Ask Your Drone Questions — LIVE Q&A

Heat. — All — right, folks. Welcome, welcome. It is time for another live Q& A. And as always, you can uh put your comments in the comment section. We're going to try to answer all of your drone questions and uh and hopefully be successful. Um, as always, we have quite a few folks I see in the live. I'm going to mute all of that right here and uh go and say hi to a few folks. We got a lot to talk about today. I do want to talk about uh the um the TFRs. the FAA sent uh a message saying that there's going to be a lot of TFRs around for the uh the World Cup and uh so we'll talk a little bit about this but uh let's see who we have in the chat. I see Richard Hooker is here. Uh Chris Hoff, we have Curtis Warren, James Cox, we have Eric Reich Schneider, Drone Eagle, Honkers, uh Joshua Camman, I see Sergio Deagardsa Rush is here, just Johnny, Drone Tycoon, uh drone service provider, Lawrence, our friend Vic, we have an okay Boomer, Scott W4R, we have Cloud Camper, Mark Saxon, uh Paul Gadise, Josh. No, John. Josh. Josh Skipworth. We have uh Vic changed his name as always. Flying Brian. Jim Shusman.

STL Woodworker. Fire Chief Ben 1962. All of these folks are regulars. Flying Brian. Mike Fingerlakes New York. Stinker 337. Just a drone away. Who else? David. And as always, it always does that. I get towards the end and it just skips a whole bunch. David, uh, Shutter Sky Pro, we have Don Mason, Danbull, Outback Boomerangs, cooly drone, uh, Andy Jones, Secret Fader, Topflight Drone. Who else do we have? James, our friend James Bouven is in the chat. Me is in the chat as well. Uh, who else? I think that's it. Travis Lewis Goriardo, Colonel Bob Montgomery is here. Uh, Flying Elvis Filmwork Procosmic Procosmic says god of drone. I don't know. Uh, Bri Bri Frizzley. Uh, Blue Titan. Okay. Danbull. And Rick. Rick is here as well. All right. Lots of folks. Well, um, like I said, before I get to the question, let's talk a little bit about the TFR stuff. I saw a message, I think either message from the FA or it was an article somewhere that they're uh starting to post some of the flight restrictions for the uh, World Cup, which is starting in uh, on the 11th, I think. So, coming right around the corner. The best advice I can give you is if you're going to be anywhere near any of these festivities, don't bring your drone. Don't fly your drone. That's really the bottom line. Um seems like the FA is very serious about taking action against folks that are going to be messing up in those areas. So, um we have uh there's going to be a threemile restriction on game day for those games and it's going to go up to 3,000 ft. Now you're gonna say why 3,000 feet drones can only fly to 400 feet. Because it's not just a drone restriction. So three nautical miles, 3,000 feet tall restriction because u it's also for man aircraft. And so drones are part of that. Just don't fly in that area. But it's not only just a game day. Uh it looks like there's going to be restrictions around hotels for um hotels for the teams, which is kind of a weird one because how do you know which hotel the teams are in? And why would you even want to advertise that, but I guess whatever. Um, and I don't know what that's going to look like. Probably a very localized TFR. They said also there would be restrictions around fan events or fan gatherings. And I think uh that's a th00and foot restriction by one mile if I remember correctly. So yeah, um again just if you're going to be anywhere near the message is clear. do not fly your drone. They will find you and when they find you, they will take your drone away and it's just not going to be a good day. And then we're going to have to talk about you, which is uh I don't want to do that. So, with that out of the way, let's go ahead and talk about the questions. Let me get to them. Um I'm trying to read the first question, but I'm not going to because I don't I can't understand it. So, next, if a sub250 drone 50 g drone is registered on the FA uh drone zone website but recreational flyer, does it need remote ID for every flight or only for flights when your takeoff weight is greater than 250? See, it starts every time I get on camera, I start yawning. Uh, it's not you guys. If you have strobe lights, propeller guards, blah blah, attached to the drone. So, the rule is this. Um, if the drone is registered on the FA website, then it needs to have remote ID. It's really that simple. So, it doesn't matter the weight actually, which is kind of funny thing, right? But if a drone is sub 250, let's say it's always sub 250, and you decide to register it with the FA, even though you don't have to as a recreational pilot, let's say you decide to do it, then because it has a registration, it needs to have remote ID. So, that's kind of the answer to your question here. because you registered it and because you may fly it when it's over 250, then you have to register it. Once it's registered, it's registered unless you dregister in between, which is not recommended. Um, but again, in this case, because it is registered, then you're going to need to um to have remote ID. Fun stuff. Can anyone give uh paid drone lessons with part 107? Yep. Absolutely.

