It's kind of neat. — I don't know, man. It seems pretty cool. Stuff like this is just neat. I don't I'm not saying like it has to have like a really strong reason, but I would just love to see someone find like a really good application for it just to see what they do. — So, the entire system arms and slider is 3D printed from common polymers. They tested PLA for better load bearing and TPU for more flexibility. And the video demo includes an adjustable wrist cast that can be tightened or made loose easily. mechanical blooming flower for art and design. A quadriped robot with legs that retract, lowering the robot's body to get it under obstacles in front of it. — Interesting. — And as rods to deploy a tent. — Uh, our discussion question is, if a 40-year-old zipper concept can be revived today, what other failed or forgotten historical patents do you think are waiting for modern tech to bring them to life? — Break out Leonardo's drawings, dude. Done. I think probably my favorite um my favorite old um technology idea that didn't work out is this thing. This thing is crazy. — Yeah. — And this is a I think this is the video. Yeah. This is a great video and you should go watch it because this thing was real. — This was working. — The why for this one was efficiency, right? Cuz you have less wheels on the ground so there's less friction. — Uh no, it was cost — because it's uh it's cheaper to lay a single rail — Oh. — than two. — I thought it was like effectively fuel conservation. — Uh no, not that. It was the initial laying of the track and the way that they do like cool animations and everything for how all of this worked. Um like you can here you can see like hints as to sort of how the thing worked. I'm not going to show you everything. It used like pneumatics and stuff. It was so flipping cool. You guys should go watch this video on primal space. Uh incredible video. But pretty much the reason it doesn't work is it used uh to selfbalance it used a giant spinning mass that's like — okay — lot of energy. — Yeah. — Scary amount of energy.
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— So the opposite of what I was thinking because now you have to spin this giant freaking thing. — Um it's more just like if anything goes wrong goes wrong. Yeah. — Um — train crash. Now there's this enormous mass flying around. Yeah. Hey, um, someone was talking about gyroscopically stable things. I am probably getting my motorcycle in like a week. — Oh, — or two. — There you go. — Maybe two. The um the part that was supposed to arrive, I think I gave you guys an update on this a little while ago. The part that was supposed to arrive was like CNCed overseas. And the guy calls me um earlier this week and he goes or like I texted him. He's like, "Hey, do you have time for a call? " which is never good news. And he goes, "Look, the part that I've been waiting for like for two months to finish this project, it arrived and the hole for like the ignition is in the wrong spot. It doesn't work. " And I was like, "Oh, well, like how complicated is this part? Like I have like a $40,000 CNC and like a handful of operators for it. " He's like, "You got to be me. " I'm like, "Yeah, no, like I got my guys and like we've got like a like I think it's like five axis or something. " He's like, you got to be me. And uh and I'm like, "Yeah, no. I mean, do you want me to just put you in touch with one of my guys and you can like show them the part? " And like, so Sebastian uh from the creator warehouse team, I was like, "Hey, look, just like I don't know, give me like your contractor rate. This is not work. So, you know, it's not work, so whatever. We'll we'll work it out outside of work. " Um but like is this something that you want that you're able to tackle? He's like, "Oh, yeah, sure. " So he um so like Vance went and got it. So that was one day. By the next day, Sebastian had 3D printed a mockup of like a fix for it to like make it mount properly. And then Sebastian on his way, we had an early dismissal Friday today. Um so he like stopped by today and is like talking about the solution with the motorcycle shop and then figures he can probably like make it by like next week. And so then they just have to do final assembly. He says it looks sick. I haven't seen any in progress yet. Cuz I was like, "No, no, I want to be surprised. " Uh Sammy is apparently going to do a float plane exclusive of me taking delivery of this bike after 3 years. Uh and I want to make it really, really clear. This is not the shop's fault. — Yeah, it was mostly painting. — Yeah, mostly. It just took me forever to paint it and I did some stuff wrong and I got some paint in some threads and various things. Um, they have probably contributed a handful of delays, but the vast bulk of it was me. And honestly, I'm just impressed that they've stuck with me for this long to get this thing done. Um, so I'm very excited to have my bike back. Uh, do you want to pick a topic? — Yeah, let's keep it in the 3D printing world. Innovative startup pioneers 3D printing with recycled glass. New binder jet process combines powder with adhesive agent in layering technique. Uh, Vitraform 3D is a Knoxville startup tackling the 8 million tons of glass US landfills receive yearly by 3D printing with recycled postconumer glass. Unlike conventional recycling, their process skips energyintensive melting and isn't picky about color or grade. Really, it's not picky about color. — Well, you can be. You can sort by color, but you don't have to. So, you could just do this. Okay, neat. Um, their patent pending binder jetting technology, what a sentence, uh, works like this. The waste glass is ground into a fine powder. There's a thin layer of glass powder spread across the build spectrum platform. — Not sure where you got that word from, but — not a single clue. Uh, inkjet style nozzles deposit a binder/adhesive only where material should bond based on that 3D model. uh and then repeat layer by layer to build the 3D object. The finished piece is then fired in an oven. Like that makes sense. Like pottery to set its final shape. The end product is classified as engineered stone. — I mean, yeah, glass is just raw. — Yeah, that makes sense. It's just interesting. Roughly 90 to 95% recycled glass and 5 to 10% polymer binder. Turning the binder chemistry, tuning the binder chemistry was the core of the R& D challenge. And the process works with almost any powder, metal, ceramic, or glass. Wow. Interesting. They're backed by the US Department of Energy to develop fireresistant cladding as a next-gen building material. Neat. Actual recycling is cool. There is a lot of we're going to recycle this straight into the landfill. Um, so — yeah. Or straight into a container that we try to ship overseas that they then send back. — Yeah. Or that. — Yeah. — Yep. There's a lot of that going around. — There's a ton of that going on. So, uh, actual recycling sounds awesome. — Our discussion question is, given the severe health hazards of handling microscopic glass powder, is this
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something that should probably stay an industrial technology as opposed to trying to scale it down for consumers? — Oh, like 3D printing at home? — Yeah, I think this is maybe not for general consumers. And that's probably okay. — That's fine. Not everything has to be in our home — garage. Yeah. — Lab. — Yeah. — Um — but maybe — Oliver DK. Yeah. In float plane chat based take. Glass in general. Pretty cool. — It is pretty freaking cool. — Glass is amazing. Did Have you ever done like glass blowing? — No, but I've always thought it's pretty interesting. — Do it. — I always thought it must be insanely hard. Is it insanely hard? — Well, yeah. — Yeah. But like if you uh we did like we did one that had like an introductory like friendly for kids kind of thing where you just you make like a little bobble and you should do it. I saw there was a I don't remember what type of content this was, but I saw somebody doing glass blowing where they would get like driftwood — and then they would do like a big I don't know bulb while doing glass blowing and then would droop it over the driftwood and then it would be like a vase that would kind of morph itself around the driftwood and it looked super cool. I have no idea how I would find that. Um but it looked awesome. Holton glass on driftwood. — That is not what it looks like, but it looks like it's the same concept. — Yeah, this is not it. — Okay. Well, I mean, — but it's a similar concept. — Amazon was unlikely to be the solution you were going to like anyway. — Yeah. Uh, — okay. Here, let's — I wasn't even just being biased against Amazon, though. — Do you see anything here that resembles — more similar to me? Uh, not really. More similar to that one — to this one. — Yeah. And that is on Amazon, but it was like more of a branch-like thing, not like a stump of wood. — Okay. — Uh I don't know. Whatever. Glass blowing is cool. — All right. Yeah. No. — Yeah. More like those. A little bit more like those. Still not really like those, but yes. More like that, I think. — Okay. — That's just kind of neat. — I mean, yeah, that's cool. These are cool. — Yeah. Yeah. We're getting more close to what I was doing. — Okay. All right. I'm trying. I'm cooking. — That looks very much closer to it. — Okay. All right. Cool. All right. We've kind of apparently it's a thing. — I didn't know that many glass thing is a thing. — I mean, we live in the world of like Pinterest, right? — Basically, everything's a thing because of that. Yeah. — Um, there's this is a new thing. There's a new Starlink policy that requires a passport check, a live portrait, and these are for international use. Uh, update the travel registration support page is 404 now. Okay, interesting. So, Starlink just rolled