Theo Von told Rogan his goal is to get off antidepressants completely after taking SSRIs for nearly 20 years since a bad relationship in school, saying the medication makes him feel dead and disconnected from the world. Rogan then described past episodes including a shelved Netflix taping where Theo told the crowd he was “just trying not to take my own life,” which led Joe to look for doctors who specialize in safely tapering people off long term antidepressant use.
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Segment 1 (00:00 - 05:00)
So, let me get into the Rogan Theo. So, Theo Von is on uh Rogan's podcast and he talks about the SS uh um uh the — SSRI — SSR I think this is it where he's talking about he's been on them for almost 20 years. Rob, if you want to play this clip, go for it. — It's all just a cat and mouse game. People are like, "We'll elect the Democrats next time. " It's like, but it's all the same [ __ ] has been happening forever. They haven't been helping anybody forever. They're letting [ __ ] politicians slurp on kids. All of our [ __ ] money goes to Israel and they're using it to [ __ ] genocide. — This is not it. This is when he says he's been taking medication since the breakup. Rob, this clip has nothing to do with uh the Did you find that one or No, — I couldn't. That's the clip that it kept uh showing me as to what started the conversation about his mental health. — But does he say there about him being on medication for — No. Joe just says something like, "Hey, man. " Like he makes a comment on like how he — No, that's not the clip. To me, this is it. Go ahead. — Is to get off of anti-depressants completely, man. I want to feel how I'm supposed to feel so I can have thoughts and actions that uh that like make me feel connected to the world. That [ __ ] makes you feel dead, man. — So, why did you take them in the first place? — Cuz I was in a bad relationship 20 years ago and I was having a tough day at school and they [ __ ] put they gave them to me and then I never got off. — Really? Because when you get off it's that I think we talked about this once. It's hard. — Yeah. It makes you more depressed and more [ __ ] up and you're all imbalanced and you know probably you're addicted to them. — Yeah. Like um one of my — This is it. So this and by the way, this is a lot of people that are on this then Joe talks about it on one of the clips. That clip right there. If you can go to it. Uh yeah, I think this is the one. Go for it. — Von's going through the exact same thing. And last time he was on the podcast, he was explaining it to me. It freaks me out because I know Theo has had conversations before like even publicly. He had a Netflix taping and it didn't go well. Like they actually never they shelved it. They never used it and you know there was all these stories from people that were there saying he bombed. I think he just had kind of a breakdown and then he was talking to the crowd and there's a video of it. He said you know the people were shaking. Hey, we still love you. He goes, "Thank you. Look, I'm just I'm trying not to take my own life. That's what I'm trying to do right now. — Yeah. — And like you hear stuff like that and you just go like, "Oh, Jesus Christ. " I've known too many people that I didn't think were going to kill themselves and then did — and then he goes down these spirals where he starts talking about world events and freaking out. I'm like, "Oh, Jesus Christ. " Like, I got to help this dude. And so I send him things about people getting off of them and apparently there's some doctors that specialize in getting people off of them. Joe is, you can pause it right there. Joe is talking about what Theo is going through. Then Theo responds back to this and here's what Theo has to say. You just had it a minute ago, Rob, that you had it up. Yeah. On the one with Theo reacting and he says, "This is mostly cap. Sad to see this kind of stuff. I'm doing great. I'm a human being, which is rocky, right, but I'm doing fine, thanks. " Vinnie, how do you this story went viral and you know we were kind of debating whether to cover it or not but if it wouldn't get these kind of eyeballs we wouldn't have talked about it. Why do you think the story did this well and what's your perspective on what Theo is saying to Joe's feedback? — Well because well first and foremost they're actually friends. They're not just uh podcasters that just go on a podcast and then they're done. Joe actually cares about Theo and his well uh his well-being. And I know Joe knows people in Los Angeles that have had committed suicide. Brody Stevens, a hilarious, quirky comedian that we all knew committed suicide. Nobody even really knew. That's him right there. Pat, how crazy is it? He was in um Hangover 2. Remember he's standing on top of the he was doing security on the That's Brody, God rest his soul. And I think Joe genuinely Pat — the highrise on top of the helicopter shows up towards the end of the movie. You're like that's Brody. That's Brody. And um and this is Joe sees the signs and I'm and I get bro and I get Theo's point and he's like, "Hey, listen. I'm okay. I'm fine. " That's what sometimes people say, Pat, that are going through it. You know what I mean? That are dealing with it. And I mean, if you've been on it since you were 20 years, Pat, because of one breakup and doctors gave it to you and prescribed you've been stuck on it and now you're just trying to wean off of it. I don't think it's going to be good. I mean public I mean Joe Joe's on a podcast and he's talking about his friend. I think people you know blew it up a lot more than what it is. But Joe Pat, you know Joe, we don't he gives a damn about Theo. And by the way, that quick rant that we saw, I don't think that's necessarily him going on the rant and just see because once you see things, Matt, there's no unseeing. And if he feels like that about the government and he sees something about Gaza, that's him. I don't think it has a direct correlation. But the standup one was right. he did
Segment 2 (05:00 - 10:00)