Uh once again from Florida. Uh that's Cloud Camper. I'm wondering what's the best way to sell my beloved Eva 1 and Avat 2? Three batteries each only. Uh no goggles or controller. Um I mean you can try marketplace. You can try um do people still use um Craigslist? I guess Craigslist. We also have if you're and I know you are one of our uh students then you can go in the community we have a sale page if you have a paid course you can actually sell stuff in the community because we have verified you as being a real person. Um so yeah those are three different places I would highly recommend. I was watching a video by Flywith K. Her airplane has a pilot institute sticker on it. Does she work for you or was she a student? She's one of the uh influencers that we sponsor. So she uh yeah, [snorts] she's got our sticker on the side of her aircraft. Have a partnership with a charter boat for canal system fight flights, I'm guessing. Uh passen says sparsely populated is under 20 people in 10 acres. Can you elaborate on this for the curious? I've done my homework. Well, yes. Um, sparsely populated is something that as you're mentioning is not uh something that's defined in the FS in the federal aviation regulation. So it comes down to judgments that have happened uh in cases by the FA and yes I have seen that number of 20 people in 10 acres. Um, so yeah. Why are you interested in sparsely populated though? Because you're going to be operating from a moving vehicle, I'm guessing. Um, 10 acres is a large I'm sorry, I'm just trying to think out loud. 10 acres is a large area. if you apply the definition and you're going to have to find out if you know there are 10 people in that area. As always, it comes down to how can you defend your action when if something happens and you get taken to court and you have to explain your reasoning about how you did it. You do diligence basically. So yeah, I don't know what it looks like where you are in the Fingerlakes in New York. I'm just trying to think of like the canals that we had in Florida where there were more gators than there were people around. U in which case I think sparsely populated would 100% apply. Um yeah, tough one. That's a tough one. Did you see the UAS pilots who was arrested in Riverside, California for flying near the Banefire on May 23rd? I have not seen that one. Um, but yeah, sounds like a don't be that guy segment. Unfortunately, we just cannot repeat it enough, you know, and this the season is coming. Obviously, the summer is coming. It's been pretty dry out west in general. So, it's going to be uh more risk for fires, meaning more aircraft that are going to be flying around to stop those fires. So, please, please don't fly nearby. I know you might be curious about what's going on over there, but just don't fly the drone. If it grounds an aircraft, it means that they can't stop the fire to go and destroy someone's house or kill someone or whatever it is. So, yeah, don't do that. So, you offer in-person training session mapping, lidar, 3D modeling that is coming very soon. Uh we will have more information on that in the next month or so. Uh but yes, it is coming. We will have in-person training coming out. Um, our team is working on all the marketing stuff and uh, yeah, it's uh, it's right around the corner. Fun stuff. Remote ID question. Okay. Do you need a separate module remote ID module for each drone or can they share? The rule is under part 107. They have to be different for each drone unless you want to dregister and reregister the drone in the module each time. Uh which is not realistic. For recreational purposes, you can add one remote ID module to your listing and then use that for any drone. With that being said, there was proposed regulation in the part 108 notice of proposed rulemaking that came out several months ago. Now I can even remember earlier this year or late last year. Um I lose track of time but there was proposed regulation in that said um

that if it passes then you will be able to use the same module for multiple drones under part 107. So I hope it stays. We commented on that uh to the positive stating that we hope that we uh that it stays in the reg in the final ruling. Uh we'll see. I don't see why they would remove it, but um yeah, it'd be nice. This is one of those little nuggets that I think I' I haven't heard anyone actually talk about this except us. Um but we also did read the thing through and through with Jason multiple times and we just found that nugget and wrote it down in our notes. What would you recommend for obtaining your part 107 for a non-active uh pilot certificate, private part 61 route or PSA testing? It really depends on how long it has been since you have flown and um and what it's going to cost to get back to being current. You have to be current in order to get the part 107 without um without taking the test at PSA. The test is $175. If you assume that you take our course, which is $150 bucks, then you're out, you know, $325. Is it going to cost $325 to get current? Uh, probably not. Um, do you want to get current or are you just doing it for getting the 107, in which case taking the test is probably cheaper. Do you need our course? Probably not. Uh, again, it depends on how long it has been since you've been active. If you can self-study the part 107 regulation, learn a little bit of airspace. It's slightly different for drones uh than it is for man aircraft. Although very similar, but some differences, but yeah, that's kind of the bottom line. So yeah, that's how I would make the decision. Red all entire ondefend. Okay. the uh security assessment for DJI. Would like to see them do one for Skyo and other Americanmade and do a sidebyside. Yeah, I think it's fair. And you know, nothing against Skyo or any other manufacturer for that matter, but it would be nice to have u audits on a regular of every drone that's out there. Uh because and I'll tell you why. Because um because security issues, cyber security issues are not always okay, let's put it this way. There are bugs, right? There are bugs in software and there are u holes in security in software not by design but because they just happen because developers are developers and they make mistakes and they expose you know their software to bad guys that want to get in. And so