How to Increase Penile Size

can you show us how the pumps works also show you how pump I'm me to show you how pumping Works in general show me how welcome back everyone I'm Lucy committed to keeping Leo's research and Memorial life while educating and helping other lives healthier happier life today we have a very special guest Chris the owner of La pump a company that has made significant contribution in the field of sexual health Chris collaborated with Leo and Leo was one of lom's Affiliates many of you I remember Leo's informative video on how to use pumps and methods to enhance penal size these were in part influenced by his association with LA pump and chis as we embark on this discussion I want to emphasize the seriousness of the subject we are addressing today concerned about your penal size and performance are issue that weigh heavily on many men despite studies showing that penal size isn't decreasing the fact remain that many men suffer from ereal dysfunction or other related complexes it's topic that I receive at least one or two message about each week with question directed to Leo on pumping and Sexual Health this is precisely why I invited Chris to join us today while I done my share of research Chris's expertise and experience in this area for sur is mine and is the best person to address these questions before we proceed I think it's crucial to address uh societal misconceptions there's a tendency perhaps influenced by social media and certain TV shows to overemphasize penal size and male performance however I strongly believe that most women and I'm talk about real mat women are not as focused on size as many might think what truly matters in a healthy sexual relationship is care sensuality playfulness openness to explore sexuality without shame and a genuine connection preliminary and emotional intimacy often hold far more significance than physical attributes so let's keep this perspective in mind as we talk to Chris about the Practical aspect of penis pumping and how it fits into a broader context of sexual health and wellness um today we have with us Chris which he is the owner of La pump and the reason why I asked him if I could interview him is because despite everything people have been sending me at least one or two questions per week since Leo released the video on pumping so who better to answer all those questions than Chris right here um I want to mention I'll do any a little bit of an intro um before this video that I'll record separately but Chris has been no joke one of the kindest most ethical partner Leo has worked with and I mean it was incredible when everything happened with Leo he sent me an email always checked I mean you're a very ethical and kind person and I know you had conversation with Leo and he mentioned that to me quite often so that's one thing is like I Leo was very kind uh I mean very keen on working with partners that were ethical and he was contacted by many other companies but he really like he started by promoting your product because he believed in the higher quality of what you offered and then realized how good of a person you were so I'm very happy you agreed to come on today um thank you yeah you're welcome but let's start with a little bit of your journey and about you like tell us more bit about who you are and how did you start a pumping business get into penis pumping and Manufacturing them yeah um you know I didn't uh first thank you for doing this interview um keeping Leo's product pages up all that um he was a great guy and I miss him and um I'm glad we're doing this how I got started on this journey um in all honesty it was a fluke how I got into the sexual Wellness industry uh to begin with I was going to school college um my early 20s I was a DJ before for this believe it or not really DJ signed to a record label and everything I was in a band um we toured the world you know we were on J Leno we um played at the Rose Bowl I mean it was like a full-fledged band thing it was awesome uh but we got dropped from the label you know record sales weren't strong or whatever and that was it so here I am 20 year old you know no money really nothing to do I was like what am I gonna do with myself so I wanted to go back to school and get a business degree I thought I want to do something with business um my real what I always told myself is I wanted to be my own boss I didn't know doing what but I always wanted to run my own business you know I always felt like the freedom of doing that and the um the drive of working hard at your own sales you know making sure your business keeps going that was that seemed fun to me I went to school um figured I needed to get like a little regular job you know uh found this job at a company called the stockroom stock room. com and they're reseller of SE toys uh primar like

bondage toys and leather stuff like that you know so okay when I got interviewed they were like you sure you can handle this kind of work I'm like well it's shipping I was in the shipping department and um it seems fun to me you know I was never I never knew about dildos or anything like that or bondage toys leather equipment anything like that but it seemed fun and I was like look I'm gonna go to school this is gonna be fun so I take the job sure enough you know I'm packing dildos on day one just putting dildos in boxes I'm packing pen pumps um stock room sold La products worked my way up in the company I loved what I did it was a lot of fun it was a small business that had a lot of growth potential to it um worked my way up you know showed them my excuse me showed them my drive my ambition um got up to customer service then I started answering phones you know listening to what people like and what they're into and stuff like that again ambitious you know driven I wanted to keep going up in the company I loved it there it was a lot of fun um the purchasing manager one day was like Hey you know do you have time to help me out you know do some data entry work I was like yeah sure so she comes back with like an inch of paper she's like here do all this you know so I basically became her assistant um and she resigned a few months after that uh the owner of the company Joel Tucker asked me if you know I wanted to give it a shot at being a purchasing manager and I was honored you know and I was like oh my God this is a big deal I mean it's spending millions of dollars on sex toys you know buying negotiating all that it was a big deal to me it wasn't just like I'm just toys it was something important to me so I took it on and um that's where I met Charles um my business partner I'm not just full owner of La pump I have a co-owner um he's older he's in his 80s um doesn't do much but he started this company he designed the cylinder um met him he became like a mentor to me um you know I didn't have I didn't grow up with a dad and one thing I learned growing up you know older men who take you on and want to help you and teach you things I had a lot of uncles that were there for me and things like that and Charles was like that um in my early adult life he became like a mentor a great friend um always gave me great advice we always chatted here and there you know and um two years now I'm at stock room their buyer doing my thing he one day tells me you know Chris I'm tired of doing this I created La pump for fun you know in all honesty I didn't think it would take off and become such a great company he's like but I'm older I I don't really even need to do this financially you know he was saying I don't know what to do you know and jokingly I was like well when you're really done and ready give me a piece of the company I'll come run it for you know and we both laughed we're like haha yeah right sure you know but I put it out there I put the little seat out there just you know who knows right sure enough um a year later he had a real bad Health scare um contacted me asked me if I was serious about that conversation said absolutely not I was joking but if you're serious I mean I'd love to check it out and see what it was so came over to here at La pump looked at the office looked at the books you know we're profitable you know it was it's a small business definitely you know we make our products here in Southern California uh I import the