Let's review REALITY CHECK: Inside America's Next Top Model (Netflix Documentary) - Episode 2.
Episode 1 https://youtu.be/RQ5QjE5CQno
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Episode 3 https://youtu.be/rnFxUUKQMRQ
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Segment 1 (00:00 - 05:00)
So, I've been reacting to America's Next Top Model for a few years now. I recently found out that the clips from my reaction videos. Two of them were used in the actual Netflix documentary on America's Next Top Model. I have information from the contestants and then my own speculation. And today, I'm going to be reacting to the actual documentary on Netflix. Also, I made a bingo card for this because I have a feeling that they're going to bring up certain things. So, I wrote it down in a bingo card format to check off every time it comes up in the documentary. This is what's currently checked off on the bingo card. It was of the time. The industry is tough. Blackface race swapping photo shoot mentioned. If you want to follow along, great. If not, I will have this next to me and be checking things off. Where we last left off, the girls were in Milan doing goies, picking their drivers from a group of young Italian men on mopeds. After the goies, someone suggested the guys come to dinner and drinks with the girls at their model apartment. Shandi later shared that she drank heavily that night, blacked out, and briefly remembers one of the men being on top of her. Then it cuts to Tyra being asked about Shandi. Just a disclaimer, everything I say in this video is my own personal opinion and speculation, not fact. — I just sat there and cried. — Shandi does have a relationship back home at this point. Were they trying to get her to ruin her relationship? They're trying to like push her into that. It feels like to me personally that they set this environment up so that something can happen. That's what I think. This is so sad. — Production should have stopped it. — Yeah. Production should have stepped in. She's completely intoxicated. Why would they allow that to happen? Why didn't they step in? And you can tell this still affects her. It's been what, 20, 30 years? This is sad and it's hard to watch. It's a little difficult for me to talk about production because I'm that's not my territory. — It's not my territory. It's not her territory until it's time for her to take credit for the ratings on the show and you take taking credit for filming everything and coming up with that idea. Everything's Tyra's idea except for this one moment where she it's difficult to talk about. I'm just getting angry watching this. Okay. We treated Top Model as a documentary. No matter what happens, while you're on camera, we're going to document all of that. — Is it really documentary? If you're setting up all these environments, you're bringing in these guys, you're giving them alcohol. Who supplied the alcohol? Did the girls go out and buy it? Who bought the alcohol? No. No. documentaries, you go in and you don't interfere with anything, and you just film things as they occur in normal life, daily life. This is not normal life. — But of course, when she went into the shower, she was technically not alone. So, the cameras went in and they — they went into the bathroom to film her. Wait, so they have a rule that the bathroom is private, but wait, no, she wasn't alone. So now the bathroom's not private anymore and we're going to film this. — This was a story point now and we're going to see it all the way through. — No sorry, nothing. No, I feel horrible. No, I wish I would have stepped in. Nothing. It's just like, oh, it was for the story. It was a story point. Her life, her trauma is just a story, a plotline for this show. So revealing. It's it's so interesting to hear from the models again talking about their trauma and all this these terrible things they had to go through and then the judges are just recalling just it's like a u it's they're just recalling their time on the show as a business. — I don't know whose decision it was but as producers — then who does if you don't know whose decision it was executive producer did they ask him the same question? No. Nobody knows. No one no one's going to tell us in this documentary. — This is wrong. But while saying that, let's continue watching. — Luxer, who's also a YouTuber who's done reactions to America's Next Top Model, what she was featured in this documentary just now, and I think that uh it was mentioned in the comments that they spliced what she said out of context. Like that's not really what she said. That's crazy that they took what another YouTuber said, put it in the documentary and just rearranged it to sound like something that it wasn't. But also, it kind of fits with America's Next Top Model cuz I feel like that's what they're all about. So, they bring Tyra in the next day to talk to the girls about what? Ju take a guess. Cheating. — I had one guy that cheated on me in Milano. He was a male modeled child. — What? What is going on? I never watched this episode, but I wish I did because what what are we watching right now? You think she's just here to have a coffee with them, have dinner? No, she's here for a purpose. And Tyra specifically talks to Shandi about how
Segment 2 (05:00 - 10:00)