out a new travel registration policy requiring customers using the service outside of their registered home country to submit their full legal name, nationality, date of birth, passport number, a copy of their passport, and a live portrait selfie. Failure to register within 25 days, results in the service being disabled abroad. The pop-up has been appearing for US and Canadian customers, including some who have never traveled internationally, and it's reportedly triggered by owning the portable Starlink Mini, which works with the Rome plan, uh, 60 days per trip internationally. SpaceX has not officially commented, but the move is possibly a crackdown on malicious actors like scammers in Myanmar, Latin American drug cartels, and this is a given SpaceX's uh sort of history with the conflict in Ukraine. Russian military forces, this seems like a likely one, who have all been caught using Starlink. Some customers suspect that this is kind of a know your customer compliance situation. Concerns about this, however, include confusion for users without passports, fears that the popup is a scam given the sensitive info that's requested, and the inverse or the opposite of that or a related concern is that if this is something that people know to expect, then scammers going and pretending to be SpaceX and asking for this information could be pretty scary. — This Sorry, I thought you were done — there. Nope. There was also a situation where at least one boat user, Bruce Tol, reported that his service was cut off before the 25-day deadline, mid voyage, and he was only able to restore it because he still had cell coverage, luckily. Um, and then also just general privacy concerns like in general. What else we got? — Uh, well, I just I think
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you know how there was a lot of stuff recently. There was some about ubiquity. There's some going on right now about a Canadian firearms manufacturer making sniper rifles and their sniper rifles were found in Russian military hands. — Um there's the ubiquity thing, stuff like that. And people are calling for like, hey, you need to better control, you know, the distribution of your products. — But I mean, are we asking for government overreach? Yeah, — it kind of feels that way to me. — But then like sometimes it is also like well yeah, you probably should — not have Canadian sniper rifles killing Ukrainians. — This is maybe the pendulum swinging too far, — but then at the same time, Starlink in Russian military hands right now would be benefiting them tremendously. And it was a big deal when it was shut down for them. So like — it's tough. But what's the famous quote? Those who give up their freedom for liberty deserve neither. — Is that is that the quote? Did I get it right? — I think it's will get neither. — Those who give up freedom for security deserve neither. That's it apparently. Or those who give up liberty for safety. Quote. Okay. Ben Franklin. The exact quote is those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Um, yeah. Yeah. — Is that relevant here? Not at all. I think it is super relevant. — And it's not the equivalent of a SIM card. I can get a SIM card with no identification at all. — Yes. You can land in an airport and buy a SIM card and just slap it in your phone and have no — This is one of those times when the slippery slope argument is not a fallacy because it becomes not a fallacy when there is solid precedent for the slope leading to a particular destination. And in this case, um, giving a government the ability to decide whether crucial communication infrastructure works or not, or never mind a government, also a commercial entity that could be controlled by another government or other entity. giving somebody else control of crucial infrastructure is like bad and it often leads to very bad things. And if luckily you happen to live in a society that is free enough that hasn't been a problem for you personally, then that's really good. And people around the world, I'm sure, are very happy for you. Uh, but there are plenty of folks in places like Hong Kong who would love to have a word with you about how awful it can be when their ability to communicate and organize uh can be turned on and off at a whim. Um, and I'm sure the Iranians would also agree um that this can have very negative outcomes. Um, and the more that you give up, uh, the greater the likelihood of those outcomes. — Yeah, Iran has Starlink service. Um, so did Russia. — Yeah, until someone turned it off. And uh, I was talking about the government uh, limiting internet access in Iran. Also, I believe owning a Starlink. — Sorry, I'm responding to full plane chat. No, I know. But I So I Yes, Starlink does allow service there, but from my understanding, owning a Starlink dish there is a crime at this point in time. Um, so giving another outside entity the ability to turn on or off your communications infrastructure, I think hopefully most people can recognize given that there are concrete examples where that has been a very big problem that is not something that we generally want. Um, yikes. Uh yeah, Persian tech guy says owning Starlink is indeed illegal in Iran right now. Um Curious Brad says Iran is actively jamming Starlink signals domestically as well. Um yeah, Persian tech guy, we Iranians do agree. So just because you're lucky enough that you are not being um oppressed enough yet does not mean that we should just kind of go, "Oh well, this is fine. The flip side of it being, do I want Canadian rifles killing Ukrainians? — No. But should we put a chip on every gun that has GPS tracking and you can't pull the trigger if it's in certain geographical regions? Uh, I mean that's — Wy draft. You're saying Russian military
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was killing people because of Starlink. Ukraine military is currently killing people with Starlink. Yeah, — lots of I'm sure they're not shut off too. Like this is like where is the fact that the line is not set by you is the whole part of the reason problem that we're currently discussing. — Yes. — And it's it's an uncomfortable conversation. — Yeah. — It's a western network. Okay. I mean, we're never going to see eye to eye here, and that's okay. But like, yeah, — I mean, what does Western mean? The West is the West until the West isn't the West. I mean, — it's also not a Western network. — The NATO The NATO alliance is not exactly as concrete today as it was. — It's a company 10 years ago. — It's not a government service. It's it's not I don't think you can necessarily say it's a western network. He's saying like, should we enable our enemies? It's like, well, Whose enemies? — It's up to — Whose enemies? — Yeah, exactly. It's up to a company. — Yeah. And like and what does western even mean right now? Nothing is that simple right now. Sorry. Good news when show. Um — yeah, we should move on. — Uh Linux gains some more critical Windows apps including 3D Movie Maker and Space Cadet Pinball. Two classic mid1990s Windows apps have been officially ported to Linux. Space Cadet Pin Pinball, which was originally part of the Microsoft Plus pack for Windows 95, was decompiled and rebuilt by Musachchenko and ported to 14 different platforms. The Linux build is now available on FlatHub. And uh Oracle Linux developer Steven Brennan also recently blogged about getting it running on Linux. This is in a word based. Also, — you guys should edit a movie. — There's an even well uh Have you ever used 3D Movie Maker? — No. — Yeah. Uh not how that works. Um in even bigger news, 3D Movie Maker has come to Linux. Microsoft open sourced it back in 2022, but it sat mostly untouched um until registry readers Mark Cave Aland and Ben Stone spent roughly 15 months on a fork called 3D MMEX. — Wow. After the original 3DMM uh 3DMMF forever project stalled, beyond a native Linux port, they added 64bit support, bug fixes, ARM 64 Windows builds, native file dialogues, MIDI music via fluid synth, and a Gstreamer powered video player. A Raspberry Pi version is in the works. — Uh, so is it I'm looking at the video now. Is it like source movie maker where you like have to use their like little characters and stuff? — So, I actually am not sure because one of the problems that I had with 3D Movie Maker was that at the time almost nobody had a microphone. So, I could only use the handful of audio clips that were included. And maybe it had other capabilities, — props, sounds, words, scenes. So maybe it had other capabilities if you also had other accessories, but we couldn't really like do that much with it, — right? — Um, but yeah, there's like walking animations and like — Wow. — Yeah. — I don't know if I ever saw anything that was the output of this. I definitely like never even opened that. — Uh oh, it was not included. This was like paid software. — Oh, wow. — Yeah. And there was like uh there was like quests and stuff like you could click on like you could go to different places in like kind of the like the the studio campus and like find collectibles. Um — here let me see if I can find — um here's a video from DOSTM that says there's still nothing like Microsoft 3D Movie Maker. Um 23 23,000 views. Yeah, this guy was funky. And you could do all kinds of stuff. Yeah, like you could set up your scene and Yeah, I remember these stock characters, man. They had like a handful of outfits each. You could have them talk to each other and like you could make them die and stuff. like grow really big and then explode. There was like an explode effect. There's all kinds of cool stuff. And now you can run it on Linux for the dozens of people who want to do that. I just it was a part of my childhood. I have multiple core memories sitting around the computer with my siblings making the you know the baby explode or whatever after it does