pumps but 90% of everything else on our site we make here ourselves with pride and I really love that about the company um you know again we didn't make a lot of money and he's like it's not a big money maker Chris but you'll be you know you'll be secure you'll be happy you'll have your own business you know you can come and go as you please um and you know we wrote up a contract it was a two-year deal to see if I could handle it this and this was like a Sweat Equity deal right it's been 14 years now and here I am co-owning it and I love every minute of it you I'm not going to lie to you Lucy regarding pumping and doing this you know you said earlier I'm an ethical person and I am I really feel like I am and one of my big questions to him because I didn't pump before I sold them you know I bought them sold them at stock I was in a pumper I tried some products but I really didn't try this one yet and I said Charles I'm gonna ask you know I'm be honest with me and be straight up with me you know like does this stuff really work you know he's like absolutely it does he's like the only real way for you to know is for you to start pumping yourself or you hear feedback from our customers throughout the years as you're here but you're going to hear it and if you do it yourself you're going to know so I took his word for it you know um I did start pumping I've been pumping myself for over a decade it works um with that said yeah and sure enough you know with all the customer testimonials um over the years it works and I wouldn't be able to do this if it didn't sleep at night if I was just robbing men all day you know taking their money no like it's not the type of person I am so yeah many years um now doing this again we've grown quite a bit since I started probably three or four times um it's been significant growth over the years

um hard to manage sometimes we're still in a house um bleeding out of the bedrooms with cylinders everywhere and material everywhere but we we can manage it and again for me um the personal connection you know with the customer really brings a lot of value to my brand and me personally and I love that and I hope I stay small and I can continue to bring that kind of quality service and product I'm not into this to make millions of um I know people say that's the American dream it's something I spoke to Le about actually and I was like you know what it's not for me and that's when he's like I love you Chris you know and I was like it's not about becoming a millionaire it's about you know being financially independent sure but being happy with what you do and going to sleep at night knowing you're doing a good thing you know am I saving the world no am I making the world a better place yeah I think I am for couples for men you know I think I am and that makes me sleep well at night well I can attest to that in multiple ways the first one is that the amount of comments we got on those videos I didn't even realize it was such a big problem until those videos blowed up like I was very surprised like truly and the other thing is it's I want to mention that is the one of conversation we had you and I about the fact that you not working with any person that basically comes to you be like hey I want to promote your product like you're very ethical in the way you work with people and you attest it also in your life and your business like you have hired people in difficulties finding jobs and you can talk about this because I find it absolutely amazing I have a friend she's um her brother has Down syndrome and some business like hir him and I found it like absolutely amazing that you give chances to people that don't have necessarily the chances to get a job uh can you mention a bit more about that Journey yeah um absolutely you know um as a small business I we don't have a lot of Staff obviously um as we grew I needed some people and you know um you try to look for people who are honest and trustworthy and all that and it was hard to find that in all honesty I tried a few people you know Outsiders so to speak and it just didn't work out and I had a family member a cousin of mine um you know he's autistic he's sharp you know high functioning he's got some social issues and things like that and the kid's a go-getter like just you know always looking for work he was always applying everywhere fast food places and just everywhere he could was always applying and he's like I just can't get a job Chris you know nobody wants me I don't know why you know and it just came to me I was like Jesus why doesn't he work here with me and I talked to Charles my business partner I was like I'm going to hire my cousin I think this is a perfect fit it's family um he deserves the opportunity um I think he'll Thrive he's been here eight years with me now and I wouldn't be here without him like I tell him every day he's getting a big bonus for Christmas this year like I take care of him I mean his family one and he's amazing at what he does you know he's so careful and thoughtful and with cylinder sizes like you know he'll see an order with a large diameter and be like Chris I think we need to contact the customer because I don't know if he really wants that diameter you know he's thoughtful and careful and absolutely you know it means a lot to me and the fact that he probably wouldn't have been able to find work outside because people are judgy you know um and it sucks but yeah thank you for mentioning that um yeah I'm happy to do it and again he's not going anywhere I just told him that recently too I was like as long as you want a job you're gonna be here as long as I'm running this thing you're gonna be here I'm gonna be an old man you're gonna be in this office one day talking to people and answering calls and he's like I don't know Chris you know like you know so no he's going to be here with me forever and yeah I mean I'm happy to do that I actually also secondarily hired a friend recently um she was having some problems um finding work and I you know she's like I need to just find something temporary and I was like I can hook you up you know she's like it's only going to be like three months that I need it I don't want to put it a burden on you to find somebody else after I was like it's okay you know do I need you fully not really and that's why I'm here to do you the favor I mean I you know so I hired her for a few months helped her out and you know she's not with us anymore but um I try to help people where I can definitely well I can attest to that and thank you Chris again for everything you've been doing you're really a kindhearted person but let's get into really the details of pumping now pump that's what people wants to hear about so can you tell us a bit more about the physiological changes that occur during after and after pumping both in terms of immediate and also overtime so we get a better idea of how pumping works well

the physiological changes you know you're pulling air out of a cylinder creating negative pressure stretching the tissues um I think the term was angiogenesis that they refer to when it comes to technical things and and chemical things going on down there and body parts in anatomy I'm gonna ask you to refer to L other videos because he was the master and he knew what he was talking about but yeah it's a very simple process you're stretching the tissues you're breaking up fibers over time um the temporary gains are immediate and apparent I mean always right away you see them uh the long-term games they take long yeah I mean that's the bottom line and I think that's been the hardest issue with my Niche and genre in general um guys want this to work fast you know and it do nothing works fast it does it doesn't and you listening and watching this right now you're probably a bodybuilder right because you're coming from this page and and you're into supplements and things like that you work out your body does that is that quick nope you know that's not quick either you know when you're working on your body and muscle fibers and things like that and creating changes with your body it takes a while um it takes dedication it takes effort um genetics plays a role too I think you know physiology you mentioned I think that plays a very large role um mainly with routines and