she says, "I had one guy that cheated on me in Milano. " Not only are they, in my opinion, setting these situations up with the models, they're also reinforcing them, pushing more of this story, right? What is Why is she telling Shandi that specifically? because she's trying to push this storyline that Shandi is a cheater and yeah, you know, I had to go through that. I was cheated on Shandandy. So, trying to get the audience on board with this narrative that Shandi's a cheater. This is making me so mad. — I always tell my man like, "Don't cheat. " Oh my god, they're trying to make Shandi feel so horrible right now. And then they pant to Shandi and then Tyra says, "Flirt so much with the girl and then come home. " They're also now like digging this hole deeper. This is evil. This is just evil stuff. They're toying with her to her face and she has no idea. — And she comes in and stokes the fire under the guise of concerned big sis or mentor. — Oh my god. She This so true. — 100% agree. Tyra comes in acting like I'm your mentor. I'm looking out for you guys. So, I was cheated on. That hurt me so much. Shandy, what happened? Oh, you were crying on the bed. Oh, I don't know what happened. Actually, it's not like I created the show. And it's not like I'm a producer or anything on this show. Sorry. Cheating on. I'm not judging you. — Also, why would Tyra just show up and talk about cheating? How did that get brought up? — All about your relationship and how open your relationship is and how honest you can be with one another. Tyra's trying to push her to admit to her boyfriend on camera that she did this. Tyra and that's why Tyra didn't answer that question because she knows exactly what role she played in this situation. And I think it's awful. Tyra is there simply to keep this story going to keep it moving along. You know, she's there to push her to the next chapter of this story that they're creating of her that she's a cheater. I feel so awful for Shandandy. and how honest you can be with one another. — Why don't Why aren't you honest with us, Tyra? She's like, "It's all about being open and honest with each other. " Okay, let's start right now on this documentary. She can't even take her own advice. — Like, I want to go home. I don't want to be a part of this anymore. — Shandi says after this, she wanted to go home and production kept trying to talk her out of it. And then when she mentioned that she wanted to talk to her boyfriend Eric, they're like, "Oh, well, now we can get you a phone. How convenient. " Okay. Okay, let me guess. The cameras were rolling for that. — Are you okay, human? — I can't be with someone that cheated on me. You think about how we wanted to be together forever, then he throw it away, — you stupid. — The only people who had any type of compassion were the sound guy and the person filming Shandandy. — They both came up to me and they said, "We're really, really sorry that we had to film that. " — They had a little bit of compassion for her, but not enough to not film it. It really breaks my heart to listen to this. It really does. Chandandy, — they just knew that like this isn't right. — Did they show it on camera? They took her to the doctor. I mean, production. — Did they show her on camera? Production was responsible for her. That's crazy. This is just sad. Isn't — they have sent her to the doctor in privacy? But it's reality, so now we're going to cover it. Poor girl. — Poor girl. That's the most you're going to get. That's the most we're going to get from him. No one's showing any kind of empathy from the judges. Don't you feel anything watching this? Like, I don't even know her. her and I feel terrible for her. And me as a viewer, I'm like, I wish someone would have stepped in and stopped that. I'm not even I don't have anything to do with this show. them being part of the show and not even expressing that they wish something would have been done differently or they feel any type of emotion towards this is alarming. The lack of empathy and the most we got is poor girl. — Why can't you just ask them yourself? Why do you have to film this? — They filmed everything that happened in this what they refer to as a story, a story line. Even down to her asking um if the guy that guy wore protection. They did not spare her any privacy. — When I went into post and saw the footage, we scaled back that scene. — Oh, wow. How noble. — In a significant way. — Sorry. That's Ken Mock. — Oh, I did. — Ken Mock really thinks he did something so charitable. He's like, "Well, you know, we scaled that back. We could have ruined her life more, but we only ruined it um 90%. " And there was another 5% that you didn't even see cuz that's how great and uh charitable we are. There was a part where she was drinking water. We didn't include that, you know, and she didn't even use a filter when
Segment 3 (10:00 - 15:00)
she drank that water. That could have been a whole thing. So Ken Mock admits to us he's the one looking at this footage and choosing what goes in. — We scaled back that scene. Who's we? Don't be shy. Give us the names. Who is it? I wonder who's important enough from this show to be featured in a documentary that would have that knowledge to answer those questions. H who's next — in a significant way? — I'm not head of story. — Oh, it's Tyra. Oh, That's Ken Mock. — Of course, it's not. — You did become a master editor. — Oh, you did become She became a master editor, everyone. But she's not head of story. She has nothing to do with that. That's not her territory. — It's important for people to know that we didn't put everything on TV. — This is a terrible time for the bingo card. On my card, I highlighted former producer, you didn't see everything because Tyra said we didn't put everything on TV, which I knew. I knew that one was coming. I'm waiting for the looking back. It's complicated. Or long pause before answering a hard question, which I feel like she kind of did. — Then they had to rush re-edit that scene. — Wait a second. So he references the Super Bowl situation and saying that we had to rush and re-edit the scene. Why — regulations clamp down on what you could show? — Why would you? And then but remember he he's referencing the Janet Jackson moment with Justin Timberlake. So are you implying that you guys showed a lot more and you had to re-edit that scene because of those regulations? So then is he kind of admitting that they had initially shown a lot worse but only because of these regulations they had to scale back but Ken Mock is framing it like no we had to scale it back like trying to make it seem like that was their decision personally interest that's so interesting Mr. Jay doesn't know what Ken Mock is saying in this documentary Mr. J tells a story of when him, Miss Jay, and