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something just goofing around. It's a fun creativity tool that in some ways — encourages additional creativity due to it being so rudimentary and so limited, if you kind of get what I mean. Like in some ways the ability to do anything um it's like AI the ability to just kind of say, "Yeah, make this is less rewarding than using a crummy tool to try to make something good. " If that kind of makes sense. Uh, speaking of um, you know, crappy AI outputs, uh, AMD put up a pretty horrible AI generated ad, which is not good news. So, instead, we're going to talk about an AMD related thing that is good news. AMD listened. FSR 4. 1 is coming to RDNA 3 and then later to RDNA 2. The feature is going to be enabled through a driver update, uh, bringing support to older cards supporting INT8 instructions as opposed to the FP8 version that was used on RDNA4. It's expected to drop in July for Radeon 7000 cards and then sometime in early 2027 for RDNA 2 cards. An intate version of FSR 4. 0 was leaked in 2025, which users were able to get running using tools like Optiscaler. Um but AMD had until now not committed to bringing FSR4 to these older cards. Uh this change by AMD will bump that support to FSR 4. 1 which does improve image quality versus FSR 4. 0. Our discussion question is everyone liked that. What are some other times that a company backported features to an older product and it was pretty cool? Um you know what? I'm going to throw Microsoft a bone. We've given them a lot of flack for the last couple of months. I think it was pretty cool when Windows 8 sucked and they said, "Okay, here's Windows 10 for free. Here's a free upgrade. " That's kind of It's not really like backporting a feature. It's kind of taking your old computer that was Windows 8 and backporting all the Windows 10 features to it. So, I'm You know what? I'm standing by it. You got anything? Maybe chat can let us know if they can think of anything. — I'm rapidly typing in chat. Can you rephrase the question? Um, what are other times that a company backported features to an older product and it was cool and everyone liked it? Didn't AMD uh hasn't AMD done this in the past? Um, yeah, — I'm not going to be able to name like super specific examples, but I think AMD has done this in the past. AMD has a bit of a precedent of supporting platforms for a long time and bringing things to them, bringing things back to them. Nvidia also brought some of their newer features back, older cards. They've done I think uh I think they've made a pretty good faith effort to support the RTX promises of the 20th of the 20 series even though the hardware was just like not there yet. Um they haven't always done a perfect job, but I think they've done pretty okay. Solid B. Uh there was um there was something in the chat that I had wanted to that I'd wanted to talk about. No, I missed it. Oh, right. No, you reminded me. Yeah. AMD's uh track record of supporting products for a long time. We've got a really cool video coming. We're gonna put the newest AM4 processor in the oldest AM4 board and then we're gonna like benchmark it against that same processor in the newest AM4 board and see if you bought the right AM4 board 10 years ago, can you literally buy a chip today and upgrade your computer and what are the downsides of that? — It's going to be pretty cool. — Yeah, that is pretty sweet actually. — Yeah. Uh, one of our newer writers, uh, Michael is working on that project. So, it's, uh, and then, uh, Pancratz is helping him out with some of the testing. My labs might be actually helping out as well. I'm not sure about that. — Are you still arguing with float plane chat? — Yes. — It's okay. Don't make me We'll be friends in the end. — I'll put you in timeout. — It's okay. We're fine. — Okay. If you type anymore to float plane chat right now, I'm putting you in timeout. — I've put other people in timeout today. Float plane chat's spicy today. I don't know what's going on. It must be a full moon or something. — It's been interesting. — Yeah. And for once, this is wild. I'm not arguing with anyone. It's like I feel like the kid like, "Mom, dad, stop fighting for the first time ever. " So, Dan, this is what it feels like. — You do get used to it. — What? Mom and dad fighting or Yeah.
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Oh, okay. — And then you have this like smuggness. — You have smuggness. Like — And like you're just watching. — You're watching Yeah. — Big smugness. — Yeah. Big like I mean, he's the one doing the gesture. I'm just — right. — Pair of smug. — All right. Thank you. — And you're just watching you. You — class dismissed. Um, — Meta employees have launched a protest against mouse tracking technology at their US offices. This one is I want to say — you got to stay tuned on this one because at the beginning it's like you're thinking it's like mouse jigglers or something like that. It's so much worse. Stay tuned. And the reason that this belongs in Good News WAN show is because I have massive respect for the Meta employees that are speaking out right now for reasons that I'll get to in a minute. Okay. So, on May 12th, Meta employees distributed flyers at multiple US offices to protest the company's recent installation of mouse tracking software on their computers, pushing for colleagues to sign an online petition against it. The tracking tool is called model capability initiative or MCI and it logs mouse movements, clicks, keystrokes, and occasional screenshots of work-related applications in order to not monitor if you're working, but in order to train Meta's AI models. Meta's justification for this is that it is building agents to do everyday computer tasks, so its models need real examples of how people actually use computers. Spokesperson Andy Stone added that the data isn't used for anything else with safeguards in place for sensitive content. With that said, employees expect that the data is used to train the models that will replace them. This protest is landing just before Meta lays off 10% of its staff or about 8,000 people on May 20th. So that's in 5 days. While also cancelling plans to hire for another 6,000 open roles. All of this is happening while Meta plans to spend up to $135 billion on AI infrastructure this year, building toward what Zuckerberg calls personal super intelligence for its 3 and a half billion daily users. The protest has also spread to the UK where users are organizing through the United Tech and Allied Workers Union with organizer Elellanar Payne accusing executives of pursuing speculative AI strategies while forcing staff to endure quote draconian surveillance unquote to train the very systems meant to replace them. Boy, is there ever a lot to unpack here. So pretty wild. On the eve of mass layoffs, people are speaking out and taking action against this draconian surveillance. Massive respect there. Um, the fact that Meta is treating their employees as like a as training data is sort of next level unhinged. Um, like I'm trying to Okay, Luke, hit me with something here. Stop arguing. What would be work? I don't need to see the screen. — I'm putting in time out. — Can I put another admin? — I'm I can just remove it. I'll time out the people you're talking to then. — No, no, no. All right, then. Stop. — They're good people. — Okay, — we just got confused. They're good people. — What's worse, Luke? What's worse? If Meta was doing this to their user base or staff, who at least they pay? — Just doing it to both. — Well, I know, but no, no, no. Just for the sake of having a moral argument right now, like I just I want to hear your perspective. I value your perspective. That's all. I respect you. — What would Okay, let's say it was me. Okay, in our hypothetical scenario, it's me. I'm building I'm I I need I just need footage of people, you know, wanking it. What's better? If I record my staff who happen to be paid porn performers. — Okay. — Right. Cuz they were going to wank it anyway. Right. So, you're trying to train an AI bot because you're going to be selling sex robots in the future — or my users who are wanking it at home and it's in the toos. Like, it's either way, you know, I was allowed to do it. Which one's worse? That's what I want to know. — I think it depends on how — 603 in the chat says, "Say no more. I'm your man. "