gains some guys stretch a lot faster than others and get faster um permanent gains than others some guys it takes a while to see something uh on a personal note it took me a long time to start seeing permanent results I don't want to get too TMI with you Lucy sorry I'm talking about my penis a little bit right now my tissue's very tight you know I didn't when I first pumped it I didn't see big EMA the big engorgement fluffy uh pumped up penis wasn't like that and gorged for sure and I saw some thickness but it wasn't like you know I see some pictures and videos of some guys really plumped up penis after they pump and I just didn't feel that effect so it took a little while longer for me um so yeah you know there's short-term quick gains that you can see right away H but the long-term ones do take a while I minimum for long for like once you start seeing good permanent gain six to nine months I would say you know persistent did you see a difference or did you try the difference between air pumping and water pumping so I think that's where your opinion defer with uh Leo Le is that he was big on the water pumping part yes but water pumping is extremely messy and not easy to do and I know that's one of the issue most of people have they were like he was explaining it well but they're like how exactly does this work and additionally I know for a fact I lived with him that he was us like he used water pumping but it was easier for him to use regular air pumped so yeah give us the rundown between the differences between those to um the benefits are debatable I mean does it feel better absolutely of course you know you put some warm water in the cylinder it does feel better I don't know the science behind how it works with the tissues I think um La alluded to that in his videos and was talking about what's actually happening with the water hitting the skin and all that I do think there are some benefits there I do I really do um I water pumped for about six months I tried it um felt great I'm not going to lie I don't know if I saw extra gains doing it um I didn't track them really religiously I'm not going to lie either but I didn't see big numbers I would I did put marker on my cylinder because I don't have markers on my cylinder so I'd mark it with literally a Sharpie um I have all these lines on my old cylinders it's hilarious but um I marked it you know so I would see if it was a big jump I'd be able to tell like whoa hello you know from the other line but I didn't see that and yeah for me honestly the cleanup and there was a few accidents you know jump out of bed and the water's everywhere I got to pull out the sheets real quick and um for me it was that and um so it really is a preference the other problem too with my pump you can't get water into it um not the pump the cylinder sure but if you get any water into that pump it breaks it you know it screws up the gauge mechanism and then it voids the warranty and I could tell if you got water in it so don't try to S your turn and be like no um so you know that's the other issue too there are things called water traps uh that you can purchase and you splice the hose and you put it in between and they're good for the most part but I just don't see the huge benefit of it and when you know Leif made the video and he's like yeah do water pumping guys I'm like what are you saying why did you say that but again he knows what he's talking about and if he liked it too it's all good it's just it's debatable um the other issue too though that that it was in the video he made um he told I think he told guys to literally just buy a cylinder a coupler and some hose and to pull the air out with their mouths he's like just pull the air

out like that get you know you'll get a good seal and this and that and does it work sure do you need a pump yes you do he's like you don't need a pump device I think he said it like that he was fleetingly like you don't need a pump you do need a pump uh you need to monitor your pressure that's vital um is it prevents blister if you don't use water okay yeah well yeah yeah well speaking to water and blistering yeah I do believe that too I've heard a lot of testimonials about that um I do believe that does happen I never got blisters to begin with just because I've always kept the pressure levels really low um okay too low to begin with and that's why it took me 10 years to see some really good gains I don't know but I've always been very careful and I never wanted to overdo it with my penis you I mean that's my one penis like I don't want to take them do anything bad to him that's what I tell guys all the time too you know take it easy with that guy down there we love him you know we want to take care of him we want him to grow sure we want to do it right um so but yeah no edema you know blistering little uh burst capillaries red dots on coloration all that stuff comes from over pumping but that's what it comes from over pressurization it comes from too much time in the cylinder you know um and you just don't need to do those things for good enlargement for good gains you don't need to do that guys just feel like they do I'm going to tell you a quick little story a little you know anecdotal story about that and guys thinking they need to pump hard I had I was at a trade show Once years ago and the guy comes to my Boost and I knew him personally he's like hey how you doing CHR I'm like good to see you and he's like hey um you know I bought your product at a store and I tried it out and my penis turned like black and blue bro and I'm like what and he's like yeah it got super bruised and I'm like okay you know and I had the pump out and I was like I asked him I was like show me on the gauge what you went up to right and he points to so the gauge goes all the way to 30 inches he points to 30 we recommend like four to six inches in Mercury he went to 30 okay and this guy's a bodybuilder he was cut he was big you know he's a big cut guy he won gain fast lifts you know he know and I asked him I go why did you get to that number he's like well when I started feeling pain I'm like okay it's working now and I just kept going harder and I'm looking at him I'm like were there instructions in the package he goes yeah and I go did you read him and he's like no I mean you put the cylinder on and you just start pumping what do I need to read and then I smacked him on the head and I go come on brother like what are you doing and then I told him what this he's like are you serious he's like yeah and I said look you're gonna be fine don't use it for a few weeks you know let the bruising go away um and he was I called him a few weeks I was like you good your penis good we good he's like yeah everything's fine I feel like an idiot I was like you should you know read the instructions your dick penis you know what I mean you got to be careful with it so guys get excitement you know it's my point and and some guys think pain equals gains no it's it's a little I like to say you know in bodybuilding they say no pain no gain yeah ining it's pain no gain you know you don't want pain so you know as long as you keep the pressure levels low the timing um good you'll be okay so you mentioned a lot about timing being care f for people that experience ereal dysfunctions what would be the ideal protocol to help them solve this we know that pumping helps but like when can they start seeing results like how often should they do on something in particular can you get into the subject erectile dysfunction is a different Beast um all you know because erectile dysfunction is an actual issue with your penis you can't get an erection you can't get blood flow properly in there so a lot of guys that pump for Ed are really pumping to you use it right you know I mean they're getting it erect because they want to use it with their partner so the protocols are much different for pumping for erectile dysfunction I still recommend the gauge again because you know you don't you might not know your pain tolerance and you can go really hard and it's not recommended or needed to pull the blood into the penis you don't need a lot of pressure that's the thing so for pumping for Ed you really just um so what you do to start you've got a cylinder and you got a rimless cylinder right cuz for you want a rimless cylinder I sell thick walled cylinders this is a thin wall but I sell thick walled um they're called thick walled cylinders and they're primarily for erectile dysfunction so the idea is get your cylinder comes with a three pack of restriction Rings you put one of the Restriction Rings onto the cylinder before you start pumping you put it on right there at the base you do your thing you get to your desired Direction level there is no time there is no pressure level it's about you knowing okay there he is you know seeing his erection level

