The Second Act Advantage: Monetize Your Wisdom, Master Longevity, and Build... by Jay Samit

You wanted the best. You've got the BEST PODCAST. THE HOTTEST podcast in the world. The Chris Voss Show. The preeminent podcast with guests so smart you may experience serious brain bleed. The CEOs, authors, thought leaders, visionaries, and motivators. Get ready. Strap yourself in. Keep your hands, arms, and legs inside the vehicle at all times cuz you're about to go on a monster education roller coaster with your brain. Now, here's your host, Chris Voss. I'm Voss here from the Chris Show. com. — Ladies and gentlemen, when I sings that makes official wow, that woke me up once I got the shot of the Iron Lady there. When she sings it, the Chris Show is live. Family and friends, we love you. Thanks for joining us as well. Go to goodreads. com/chrisvos. LinkedIn. com/chrisvos. Chris Voss one on the tik tockety. And yes, I blinked on doing some sort of improv on the ramble. So because of that, we just have an amazing author on the show. He's joining us again. My good friend Jay Samut is on the show with us today. His new book. — Thanks for having me, Chris. — Thanks for coming, Jay. His new book is out May 5th, 2026. And it is entitled The Second Act: Advantage: Monetize Your Wisdom, Master Longevity, and Build a Unforgettable Legacy. And we're going to talk about some AI stuff, how to get the keyword in there. As I mentioned, Jay Samut joins us in there, and people are like, I'm going to listen now. But Jay's really smart, so you should listen to his book and all that good stuff. We had him on for his book called Futureproofing You. So check that out as well. Jay, welcome to the show. How you doing these days? — Thanks for having me back. I'm doing fantastic, but I'm worried about what's going on. — Is there something going on in the world? It seems so peaceful and there's no wars or danger. What's up with that? — I'll focus on what's not making the headlines, which is when I wrote Disrupt You 10 years ago when I think we first met or whatever said in a decade half of all jobs will disappear. I was a lunatic. When I spoke at Davos, I was going to say a third of all jobs will disappear in the next three years. But the speaker ahead of me was the head of the International Monetary Fund, the people that have the data. And they said 30% will disappear in the next two years. — 30%. — When we see robotics working in factories, we go that doesn't affect us. But if you have any job that involves sitting and looking at a computer screen, the computer doesn't need you anymore. AI is a smarter employee. — Now, you won't lose your job immediately to AI. You'll lose it to people that are using AI better than you. — So, — the second act advantage is everybody has a second act. You'll be disrupted whether you want to or not. So, it could be retirement. It could be that you came in two 100ths of a second late at the Olympics. You've been doing something since you're 8 years old and now you got to find something else. or your 5 years in the NFL or your 20 years as a cop, but we're not preparing people to create that side hustle, to have that other job or to create a nonprofit legacy, make an impact. And AI now is that equalizer that allows you to build businesses without capital, without employees, and they're creating billionaires. And if you're not learning how, you're going to be left behind. Yeah, if it's all about, you know, understanding how to work it basically as a skill or a work skill task, I guess. — Yeah. So, it goes across any areas, but most importantly, many people are intimidated. It sounds scary. It I'm not a computer coder. D I've been in tech my whole career. I've yet to write a line of code. You know, I've built billion-dollar companies and I've run multinationals. But here, — Second Act Advantage actually comes with an AI companion free. — Oh, wow. — Trained on all my books, all my Wall Street Journal columns, all my Wired columns, all my Fortune columns, all my speeches. So that whatever you want to accomplish in your second act, you now have a mentor next to you privately can ask anything. All the data stays with you. I'm not doing this to monetize. I'm doing this because I kind of like a society that functions. And if 30% of the people lose their jobs, let me tell you what happens. They lose their identity. — They lose their social network. They lose their income. And we have a very unstable world. And yet, we're making a new self-made billionaire every 22 hours. I won't put you on the spot, Chris, but I don't know what you did yesterday, but if you made a billion, I think you would have canceled today's