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A Gilmore D. Why did I know you were going to say that, Linus? cuz you've been watching W show for too long. — Yeah. Um, — jiggle all the things. — Yeah. — Which one's worse? — I'm trying. I think it depends on how explicitly communicated it is because if it's a meta service and it's explicitly communicated to the user, you can just not — Sorry, did you say nut or not? — In this case, both. Realistically, you're picking one or the other. Um, but you I mean I have a really hard time believing unless you're an influencer of some kind that Instagram is a requirement to your life. — M — okay. Yeah, I can see that. — But you need a job. — But you do need a job. But you could work somewhere else. — Maybe job market's really bad. — See, — economy is wrecked and the job market's really bad. — Can I tell you? And maybe this is maybe if I was going to put on my lizard brain hat, right? I would feel ickier about my employees because — if you had to watch someone wank. — No, no, no. — You'd rather not know them. — No, I don't mean the watching. I just mean the like the using of them. — Well, that's what they're doing. They're using their employees to train some data set cuz they know that it's one of the only clean act clean data sources. — As a reminder poisoned now, — do they provide the tissues to clean the data set? — As a reminder, in this scenario, I have to pick one of them. So I can't just say bad. I'm just reiving that context cuz some people are going to be like uh — like I cuz with an employee even if I've never actually interacted with them cuz let's say I work I I run a company that has tens of thousands of employees or whatever like with them there was at least a pen and paper version of a handshake that exists between me and them. We have like a we have like some level of mutualism in our relationship whereas I feel like well I guess the users that too but like I don't have to look in the whites of their eyes at an all hands meeting. I don't know. I'm just to me it feels ickier to use the people who are directly benefiting you every day through the labor that they contribute to your organization. But then again the users are directly benefiting you as well and that's pretty icky too. In fact, like they could be more dependent on you. Like a like an Instagram influencer. Such a great example that I wouldn't have thought of, but they're super dependent on the platform. — It's a job. Yeah, — it is a job. And you don't have to like that job. You could think it's stupid or whatever and that's fine. That's your opinion. But like that doesn't change that for some people and more importantly where your argument falls apart for the people who work for those people it is very much a job. You can argue all day that my job shouldn't be a job. being YouTuber, blah blah. It's stupid. Go get a real job. But everybody who works for me has a real job. Like Dan, — well, he had a real job. He apparently left it. Don't worry about that. The point is — people with very real jobs work for Linus Media Group, Inc. And the same would be true of Instagram. That's a really good point. — Yeah. — Like, — so it's hard to it's hard to So for most users, I see Instagram as very non-essential, right? Not only is it non-essential, but there are alternative platforms that do like almost the same thing. So, but then it's not true for everyone. — And it's not always possible to just switch over. Not every Viner su succeeded on another platform. — Oh, no. I'm talking uh pure viewers. — Oh, pure viewers. Sure. — Yeah. — Okay. — Uh like I don't think you can argue that any of those things is like essential. Although I have heard that a lot of people are using Tik Tok as search now. — That's a terrible idea. — I've I don't have it. I have no idea. But — I mean based on how much like horrible AI slop misinformation we found the last time we did like a Tik Tok tech hacks video. You shouldn't search anything on Tik Tok. Somebody recently was asking me like what's my primary media source and I said that it was YouTube and they're like oh what do you mostly use it for? And I was like honestly I think like learning things most the most of the content that I watch is like information or education included. My goodness. Oh my god. What is this? — Uh it's me doing a Tik Tok dance. — Oh yeah. — This is some crazy next level crazy Adam intro energy here. Don't worry about it. Yeah, — don't overthink it. — Um, — yeah. — And they were like, "Oh, yeah. I do that, too. " Like uh for like fixing
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things and whatnot. I was like, "Oh, yeah, sure. " Like I you know, we were taking apart my washing machine and I just watched some YouTube video of a appliance repair person taking apart the washing machine. And they're like, "Yeah, except I don't use YouTube for that anymore. " And I was like, "Huh? " — They're like, "Yeah, I use Tik Tok. The videos are like faster. " Oh, that's weird to my brain, a person who doesn't use Tik Tok. But yeah, I don't know. — The children are actually wrong this time. — This was not a — I know. I just mean like the Seymour Skinner quote. — Yeah. — No, it's the children who are wrong. — Yeah. Yeah. This person was similar age to me. But um I also understand what you're saying. Yeah. I don't know. Both of them are, I think, inherently evil. Um, — you have to pick one, though. Which one's ickier? — I think it really comes down to how much it could. You said toos. If it's just toos, — yeah, — then I kind of want to say user base. — They had it coming. — What? Oh my god. just because lying to consumers is like a yikes and it would be I think much harder to hide from employees. — Okay. — But if it's if there's like a popup when you load Instagram that's like — we're stealing everything. The camera is always on. Please wank then I mean what you do is your own if you decide to keep using it — or it belongs to Mark. — Yeah. — Either way either way. that point I would be more upset about the employees cuz I feel like the employees are more trapped in that scenario and then we come back to the cyclical argument of Instagram creators and blah blah blah blah blah. Um but yeah I think I don't know this might be a terrible argument but I think where I'm going to land on how much of a disclosure there is and the more of the disclosure the more I um it's not that I'm more okay with it the more I become less okay with the employee side if that makes sense. Mhm. — Uh let's talk about — because sorry at a core of the argument if you tell that to a bunch of employees there's going to be a ton of people that cannot leave because their life situation won't allow them to. And if you tell that to users people could just decide in the moment to uninstall Instagram. — So then we both agree that employees is ickier — because they're stuck. — I think so — in the relationship. — I think so. Unless you're not disclosing it to consumers because then that's such a huge consumer rights violation that like that the employees rights come second. — Amazon employees are token maxing due to I'm actually so excited for this topic — due to pressure to use AI tools. And this is good news because it's just really, really funny. On May 12th, the Financial Times reported that Amazon employees are using an internal AI tool to automate non-essential tasks. That's important, non-essential tasks, just to show their managers that they are using AI more frequently. This practice is being called token maxing, which I think is going to take me a while to be able to say with a straight face. This pressure stems from Amazon setting a target this year, requiring more than 80% of developers to use AI tools each week, plus internal leaderboards that track each employees AI token consumption. employees told the Financial Times that there is quote so much pressure to use these tools and that tracking usage creates perverse incentives, which is one of Luke's favorite pet peeves. Amazon said that the stats would not factor into performance reviews, but several employees said that they believed that managers were checking anyway. Amazon has since limited teamwide visibility of usage stats, so only an employee and their manager can see them and is reportedly discouraging managers from using token consumption as a performance metric at all. — Fake news. — Token maxing has also surfaced at Meta and Microsoft, where Meta's internal AI leaderboard reportedly only lasted days after going public. Nvidia CEO Jensen Wong said he would be quote deeply alarmed if a $500,000 a year engineer wasn't consuming at least a quarter million in tokens annually. Meaning that the entire ecosystem seems to be incentivized for consumption and for it to continue climbing even if a lot of that token consumption turns out to be
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performative. — No way, — dude. This is a whole new layer to the financial circle jerk that is going on around AI infrastructure building out and AI company valuations. If they're all — What if we record the circle jerk for training? If they're all just using their own AI tokens and using as many of them as they possibly can to juice their token consumption to juice the revenues that create the valuations to holy freaking crap what is going on from a dev friend in Silicon Valley is that not only are people unnecessarily using it just to make sure that their numbers stay high, some of them are set building their own tools that will just automat atically use it in order to just sit there and like token virus basically to just consume tokens without them even interacting with anything in order to try to juice their numbers. So, so they have built bots that just use AI time, which if you think about the impact of this stuff is like tons of water, tons of energy, tons of various forms of pollution, massive amounts of expense so that they don't lose their jobs, which is just at a certain level. Dan, — lose him — It's just it's so it's part of me wants to laugh that we've gone from mouse jigglers to auto AI token scripts that just burn your tokens so that you can look good. This arms race of like are these people doing their jobs is getting crazier. — Luke. Oh man, — Luke, there are days when I think everyone, you know, struggles to like go into work. I have my days like that. — Yeah, sure. — Today is a day that I am extremely happy and proud to work at Lionus Media Group Incorporated where this does not exist — for now. — No, — next week. No, no token leader board. — Next week we're — next week. Next week for sure. — Uh yeah, crazy. I just thought it was really funny that guy telling me the story about building a little tool that just consumes tokens. — Yeah, I mean it makes sense. no valuable output — because like if all you're being tracked on is like how much you're using AI because I don't like what is it that they don't have ways of putting together meaningful like quarterly goals and performance metrics? It's just we're back to we're back to lines of code. Luke, — this is Oh, uh, the lines of code argument has come up a lot in AI land because, uh, AI enjoyers, some AI enjoyers, a subset of AI enjoyers will brag about like, oh yeah, well, my agents output 37,000 lines of code today. What are you doing, small boy? Look at me. And it's like, ah, yeah. Is it 37 lines of good code, bro? I don't know. Maybe. Probably not. Wow. Um, — fun world. Very fun world. — Uh, Rene Ren Reneel says in float plane chat, "It'd be like tracking truckers performance by gas consumed. " It's like, yeah, like kind of it could be a proxy for like them doing stuff, but it also like definitely couldn't for the ones that just lead foot it or literally just dump gas out onto the gravel in the parking lot because they know that they're going to get a good performance review for doing so. Like that's the perverse incentive. — Put a brick on the pedal and leave it in neutral overnight. — Yeah. Just — send it. Yeah. — Send it nowhere. — Yeah. like it's just obviously bad. Uh oh man. Yeah. And then like you know the arms race is just going to continue. So now managers are going to start getting reports like there I'm sure there's going to be some way that they can ask the whatever system they have what this user has been using it for and then they're going to find that it's a bunch of junk data. So then the other side is gonna — build more sophisticated — context aware waste tools where you are informing the waste tool of what various tasks you have going on at the time and then it will just research and generate garbage output based on those things — and then it will and then the arms race will get to the point where the tools