being like yep that's him right there once you get to the desired erection level you just slip that ring on you stay pressurized in the cylinder some guys when they lose pressure quick with Ed they lose their erection right away so I recom stay pressurized in the cylinder get the ring on then depressurize or take the cylinder off uh depending on the tightness of the restriction ring blood flow will stay or not if it doesn't we're the tighter ring you know that's another thing about Ed and wearing restriction Rings sometimes it's hard to find that right ring that fits but for Ed that's it um you get to that erection level put on the ring do your thing so that's for short term how about longterm because uh I recently listened to the uberman podcast and then mentioned this a little bit for people with Ed and mostly for people that experience uh postp asteroid syndrome which is very common they're having they experiencing more Edy and they're looking to solve the issue long term and in the uberman podcast surprisingly they mentioned pumping helping because you create more blood flow but do you have any feedback or any insights of how long would it take to start seeing results in improving Ed when it comes to pumping and how often they should do it yeah weeks um I've heard from guys weeks after they started their routine they got healthier erection they felt like they were getting stronger ones they still had to use a ring and all that but they felt like the blood flow was better um okay you know a big part of it too is psychological when you think about it um a big part of it and that's another thing about my company and where I take pride in what I do you know when these guys call me I tell them this I'm like you know you're gonna be okay brother but just remember a lot of this is in your head too you know like and this will help and all that sometimes it is medical you know there there's a real medical they had some Pro prostate prostectomy you know they lost so there's a lot of issues why they might have but most of the time it's up here and and some things like that help and um yeah weeks basically to answer your question quickly after a few weeks they'll start seeing improved blood flow and things like that but depending on the severity of the Ed and what's causing it the underlying issue um is really what would determine whether their Ed would be fixed you know or not and how often do you think somebody that has not severe like moderately severe Ed and wants to improve like how often do they have to pump well they're going to time they're goingon to want to have sex right definitely okay when they do want to I tell them to do my routine on my website you know what I mean just regular every other day you know I four times a week something like that the routine on my website is a very Baseline basic routine and this is something I allude to guys on the phone or guys that email me to um everybody's different you're gonna find the routine that works best for you you're gonna find the pressure level G to find the times that work best for you and that's really what's going to maximize your gains okay and is there a difference in routine or products when it comes to trying to improve um girth versus length yes absolutely great question great question absolutely um when it comes to length so guy calls me up or emails me and says I just want to be longer I don't want to be thicker at all absolutely there's a special little protocol and it's fill the cylinder as quick as you can protocol basically so you know the idea let's say yeah can you show us how the pumps works also show you how pump G to show you how pumping Works in general show me how oh oh you mean this oh the tester okay gotta I got you I got we have to stay within the YouTube regulations so pumping simple yeah you just connect um cylinder comes separate from a pump like this you connect the male coupler that's on the pump to the female cylinder you're going to hear an audible click there's the click you know you're on and you just go to town so I have an inflatable dild here that I use for testers for stores and it works really well there got lubricant in it already you want to be well lubed up remember that folks you want to be lubed up if any particular Lube that you recommend is there any type that works better than others or it doesn't matter uh it doesn't um silicone would work best because it's most viscous and you know all that but it's messy um it's hard to clean off I always recommend a water base just because it's easy um it's easy to wash off some water bases are better than others some brands the brand I sell on my site it's just the brand I like um they don't give me any extra discounts or anything like that to just sell that brand it's just one I've always used in like and there's so many out there I'm not going to offer 10 different brands of lube you know a lot of people have their own Lube too so pumping it see the water going up already the pressure get cylinder so what are you on the pressure press pressure amount I'm already past 12 and

I'm just pumping to get this dildo up got it you're never going to pump this hard ever and you're going to grow like but this is exaggerating obviously just to show you what happens there it goes and then you know let's say you're going too hard and you're like oh whoa I went too hard there's a little pressure release valve right here a little pin and you just press it boom and it releases there real quick so that's it right there that's it that's what's going on with your weenus uh okay it's straightforward again but most guys honestly two or three squeezes of this and they get to their desired pressure level you know and the great thing about this pump you know I sell something called the hush pump it's an electric pump and I love it because it's simple to use but the great thing about this Deluxe pump is that you can go real slow you can pull a little bit of air out at a time you know you can be really gentle with it and that's important especially when you're just starting off and you're just learning you know you're just taking your time with it like okay does this feel good nope it's starting to so um but yeah that's what happening and yeah for Ed protocol oh excuse me we're talking about um different protocols for different things for lens versus yeah so for lengths if a guy wanted length protocol he needs to fill the tube so you think about it if you fill the tube quickly tissue only has one way to expand vertically so that's the simplest protocol for length expansion get a small diameter cylinder that you can fill up really quick so the tissues can expand vertically um if you're looking for girth and length you know tradition round or elliptical cylinder I make a unique oval shaped cylinder as well um very unique as you can see it's not traditionally round this is a good cylinder for guys um who are in between sizes sometimes and can't really fit into one properly because they have extra space on the long side of the ellipse I've heard from guys that they get girthier a little quicker using this too I never experienced that so I it's hard for me to recommend that but it makes sense right anatomically we're more shaped like this we we're not round our penises aren't round and it pulls tissue sideways faster than um vertically I see so good cylinder but it's either or for length if you're looking now you know I make a mushroom head cylinder that targets the glands um I make two stage cylinders um that's for penis and ball pumping those items are more pleasure you know fish um they're going to Eng en enlarge you they're going to engorge your testicles scrotum but the gains they're not natural looking you know I'm