Lee. Now, all this talk about AI, AI scaling, AI spending, AI this and AI that, you may be wondering what that has to do with crypto or worse, is it going to hurt crypto, hurt crypto demand? Does that mean we're not going to have another bull run or altcoin season? Well, timely is like no the two are complimentary and AI scaling could help the entire space and I've heard an interview before where he talked about it and if you think about it makes a lot of sense. Let's listen to this one together. I haven't heard it yet, but I'm pretty sure it's listen to this one together. I haven't heard it yet. Echo. — Joining us now is Funstrap managing partner and CNBC contributor Tom Lee. Tom, good to chat with you. as best as you know or can tell what happened on Friday and what happened today because those days 48 trading hours apart are very different. — Yeah, Brian, as you know, um stocks had done well for some time. So, I think there's a lot of people that are worried about the air gap below because so many stocks move so quickly. And then jitters emerged. Uh I'd say three jitters emerged uh last week. The first is you know how strong is the AI trade especially with some of the guidance that came out of Broadcom. Uh the second of course is just the realization that Google is going to raise 80 billion plus SpaceX 75 Open AI maybe 100 you know anthropic 75 and then Meta of course filed as well. So there's a lot of equity being raised and asking the public to fund that. And the third is of course, you know, the geopolitical tensions. I think people get generally nervous into a weekend and they're worried about — whether there could be something happening in Iran. So I think those are the jitters and as you know, uh we get these pullbacks, you know, in our opinion and we post we public we commented over the weekend on this. I think it's a false narrative to think the bull market is in trouble. I think the bull market's still in intact and in very good shape. — Tom, it's Kelly here back at the studio. And one of the areas that's been obviously most under pressure is crypto. Um, and I know that you say people shouldn't give, you know, throw in the towel, but I think it feels like a lot of the kind of buying velocity has simply left the space and I'm not sure when it will ever return. — Well, yes. I mean, Kelly, I think people are really disappointed by crypto this year because number one, uh, they didn't go up when AI was going up, but in some ways, crypto is a downstream story of AI because as AI capabilities go up, we already hear it from a lot of those AI researchers, it's going to increase the need for blockchain because that's the only way to prove and validate transactions and actually protect us from AI. Um, last week I think that there were some highprofile sort of quote AI security exploits. One that happened on the Orchid suite for Zcash. Um, and that caused some panic. I don't know why it should have caused all of crypto to sell off. But keep in mind, AI exploits are happening at a rapid pace and an increasing pace across all of financial services. It's just that the publicly traded banks don't actually reveal the exploits. So I think that these attack surfaces are increasing everywhere and we have to be mindful of that. And the third is uh you know Wall Street is still tokenizing. It's a real it's a big innovation turning money into software tokenizing equities and real estate. These are composability issues that only happen on blockchain. So to me I think the crypto narrative is still in good shape. But you're right the excitement and the FOMO has been in AI. You know, Tom, going back to the stock market, seeing some of the mag seven stocks down, the Dow is — all right. I think he raises some good points there. And he also forgot to talk about Sailor. I think he purposely left that out. And um he's right. I totally forgot last week we did have the Zcash exploit that Claude found and that actually caused Zcash to go down quite a lot. And you know what? for believers uh actually came back up most of it most of it. So exploits [clears throat] will always be a thing and AI as it gets smarter has been finding a lot more. And like he said, banks and financial institutions, they have breaches all the time. Like I get emails all the time about these companies getting breached and consumer uh data getting, you know, sold on the black web. That's how we get our credit card numbers and our emails and all this spam that comes from them. But they happen all the time and we're going to hear more about it. Those of you guys that are in AI have heard about mythos and how supposedly it cracked all these systems that have never been cracked for decades. So that's one thing. But the second thing is like you think about it, the two are complimentary. We hear about banks and financial institutions getting into RWA. Tokenizing funds, tokenizing stocks, tokenizing yield, tokenizing treasuries. Where do you think all that sits? That sits on ledgers. Okay. So, they're utilizing crypto. Let's not forget what about the Clarity bill and the Genius bill. Genius Bill has passed. Clarity act is coming up. What is that? Well, all these companies are trying to get involved with stable coins. Where do stable coins sit on ledgers, right? So, the companies or the projects that operate these ledgers are going to benefit tremendously. ones like ETH which Tom Lee holds 5% of and soul and BSC and others like chain link ando whatever they're all going to benefit and then you got to think about all this digital ID digital just transferring digital currency and then not only that infrastructure right all this talk about infrastructure lack of it, lack of compute, lack of storage, lack of network, lack of