why not make sure that everything is rock solid for every drone that is flying. Not just DJI, not just Skyo, not just but everyone who's flying out there because these drones are used by um public safety agencies that have data that it would be bad if it was leaked um and things like that. I think for the average user that's using this for recreational flying or for a small commercial user, it doesn't make as much of a difference. Um but for yeah larger other drones that are used in other avenues then yeah absolutely. So if we're putting DJI on the spotlight why not put everybody in the spotlight and making sure that everybody is meeting those requirements and then quite frankly this is something we've been asking for a long time. We need standards for all drones not just DJI we need or no Chinese drones. Um we need standards for everything and everyone and um yeah I think it's reasonable 100%. What is the best website to find TFRs? The only place where you should be looking for TFRs is the FA website, tfr. fa. gov. And uh when you get there, when you get on that website, u right on the top, let me go right now. I just did a video on this for our um our airplane course uh because it has changed a little bit. Once you get on that page, you're going to have to accept. And then on the top left, right underneath the FA logo, there is a open TFR map. And so you should click on that and then you will see the full list of TFRs which uh well there's quite a few actually at the moment which is interesting. Um but I'm not seeing you can select by state also to see them. I see two around Phoenix um area and then one by the border in Ngalas. Uh but yeah, that's answer your question. That's the place. TFR. fa. gov

and then go at it. All right. Where did I do here? Next question. That was a great question, Paul. Requirement for DJI Mavic Air 2 night operation. No operations over people under part 107 during the July 4th. Okay. Uh obviously anti-colision lights, VLOOs, anything else? Pretty sure I know. Want to be sure. Okay, so night operation. No operations over people under part 107. Um yeah, strobe light visible from uh three from um three statute miles. Yeah, that's all I can think of. I think you got it. Registered. Yeah. And then remote ID, of course, because you're flying over 250 grams. Yeah, that's it. I have an Autel drone. Do you have a recommendation for an Android tablet since I can't download on iPad? Unfortunately, [snorts] no. I'm not a Android guy and especially not tablets. I don't know how many models are out there. I'm sure there are a bunch, but maybe look on the Autel website if they have um specs requirement. Quite often they have like required specs and then desired or best specs, you know, for to work with the app. That's what I would say. Yeah, I know Vic um it says on the TFR website is not to be considered a sole source of information to meet all pre-flight action. Um that means that TFRs is only one of the step that you have to go through to get um your data for pre-flight and um yeah I've seen that message as well but um it's designed to assist pilots and air crew for flight planning and familiarization. So yeah, you should always be using other things as well. And it mentions 91103 in here. Um but yeah, it should not be the only source of information to do your pre-flight to meet the requirement of part 91103 which highlights uh all the pre-flight actions are things that you have to do uh including checking for TFRs, but there are other things as well. And so that's what that's basically what they're saying. [sighs and gasps] Uh okay, next question. Where are we at? I have too many tabs. There you go. Can you get an OOP waiver for open air assembly? Um, yeah, it's going to be dependent on the type of drone that you want to fly, but um I would definitely recommend a sub 250 g drone to do that. Um, but yeah. Yeah, it is it it's possible to get a waiver for anything if you can convince the FA. Nephe spokeman recently suggested to use beacons even during the day. I know who that is. He's here sometimes. I haven't seen him in a while in chat, but maybe he's just in the back. Uh to give man aircraft every opportunity to avoid collision with drones. Sounds like good advice. Yes. So, let me give you my my two cents on this. Um I think it's a good idea. It's a great idea to be as visible as possible to man aircraft even during the day and because it doesn't cost anything to have that extra beacon on top. The reality is that um it is difficult to see a drone flashing light even one that's visible from three miles at night. it's very difficult to see it during the day from a decent distance. Um, so yeah, and we've had a discussion with the FA and I think Vic is in here. I've had this discussion with Vic because we on some of the waiverss we're required to have a strobe light that's visible from uh one statute mile I think during the day and even that is nearly impossible because these lights are just not bright enough to do that and there's no light in existence in the market right now that's able to do that. So um but it doesn't mean you should not have a light on top even during the day. It's kind of like, you know, I don't know if it's still a debate, but people saying that you shouldn't have your lights on during the day when you drive. And I disagree with that. I think it's great to have your lights on during the day for additional visibility uh on the road. And so yeah, it's kind of the same thing in this case. You it may not always add anything, but the day that it does, then you'll be glad. I don't think it takes anything away. Let's put it