Tyra went out to dinner. They were walking down the street and some kids say, "Oh, look, there's Beyonce. " Then the girl said, "No, that's Tyra Banks because she's with the Jay's, Mr. J and Miss Jay. " — Because it's the Jay's. And I said, "Oh, okay. " — And then Mr. J says he looked at Miss Jay and knew that it's not going to go down well because it's Tyra's show and she's being misidentified as Beyonce. But then people are identifying the Jay's properly. Then it cuts to a clip of Tyra saying, "The Jay's get recognized more than me walking down the street in New York City. " It's crazy. She doesn't seem happy that Miss Jay and Mr. Jay are being recognized more than she is on her own show. And that's what matters the most to her. She wants to be recognized for the show, but she's not going to take any responsibility for the show. That's not how that works. — Kenmok was the head of story. I don't know. Sorry, but it is my show, and you should recognize me more than Mr. and Mrs. J. that are now in the dictionary. — My bingo card smies with your eye. — I have smise tuching h to t. So, we're crossing that off. So, we've got one, two, three. three, four, five already. And maybe the long pause before answering a hard question that's going to come up at some point. I'm not really paying attention to that, so you guys can tell me. We're doing a pretty good job with the bingo card. — Oh my god, I think we built a monster. Executive producer Kenmach says, "We built a monster. " After they show a montage of the riots and the crowds of people trying to audition for the show, and only then he realized we created a monster. — How do you get that I can't believe they're doing that moment again? — They're literally telling us, she says, "We have to find a way to reinvent the moment of I can't believe they're doing that. " So, if you think this was still about modeling, the former president is literally telling us it's just about uh creating shock value. — Was a show Fear Factor and Survivor and all of these things. — Okay. What does that have to do with America's Next Top Model? No, you're not going to bring Fear Factor and Survivor in as references to this modeling show that Tyra created because why? She said she wanted to show what the real world of modeling is like, the behind the scenes of modeling. And then she references survivor fear factor. Girl, I can't. Is it in my bingo? Is this on my bingo card somewhere? That's an insane thing to reference. Fear factor where people had to eat cockroaches. — You guys were demanding it. She said that in the trailer, which I reacted to. She blames the audience. Is that on the card? No, they she I have one for they blame the models, but she hasn't I mean, they've been blaming the models the entire time. — The viewers wanted more and
Segment 4 (15:00 - 20:00)
more. — So, she's blaming the audience yet again. I was reading comments on YouTube where it's like uh Tyro is blaming like 12-year-old girls at the time who were watching her show. Her 12-year-old viewers did not want a tarantula on someone's face or a blackface photo shoot or race swapping photo shoot, which by the way, are they going to bring that up at any point? — I don't even eat meat. I'm a vegan. — Now, they're talking about the photo shoots on the show, and Mr. J says there were a lot of cooks in the kitchen, so they had to change things up. Then, it's showing the meat photo shoot where Whitney is made to wear an outfit made of meat. And it just so happens that Whitney is a vegan. They know the girls. their beliefs and they're going to apply that to the show in order to push and pull. — I can feel and taste what people want to see. — We want to see some accountability. The only time Tyra comes up in this documentary is to talk about again audience ratings, business related stuff. — Take the girls fears, turn it into a photo shoot. — What was I saying in my reaction videos constantly? If you're scared of anything, you don't tell the people from America's Next Top Model. You got to lie. You got to say, "Oh, you know, I am scared of money. " Just it terrifies me. You know what? I'm actually really scared of cereal. Did I tell you honey bunches of oats? Cinnamon Toast Crunch specifically. Just thinking about it with milk. Lactoseree milk just really makes me nervous thinking about it. Okay, we're not going to be in a giant bowl of cereal, are we? — Tyra stint as a homeless person for a day. — Did we forget that Tyra pretended to be homeless for a day? That's great. And then she turned it into a photo shoot. — It looks stunning. — There were some ideas that were wrong. — They And you know what? They have the judges reacting to moments from the show, but the judges don't really say anything. They just st they're like, "Okay. " They just awkwardly look at it and say nothing. They mentioned the challenges and photo shoots from the show like the runway challenge where they're holding fire and then where they had to hold cockroaches, tarantulas on their face where they brought in the fears of the girls. — There were some ideas that were wrong and were not good to have and were silly. — Okay, that's a start. Which ones? Give us examples. Nidol's the first person who's like, "This was wrong. " For some reason, no one really seemed to see it. — it, even though we just heard from Kenmach that he watches the footage and he scales back when necessary. And remember, Mr. J says that they had to rush and re-edit footage because of regulations. You know, I will say Nigel's the first one to say some ideas were wrong and silly. He says silly. I mean, that's actually he's the only person who said anything like that so far. So — yeah, there's some dumb I mean, it's dumb. I'm like, what the hell? — Be specific. I need examples. Can you elaborate? Okay, we're making pro slow progress here. Everything is too vague for me. It's too vague. Yeah, it was kind of dumb. Mhm. It was silly. What was what? What was silly? Crickets. Cricket. Nothing. Just keep it moving to get answers. Come on, guys. I don't