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actually do productive work. — Maybe — just kidding. — Yeah, just kidding. It's uh it's — they'll be so good at hiding the fact that they're not doing anything useful that they will start to do something useful. — Sounds like uh it sounds like a lot of corporate life. — great short story like — Yeah. — Um yeah, it's uh it's wild, man. — But hey, here's something cool. Uh on May 4th, Boise State announced that a team led by electrical engineering professor Chris Campbell and Pearl Hill Technology CEO Bameadel Omatoa has built a portable device that detects forever chemicals or PAS in water samples in real time out in the field. The device called the environmental optically gated transistor uses specialized transistors paired with machine learning to detect PAS down to one part per trillion, the threshold set by current EPA regulations. Current EPA proof PAS tests cost about $300 per sample, take weeks, and require lab only equipment like liquid chromatography paired with mass spectrometry. The new device aims to do the same job on site in real time and at competitive prices. If scaled, PAS or perr and poly floroal substances are a group of over a thousand chemicals found in drinking water, food, cookware, and clothing. The most toxic ones are linked to multiple cancers, infertility, developmental delays in infants, and compromised immune systems. The breakthrough started as an accident in Campbell's lab. Undergraduate researchers leaning over microscopes noticed that their breath was causing weird variations in transistor results, which turned out to be the transistors reacting to different chemicals in the air. In methanol tests, the team has hit accuracy rates between 86. 7 and 97% depending on the PAS molecule. The next step is reaching those numbers in real water samples which have other contaminants that can complicate detection. Our discussion question is, do you think a higher awareness of PAS will lead to stronger regulation around it? I'm going to go ahead and say no because awareness of tooth decay has not led to good decisions around fluoride, for instance. But hey, uh maybe we'll figure it out. Yeah, I was watching a video a while ago somebody testing water um around where like hikers would go versus — areas that they didn't. They found like massive increases in PAS content um because like a lot of hiking gear is just covered in it. Um, oh, Ren at Rink Zate says, "I thought this whole time was PFAS, maybe. " — Yeah, whatever. — It's one of those things I've only ever seen written, so — there's so much stuff like, yeah, — I read predominantly as my source of media ingestion. So, sorry. — I've heard it called PAS before. I don't know what's correct. I know uh in Linux I know it's like the because file system whatever so it's um like fs tab. I like calling it fstab. — Nice. — It just sounds cooler. — Oh, apparently Derek from Veritasium says it the way that I say it. So either I've heard it called PAS before. — Either we're both wrong or uh we're both right. — Yeah, everyone else. — Let's go. — I mean you call it GIF. Yeah, which is correct. The creator says it's GIF, therefore it's GIF. I mean, it's that simple. — If I create something — Mhm. — that's like four A's. — Mhm. — And then I say it's pronounced potato. — Yeah, — that's fine. — That's how it works. — I like that. — I mean, it's one of those things. It's like um — it's like uh like name names are like that. like someone someone's name will be like uh this is a story my mom used to tell all the time because uh she overheard a conversation where this lady with the last name s c r e m i n uh insisted that her name was or — s c r e m i n yeah uh insisted that her name was pronounced um screman and like rules of English it could just as easily be screaming but she was like really mad that someone pronounced ounced it screaming and my mom just thought it was funny like that screaming family, those screaming kids, you know. Anyway, uh the point is just that if you have a name that has an ambiguous spelling, you decide how it's pronounced and everyone kind of rolls with it. It's true. I mean, look, Ashley, a sle. Are you kidding me? But I have to play along.
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That's Ashley. I LOVE THE framing of I have to play along with arms out wide. I have been assaulted with this information my whole life. — Oh man. Okay. Anyways, let's move on. I mean I battle Battler gun in float plane chat says Lionus got rejected by Ash Lei. No, I was rejected by Ash Lee with an L E Y. Okay, it was a long time ago and I'm totally over it. You can tell. — Oh man. All right. China's new 800 cycle lithium sulfur battery could nearly double drone flight time. On May 12th, a research team at Singua Shenzhen International Graduate School announced a new lithium sulfur battery design that nearly doubles the energy density of current drone batteries. The prototype pouch cell hit an energy density of 549 W hours per kilo compared to the under 300 that today's commercial drone lithium-ion batteries typically deliver. Lithium sulf sulfur batteries have long been viewed as the obvious next generation alternative because sulfur is cheap, abundant, and theoretically stores way more energy than lithium ion. The catch has always been that the chemistry is hard to stabilize during repeated charging. The new design dropped the battery's internal resistance by 75% compared to conventional lithium sulfur designs. And in lab tests, it ran stably for 800 charge discharge cycles while still retaining nearly 82% of its original capacity. And our discussion question here is every few months we get a battery breakthrough that never escapes the lab. What are the odds that this is the real deal? — I'm going to tell a story and then say something and flip chat beam me to it, but I had the thought before I read it. Um, one is I remember CES a very long time ago. I saw a booth that was talking about battery technology and they told me all their claims and I told them, "Wow, if you guys do this and bring it to market, you'll all be billionaires. " And they looked a little bit uncomfortable with that because I'm pretty sure they knew it was never coming to market, — right? — And it never came I don't remember the name of it or anything, but like I was following it for like a few years afterwards and it kind of just peted off in the — carbon nano tubes. — Yeah. Um, and then the other one is, and Flipline got to this before I did, but again, I thought of it independently. I don't see the message anymore. Uh, but war do be great for innovation — and drones do be crazy right now. Um, so maybe there's a little bit more potential expectation that there might be some form of battery technology improvement. I'm not surprised at all that they mentioned drones in the text because it is probably very pointedly related at that. Um I mean it's never a guarantee but um billions and billions of dollars and national defense being at stake does tend to incentivize certain developments. governments around the world have been paying a lot of attention to the like just incredible things Ukraine has been doing with drones and are kind of starting to wake up that might, you know, all those random people on battlefield strapping C4 to drones and then flying them into tanks and stuff might have made sense in the real world too. Um, yeah. Yeah. — Interesting. He does know. I'm not going to press the button. — And you know what I know is it's time for Dan to uh feed us some comms. — Sure. — It's after dark, baby. Hit me, Daniel Besser. — Okay. All right. What do we got? Hi, LDL. My parents are getting remarried soon, and I'm going to be the officient to each other or to Teddy here. Uh, any advice on giving a speech that is genuine and heartfelt without being cliche or sending a weird message? — Um, man, what would I do? So, genuine and heartfelt without being cliche. So, — what is the context? — Talk about the people. I think that's the best way to avoid cliches is make it specific to the actual people and how you think that they are a great fit for each other. I think that would be my best advice for writing like a wedding speech of any sort. — Hey, you looked like you were gonna say something. I thought — I was I was gonna basically say that I think it's almost hard to be cliche at a wedding. — Really? I think people am I Let me look up.