this way. Okay. Second time running through the course on review. Does prohibited and restricted area always take precedence over the airspace? Is that right? Yes, it does. Yep, it absolutely does. [snorts] Unless anything is noted in there that it doesn't, but I've never seen that before. And there's very few uh prohibited areas. They're usually pretty small, usually around DC. There are more restricted areas all over the country. So, yeah. Is there a way to change the top shelf of a drone into a different color? Maybe a 3D print one. Uh my best advice is to get like a skin for your drone if you want to change the color rather than changing the plastic in itself. Uh they sell they've been selling skins for drones for a very long time since drones became a thing. So, go online, find what is like the decal girl or something that was popular for a long time. I don't know if that's still the case. I think that was the name of it. Um, but yeah, find put a sticker on it. I think it makes a lot more sense than 3D printing a new part. Also keep in mind that opening removing the top shelf of your drone can be a bit more involved than just a bunch of screws because uh there's electronics underneath it and things might be uh glued onto it and then you would probably break the um the warranty if you have one. So I would just recommend putting the skin on top. What regulatory misunderstanding do clients most often have about drone inspections? And how can a small operator use correct part 107 knowledge to build trust and win contracts? I think airspace authorization is the one that we hear the most. Uh people that want to do it the right way will tell the clients, I need to get airspace authorization to fly here. As a matter of fact, um I was just here the the city of Prescuit was here in our building a couple days ago to talk about drone issues and uh this is one of the thing they mentioned that one of their local realtor was calling the airport to get uh approval to fly at the uh some of the houses that are on airport property or close to the airport property basically at the end of the runway and the airport telling them we can't do that. we can't. Well, we're not allowed to give you permission. You have to go through the proper process. So, I think your clients are going to have issues when you say, "Well, I can't fly here. " And they're going to say, "Well, Billy Bob over there, uh, he said it that he would fly tomorrow. " Because, you know, Billy Bob is not following the rule. Uh no offense to Billy Bob if he's in the chat, but uh you're going to find people that are going to be willing to break the regulation to make a couple bucks. And what you need to build that you're talking about building trust and winning the contracts. um you need to mention that um you're fully licensed and insured and that you will not cut corners because if something happens it can come down and bite the client themselves because they are the ones who um are uh causing to operate the drone and so they can be in as much trouble as the pilot and so yeah I would um that's you know if your customer is big enough and they have assets and they have and they understand liability then um well yeah and if they understand liability then they'll do that. No Vic says offense to Billy Bob even if he's in the chat. Well maybe there's another Billy Bob who uh who is his name is Billy Bob but he's doing things by the book. So but yes there's always a Billy Bob around unfortunately that guy. Let's call him that guy because um that guy, that girl, that whoever um I've always said, you know, the um what I'm not going to say, yeah, dumbness knows no limit. No limit with uh gender, religion, political affiliation. They're it's everywhere. So, yeah, Billy Bub or Billy Jean, they're all u out there. All right. Many police agencies in Tennessee are starting drone as first responder programs over the next two months. How are uh other drone users to know one is flying in the area and a direction the drone is flying? Visual line of sight. That's really how you do it. Uh making sure that you um I mean you won't. The bottom line is this. The thing is the airspace is big out there, right? So um that's why you're supposed to do maintain visual line of sight. That's why you're supposed to give way to all

other traffic that's coming in your direction, even if it's a drone. Uh you're try to just maneuver to avoid them. Pay attention, listen, take a look, have a visual observer with you, all of these things. But yeah, you're right. As more and more drones are flying, and by the way, there's no uh hierarchy in the uh priority in the airspace when it comes from drone to drone. We have priority airplane and drones to balloons and drones to uh anything and helicopters and all of that. We're at the bottom of the the chain, right, the food chain. And so we have to give way to everyone, but there's no clear guidance as to who has priority. When you have a BV loss drone that's a drone delivery or drone as first responder that's flying around that there's no priority. They don't have priority. You don't have priority. So, the bottom line is they're supposed to see an avoid and you're avoid. And if there is a collision, then in my books, it's going to be a 50/50 shared uh responsibility between the two. Now, if it's an Amazon drone, then you stay the heck away from it because we know that they hit cranes and stuff that's not moving. So, uh if you see one of those drone, just stay the hell away from it. That's a joke. Well, ish. Um, can I turn my Jeep Wrangler GL2 twodoor model, okay, uh, into a mobile office in order to run a drone business? Okay. Uh, maybe take out the back seat, turn into a video capture office. I mean, why not? I don't see why not. Sounds fun. Sounds fun in the summer if you live in a place where it's warm all the time, but in the winter maybe not as much. received an FA email about Lance approval. The initial zero grid application was denied. The reapplication was approved for several days. Have you experienced this before? Did you change anything in between? Did you resubmit? I mean, it sounds like they had an issue initially. Maybe you modified and fixed it and then resubmitted. In which case, yeah, it would be pretty normal. I've had lens authorizations or um yeah above grin numbers that took two or three tries before they would let me fly close to the airport. Really [snorts] Did you do make an 360 course? Uh something with an something with another company. Can I get the link with another company? No. Um, we have did we record a VA 360 deep dive? I hate to say it, but Jason has been doing a lot of the deep dives on the drone side to help relieve me. And um, I have not kept track of all the stuff actually. — Okay. V, I know we have a full review coming out. V 360 deep dive is here. Yeah. — Yeah. I don't see much progress in that one. So, I don't know. I don't know where it is. But, we will have we have a video that's coming out because I know we've recorded