know how we ended up there, but — then who does? Oh my god, we don't know how we ended up here. Is this on my bingo card, too? Cuz that's I feel like we've already checked that one off. I'm going to cross off long pause before answering a hard question cuz I feel like that happened and I didn't catch it. I'm just going to cross it off at this point. There weren't even any hard questions. I don't feel like the producers who did this documentary are even trying to get answers from the I know. I think that they know they're not gonna say anything. Long pause before answering hard a hard question or literally any question. How are you doing today? Um, okay. That's it. Like, don't even ask them how they're doing. — No, I never thought about, you know, can we er can't we error it? Good job. — She never thought about it. They didn't think twice about it except when they're being asked questions about it in the documentary 30 years later. That's when they're like, "Oh, you know what? Now I have to think about it. I don't know. No idea. No one knows anything. They don't know how they got there. We're not sure. But at the time, we knew what we could air and didn't want to air. And we aired it all. And it was a story line documentary and we had to film everything. But we don't know. Also, at the same time, we don't know what was going on. So, don't ask us. So, now we learned about Danielle and Joanie from cycle 6 of America's Next Top Model. I think it's really nice that they have models from the same season in the same episode to recall moments from their cycles. So, I like this the format of the documentary so far. Danielle Evans talks about how Top Model was a one-way ticket for her to get out of her hometown and that she considered trying
Segment 5 (20:00 - 25:00)
out for the show. The Gap, the infamous Gap. So Danielle says the day after a challenge they put the girls in a group and said Danielle and Joanie were going to be going first on a field trip to the dentist. — The dentist is going to do something about that snaggle tube and or that gap too and perfect your — the snaggle to Mr. J. I hope they made Mr. J react to this him saying that they're not. But I already know that they're not going to. He's like for the gap too. We're inclusive here. It's We're all about equality. You also have uh you know your overbite. It's crazy. — Your tears are joy — because I was always really self-conscious about my teeth. — So the guy in the dentist's office is asking Danielle, "Okay, what do you want to do about your gap? " And she's like, "The gap is staying. I love my gap. — The signature gap is staying in my mouth. That's who I am. " — I love Danielle for this. She's like, "It's staying. — That's not your right to tell me what to do. " absolutely — my body. — And then it now is cutting to Joanie and he's basically telling her she has to remove her teeth, multiple teeth. — Couldn't talk to my mom about it. Couldn't call a lawyer or anything like that. — She didn't even get to talk to her family about this dentist suggesting that she remove four teeth. And she has to sign a release too right then and there. She doesn't get to think about it or get a second opinion. this guy that she just met in this dentist office is like, "Oh, you got to remove four teeth. " Yeah. And it's for the show. So, you're compelled to say yes. Right. — Here they are. — She has her teeth — right here. — Oh my god. So, then she Joanie shows us that she still has her teeth. It was like in a folder or something. She still has them. — There were gobsmack moments where you watch, you're like, "Oof. " — He doesn't give examples. He doesn't say, "Oh, what Joanie went through this moment with Danielle. " He always just says, "Yeah, it was a crazy moment. Not sure how we got here. " Very generalized language. — Look at my teeth. — It was insane. — Was he almost smiling saying that? She had to do dental surgery at this point. Could you say it's dental surgery? Shaving down teeth. Pencil. She says pencil points. She She's there all night doing these procedures. 12 It says 12:04 a. m. She's at the census office for something she just approved. Like she signed paperwork for and they just told her that she's doing that same day. She didn't mentally prepare for it. She didn't get a second opinion and now they're shaving her teeth done. They removed teeth. Joanie tells us that after this medical surger is it a surgery procedures that they did on her teeth that they did a photo shoot afterwards and she was in a lot of pain. She was miserable — just for beauty. They did not fix anything. There were many orthodontic problems that were never fixed. — So Joan is telling us after everything that they did on her teeth, it was only for cosmetic reasons for beauty reasons. They didn't fix the actual problems that she had. like she has says that she has a crazy bite issue and she says those issues will never be resolved. It's always for the show and nothing more. It's not for you. It's not for your benefit, the models. It's for the show. So Tyra tells Danny basically, if I keep you in this competition, are you going to get your gap closed? — If I don't get my gap closed, you're going to send me home. — So this is them implying that, hey, if we're going to keep you, you got to close your gap. — Get them teeth done all the way. Completely. — I think all the way. She says, "Congratulations. " After basically telling her, "You're going to get that gap closed. I don't care what you tell me you want or what you don't want. You're going to do what we want. " Danielle knows that she has gotten this far. She doesn't want to squander this opportunity. And I got my gap closed. Um, — someone was like, "I don't think that's a good idea. " — What is someone saying? I don't think that's a good idea. Okay, I'll take Okay, we get Nigel seems to be the only judge so far that's saying this is wrong. Now we're getting into specifics. Thank you. — Yeah, not my decision, but it's the decision. — And the people who are making these decisions, are they in this documentary? It's like we're close, but we're so Yeah, we're so far. — It just shows how out of touch this is. There's me in the documentary talking about how out of touch Tyra is. I Nothing's changed. I don't think she's in touch now. I still think she's out of touch. — A gap created in a girl's girl. That is absolutely ridiculous. — Yes. A few seasons later, they had a model whose teeth they widened her gap. But remember, they were so hellbent on closing Danny's gap a few seasons before. — I've actually apologized for the issue with Danny and what happened. — Okay, this is the only time Tyra said apologize. And she says that she