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— Yeah. I don't know. I think weddings are cliche. — Interesting. So, you would actually even say it's okay to just play it safe. Say the bride has never looked better. The groom is so lucky. You know, just the, you know, — I think all of that's probably fine. — Yeah. Just stick with the — I don't think anybody's going to be bothered by that. — Stick with the basics. — It wraps around. I also think talking about the people like everything that you said is great. — Yeah. I think that's good advice too though because trying to be too creative can hit real hard, but it can also miss super bad. — Yeah. So, if you're not sure, just fall back on the like these things are obviously good and it's fine. — Shaf 2K says just go Corinthians. Can't miss. Quote Ezekiel 23:20. Okay, I got to know what Ezekiel 23:20 is. This is according to Curious Bread. Uh Ezekiel 23:20 is one of the most infamously graphic and shocking verses in the Bible. It uses explicit metaphorical language to describe the spiritual unfaithfulness and idolatry of Israel and Judah, comparing their alliances with pagan nations to illicit sexual lust. With there she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys, and whose emission was like that of horses. Why did you have that at the ready for a parents wedding? Let's move on. Hey LLD, just bought my first pool for the upcoming summer. Lus, as a pool owner, any maintenance tips for a newbie? — Yeah, don't get a pool. Sorry, too late. — Same here. I would also say the same thing. Also, thank you for the EV chargers. BCIT will put them to good use as training aids. — Um, yeah. So, any maintenance tips for a newbie? Um, oh gosh. sell it. — Yeah. Um I mean you um uh I — do not let the chemicals go out of spec or you're going to spend a lot more money and time getting them reinspected. — That's good. That's good stuff. And when you change the temperature, that totally changes the chemicals, even though you didn't change anything other than the temperature. Watch out for that one. — No glass near the pool. — Yeah. Uh oh. Um before you get a pool, make sure that you have anyone to share it with you because it costs exactly the same if nobody swims in it as it does if everybody swims in it. Good chat. — Good chat. Thoughts on the specs of the Steam Machine? — Oh man. I mean, I feel like I've talked about it a fair bit in the LT videos that we did on it, but I guess we're getting pretty close to potential delivery of this thing, so it's kind of on everyone's mind again. I um man, it all depends on price. If it comes in at a really reasonable price, which is feeling more and more unlikely the longer we get the further we get into this RAM apocalypse, then I think that the spec is a really fine target that um that Valve went for. But if it's really expensive, then that's going to be a really tough pill to swallow because there are benefits of the Steam Machine like being able to wake with CC, having the integration with the dongle for the Steam controller, the super quiet, compact form factor. These are all really good things, but you know, it's always hard for me to recommend something that isn't a great value. And so, I'm just I'm going to have to compare it to a DIY machine no matter what happens. Uh there was an article on Vice that I didn't fully read. — Um — solid. — I just kind of saw the headline, but yeah, I really don't know. But — yeah, — I hope not. — There was like this thing. So I saw this new update to the source code suggested machine frame will exceed €1,000 in price. — Uh that could be anything though. It really could be anything. — That just looks like placeholder values. It could be. — I doubt it. — I think that's too high. Yeah, I don't think so. — Hopefully not. — Yeah, I doubt it. We are a mixed Mac and Windows business environment. Will switching our users to Mac improve our company's overall security posture? — I think switching everyone one way, one way or the other would hold on. possibly
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be better because you'd have fewer um surfaces but possibly be worse because if anything does go wrong it hits everybody there. That's my uneducated take. — So in chat that sounds like a nightmare. Yeah, we do that. — Yeah, — we also have Linux machines. — Yeah. — Yeah, we do. It's bad. We're a shockingly small organization for like — the complicated nature of everything that we do. — Yeah. We have like everything from like enterprise equipment in the cloud to enterprise equipment on prem to — extremely not enterprise. — Yeah. All of it. — Yep. — With weird rules. This is a desktop workstation. Uh but I have it under a server rule banner, — right? so that it doesn't update and I get to choose and there's like every single little tiny computer that we have around. Uh — yeah different a small part of Dan's soul goes into a horcrux every time the W show crashes. So he's really like tries to stay on top of that. — Yeah. So are we pretty sure it was envank? Has it been causing problems now? No. There was the one stream that we did where you're like, "Oh, I went back to Envank and that one had a couple problems. " — Oh. — Are we on CPU encoding right now? — No, we were for two shows and then I fixed the problem. — Oh, and Envank, we're on Envank right now — and have been for the last couple weeks. — What did you do? Did you swap the GPU or something? — No, I just rolled back the drivers until they're like a year out of date. — Wow. — Interesting. — If only we could just airgap this system except that we have to stream from it. No. — Well, we could use Wi-Fi. — Oh, wait. But that that's not air gapping. — Is a gap. — He's trying to Yeah, he's trying to — just baiting you. — He's — mostly Luke. Luke has a real problem. — Masterful job. — I was going to say he was — It's kind of a bit of both. Yeah. — Truly a master baiter. — If you record him, you can use that information to train. — Well, I mean, the camera's running all the time. Uh, hey LLD Lionist, you mentioned after announcing Smash Champs, you will never do another large scale like that. With your stance on e-waste, would you uh make a company like free it to keep e-waste out? — Oh man. — Free it. — Like kind of like FreeGeek. I um I think that a potential like future era of the media side of our company could be that we run like a free geek like electronics recycler. I think it would be an incredible mine for content. And I think that if we also like were a retailer and you could like buy systems and stuff, we would never have to search for a reason to uh build a computer again cuz we would just have like customer systems and stuff. We'd never have to search for uh you know a system that needs to be fixed or troubleshot again because there would just always be a constant flow of them. um we wouldn't have to go out looking for cool weird old tech to make videos about because people would just bring it to us. — Um — how much of that actually turns into content though? — It wouldn't really matter because you could if you can build a sustainable functioning business. — I don't know if you can. can either. I kind of either — question that a lot because the space required versus how much you'd make off that is a really bad relationship. — This is true. Um and — there's a reason why I like universally loved FreeGeek. — Well, apparently the reasons it died. I actually had a longer chat with uh Mark from Disappearing Inc. a little while ago and — um you know I'm not going to name any of the names that he named or anything like that but he was very close to Free Geek physically and uh and also in terms of his relationships and um he made it seem like or at least my understanding of it was I'm hedging a lot here because I don't want to get anybody in trouble but basically he made me feel like somehow that FreeGeek could have survived if not for stuff that was preventable and avoidable. — Good. — Yeah. — Okay. Interesting. Good to know. — Uh FreeGeek was like, — "Was that because of like donations and stuff or were they actually making enough from the storefront? " — I don't want to get into the details, but he made it seem like to me that it could have been workable — cuz you ain't getting donations if you do it — if there was enough will. I mean you can set up a separate organization. We could set up a nonprofit. — I just
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— people would uh would like oh donate to it. — I mean it depends. It's um — it would have to have its own separate boundaries which it should if it's operating as a nonprofit. Like I wouldn't be able to like profit from it, right? So and I think you'd have to have like there's a lot of stuff that nonprofits have to do to be compliant. I feel like people would expect you to solely fund the entire thing. — Oh, they'd expect it, but I wouldn't be able to. — And then forever like — for that reason, I feel like it would — fail. — Yeah. I don't know. It's like it's a funny thing. I have sort of like a weird I have like a weird way of contributing back to the community. like Smash Champs is a for-profit business, but it has not made a profit and it might not ever pay back the overall like investment in it. Um, but I certainly am like open to the possibility of it making money. Um, and just to be clear, just so that this is not in conflict with things that I've said internally, Smash Champs is not a cash flow drain anymore. Uh, but that's only because Smash Champs has a really, really nice landlord that doesn't charge it rent. Um, then someday, at the very least, I would like Smash Champs to pay the landlord rent so that there can be some possibility of some kind of repayment of that investment ever. Um, but not not for now. Um, so like I could see something like an LTT free geek being kind of like that where we put in the initial basically go, okay, here's the space. Guess what? Now you have a really nice landlord that doesn't charge you rent, but you're going to have to find a way to make it break even monthtomonth aside from that or something like that. I could see that being a possibility. But if I bought another building, I think my wife would divorce me. Um, we have too much of our total assets in greater Vancouver real estate, which has taken an absolute pummeling in the last couple of years, as you may or may not have noticed. So, that's been cool. Which, to be clear, I have I've been rooting for my entire adult life. I've been like, the crash must come. Um, I just, you know, — it feels a little bit more real over the last few months. — Oh, it's I can tell