that not too long ago. Um, so probably in the next this month, more than likely it will be out. Looking to purchase a DJI or Autel drone for public safety operation? Are we going to have trouble getting using these drones if we decide to acquire them? uh it depends on where you live and what your uh state is saying and where the money is coming from. So there are plenty of public safety oper uh agencies that are still using DJI and still buying them. It all depends on the rules you have locally about if it's federal money then no. If it's money that's just you self-funded kind of then yes. Um but yeah, how are you going about getting mapping and lidar clients? Okay, I'm finding it challenging having to educate my clients and really having to sell to convince them. Um I guess I would like to see what you're doing. hear your pitch. Where are you going? Who are you talking to? The bottom line with any business, you have to get in front of the decision makers, right? folks that are going to sign the order or tell someone to go ahead and get this done. Um, so yeah, as far as educating your clients, [sighs] [gasps] chances are you are replacing an existing service possibly that they're

getting done differently with maybe somebody mapping that area on the ground. So, you shouldn't have too hard of a time. I mean, a map is a map, right? Um, so it again it depends if you're trying to get clients that are already using the service or if you're trying to convert people into doing maps and they've never done maps before. In which case, you really need to find what's in it for them. What what problem are you solving? This is always the number one question that you should ask yourself when you start a business. What problem are you solving? And if that customer doesn't have that problem, then it's going to be hard to convince them. Uh but if they do, then your product comes into play. So yeah, I guess those would be my follow-up questions. What are the legal issues of landing on top of someone else's building, turning off the props, and using the camera only? Well, um it's their property and so you would be um you would be possibly trespassing because you're landing on their property and so if you don't have the approval to do that, then that's a no no. Um airspace is different. Flying over somebody's building is fine as long as you don't fly over people. Um yeah, that would be the only thing that I would think of. Is there any specific requirement for the color of the strobe light? No. But I will tell you this. Um, white strobe light is going to be a lot easier to see on the distance based on the testing that we've done. How does daytoday life change for drone pilots once uh part 108 passes? Uh, [sighs] hard to tell. And here's why. because uh part 108 is only a proposal right now. As it is proposed, if let let's just assume for a minute and let's hope that doesn't happen, but let's just assume that it passes as it is proposed uh in the next couple months. then um it doesn't really change anything for you if you are a small operator because as it was proposed part 108 is not really for small operators. It's going to require a lot of paperwork which if you're a single drone operator business type you it's just not going to apply to you. even though the those that wrote those rules pretended that it might you know apply to you but it doesn't. So let's hope that some of the changes that we propose u as an industry u with a bunch of other folks that we got together with let's hope that these changes do happen in which case part 108 would become more of a an additional rating that you would be able to get in which case think about it as um as a permanent beyond visual line of sight waiver that you would receive. uh as we proposed it, not as the FAA is currently proposing it, as we proposed as the changes that we proposed was to make it more of a yeah a permanent waiver if you want. As long as you meet some requirements, then you'd be able to routinely be able to operate beyond visual end of sight, which is by the way the whole nexus of this entire regulation. From the beginning, it was sold to us as the ability to operate beyond visual line of sight routinely as it was proposed. It definitely is not what it was. It was for um basically I just saw Vick's comment. Sorry, get me off track. Um I don't remember what I was saying, but anyway. Yeah. So, let's hope like Vic says, uh 108 passes as written. Uh no, let's hope that's not the case. Let's hope that we get changes to include the 99% as I called it in our comment. I said that we need to give access to beyond visual side rules to the 99% because right now it is designed for the 1% of large operators that are going to be doing drone delivery. That's really the bottom line. So Mike says, "Got here late. Any update on the Autel Sky app for Apple devices? Not that I have heard. I heard that it was not in the store anymore. Um, so no, just wanted to confirm you can operate a drone from a car if you are the passenger and maintain visual line of sight and not flying over cars. Both

recreational and part 107. um recreational there is no there's nothing preventing you from doing that under recreational rules. Um interestingly under part 107 it has to be done from a um in an area that is sparssely populated. So um operating from a car, you got to be careful with that because you still need to have visual line of sight. And if you're inside the car, it's not necessarily the best thing because you can't look behind you. You can't look on top of you unless you have a big sunroof. And so visibility is pretty limited uh in that case. So yeah. Yep. I would get who's the who had the Jeep earlier? I would get a Jeep, remove the roof, remove the doors, and then operate from that. That's perfect for uh for flying from a moving vehicle or have a big sunroof like I have in my car and then just hang out from the sunroof and then just uh look around as somebody else is driving. Boop. Any thoughts on the recently published article DJI's new US security audit by on defend finds no back doors? Yeah. Uh we talked about this in news update on Friday. I didn't really give my opinion uh because I try in news update to stick to the facts as much as possible. I did give my opinion in our um post-flight segment. We call it