Segment 6 (25:00 - 30:00)
apologized for what happened with Danny. The issue she says the issue with Danny and what happened which is she never gets into specifics. It's very vague. Everything they say is very vague. Yes. I addressed the situation that happened between us during that time and I said what I needed to say but at the time I didn't know what was happening and I'm not sure where what happened really sort of like stuff. It would drive me crazy to speak to someone like that. — She will not work with those teeth. It's just not going to happen. That's what they told me. — You knew what you were doing for the show. It — Yeah, I believe Danielle. Tyra is trying to blame the agency. I've never heard of models having to do proced like large procedures like that on their teeth, on their face. I've heard of the models doing hair makeovers. Like I know a model from Australia who was like, "My agency wanted me to dye my hair darker, so she did it. She was blonde. So, that's something I've heard, but not they wanted to close her gap. Like, they wouldn't sign her if she had her gap. That seems wild to me. Good for TV at my expense. — Yes, Danielle knows what she's talking about. Everything she says, I'm like, absolutely agree. This She's like the voice of reason in this documentary. like tomorrow. — Also, I spoke with Sarah Hartzhorn, who was on this cycle with Heather and was here in this moment when this happened when she passed out. She fainted because we did a reaction video to this uh episode and she was telling me that she was trying to get production to call an ambulance and they allegedly did not do that. They would wouldn't call an ambulance for her. Also, take a moment to check out her book that she wrote from the show. It's called You Want to Be on Top. This book is all about her experiences on the show. So, take a look. It will be in the description as well. Link for the book. — That happened. — They've accepted that. Okay, my health is second to this competition. That's the second clip of me in this documentary. Everyone was asking me if I knew if that I'm going to be in this documentary. People were texting me saying, "Hey, did you know that you're in this? " I had no idea. So, I found out from my YouTube commenters that I was in this documentary. They used clips of me. I think they always put the girls health second to the competition. Maybe even third or fourth, not even second. But they just didn't prioritize the models well-being and their health. And that's something that I still believe today. I already reacted to the clips of me in the documentary. So that's why I don't seem as shocked because I've people told me about it already and I've seen them already. — People have 104 degree temperature. They're throwing up. They need IVs. The executive producer for this show, Ken Mach, is seen in an interview saying, "The biggest disaster ever is always the best thing. " — That's the best news I could ever have. — You think he's saying the same stuff in this documentary now? You think he's saying, "Oh, the best news I had making this show was when a girl was deathly sick and the emergency and she was in the emergency room. " No. This is Kenmach in his true form. These girls never stood a chance. Not with people like this behind the scenes. Yeah. — When I was a kid, my mom was shot and she was paralyzed. — Oh my god. — No, they didn't make her do a photo shoot where she was shot by a model. I didn't know that. So, a model whose mom was shot and paralyzed had to do a photo shoot where they were crime scene victims and she her story for the photo shoot was she was shot by a model. I didn't know her backstory until now. I had no idea — getting married and she was — she says it on the show. Her she tells a story about her mom being shot and paralyzed. So they knew they made this information public. They are evil. That is so evil. — They knew about it from the application process. — Of course they did. — It's not a coincidence. That's why they have that's my personal theory is that they have the girls fill out this these forms with their family history with their the details of their life so that they can use it against them in a photo shoot. — They still chose to have me do this particular photo shoot. — They can turn what they're afraid of and use it into a photo shoot. Like if a girl says she's scared of spiders, oh, we have a spider photo shoot. If she says that her friend passed away and it traumatized her, oh, you're going to be buried in the ground. were doing a buried alive photo shoot. Whatever the case is. — That's so wrong. — Coincidence at the time, but I don't think it was. — Why is she the one who had to be the model who was involved with gun violence? Why? She could have been the one who had her organ stolen or whatever else. No, they wanted her to be posed in this way. — I'm just glad that they didn't get the reaction that I feel like they were hoping to get. — She is 100% right. They wanted a