not going to lie you know you there's something called ballooning where your the tissues of your penis get very puffy and if you do that a lot a lot on those two stages over time it's gonna stay like that so you want to be careful but it feels great um and a lot of guys like to pump like that and at the end of the day what I like to say is to each their own you know what I mean um it's a big modotto I learned from coming from stock room you know they sold bondage goods and stuff like that it's like you know people let people have fun whatever pleases you know the big um model for them was safe San consensual fun and I loved that and it's so right and that's my model for here I mean we make a rose bud cylinder that goes up the butt you know I make very unique stuff um people love it um it brings pleasure to people and that makes me happy that's good I have a questions that came into my mind and I I'm sure you touch on to it but for people are going to see only this video how do you choose your size cylinder size um well you start by getting your erect measurements um you know alluding to Ed I know that's hard to do for some guys so I always tell you to do your best you know what I mean but basically yeah you want to be erect you get a strain wrap it around your penis mark it where it crosses put it down on a ruler there's your circumference um you convert that circumference to diameter you look at my chart and you pick the cylinder size if it corresponds with a good diameter on my chart if you're on the tail end of the recommendation of a number I always recommend going up um you know things like that sometimes customers will reach out but on the cylinder sizing page I know all this stuff guys just don't read that's why we're making videos because people don't read these days for you guys I know and there are like I even saw that some people are not watching the whole videos because I get questions I mean I received the emails the questions not for me particularly obviously yeah but I swear the amount of question them like did you watch it's right there it says right here but no they want to things the information very fast and on my website too you know I have a lot of prog videos and I want to create more actually in all honesty and make more because they're they are very helpful this really this is a big thing about the internet that has been so helpful especially with uh sales of products um and you know you talked about Affiliates and finding ethical people to do business with I've had a few misses I'm not going to lie you know what I mean when I first started this um there's a few people that I probably would not have done affiliate work with

um but at the end of the day I am running a business and I'm trying to generate more revenue and but I'm a lot more picky now because you do this you know what Le did what you're doing here you're representing my brand you know what I mean you're not just making a video to talk about it to not just get clicks you are a representative of La pump too and if I don't find the right ones that's dangerous to my brand and I'm so honored and grateful that uh La reached out to me actually I reached out to him I never told you this story um a customer or a fan of his told me about his video okay and then I saw it and I DMD him and I said dude why are you talking about my pumps and not having an affiliate code and then we spoke on the phone and he's you know told him about my business he's like oh my God he's like now that I know you're a small business and the kind of guy you are I don't want to do an affiliate with you it's like I want you to keep all that money Chris I was like no no no I want you to have some of it too you know we did the affiliate code and ever since then it's been great but it's it is important to align yourself with people that know what they're talking about and you know there's been some people that have badmouth lath in his videos and that he didn't know what he was talking about or that it was outdated or Antiquated you know the always have their opinion on the internet I learned that lesson hard you know there is a lot of information regarding enlargement and new techniques regarding enlargement it doesn't mean the old techniques or the old information is wrong per se you know um so but everybody has an opinion and a lot of them could be right could be wrong with this kind of stuff it's best to try out work what works best for you know personally again I mentioned earlier everybody's gonna have their own special routine and that's what it comes down to for pumping you're G to find out what works best for you what pressure levels work best for you so I know um you touch based on that and by the way a side note um Leo always did that like he only wanted to be affiliate to product he believed in and that's something I keep doing and I want to keep the same ethics because I don't see it any other way anyway um but I want to mention about did you try pumping while using Calis or Viagra by any chance and do you have any customers or feedback on how to do that and if it worked better for some other the customers because it would make sense that it does but yeah I get your insights I have not gonna lie to you I tried it for that for the first time this past weekend oh wow I got some generic Viagra uh in the mail not for Ed issues um we're talking about pumping we're talking about stuff like this I'm gonna be open and honest I have some premature ejaculation issues um and you know it was an issue for me my girlfriend she didn't seem to have a problem with it but for me it's like I wanted to spend more time in the bedroom with her like you know and I talked to my doctor and my urologist about it and he said jic Viagra could help with that um I don't have Ed it gets pretty hard again sorry to get too TMI with you but it gets pretty hard I don't have an issue there but again you know it was it's very sensitive and um this Friday we're hanging out and you know I took some pills I told her I took them and I sometimes I pump with her in the bedroom with me sometimes I don't and I did this time so I don't know how it works cuz I just did it once for the first time this last weekend um I have heard customers that use them in conjunction with it and I've heard they get better gains you know because they are getting larger um they are getting erect as they can you know with a drug but they are getting erect that full erection and that pumping just increases that by you know percentage so not too many testimonials or with its efficacy but I have heard that it's done frequently with guys that do take that medicine okay but I don't know I can't give you any personal um anecdotes yet I'm not sure coincidentally I just tried it I was like wow how did she know oh and you think about the science of it is like it actually increased blood flow in the area which would make sense because pumping do it as well so it should help I think getting faster results but again I cannot test it or try it so I will rely on comments and uh what was the Forum Thunder thunderstorm Forum Thunder place here we go by the way I'm on my day four of water fasting so my brain is like very foggy I do like a f day water fast every quarter and yeah I'm usually very I have a lot of brain fog by day four but I've been trying new things so I've been using this neuros seam which helps like um simulate and regulate my nervous system and my do great right yeah it I have almost no brain [ __ ] I have some of it that's why I'm like I'm being confused left and right but it's much less than I used to experience so just a sight note that's why I'm out on our video right