you — it's fallen. — It's very real. — Yeah. — Like, it's been real for a long time. just like — it's taken a long time for sellers to clue in how real it is — and adjust their expectations for what they — don't think it's necessarily that they are becoming more solvent which is like sad — uh sorry which is more solvent — the sellers I think they're running out of money so — I think they have to move less solvent then — less solvent — they've reached insolveny like they are I don't think we're quite using it right But basically, they're getting desperate. — They're running out of money. Uh there's been the rate at which Canadians have been defaulting and having places get uh foreclosed and whatnot is like massively ramping cuz people have been holding out — trying to sell it at higher values and just people aren't buying. — Oh, hi. Josh says slightly less tactfully, all the boomers are realizing their houses aren't worth what they think they are. Yep. — That's a I would like to say it that way except they were selling at that amount for a really really long time. — It was crazy up here. — Yeah. So like they were right honestly which sucks. — And so there's a lot of like not boomers that bought in at the peak and it and that really sucks for them because they're underwater now at this point. — Yeah. — Um just going to kind of look uh here. I know I talked about this a little while ago, but the number of cord-dered sales in here is freaking crazy. Uh like I don't know, here's like a freaking large scale retail and commercial space for lease. This is a wait court. Oh, no. This is Court Drive. Okay. No, no, no. For sale by court order though in Colona. 3 acres. Uh for sale under court order in Victoria. — What is that? It looks like a — landmark commercial property. — Prison. 115,000 square ft. Look at this thing. — Wow. — For sale. Court order. 122 parking stalls. You want to move to Victoria, boys? — Like on the island? — Yeah. — Yeah, that' be sweet. — Yeah, we're not moving to the island. — Oh. — Uh owner occupier or office investment opportunity? Um yeah, it's going to be a pretty Fairmont Le Chateau 925 acres. Whoa. — Damn. — We could work there. — Yeah, I bet you'd like that. Uh, where is this? — Montabelloo, Quebec. — You want to move to Quebec? — If we You've got the last name for it
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then. Yeah. — Yeah. It would be super annoying because everyone's going to speak to me in French. — Hello, I am Mafrenier. — I don't know how to speak this language. I'm so sorry. And they'll be like, but your last name is French. And I'll be like, I know. — I know. the sweet days. Um, may we all right — we uh sups and um Sparky from the better coover. Stop leaking our tax haven. Thanks. Do you uh do you think Intel will start pushing uh pursuing R& D in Hillsboro with the recent SpaceX visit or will my bros stay sad sans's job? — Um I think Intel's investments into Intel fab business are very much like made right now and wherever they were going to do it is where they're going to do it. Um, however, I I do I do think that that's something that is going to become, as I've said before on the WAN show, I think that Intel's fabrication capabilities are going to become very important geopolitically. Uh, I don't know if y'all have noticed, but uh, Trump and President Xi are having a summit right now. Or is it a state visit? It's some kind of thing that they're doing right now. — And Mr. Zi has made it very clear that um Taiwan will become a flash point between China and the US at some time in the near future, which puts TSMC's situation in a pretty different light compared to even 12 months ago, 18 months ago. And I have said before, I think that things are going to be really important. Oh, apparently he flew back today already. Okay, so it was just over the last couple days. Um that I think Intel's um fab business is going to become very important to Western interests. Say that much. My fiance and I are starting a business together, a cafe downtown. Any suggestions on firsttime co-owned business? We both have complimentary experience but are hesitant on hiring full-time staff. Um, oh, it's tough, man. You need to be aligned on what your goals are. I think 90% of the fights that Ivonne and I have had about LMG and its related companies have been because we were not aligned on what we wanted to put into it and get out of it. So hopefully you guys have done that. And yes, I would be hesitant on hiring full-time staff because um a lot of them work out really great. Some of them like really don't. And sometimes it's, you know, it's always a spectrum, right? Sometimes it's more your fault and sometimes it's more their fault. And um and it can people are the best part and they're the hardest part. um — pre-marriage or common law, you are more stuck with an employee than a partner, — which is crazy, but actually like not well, it depends. I mean, you're somewhere else. In BC, um we have extremely strong uh worker protections, which can be a very good thing and they challenging thing. They can be both of those things. — Keeps me employed. Up next. — No, that's not what keeps you employed, Dan. Um, hi LLD. — You don't have the spine to come after me. — Lawyers are very expensive here. Hi LLDD. I switched to Linux around 6 months ago and have been getting nervous from all the latest vulnerabilities like copy fail, dirty frag, and fragnas. Do you have any security tips for Linux? Don't worry about it too much. Everything is cyclical. Do your updates. Windows has its times when it's in the news for vulnerabilities. So does Apple's software. So does Google software. Don't overthink it. Don't freak out. It's going to be okay. And install a Russian language pack. Any joggers coming out anytime soon? I love the pair I bought a while ago, but was unable to get another pair because of the demand. I don't think there's any on the road map right now. — I thought there were some up right now. Am I crazy? — What are these? Flex pants. Can you — Oh, the flex pants are actually really great. Yeah, pick up some flex pants. These are super nice. — I know. They might not look 100% like it, but they've got the little thing at the bottom with the And I think you could have a good time jogging in these. — Yeah, these are super nice. — Only concern. Sorry, LTD Store.
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— 29 inseam length. — Yeah, — I would also point out LTT store. — They're aware and they're working on it. Okay. Is it working on a 32 — shorter than the regular? — Yep. I know. So, they are meant like you can see that like the style they have. — Okay, that's fair. I hadn't considered that before. — LLD. Why are all the hats so deep? It pushes the tips of my ears down, making me look like Dumbo. Outside of that, I've been loving the many new arrivals recently purchased, especially the new polo shirts. Interesting. We have two sizes. Did you order the big size? Do you maybe not need the big size? Cuz uh like my ears are well clear of the hat by like an entire finger width on both sides. So that's uh our LAN hat. Here's another new one. And we did specifically do two sizes so that we wouldn't have that problem. Um yeah, I'm not sure what to tell you. Maybe we need more sizes. Uh — interesting. — Yeah, — I haven't heard that feedback before. — Like we did have um earlier samples that would hit my ears and we and I'm not the only one we've tried these on. Just to be very clear, it's not like oh it works for Linus, therefore it's good for everybody. Uh if anything, we are to Luke's point about the inseam lengths. Um, there's an upcoming pair of bottoms that specifically will not fit me because they use like a more industry standard inseam length and they're like a um like a straight leg. — Um, they're going to be the super soft pants. — So, matching the super soft hoodie, we have some pants coming that are like a very Gen Z straight leg fit. — I even I have short legs for my height and I have a trouble with our store sometimes. — Yeah. could stick a couple Oreos under the hat and just keep it up off your ear and then if you go get have snacks. — Terrible advice for later. — Is there like sizing information? Probably. Yep. There is sizing information on the hats, the large and the medium. Circumference and hat size. Okay. I was thinking before like I don't think I've ever checked like that height. I'm not a hat guy, but I've never checked that height on a hat and it's never been a problem. It's interesting. Hi, Dan Linus and Luke. I've been debating for a while on buying a PC/ Linux handheld. I'm leaning towards the Steam Deck. Should I continue to hold off in hopes of a Steam Deck 2 or just buy one now? I'm doing that. Steam Deck 2 probably isn't coming for like at least 2 years, 3 years maybe. Um, I'm not expecting anytime soon. I'm holding out because I have a Switch 2 and I'm kind of just deciding I'm not going to flip it. So, I have a Switch 2. So, now you're committed. — Yep. I'm just going to run with that for a while, and then when Steam Deck 2 comes out, I'm getting one. — Hey, DLL. What's the most recent piece of tech in your house that generally annoys you every time you use it, but you haven't replaced it because it still technically works? Oh, man. Uh, might be easier to list the stuff that — my light switches. I actually have the box of Invelli switches in my garage, and I need to just start putting them in every time — you still haven't done that. One of those switches ticks me off. And yeah, I still have those stupid GE Jasco switches. They need to go, but they technically do turn the lights on and off, but like some of them, the little tab to turn them off is like broken off of them. And like I can't add them all to our to the Z-Wave controller because it just gets too overwhelmed and like it's a whole thing. I yuck yikes. Uh oh yeah, someone uh magnetic flux in chat says printer. Yeah, our printer has all kinds of problems and I I'm going to make a video about it, but I haven't gotten around to replacing it cuz I was like, Ivonne, can it wait until I make a video? Elijah needs a printer, too. So, we're going to go printer shopping for a video. So, it's been like months now. — That's funny. — And last, didn't answer. — Uh, I don't know. I don't have a lot of like I have no home automation. — Mhm. I think it could just be anything. And it didn't necessarily say like how much tech do I have in my house? I have my computer phone battery. You complained about your phone battery today, but it technically still works. — And anything else like that? — TV's totally fine. — Yeah, now it is. — Don't Yeah, it got broke a while ago. — I don't think that was a problem with it, though. — No, it really wasn't. — Um, computer's fine. I think I find yeah my my mic interface and I don't think it's an actual problem with the thing. I just haven't bothered to go through the work of like fixing why it