I'm either not getting enough sleep or I'm getting sick. These uh my chest feels kind of achy right now. So, I'm not going to talk too much in this Q& A. Maybe like 10 minutes and I'm will drop off. Slim, you're welcome. Uh are we getting rugpulled again with stocks pumping? Uh I don't think we're getting rugpulled. Okay. But there are FOMO. A lot of people are FOMOing. And when that happens, there is a little bit of rotation obviously. But you know what? I didn't check. I did show my video yesterday. Uh let's see. ETF inflow yesterday was still unfortunately a small net outflow minus 91 million minus 6 only for ETH. Uh less than a million for soul. I don't know XRP didn't register anything. Yesterday we still had a little bit of outflow, but I then noticed that if you look at liquidity, we added $800 million in liquidity. So obviously moving in the right direction. It doesn't make up for how much liquidity has come out of the market, but it's a step in the right direction having almost $800 million come in with stables. Okay, that means people are putting their money back in to buy. So, that's good. Um, yeah, the Siri update from Apple. Apple actually they went down after that announcement yesterday, whatever conference they had. They're going with Gemini. They're dropping Open AI and they're going Gemini. Basically, whatever AI features they're introducing is all from Gemini that already exists. So, they're just labeling it Siri AI, but it's really just Siri plus Gemini. Gemini has a lot of cool like features around video, pictures, stuff like that. But, and Gemini as AI is decent. They incorporate into Google searches now. So, uh by default, most people are using it. But as a LLM, as a coding agent, it it's really behind. It's really far behind GBT and Opus and some of the other ones um overseas, but you know, they're kind of going the way of anthropic with Claude. No, I mean they're going the opposite of Claude, which is really targeting consumers, and that's the right model. Uh and that's why they're the second biggest company on the planet. I branched out. I created a new one called Bitcoin returns. So the monthly price, monthly returns and then quarterly you can now see even ethereum right is under this new category called Bitcoin returns. It used to be under chain metrics. Uh but chain metrics has all this like MVRV ml and mayor multiple null all this stuff which I did showcase like this which shows us in accumulation stage a little clearer but that's all in there. today with stocks. Almost not almost everything, but you got some Good movers. Pretty good recovery all around. There are a lot in here that I have no idea what they are. Yeah, there's some weird ones in here. Never heard of them. Not a crazy day. Apple's down. [gasps] Apple after their announcement, they're down. People are not terribly impressed with Apple. Apple and yesterday's conference was their last was the last one from Tim Cook. Tim Cook is mixed bag. Um some people really liked what he did because uh obviously he made them the one of the biggest companies on the planet and you know improved some stuff basically maximized revenue and profits but really just no innovation at all. Apple has like no innovation zero. Um and they have zero presence as a big tech company. They're the only one with zero presence in AI. They have nothing. No investments in AI either. Nothing. So now they're trying to play catchup. Um inadvertently, you know, they sold a lot of Mac minis due to Open Claw and these agents, but that's about it. You know, Google, Nvidia, Microsoft, Amazon, I mean Meta, you name it. All these guys are all heavily into AI either with their own models or they have made investments or they're building. Apple's the only one that has zero presence. So now they're integrating Gemini. But you think about it, you think, now that I think about it, it's kind of weird, right? Because look at it. Apple and Google are neck andneck two and three and uh and you're using your competitor's product. Apple and Google are definitely big competitors in the phone space because there's only two. There's only Android and iPhones. And now you're basically utilizing your competitor's product. Uh, that's why Google's up 2% and Apple's down 2%. So, it's no good. After this Friday, we'll have SpaceX up here, too. All right, I'm going to get off. Not feeling so hot and I didn't sleep much. I've been working too much. Like I get very little sleep. that probably contributing to how I'm feeling today. All right. Well, stay strong, my friends. There's some good stuff happening in this space. A lot of good stuff. We will get through this FUD. We always do. So, stay strong, my friends. We'll see how today the rest of today goes with the US market rallying. It could definitely help crypto. So, smash it a like, subscribe to the channel. Have a good one.