now don't freak out I'll keep the video going if she passes out on us okay I never no I never pass out I take all my supplements like magnesium zinc and like I have to take some Sal to keep my electrolytes but I always do it it's like a reset for your body and you have so much like more mental Clarity the what I think I'm gonna start with three days I've been wanting to do a water fast you should start with three days and then see how you do but keep in mind past three days we stopped producing grilling so you don't feel H hungry after that um and so past the five day I did it 13 days once and after five days it's just easy but it's just hard socially but mentally and physically after five days it's just it's easy that is great very cool but you really feel the benefits anyway we're not GNA talk about fasting right now uh but that's why my words and I'm a little bit like weird good you're good girl you're doing great thank you um but I want to talk about the safety um because do you have any tips in terms of how to pump safely and maybe mention of who shouldn't be pumping if anybody like with certain condition um just like Al some caution that people should have because we have also an audience that's often a bit young and they I mean I see the comment they're like I'm 17 I'm trying to do this this I'm like please guys just uh and they will like try to go hard I think you touched some base a little bit on it to try to go slowly and it takes time to see results but is there anything else that you think should be mention or people should know about um I don't think anything anybody I think what's the age for when men stop growing per se I think it's 2021 yeah I think anybody under that should be pumping and all because your body's still growing as a man different ways so I wouldn't mess with that in any way um other than that people that shouldn't pump um I read something about blood thinners and pumping recently and I'm trying yeah I'm trying to recall what it was but you know usually when guys ask me these kinds of questions I refer them to you their urologist because I'm like I'm not a doctor you know I don't know for sure um but the big thing honestly Lucy the big thing is keep the pressure levels low you know start off real slow and low like take your time with this like over pumping over pressurization long times isn't going to give you better gains it's just going to lead to side effects which is going to take longer because you're not going to be able to pump for a few weeks you know you do get blistering you do get uh burst capillaries you do get bruising uh you do get large amounts of Edema you're gonna have to stop for a few days if not few weeks so it's just going to add time but if you take your time with it you can avoid all those things I never had any side effects every once in a while I'd go hard I'd go to like six or seven you know um on the pump gauge once in a while like once a week for like 10 seconds and really hard just to you know try to maximize it as best as I could and you know it worried me because again I felt pain and I'm like ow I don't want to feel pain down there so you know I really can't say people that shouldn't use it if you have concerns about it talk to your doctor you know at the end of the day or go to these forums um Thunders place was another you know great one you mentioned uh Treasure Trove of P enlargement information on there for decades guys have been in there for a long time lot of different um op but as long as you're safe and careful and take your time with it you'll be okay is over pressurizing the biggest mistake you see people doing with a pump okay yeah number one I mean when it comes to pumping in um incorrectly the biggest mistake I see is they can't get a good seal you know ever um they have it on their you know the base right there and they can't find that se seal you know that's a bit that's a hard thing to do sometimes I always recommend putting a little bit of lubricant on the rim of the cylinder um if you're really hairy shave if you don't mind you know things like that but technical uh biggest mistake yeah over pressurization or too much time in the tube you know some guys like yeah you know I did a session for two hours last night you know like no now with a two- Stager you know if you put your pean balls and you're filling that up with water fine you know some guys do wear those for an hour or too and that's very low grade you know expansion and for that kind of purpose it's okay but for our purposes and what we're talking about you don't need to do that okay what's the average time average 20 that you need to do 20 minutes yeah but don't start with that you know start with five then go to 10 you know then go to 15 work your way up there I always mention that when you're first starting start with five or 10 you know see how it feels it's hard I mean when you get excited about something you want to set yourself with high level I just ordered my um I just got my sadu board which is like a nail board that you stepped on and I

used to do it before and I was like I put a timer for like 15 minutes then I step on it and I'm like I'm not going to last 15 minutes I lasted five I was like my brain I can't even meditate control the pain and step down I know you're walking on nails you're drinking water for five days yes what's next oh there are a lot I have to rewire my whole brain and my nervous system to calm down I have like years of stuff that I accumulated I'm trying to fix and I know you affected my health I'm the only parent to my daughter so I want to be the healthiest human being I can ever be as long as so now I'm like I'm science based doing everything I can but I'm optimizing it in terms of how like because I don't have a lot of time either so I have to be like doing everything optimally as much as I can so I take like an hour in the morning I wake up at 6: to 7 until she wakes up and then at night before I go to bed I do an hour of like different things also just to on top of you know eating and cooking and a lot of things great Mama thank you so much but I don't have to pump so that's not a problem time of that yeah it's time consuming you know that's the other thing too you know you dedicated to it absolutely um me now you know doing it for a decade I do it at this point um I don't even want to say main you know for like to maintain it so to speak um I just like to do it now you know it it feels good um I you know again I don't have Ed issues personally but I'm 43 I worry about it you know um I'm having regular sex now which is great shoting earlier so I don't have you shoot but um you know if you don't lose it you lose it which is absolutely factual um and that's something you know I'd like to talk about as well you know I have a lot of older guys who call and say I lost length you know these last 20 years I'm a widower or you know I haven't had sex for 20 years and um they lose length because a lot of times too you know and I can attest to this personally um when you're depressed and you're suffering through depression and things like that you're not getting natural erections right like we get natural erections as meant throughout the day yeah and when you're going through like that you're not oh stress will kill it really will and in 2020 I had a very stressful year uh separate from covid um I got divorced that year you know and I became a single father I took full custody of the kids I have two autistic children um so it's it hasn't been easy and it wasn't easy that whole transition and that whole year um I didn't pump obviously right and I didn't get it up I didn't have sex it was you know it was bad uh some 2021 you know mid 2021 settled into my new place the kids are everything's going better um things are semi back to normal you know I'm in bed by myself one night and I'm feeling good about myself I'm like hey I'm gonna pump you know like and I take out my cylinder remember I told you I put line markers on my cylinder it went down I lost about three qus of an inch in a year and I was like holy [ __ ] you know and I started pumping again it came right back which is great um and I think it was just a matter of getting back to that number I was at um but every time an older man would tell me that you know I'd be like yeah I'm sure I believe you know and this and that but I just never experienced it and when I did personally I was like oh [ __ ] like this is this happens so now I'll pump maybe once or twice a week just to get that good blood flow going but again I'm having regular sex I'm getting regular erections you know I don't but um it's yeah I just enjoyed to do it now um just again because it feels good one um and I don't want to lose anything so to speak I don't think I will it's like riding a bike you know you do something and it just it stays like that and you know when you stretch tissues um they're stretched they are what they are um so you know it's interesting why we lose that but it was it was very eye opening to experience it personally you know to see it happen in one year um I imagine yeah so I have a question that I think people might be interesting in knowing because it it's about the psychology of pumping you mentioned that you pump sometimes with your girlfriend how do you approach a conversation with a woman of like hey I'm going to pump like I guess a lot of men probably feel awkward I saw in different conversation how big men thinks their length and girth is to women which I think they have a big misperceptions of how we view it or at least I'm talking about myself and my group of friends we actually opened the conversation recently I'm like do you really care about this and none of them did so from