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sounds like crap — because I open the menu and I just go ah and then I want to put it away cuz I don't know what any of the things do. Oh man, I have a It's not even the devices's problem. As far as my understanding goes, they're good. Uh but I have a what is it? Roadcaster Duo. Uh my Go XLR gave up the Ghost. Um it finally just stopped. Uh so I was like, "Okay, I got to get something else. " Um went for a Roadcaster Duo. It's nice to use. Interface and everything's really good. It looks really nice. Cool. It doesn't do the cool thing that go XLR did when it would boot up, which is genuinely a loss. That sucks. I really wish it — did all the RGB like LEDs and everything. — Yeah. And having the faders just go like it was cool. Um, so it doesn't do any of that, which is sad. Uh, but it also just sounds worse, which I'm fairly certain — is a settings thing because I did dial in the Go XLR. Um, but — Go XLR made it easy to dial in. I find the Roadcaster does not feel as easy to dial in and it is probably a like user problem, but the user experience on the Go XLR felt easier. — It guided you through it. — Yeah. And you know what? Maybe I skipped a menu or something. I don't remember. I don't feel like I did. Um why didn't you just get another XLR? Uh they're like kind of dead. There's some community project that's kind of keeping them alive and stuff, but I didn't want to reinvest into a what is effectively end of life product that I can't get support for or any of that kind of stuff. So, — all right, hit me, Mr. Dan. — Last one I got for you tonight. — Oh, hey LDL. What's been the biggest year-over-year leap in consumer tech since 2020 outside of AI? Also, iMac G3 colored translucent screwdrivers when — I think the Prismagic colorways are doing pretty well. So, we might do more colors, but no guarantees, no timeline on that right now. — Most things I can think of relate to AI in some way. I was going to say like um you know DLSS style things. — Oh, yeah. DLSS is — relates to AI though. — Yes. — Um — I've got a couple if you want to think about it. I didn't I I see it is in full plane chat, but I thought of batteries. Batteries have improved a fair amount. Um but maybe go for it because those were the only two that first jumped in my head. — A couple big ones for me, tandem OLEDs. Like the first time I saw the iPad Pro with that tandem OLED display, it just flipping blew my mind. — Even just displays in general. displays have been moving really fast in ways that um maybe we're not good appreciating as much right now because they had already had like a big burst of improvement — and then there was like a short lull where they were like these are like all good enough now and not moving that fast and then they've been like taking off again but maybe we're not appreciating this development cycle as much because you know the ones from last time are like still pretty darn good. Like it's not like when we went from TN being the norm to like IPS being the norm. Now we're going from IPS, which is like good enough, to like OLED to like tandem OLED and quantum doled, like all these these great incredible technologies. Um, and then my other big one is noise cancellation. Active noise cancellation is like worlds better today in consumer tech products than it was 5 years ago. Like decades better if we compare it to all the advancements before. Actually I um I want to see how good it is in commercial products. Um one of the things that the TechJet uh gives me an excuse to benchmark is aviation headsets. So, I actually asked one of our pilots. I was like, "Hey, can you give me a list of every like good aviation headset brand and then whichever one we'll test them because uh we have a we have a guy who we know who I think would be pretty good at testing something like that. " Um, and answer a question once and for all for the dozens of people who care. — Who makes the best headset? Cuz wouldn't you care more for like a Cessna style thing? — Oh, for both. — That's way louder. — Oh, they're all super important cuz the um like the it's the long exposure that can be uh that can be damaging to your hearing. And uh no matter — loud in the jet, — it's pretty loud, but yes, you're right. Like a prop plane would also be really loud. But maybe we could collab with the airport and be like, "Hey, are
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there any pilots that would want to like — try some of these or would they take a microphone up with them so that we could get some test audio? " — I'd be really interested too like uh you know DMS's testing versus the anecdotal opinions of the pilots. Um, Ryzen 97969X says the aviation standard is Bose, which I know, but what I want to know is, okay, but what about these upstart companies? — Yeah. — Are they quietly, pun intended, better, and everyone just buys Bose because Bose has always been the best? Or is Bose still leading the pack? I don't know. And it's been something that I've been curious about ever since I learned that Bose's like pedigree was aviation headsets and that technology is what made its way down into consumer products. Like I don't know if you remember this, but we actually did a video um where we rented a plane so that we could um so that we could do an intro for like a noise cancelling headset. — No, I don't think I know this. here. Let me see if I can find this. Uh, man, if somebody knows, by all means, uh, let me know because, uh, I don't actually remember. — While you look, — what an intro. Look at this. I'm in a turtle outfit. — While you look, another one that I think would be like — Yeah, we rented a plane so that we could — Wow, cool plane. You ride on top of the plane. This is actually kind of a cool ad. It's uh it's like it's a show except it's like just travel to Montreal. — Montreal. Sick. — Yeah. — Wow. — Yeah. So, it was Yeah. It was just so that we could do the intro and then we just stood on the tarmac and uh and did the A-roll. — Neat, — right? I don't know. I think it's kind of cool. I think another thing that's advanced really nicely since 2020 has been like the ability to build things at home with not a tremendous amount of skill and relatively cheaply. — So like 3D printing and the derivatives of it um at home level tools have been dropping in price and dropping in barrier of entry in general. — Just everything — slicing software has gotten a lot easier to use. Oh, that's a topic that we didn't touch this week. — The whole bamboo. — Don't know a ton about it. — Bamboo versus the world situation. Basically, the summary version, Sparks Notes, is bamboo bad. — Well, no, I already knew that. — Yeah. — Known that for a while. — Okay. — Yeah. — Well, basically that — I don't know fully. — Bamboo more bad or Prussa mad? — Yeah. — Prussa justified mad. See, but I thought all of that was already known. — Yeah, but — so the thing that I don't know now is what happened to change. — Um, Bamboo was going after someone who was doing something with — Did they sue someone? — I don't think they sued them. No. — Okay. — Um, but basically Bamboo not being a good citizen. — Okay. — open source citizen. — I haven't looked enough into it, but I know like I think it was like — and being kind of a bully. Rossman got his hands on some code or something and like — Yeah, it wasn't hard to get his hands on. It was like there. — I don't know anything about it. — Yeah. — Um — but yeah, I don't know. I was already kind of in the bamboo bad camp, so it didn't really change anything for me, so I didn't pay much attention to it. — Yep. I'm not going to throw away my bamboo printers I already have. — Um but I don't see myself buying another one. — Yeah. — So that's where I'm at. — Yeah. Um, I was going to say something. Shoot. I think I lost it. Bummer. It was interesting. — It was a cease and assist of the repo owner of Orca Slicer. Um, and I thought I read somewhere that it was a fork of Orca Slicer that received this ease and assist, but I am not read up on this. So, like I don't know. It was a fork. Yeah, it was a fork, not Orca Slicer. Yeah. So, that that's part of the problem is like I haven't dove enough into this to get like the actual for sure things. And I know that there is some that's not 100% correct like statements like that. Um, it's all a fork. That's the point. I don't know. Whatever. — Basically, — I don't know what's going on. — Bamboo being a bad boy. — Yeah. is the bottom line. — Pruce has got some really cool stuff. — They sure do. — Yeah, — it's not cheap. — Nope. — But, uh, they actually have some really cool stuff that I'm looking forward to checking out very soon.
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— Nice. — Yeah, we're like uh we have someone on the writing team who's like very 3D printing now. — Um, so we've got some pretty cool 3D printed stuff in the hopper right now, and I'm pretty excited about it. Um, yeah, he appeared in the video about um — Oh, that's crazy. Apparently own software is a fork of Profuses. Yeah. — That would be why Pruce is mad. — Oh, yeah. Pruce a big mad. — Wow. — Um, crazy. — Yeah. So, Sean worked for all 3DP back in the day. So, he's like hardcore 3D printing. — Yeah, I know. He's been in a couple videos talking about it. It's cool. — Yeah, looking forward to it. All right. And I'm also looking forward to I guess that's the end of the show. Well, hey, thank you guys so much for tuning in. We'll see you again. Uh, we hear you on the whole the Wan Show channel um not being a good place for the live show and the clips. Um, it's been a very messy transition. — Yeah, — there's precedent for people doing it the everything goes on one channel way. There's also a lot of precedent for people doing it the other way. Um Luke and I have to schedule a meeting basically to kind of go okay do we do yet another channel and then like what do we move all the clips over I don't actually know the right answer right now but we're going to figure it out and we do hear you guys that you don't want to subscribe to that channel as long as there's clips if all you're really interested in is the live show. So — yeah, — good to know. Kind of tough. — See you next week. Well, I don't know. It might be a different time. Okay. Same bad time. — Bye.