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reaction from her and she didn't give it to them. They wanted to bring up her family trauma. That's why — I take full responsibility for that shoot. That was a mistake. — I look back now and I think it — what? You're accepting responsibility. Okay, that's a start. — That one I look back on, I'm like, you are an idiot. — Okay, just that one. I have a list of other shoots you can take start taking responsibility for, sir. I'm just me. My bingo card. It was a celebration of like violence. It was crazy. — Why that one though? Just that I mean it was bad. It's good that he's owning up to that. But what about all the others? It's like what specifically about that one? Really? It made him reflect. What about that one in particular? We heard the word mistake. An idiot. That's good enough for me right now. — This race swapping shoot this week. We've learned — I knew it. I knew they're going to bring this up. Is everyone ready for this? because I've been waiting for an explanation for a long time. Not even involved, not even a part of the show. I'm like, I need to hear what this was really about. — So, I first asked to be excused from the photo shoot. — So, Mr. J says that he asked to be excused from the race swapping photo shoot. Tyra says, "Just go and do your job. I'll handle it with the girls. — We are actually going to switch your ethnicity. " — So, then he still continued to. So, he said he wouldn't be part of it. They still ended up doing it anyways. Okay. That shoot was happening regardless. — It could have happened without you. If it was happening regardless, they could have gotten someone else, right? Maybe Tyra could have been involved for that then. I'm just saying it doesn't really it doesn't answer the question of why didn't you like push back on it more? — But I just had to do my job. — But I There was nothing else I could do. So I went ahead and did that whole thing. I think Mr. J didn't want to do this. It seems like he was made to do this. That's what I'm gathering from how he's speaking about it, but I don't truly know. So, Tyra says that she thought the race swapping photo shoot was not going to be controversial. She thought it was going to be beautiful. She was living in her own little bubble, but then she does a square for some was Did she? I don't Let me see that one more time. Hold on. — I was in my own little bubble in my — Yes, she says, "I was in my own little bubble. " And then proceeds to do a square. What were you? A square bubble. Square. I don't know why I thought of Spongebob who lives in a Spongebob. That's so rand. Maybe it's a pineapple. She was in a bubble. square. She was everywhere but the room of accountability. Nine cycles later, they did the same photo shoot again. The race swapping photo shoot, but this time in Hawaii. And this time they gave him two ethnicities, not just one. Looking at the show now through the 2020 lens, it's an issue. — Okay. But why is it that you have to look through the 2020 lens, but only through the lens of the year 2020? Can she see and understand why it might have been not been the best idea. But 2019, it was fine. Totally acceptable. — We have to face it that we are in the fashion industry. But didn't she say that she wants to fight against the fashion industry? — I hate and preach about models not having to be stick skinny. I can't keep track of this. I really can't. Also, hi Kenya. Kenya has appeared and you guys know that I've done an interview with Kenya and we reacted to her episode together and it was awesome. She gave us the inside scoop. So, I'm so happy that she's part of this documentary. Kenya talks about how she got comments on her weight being on the show and then again it's just a coincidence but she gets to do a photo shoot where she's gluttony and they put her in this casket and glut it's like eating too much. It's about her weight. — We did the seven deadly sins and they gave me gluttony. — I remember reacting to this specific photo shoot from America's Next Time Model how inappropriate the photographer was and his inappropriate comments. They really pushed Kenya with the weight narrative. — They had to find something as a part of the narrative — and I talk about that as well. I think sometimes they put narratives on the girls. So one girl is the favorite, one is the villain, one is trying to lose weight, one is gaining too much weight, one is lost, doesn't know herself. So whatever narrative they put you in, they're going to push that the rest of the show. So whether that's in a photo shoot or through the critique that they give you during the photo shoot or during judging, they're going to keep pushing that until you break. — One week is gluttony, next week is an elephant. — Mr. J even says while he's introducing the photo shoot and giving all the girls
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their like each girl gets an animal for the next photo shoot and he says, "Okay, you get to be an ostrich. a giraffe. Kenya, you get to be an elephant. " And then all the girls start laughing because they know what's going on. They know that they're giving her all the like the big animals. — That's when I knew, okay, this is intentional. — When the first photo shoot she had gluttony, the second photo shoot her animal was an elephant. She had to portray an elephant. And then they make comments to her like they say the word piggy and they bring up donut. Tyra brings up, oh, I want to see a donut hanging from your mouth in the photo shoot. They use specific words to push a narrative. I would love to change the rules, but until that happens, I think it's all about choices. — I would love to change the rules. The show was so impactful and popular that they could have literally created their own rules and said, you know, we're not going to follow this the standards of the modeling industry. We're creating our own, but they didn't want to do that. They're they kept perpetuating those the standards like the unrealistic body standards of the fashion industry at that time. Even though, again, Tyra says in episode one that she wanted to fight against the industry. Kenya's entire narrative on her cycle was that she needs to lose weight. Whatever she's eating, if she's eating too much, comments about her body, Tyra saying you can have a burger, but take the bread off, stuff like that. It's was all about eating and her body. — Showing me eating it as if I've eaten