my small sample they didn't but men feel a lot of pressure regarding their size their performance Etc and I can only imagine that it must be hard for any men to come to their girlfriend and be like hey by the way I pump I would like to pump before how do you approach this conversation what was your I mean you did it with your girlfriend right so well for me it's easy I call company yeah true so she knew what I did right away but I mean I get what you're saying and again you know being in the sexual Wellness industry um I had a lot of toys to test as a buyer and it was I don't know it was like we're adults you know and most people know about sex toys to begin with most women have a little clitter a little bullet or a little egg in their little night cabinet you know what I mean so most women know about vibrator toys before men do um it's tough I'm not gonna lie for me no shininess about it whatsoever I'm at a dinner table people are like so what do you do for a living Chris I make PE like I like I'm not shy about it at all but um I could understand the hesitancy of a guy especially if he's doing it because he feels inferior you know what I mean if he's doing it for Ed it's not an a thing about he feels too small or something like that and he should tell his wife most of the time these guys that call me or email me that have Ed their partner knows and I always commend them for that and I'm like dude have her do it for you that's awesome you know what I mean like buy her a clitter cylinder when you're done with this you know give this a sh pump together you know um I think it's about your comfortability with your partner yeah at the end of the day I see on some of these forums guys say that they go pump in the bathroom 10 minutes before they go have sex they're hiding it from their partner and I feel bad for those guys because you shouldn't have to you know you should be comfortable with your partner enough that you can be open about your sexual needs or things that you that are happening with you down there I was so comfortable with my partner I told her that I go Mom I love you and I want to have more fun with you in bed and this is happening and she's like you're so sweet you know I'm having a great time but I understand your concern you know whatever I can do to help is what she said you know which is great and that's what it's about being um open and communicative about that you know I think it could be a great test for testing your relationship actually telling your partner and if she has a bad reaction or weird reaction or open to it she's probably not for you honestly women don't really care about size yeah I'm not a big guy I'm not gonna lie I got about an inch and a half more in length over this decade okay I'm about six and a half inches erect so you can imagine what I was before that I've never been a large man I'm pretty gersy which I'm happy about but I've never been a big well endowed man when I started pumping here it wasn't to become a big well endowed I'm six and a half I'm still not big roll down it's above average for sure but um I know and I believe women don't care about that if I met a girl who looked at it and went like oh honey sorry I can't deal with that she's not for me then right it's a simple as that well girl you need a big boy and nice to meet you exactly it be that simple to me but sadly a lot of guys take it personally and you shouldn't um and you should be happy with your body as much as you can be and if you do want to you know do things to it cool right at the end of the day but I'll give you an example yesterday a guy called me and he wanted a 15inch custom length cylinder I make them right and I was like I'm happy to make it for you brother uh let me ask because he's like how long will it take and I'm like right now Christmas New Year's coming up it's gonna take me like two or three weeks I'm not gonna lie to you and he's like oh man he's like I was looking to grow pretty quick and I was like well let me first tell you you're not going to grow to 15 in two or three weeks to begin with and I even I was like wait a minute do you think you're going to get to 15 inches if you get a 15-inch cylinder and he said yeah and I said okay well I'm going to be honest with you and be real with you right now you know never like no that's not gonna happen um and then I said I go you know what are you erect right now if you mind my asking eight and a half exactly I just wanted got dist dropped just like what in three weeks I'm gon to double my size eight and a half this guy was already and I go brother like you are well endowed okay now with that said if you don't feel comfortable with your body I get it okay if you want to grow some length cool I get it and I'm help I'm happy to help you with that you'll never get to 15 though okay I'll tell you that right now you might get to 10 you know but you won't get to 15 and I go why do you want to do this and it goes to be honest with you I started dating this woman and she told me she needed bigger they're not worth it let me repeat it for people in the back everybody can

listen they're not the right partner if that the case please it turned into like a little therapy session with the guy because he was like we started talking he's like hey Chris this is really cool that you're talking to me like this brother and I was like because I want to be honest with you and I just want to sell you something you don't need me I go you don't need my products you're good like what I want you to do when we hang up is I want you to think about these things more brother and I want you to find a lady that's happy with eight and a half that's a big ass D that's what I told him and he started cracking up and he's like thank you man thank you I was like you're good dude don't call me back I was like don't you know you're good so it's like he call you for a 15 in cylinder ready it but no I don't want to if you don't need it you know and at the end of the day I tell these guys that I'm not trying to sell you something if you don't need it I want you to be happy because I sleep well at night yeah that's why I love a to you know the ethics of a business and that's what everybody can look up to G away a lot with big corporations too people are surprised at my customer service I have my cell number on my signature and dudes at 900m are like hey does this fit right you know if it's a dick I'm not gonna respond and I'll respond the next morning and say we open at 9:30 but if it's a quick question I'll respond to them right I you know I'll give a quick answer oh my God you should you probably receive some crazy things say so I had a bit a little bit of a question I don't know if you're aware of this so is there like pennies pumping compared to any other penal enhancement techniques and things like how does it compare to it and is Effectiveness and also safety uh I think it Compares strongly uh there's a lot of devices not a lot but there's a few devices out there a lot of devices there's a few devices is out there um some are American made which is great which I love and they're very unique I'm not going to say brand names here but um hanging right traction type devices um they they work there's published data that shows they work I've seen and heard on the forums of their efficacy and they work in conjunction with pumping they work yeah Leo mentioned that yeah I'm all for them in all honesty and you know um try to stick to brands that are made with quality again