postflight that we post in the premium community. Um, [sighs] [snorts] how do I say this diplomatically? I don't think that audit is going to make a difference in the court of public opinion. And um, and here's why. because the detractors, the ones that don't like DJI, are going to um discard it. They're going to say that it was paid by DJI, which, you know, they have a point. It was paid by DJI and it found nothing except like 13 11 13 whatever minor issues that DJI says they were going to fix. So, it's not going to convince the detractors that DJI is squeaky clean. Um, because it's not an independent review, if you want. Yes, it's done by an independent company that was hired by DJI to do it. So, um, the reason I'm saying it's not going to make a difference in the court of public opinion is because those detractors are not going to change their opinion. Does it matter? No. What um what this is really good for is for DJI's case against the federal government that they have going on in court where they're going to be able to bring data from a third party that has conducted an audit, an audit that the US government should have conducted. And so the real audit needs to come from the US government which they have done before by the way they have conducted audits. They have not found anything uh in the past. Uh the only thing that the government is saying is that we have proof, but we can't tell you what it is because you're a dumb and you don't have security clearance and uh and you're not cool enough to know the truth, which is obviously total BS. But we I think this whole thing changes the day that there is an audit done by the a fair audit that is done by the government that clearly outlines what the security risk is. Not just we can't tell you because you know you're not cool enough. Um once that comes out then I think the public opinion will change and me first you know show us the proof that this is a security issue that what exactly they're doing with the data and and then there you go. then we can say goodbye to DJI and stop and stop fighting for a fair um a fair trial of DJI and their drones. So that's

it. So yeah, you know what is my opinion of the article of the audit? Just that I think it's good for them that they they're able to pass the audit, but I think it doesn't change anything in the discussion. Um, the anti-DJI crowd will continue and then the pro DJI crowd will continue to say, "I told you it's right here. Black and white. One more proof on that site. " So, yeah. [sighs] Uh, what else? Follow up on Richard question. With a dispatcher operating a drone that is launched from a different building rooftop fire station, how do they get around the BV loss rules? They don't. So, uh you're talking about the drone as first responder. Um they have a waiver basically to fly beyond visual line of sight uh from the inside of a building. As a matter of fact, we applied for our waiver to do that. We have a dock on the roof of our building and um we're hoping to be able to operate it beyond visual line of sight from inside the building from anywhere we are basically in the world. We should be able to operate that drone and the reason we want to do this because we're teaching students how to do that and uh so yeah, you just do it with a waiver. That's the bottom line. Do you know how Skywatch hourly drone insurance is? Um, I mean like as far as reviews, you know, you can I guess you can see the reviews online for Skywatch. Um, I don't vouch for any insurance companies. That's all I'm going to say. [gasps] When you have a 44 807 for heavy lift drone, okay, and you want to fly in class Charlie airspace for non-aggricultural purposes, do you need a KOA for that or a lance? Jason responds, okay, says, yeah, KA is required. I agree. Uh, so yes, a KOA is going to be required in this case. Lance is uh not available for that kind of operation. So, and that should be highlighted in your 44 807 potentially, but yes, that would require a COA or CO. What other equipment uh would you recommend for best practice other than the basic airbend receiver, ADSB server, GPS tracker, others? Um, I mean, [snorts] if you're operating in an area that is um busy, I would definitely get some sort of ADSB receiver and potentially even a remote ID receiver so you can see other drones. ADSB is going to be a lot better. Uh, there are some do-it-yourself options available out there uh that you can build to can tell you when another aircraft is coming in the area. Um, but yeah, that's GPS tracker. I don't know what you would track. There's no real ADSB is that it's a GPS tracker for aircraft, but I don't know what you what GPS signal you would track with a GPS tracker. Um, as far as a radio, airband receiver, I'm guessing maybe is are you talking about a radio like a two-way or oneway radio communication device? Um, a receiver as opposed to a transceiver. I would definitely have one of those. I know people argued with me on this online, which is kind of odd, but um telling me that people shouldn't have a radio to listen to other aircraft, which um no, I disagree. The more information you can get, the better. Yeah, it's not going to be 100% perfect, but when you add all of these solutions, a an ADSB receiver is not going to be 100% perfect. Your vision is not always going to be 100% perfect either. the more things you put together to get a perfect um image of what is going on around you is the way to do it. So, uh yeah, I would a receiver at least to receive aviation frequencies. So, if you're near an airport, you can listen to traffic and figure out where people are based on their radio calls then. Yeah. But yeah, I've always thought that was weird. People would argue with me online that um having a receiver is useless and it's dangerous and this and you know don't transmit on your radio if you have the ability to transmit uh unless it's an emergency. But you know I want to have that option because if my drone has a flyaway and I'm near an airport and I can transmit on the tower to tell them there's a flyaway drone and they can some tell somebody to go around before it hits my drone then heck yeah I'm going to do that even though I'm not supposed to. But in an emergency situation, you're allowed to break any regulation. So, I certainly would uh absolutely do that.