three different bagels, but it really was the same one. — That's true. I didn't even notice that. the way that they edit the show to make it seem like something, but it's not the reality. She was eating a bagel and they edited it to make it seem like she's eating three completely separate bagels. Different re they rearranged the order of the clips. That is so shady. — Back then, the fashion industry's beauty standards were so narrow. That's the world that we lived in. — They act like this show had no impact. Like we couldn't do anything. It's just how things were. This was one of the most popular show. 100 million people watched this globally. They had that type of audience. Does that count on my bingo card? We were just following 2000's beauty standards defense. Going to highlight that we got a lot of them so far. That's how the bingo card is looking. — If you don't fit the clothes, you don't work. — That's crazy. Still a crazy thing to for them to say to Kenya. I reacted to those episodes and one of them was with Kenya. Kenya reacted to her episode with me in per we were in person. That stuff kind of stays with you. It feels like the models were affected by the stuff that happened on the show years and years later. It still affects them. So I think what Danielle said was right. It's like to us it was just a show, but it was their life. This was their life. — These discussions, but they were very relevant to the time. — Mr. J is really blaming the 2000s. He's like, "Oh, it wasn't me. It was like it's like Tyra with 2020. That's her thing. It was 2020. And then Mr. Jay is like, "Well, that was back then. " Whitney Thompson from Cycle 10 is introduced. Whitney says when she started filming for the show, she was a size six. She was 5'10" and 115 lbs. She says she thought she looked good, but then she went on TV and she thought, "Maybe not. " — I would go to set and they would have nothing that would fit me. It's not the first time that I hear a model saying, "Oh, they didn't have anything that fit me. " There was to Cara also in one season where there was a challenge and they had literally nothing that fit her, nothing her size. And now Whitney is saying the same thing. So, I just feel like why have these models on your show if you're not going to accommodate them? They were trying to be body diverse, but then they also didn't accommodate for the models on their show and the different sizes. The inclusion was good. They had all types of models from all walks of life, different backgrounds, different orientations, everything. But then it's like they didn't follow through and give them the right clothing sizes and didn't seem like they were included for a lot of these challenges and photo shoots. They would have challenges where the girls who weren't a size zero, the photo shoots, they would have to wear special types of clothing that were different from the other models because they were a bigger size. It was inclusion, but at the same time, they didn't accommodate as much. So, the girls still felt left out. — But there was a model named Takara who was on previously, and she went to set. They didn't have clothes that fit her. — Yeah. Like, what's the excuse for having no sizes for the models that you know are coming for your photo shoot? And I was enraged by that episode with Takara with that stylist. Oh my god, that really made me angry. They could easily have gotten clothes that were my size, but — the choice that they made. — Whitney herself says they could have easily gotten clothes that were my size.
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— They chose her to be on the show, which is great. Again, the different body sizes, the inclusivity was good on the show, but they always fell short. It was always like, "Okay, we have a different body type, but we're not going to get any clothes for her. Okay, put her in whatever. Just put those clothes together and see if they fit her. We don't care. It feels like it's like we don't care. You can come with us, but we don't have anything for you. That sort of thing. So, it's like, should I really come? Do you really want me here? — But the production didn't stop there. — I already know what's coming after this. I know what they're going to talk about. I reacted to that episode of Kenya and that's actually how we got in touch. And that's another moment where I wish production would have stepped in, but they didn't. I really felt that he was just taking advantage of the moment to touch me. — It shows the dancing photo shoot where the girls have to pose with three men and they dance with them. The one of the male models, Bertini, is inappropriately touching Kenya. And I reacted to this episode already. I think it's awful what happened to her and someone from production should have stepped in. — Hear moaning and it just threw me off. — Moaning where? — Like on me. Like I'm sorry. I just didn't feel comfortable. It shows Kenya stopping the photo shoot and saying, "I hear him moaning. " And Mr. J says, "Maning where? " And she's trying to tell them that she's uncomfortable by this. And she doesn't know what else to do but stop the photo shoot cuz she says she thinks that's what Tyra would do. Then Kenya says she didn't get the response she thought she was going to get after trying to stop the photo shoot and bringing this to the production's attention that this guy is literally next to her inappropriately touching her. — We're here in a professional situation. They're like 50 of us sitting here on — She says the looks on their faces were just like how dare you stop our production. — And that fits with the show honestly. It's like keep it moving. Even if you're uncomfortable, we don't want to hear about it — in front of so many people and still not be protected. — We hear all the time from the show, why didn't you speak up? Why didn't you tell us? Now we have a model. We have Kenya who's literally saying she stopped the production of this photo shoot to tell them that she's being inappropriately touched and this guy's