us made primarily because one you're going to get that customer support you know um two you're going to know it's made with pride you know and it's made well um and those are big values especially again with my Niche and what we do yeah because you want the product to last long for their customers you don't want it to break it down they're like you know they want it to work for our customers you know they're buying it for very specific reason a very personal reason and it's important that it works for them and yeah some of these traction devices absolutely work um the hanging devices work I tried them personally when I was at stock room as the buyer right I tried all sorts of stuff I hated it oh my God it was so painful for me personally you know again especially the traction ones I mean you're stretching this thing and then you're holding them stretched like that for a while you know like for a good while um so it's um it's painful and I couldn't take it and again for me in my journey and I was testing them just to sell them frankly and I was like oh I can't sell this you know this is going to be painful I didn't think about the long-term efficacy of it or whatever but they do work um absolutely factual there's a hanging device made in the USA um that the owner has his full log of increases throughout the years so he shows it right there like this is what I got with you know hanging weights on my dick and I know it sounds funny weird but it works you know what I mean ex yeah exactly um it works it's just again for those types of devices too you want to be careful you know any of these types of devices you want to be careful but no in conjunction with or on their own they're absolutely successful for penis enlargement okay now I want to go over some of the questions I received because I received a little bit of them um what are the most common misconception people have about penis pumps the biggest one is that it doesn't work that it's fake it's a scam that it's temporary only that is the probably the main one Lucy okay that's it and anytime a guy emails me or calls I give them this whole Spiel and then I tell them my biography of what I did you know and I explain to them I tell them my little story about how I wouldn't be able to do this if it didn't you know what I mean things like that and at the end I don't have a big log not a I'm not trying to create a pun a log of data to show my growth over the years

it's just my personal you know word and um the success stories from my customers but that's the biggest one every once in a while I'll get a real it be like this shit's fake right like you know he'll be rude about it and it's like why are you calling me and asking me it's like those men's that they like they have such a high ego they want the information but they don't know how to approach it so they go through the rout of like let me try to get the information while being rude and mean it's just and the really hard asses about it what I tell them I go you know what don't buy from me go to Amazon buy a cheap 20 $30 one see how it feels see that you're going to grow in it and then when it breaks in you on you in two weeks come back and get mine you know I always tell them that I go try a really cheap one and then when it doesn't work after a few weeks come and get the Rolls-Royce you know because mine will work but um that's the biggest misconception that it doesn't work it does work guys you just got to put in the work you got to take in the you got to do the work put in the effort that's it so one of the most question is like really how long does it take to start seeing result with let's say pumping we said like four times a week for like 10 to 20 minutes I mean you start lower with five we said five and then increase it but if somebody consistently P pump four times a week when can they start seeing some results again everyone's different right and I'll always say that everyone's different but a few months minimum four to six months you know don't pump for a week and then measure it again and you'll see oh [ __ ] good stayed you know what I mean like that but everybody's different I'll tell you this Lucy I've been here what 13 14 now thousands of orders over the years right two guys that told me this doesn't work and I went we went over different routines time frames different pump I sent them different cylinder sizes we really tried to make it work cuz the last thing I wanted to hear was that from anyone right two guys over the years I refunded them their money after like a year they were even shocked they're like you're giving me my money back I'm like dude we tried everything like I don't know what to tell you I know this works and it just didn't for you know and sometimes it doesn't you know but um yeah few months you should start seeing some permanent gains okay and can ping have an impact on sexual stamina or pleasure beyond the effect of on erectile function sorry yeah you're you're increasing blood flow so it's heightening sensitivity absolutely um pumping at pre pumping prior to sex is a lot of fun and I recommend you try it definitely heightens sensitivity yeah and do you have any recommended age to so we mentioned not until you finish growing but like any recommended age to start pumping after that just after that you know like I said 2021 let your body do its thing but after that it's all age ranges you know surprisingly too A lot of people think it's only older guys that find my stuff no I see very wide range of Ages absolutely um you I'm 43 I pump you 20 year olds who you know have some body dysmorphia issue they pump you know so um age range is all over there older guys in their 80s you know who just got a girlfriend after you know a decade or two they want to start you know get their penis back working so yeah all age ranges okay and is there anything you want to add because I think we talked about quite a bit um and I think we answered a lot of questions I mean I hope that we answer a lot of questions yeah one hour one minute and 59 seconds no I think we've been I think this has been a great interview I'm not gonna lie to you I was very nervous about it I always get nervous about doing these things um I'm also gonna be honest with you this is probably the last one I'm ever going to do on YouTube for other brands or or influencers so you're GNA get the last one your viewers are going to get the last interview because I can't do these all the time for a bunch of different people and I'm honored that it's going to be you frankly thank you so much I really appreciate it um did for your community what he's done for my community um he's a great man I miss him and I'm sorry when know how things turned out um I know and he really cared about you and I know when you know he moved um he immediately told me to send you know his payouts to you and your daughter and when he told me that I was like man you're a good [ __ ] man in my heart and I'm here for you um you know as long as you need me to be I'm here for you anything than you so much Chris if you ever need to test products personally send you some stuff I'm far away from this time but yeah is I really don't have anything more that thank you for watching um thank you Lucy for giving me the opportunity uh if you viewers have any questions you know go to my website site email me directly uh don't bother Lucy with this stuff she no I will put so on the description

below I will put the list of uh the product Chris recommend to start pumping and the link to it so you can see it um there is still the promo code so you can get a discount with Leo's promo code and like Chris mentioned he has his phone number so you Emil me you're gonna have myself if you have a question you can always message him on his website I had many people mentioning that they were talking to you and how thanksful they were for the advice and thank you for the demo because I know that's one of the thing people were like I understand your words I cannot see how exactly this works so at least now you have the visual and if you want any scientific um approach and more details I will link the two videos previous videos of Leo on the description as well absolutely thank you Chris thank you so much for your time have a wonderful day talk to you soon thank you bye