So, but otherwise, no, don't talk on the radio. How do you insure your drone? Um the bottom line is find an insurance company. There are several of them that are um specializing in drones. Get a quote based on how you operate. You can do either a liability insurance, which I if you only get one, get liability insurance. You can get whole insurance, which is uh for paying for the damage to your drone to replace your drone. But at the very least, I would get liability insurance. A lot of your customers, if you do this for a hire, are going to ask for a 1 million or 2 million or if you vic a $5 million insurance policy uh to cover your stuff. And of course, if somebody's asking you for a $5 million uh insurance, it means that they're a pretty serious business that has uh a good understanding of liability and has a lot of assets that they need to protect. And so, they're going to ask you for that. It also means that they have the money typically to uh pay for someone who has a $5 million uh policy. So, [snorts] yep. Any updates on part 108? Yes. ish. Uh we're being told that it's on somebody's desk somewhere. This is not new new. This is like a couple weeks old. Uh it's on somebody's desk and um it's waiting to get reviewed. Typical bureaucracy, I guess. Um we had guessed from the beginning that this was going to come out around the end of summer. Uh last I heard was like Julyish timeline. They said [snorts] it's 1,200 pages of blah blah. Um, which is going to be fun to review, but 1,200 pages also means that they've added a lot to it, which could be a good thing, could be a bad thing, but it means it's not coming out as proposed, so probably a good sign. Um, yeah, there you are. The Avada 360 question was referring to your recent work with Sky Bros. Oh, oh, oh, thank you. Uh, I missed that completely. Yeah, [snorts] Sky Brows, we, you know, we have a relationship with Sky Bros. We've had for years and years now. We met at conferences and uh became good friends with uh Bobby who's the CEO of Sky Brows. And so we've kept touch with everything that they do and they've been doing a lot of updates lately. So we talk about them because we believe it's a good company that does good things uh in the industry. They help public safety agencies. They offer a lot of uh free services as well and free uh trials to their products. And their big um claim to fame, if you want to call that, the big the big selling point of their software is that you can fly your drone and record a video and from that video you can create uh a 2D or a 3D map. It's called videotry instead of photoggramometry. And um with the 360 camera now on the Evvada 360, it means that they have the ability to collect all of that data uh to process instead of a whatever you want to call it a 70 degree field of view. Now they have a 360 degree field of view uh to use the data to uh to produce their models. And so since we had the drone and we were talking to them, I did a demo uh with my Apple Vision Pro with Bobby the CEO where he had a model in front of us. He was in the room. I could see him virtually with his Apple Vision Pro on his side. Um you can't see the goggles when you're in that world. If you've ever done this, it's kind of really impressive. They have this avatar that they build of you. And so what happens is that you put the goggles on, it takes pictures of your face and of all of your features and it animates it. So, and it looks very it's it's very off-putting at first because it looks very realistic, but you can tell that it's actually not real. U I did this with my sister online on a video call and she could not figure out why I look different and it's because I was an avatar. Anyways, so Bobby was in the room and we had this 3D model that he had done with Skybrows in front of me. Um, and I could zoom in and zoom out and I could basically put my head inside of this entire model, make it bigger, make it smaller, and uh, and it was really, really cool. So, um, long story short, I don't even know why I'm saying all this, but we use the Evvada to record footage of our building on the outside and he was able to put a map of our building uh, together very quickly. And Jason, who's our mapping expert in the office, uh, was very impressed. Jason is uh, certified with Pix 4D uh

Mapper and other platforms. We've actually were using those platforms in our mapping courses as well. And um he was very impressed with the fact that in a two-minute flight uh he was able to get almost as many details as we do with a several hundred photo flight that we would do in Pix 4D. Now, it doesn't take anything away from Pix 4D, which is also a great platform. It just shows that video grammarry is just a great way to do this. So, yeah, that's kind of the extent of the partnership. If you want to hear e okay we have eight minutes couple questions I'm going to do a quick going through these each month there are a few drone pilots caught by the FA at the same time each month 10 general aviation pilot crash and many die have there been any changes to GA as uh there are for drones yeah absolutely and it you know it's not because the FA goes after drone pilots that they can't go after man aircraft pilots they have for years uh people think that airplanes crash because of a lack of oversight by the FAA. That's not the case. Uh there is oversight. Um it just happens that the people are in the airplane. It's a much higher risk operation than flying a drone. How many drones crash every month? We don't hear about them because nobody dies. But uh yes, the FA is absolutely uh overseeing general aviation as well. I've managed flight schools for 17 years and I can tell you that I saw FAA vans full of employees in my building um several times a year to come and look at our maintenance to do ramp checks of our pilots and to do other things. So we did not go without oversight and yes we had accidents and incidents and all these things because that's the nature of flying aircraft and just like we have car accidents every day. So yeah, the fact that the FA is after drones doesn't take away from the rest of aviation is the bottom line. Uh, [sighs and