allegedly not do well on his standup uh for his taping, which Pat, you know, that's a huge deal. They're spending all this money. That's your you have one or two uh takes like either like an early two shows that day or one show that day and the next I'm pretty sure was is it was two in one day. And when you say something like, "Yeah, I'm just trying not to kill myself. " You have to take it serious from someone that is on the SSRI. So that's my assessment. — Adam, — uh I'm rooting for you, Theo Von. Uh, I've seen slowly but surely sort of the disintegration of your comedy career. I think we could all admit one of the funniest, most talented guys that we've seen. Um, but I'm actually with Rogan on this and I'll tell you why. — Uh, do you think Rogan is doing this because he wants to have beef with Theo? Do you think he's doing this because he wants to — do something for clicks? or is he doing this because he's genuinely concerned about — he genuinely gives a damn. — And I'll give you an example of where this might hit home. About a week ago, I told you a story about a friend of mine — that was having trouble. And I told you that um he also lost his brother. And right after the podcast, and if you see this, hi guys. Uh his father watches the show. His father who lost his son and now is concerned about his other son watches the show. I didn't know he watches the show and ends up my friend ends up sending me the clip that the father sent him yada yada why I brought it up because I'm concerned about my friend and I've tried every way through Sunday to get this through your head. And just like Theo Von who said, "I'm fine, man. I'm good. I'm just going through it. Don't tell me what to do, bro. I'm good. Life's tough. I'm okay. " That's what my friend always does. Hey, man. I'm good, bro. Today's a new day. Yeah, but it's like yesterday you said the same thing. You did it. I think Rogan loves his friend so much that he's probably tried to help him off camera so much that it's not working that he says, "I'm sorry, bro. I got to put this on camera because I'm concerned about you. " That's my opinion because I don't think Rogan would do this intentionally to try to harm his friend. I think he wants to help his friend. Last point, I've been to a Theo show recently. In the same month, I went to two comedy specials. I went to Marcelos's, which is Marcelo Hernandez, biggest star in SNL right now. Number one on Netflix. It was incredible. I went to actually two of his seven shows. He did it and did it and did it. And the last show they used for Netflix and I went to Theo Vaughn. To say that I was unimpressed would be an understatement. And I'm thinking Theo Vaughn, this is going to be great. So, I think at the end of the day, we're rooting for Theo. He's got a he's a lovable guy. I think he should completely stay out of geopolitical political affairs. He has no clue what he's talking about there. And that upsets him. He's probably an empath. He feels these things. I'm rooting for the guy. Hopefully, he gets off drugs. And these SSRI are no joke. — Yeah. So, you know what happens when you lose someone and you knew that the person was dealing with something? You don't tell anybody. — Mhm. the regret you get from losing someone that you knew what they were dealing with and you're privately are like I don't want to expose his private life to the public. I don't want him to do it. — I don't know if in this case it's close to that because it's not like he said it, Joe didn't say it. Theo said it. I've been taking these pills for 20 years since a breakup. Then he said it on a show, I just want to not take my life. — Those two things get people to think. Those are not comments that people make regularly on any given day. But when you do lose somebody and you know, you're by yourself, you're in the car, you're driving back, you get the news, you've already gone to the funeral, you've already done all that stuff, and you're like, "What could I have done? " — That's a weight you don't want to carry. — You just don't want to carry, right? We just had a friend of ours that uh died two weeks ago. One of my guys calls me. This guy was kept saying he's having chest pains, chest pains. He never goes to the doctor, never gets anything checked out. Has a heart attack. He dies. Tom, you know who this guy is. And uh he was actually one of our partners. And I'll tell you about it afterwards. And I talked to the friend, he's in tears, emotional. We're talking on a Sunday. I said, he says, "Pad, we've been telling him, go to the doctor. Go to the doctor. " He didn't go. Right. Okay. Tom, first time he and I got together at 29 years old, 28 years old, Tom's like, "You got to do an executive testing every single every other year. " I said, "At this age? " Yeah, you should go do it every So, I started doing it, — you know, and if you're above 40, you haven't done a CAT scan on your heart, just to kind of see where your arteries are at. And I know Vinnie, you just got yours done. And just to kind of get an idea, you kind of got to go get it done, right? As — scary as it is, you have to do it. — Yeah. Know your plexa score, know your PSA score, — all of that. So, Joe is the leader of the pack for a lot of these comedians. He just is. He's the leader of the pack.
Segment 3 (10:00 - 13:00)
— Yep. — As pack, every once in a while, you have to say certain things that if people don't speak the language of a leader, they're not going to know what he's doing. — He is looking out. And sometimes you will say things in public because in private it's not been working. — So you say it in public to hope do you know you're going to get all the, — you know, the daggers that are going to come for you. — Oh wow. — But that's a risk you're willing to take as a leader because you're the leader of the pack. So to me, I've seen him do this with Brandon Shop. a few of his other friends and every time you're like, "This guy's coming from a place. " I think Joe's a a uh what do you call it? A kingmaker. He's a guy that's built a lot of people's careers. He's set them up a lot. He's given him the platform. — Johnny Carson of our era. Literally, I think he's got the moral authority to give this feedback, but I also understand for Theo to not like it. I think Theo's funny as hell. I've not been to the comedy part. To me, it's different. To me, Marcelo is a stand-up comedian, but it's different for podcast. — I don't know if Marcelo's skill will translate into a podcast. I don't know. — I do know Theo's proven that he's a great podcaster — and he'll sit with anybody and he's able to get the eyeballs uh to help people out. All right, so that's that part. I hope uh he figures it out next Monday. If you guys want to know about the Vault Conference with the new announcement we're making with four speakers, I intentionally chose this four speakers. I want you to text the word vault to 310-341132. 310341132. It'll be our biggest one ever. First time we're going to the West Coast MGM Grand Arena. Rob, watch it. This is a lineup of some of the speakers we've announced over the years. Go ahead, Rob. Heat. Next Monday on the podcast, 25th, we'll be announcing the four speakers, but those who text the word vault to 310341132 will hear about it before anybody else. Um, people are already buying tickets. This weekend was massive with people buying tickets for the Vault Conference. I can't wait to see you guys at this year's Vault Conference. It'll be a special one, one for the history books. If you enjoy this video, you want to watch more videos like this, click here. And if you want to watch the entire podcast, click here.