moaning while touching her. And then they're like, "We're going with the flow. Don't stop the production. " They dismissed her completely. So, it just goes to show you that even when the models do speak out, they're shut down. — Judging panel, there was a real discussion around what happened. — Weren't you there? He's like, there was a real discussion about what happened. You mean what happened? the situation that you were there for in real time that you didn't that you know exactly what happened. Okay. — The photo that was chosen is a photo of Bertini literally grabbing my legs. — I was going to say they chose a photo where it looks like he's being inappropriate like he's touching her. Why would they choose this photo? They I feel like they were trying to trigger her all over again with that. This is such a weird picture to choose. By the way, him he looks like he's creepily staring at her. Creepily. Creep. Is that a creepily? Kenya tries to speak up not once but twice. Once during the photo shoot while it's happening, gets dismissed, then brings it up during judging. — Has to be a way that you can handle it. You know, you have to be able to be — They showed Nigel. I want to see. Yeah. You should be showing them these uncomfortable moments. Just like they made these models uncomfortable, they should make the judges feel uncomfortable. Yeah. And film it. And film it just like they filmed the models. They didn't give the models any privacy. They didn't care about their feelings. So yeah, film the judges reacting to their problematic uh comments on the show. — Some of those things are kind of the reality of the world. — Nigel looked uncomfortable watching that back. The judges have been way too comfortable in this documentary. giggling, reminiscing. It's too much. — Unfortunately, in the fashion industry, there's always been a lot of issues with, you know, sort of harassment. — It's not the same environment as the fashion industry. This is a reality show where you have 20 cameramen, however many, filming this for reality TV. It should have been stopped. You can't compare it to a photo shoot in the park with uh one photographer, one model, and no one's there to help her or something. You know, it's like not a comparable thing. They use the excuse of the fashion industry so much. — Should be able to stand up for yourself and say, "Hey, this, you know, or figure — she literally did that and you guys dismissed her. — What are we doing? You got Stop. But you do it in a fun way where he knows to back the heck up. I was trying to empower her with the information that — that's on my bingo card. That's Tyrie reframes criticism as empowerment. I was trying to empower her. That's crazy. Crazy to say that you're
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trying to empower Kenya when to have him back up in a fun way after she just she's inappropriately touched and you choose a picture of her being inappropriately touched in the picture. — It should have been stop down. We now all understand the protections that women need. — What do you mean we now understand? I always knew. It didn't take the year 2020 for me to be like, you know what, that shouldn't have happened. Why is it that Tyra it it's taken her so long to realize, oh, that maybe wasn't the best thing, but it was before 2020, so I had no idea. — So, I say to Kenya, "Boo, I'm so sorry. None of us knew. " — It's good that she apologizes, and it seems like she's taking a little tiny bit of accountability for this, but this is the problem with her statement. Tyra says, "So I say to Kenya, boooo, I'm so sorry. " Why couldn't you just say, "Kenya, I'm sorry. " If someone starts off my apology and they started off by saying, "Boo Boo, I'm not going to take it seriously. " She says, "None of us knew. Network executives didn't know. " Okay, let's say that's true. If I that I believe her, which I don't, Mr. J knew, the photographer knew, the 20 people filming her knew, the male models knew, the models, the other models knew. So, you're telling me all those people knew, but not Tyra, the person who created the show, her best friend, Mr. J, who was there, saw it happen, didn't mention anything. And they chose a photo of Bertini holding her legs. You tell me they didn't. No one knew. The person who was picking the photo didn't know. Come on. That's why I don't I just don't believe it. Sorry. I just don't and I don't like how she said boo boo. I'm so sorry. I just don't like the boo boo. — Network executives didn't know. — Don't believe it. Sorry. — Helping change the industry. — So Mr. J says we were helping to change the industry, but then it not even like 10 minutes ago, we watched Tyra say, "Well, that was the industry. That was how it was. " You guys wa Which one is it? Which one do you want it to be? one person the industry that's how it is next person we're trying to change it — I um really struggled over some of the things that happened — like what give us an example I'll wait here while Mr. J tells us what he struggled with Mr. J is trying to make this about him. He's like, I really struggled and what about the models on the show and what they had to go through? Does he know that there were models on the show? This episode ends with Mr. J saying it was time for me to tell Tyra that I wanted to leave the show. Okay, y Okay, here's how the bingo card is looking so far. Let's see if we can finally get a bingo next episode. What did you guys think about episode 2? Please leave your thoughts in the comments and I'll see you guys in episode 3, which will be out soon. Also, if you think America's Next Top Model is bad, I've been reacting to a show called Supermodel Me, and it is so much worse. I mean, I don't even know how that's possible. They recently did a photo shoot where I reacted to where they ambushed the models. They had him in blindfolds. Absolutely crazy. So, I'll have a link in the description if you want to watch my Supermodel Me series. But let me know what you guys think of episode two of this documentary.