gasps] okay. We have that guy. He's under the name Mal Hydronone. Okay. He's just doing everything that's not allowed, including flying over stadiums at game time, freeways, national park, and more. What can we do? Well, report the flights. If you believe that they're um uh that they're unsafe, report the flights to the local FSDO and they'll there used to be a guy that was in some city in Philadelphia in Pelania. Anyways, there used to be a dude that did that and then he doesn't anymore because the FA got after him. So, yeah. Who do you recommend for uh video photography mapping? Video photography mapping. Who do you recommend? Us. We have a course on mapping if that's what you're looking for. We're actually four courses on mapping uh from basic all the way to LAR. So, you can buy those courses on the website and they're awesome. Actually, they're getting an update. Uh we recorded the update. It's being edited right now. So, it's going to be posted um soon on our website in the course. So, if you buy the course, you'll still get access. Anyone see the hydrogen powered drone? Will it solve battery scaling problems? Well, maybe, maybe not. Um, hydrogen is good, but it has its own issues. Um, especially with something that might crash. So, I don't know. The jury is still out. How did you fly the Mini 2 with the prop guards on with any stability in your video several years ago? I have the same prop guards for the Mini3 and it wobbles a couple feet off the ground with no wind. Oh, interesting. No, we never had that issue. Um, did you, if I remember correctly, it was years ago. take a look at um, in the settings. Sorry, I'm brain farting. uh take a look in the settings and see if there is a an option to turn on to tell the drone that it has prop guards on. Well, that was a very long thought for very nothing. Uh yeah, so go in the settings, see if there is a button in there to engage. I know it's in some of the drone, but I don't remember if it's in the Mini 2 uh in this case or in the Mini 3, but I'm pretty sure it is. So, if it has official prop guards, it is likely a setting in in there that you can turn on and see if that helps. That's all I can think of right now.

Yeah, ground effect also possibly like Vic said, but see if you can fly it a little bit higher, but and I know Vic flies a lot with prop guards for some of his stuff. I can use my 107 registration for recreational use for my drone, then later get my 107 license for commercial use, or do I register recreationally and then change to 107? Um, good question. A registration is a registration. So, if you plan on getting part 107, I would get the part 107 registration now, especially if you have more than one drone because then the drone is registered with its own number. The thing that is very confusing with registration is that it's a part 47 registration regardless if it's 107 or recreational. The key is the reg the regulation says that under recreational rule, you only use one registration number for all your drones under 107. Each drone has to be registered individually, but that registration is exactly the same. So, what I even tell people is that if you only have one drone and you started recreational and you register that drone, it has a number on it. So, part 47 registration, if you get your part 107, you don't have to register that drone again because it's already registered because you already have a registration. Now, if you get another drone, then you would have to add that one and have its own number. But that's really the bottom line. So, um yeah. Scott says, "Does Greg want a beer? " Of course he does. always, but not always, but it's good time right now. It's, uh, 5:00 somewhere in 2 minutes. So, um, sorry I'm late. I'm working with a client who wants a 1 million liability insurance with their name as an additional insured. Yep, that's very common. Client and job is in Texas. Any recommendation for insurers? No, like I said earlier, for insurance, um, I don't recommend insurance companies. Uh, they're a dime a dozen out there. go look and get quotes from all of them and then see which one works better for you. But, uh, yeah, $1 million liability insurance is pretty typical. Does it matter what color reflective tape you put on to prevent birds from attacking your drone? Nope. Not that I know of. Um, yep. Nope. Uh, many are now using the Sky Rover X1 drone. Sky Rover now has remote ID, but it doesn't always appear using thirdparty apps. Uh, if the serial number appears on the FA site, can we legally register them? Yeah, look at the uh the Doc Declaration of Compliance website. Pretty sure it's doc. fa. Let me see if I have a link here. Oh, yeah. It's uas doc. fa. gov. Uh there you're going to find a list of approved drones that have remote ID in the drone itself. Um as a standard, it's called standard remote ID. And so if you find it there and your registration, your serial number falls in the list of approved serial numbers, then it means that you are compliant with remote ID. And that's really all you have to do. By the way, the FA doesn't ask that you verify that it transmits. They just is on the website. Um, Vic says, "Tape doesn't work and the swallows swarm my drone yesterday. " Yikes. I can't add links. Oh, maybe I can. Maybe Jason can. Let me see if that worked. Oh, no, I can. Okay, it depends on what account I'm logged in. Only us can. Only admins can put links in there. So, all right. You have it, folks. These are all the questions. And uh I will not be here on Monday of next week. Um so either Jason is going to be here or we're going to cancel. — We can talk. — Okay. Yeah, we're likely going to cancel next week unfortunately. Uh but I'll be back in office the week after. So um but if Jason is brave enough to come here and answer the questions, maybe we'll have it on. You guys should put your thoughts in the comments about that. And that's it. Uh, we will have Friday news update as always, whether it's going to be me or somebody else. And um, yeah, that's it. — Yeah, don't be that guy. Don't make me talk about you in news update as being that guy. And then uh, yeah, we'll see you in two weeks. Have fun.