show. — Just have — But the youngest self-made billionaire this year was 19. — 19? What the hell is going on? — When I was 19, I was trying to figure out how to pay off my used car, right? What is it that they know? What do they have access to? And it's not rocket science. It's real straightforward. You need a salesunnel, it makes it. You need a website, information, it makes it. I'll give you just a simple example. I wrote this book to both show people how to use tools and how to live life. I also have a chapter on how to add 28 years to your life with the least amount of effort. Like I'm the lazy guy. I'm not at the gym. I like pizza. I like pasta. What are the least amount of things? And half of the nine things that have to do, you can do while you're asleep. But I digress. Finished the book. I wanted to be the tool to help people at this inflection point. So I went to the big AIS and I used to be chairman of one of the AI companies and I said, "What is this book missing? " A great use of AI, a second set of eyes. And all the AIs came up with a bunch of stuff, most of which I didn't have in the book because I didn't want it, but it had one category that I overlooked. So imagine having a partner that can doublech checkck you, that can help you, that can find stuff, that can work 24/7, and doesn't want any equity or any cash. Why wouldn't you want that partner? — Yeah. And so the future, so AIA, you really believe, is going to eat up to 30% of jobs? Is that a good way to put it? — Let's take a simple thing, — okay? — Everybody's favorite person out there, the lawyer. What does a lawyer do? A lawyer cut and paste for the most part existing contracts. — AI has seen every contract can do a really good job. Okay. What when we launched and created LinkedIn, the first people that used it were head hunters going, "God, this is the greatest tool. This makes my job so easy. " Until one day everybody realized, "Hey, I don't need that head hunter. " The next thing that you're going to see, and this will seem freaky to most people, is you're going to see, and you've heard Elon Musk and everyone talk about humanoid robots putting AI in a human form. Why the human form? Because every job out there was designed for a human to work in that space. So, the number one job on tax returns is truck driver. So, self-driving trucks, that's one thing, but a robot driving an existing truck, you don't have to buy a new fleet. a $30,000 robot you'll be able to rent or lease for $300 a month. Let that sink in. — Works 24/7. So, even if you're doing landscaping or moving heavy things on a construction site or you want somebody to take care of your your grandmother who's alone and you can't afford 24/7 care, you're going to see this on a massive scale. So, why not benefit from this moment? — Yeah. I mean this is would you call this a lites moment in history where you know — that you nailed it Chris one of the things that I realized is we're at the tail end of the baby boomers this year next year and the year after. I just turned 65. I've been on the internet since 78. So I'm not the lite. I'm the lunatic that was always doing this stuff. Okay. But this is the last non-native digital generation that will ever be on Earth. So, I'm here to say you don't need that engineering degree. By the way, Microsoft's laying off thousands of engineers. Facebook's laying off thousands. You know, everybody was told to get STEM and learned engineering. AI does that better than any engineer. The next generation of AI isn't being written by humans. It's being written by AI. So, you don't need any of that. — Give you another one. I've worked all over the globe. I've run multinational companies and I only speak two languages, English and sarcasm. — T-Mobile just announced that you can talk to anybody anywhere in the world in live real time, no app, and they'll hear you in any of 50 languages. So I can call China, they hear Jay speaking Chinese, I hear them speaking English — or Ethiopian or Japanese. I'm doing press interviews around the world speaking Japanese and Polish and Lithuanian. It blows my mind. — So, where can you expand your market? Who can you reach? — The other side of it, teaching grandmas how to use Tik Tok. There are grandmas that are have cooking shows that are making seven figures a year. — What? — There are people eating food making seven figures. There's a Pomeranian dog that became a millionaire. So, if a young dog can learn it, old dogs can learn it. — And I'm an old dog. in the office place today, they're pushing out anybody above 40 because they're too expensive. — Yeah. — So, you may think your business is safe, your sector's safe, your company's safe. It isn't. So, you better learn the

skills to have a way to stay employed. — Yeah, it's definitely a lite moment. And those of you who aren't familiar with the lites, basically the lites were what? a group of people and they refused to adhere to, you know, new technology. — Yeah. So, in the first industrial revolution, machines that used to employ a lot of kids and everybody to make cloth out of all the cotton that they were bringing in, they figured out the old steam engine and suddenly you didn't need all those people and they burned down the factories. Okay, let me tell you about factories. Today, I sat on a board with somebody from Foxcon. Foxcon makes your iPhones, your PlayStations, all those electronics. We used to complain all those factory jobs went overseas. Foxcon has nine lights out factories. You ask what's a lights out factory? A factory where the lights are out because there's no humans. There's a McDonald's by me that has no humans. There are Starbucks with no humans. — Taco Bell. — Okay. So unless you can find a quick way to beat the other people that are lites, you're going to be roadkill. Be real kill. You're either lit or roadkill. That should have been the title of your book, Sam. — I don't want to scare people. I I really believe I cannot help everybody, but I do believe with the Second Act Advantage and the the free app that comes with it, I can help those who want to help themselves. Last time I was on the show, if you remember, I took a homeless immigrant and mentored him one day a week for a year. He gave him no cash, no business contacts. And spoiler alert, if you're in the middle of reading future briefing you, he went from homeless to self-made millionaire in under a year. — Wow. — The tools are out there. We're connected. It we've just been taught not to do these things. We were taught to be employees. listen to the boss. How's that working out for most people? — Not well. You know, you you mentioned a great point about people over 40. I've so many of my friends and a lot of them in the coding business in Silicon Valley even before this AI, you know, even several years ago before this AI really was taking off, you know, they were starting to see a lot of what's that discrimination for older people on the job. — So, the good news is on the internet, no one knows you're gray. OKAY? — SAME WITH PODCAST, TOO. But here's why I call it the second act advantage. And this is really key. I started my first company as 20. I was an idiot. I got lucky. Okay. — Yeah. You and me. — Over the years, I've done this again and again. I took over a little thing 18 months later. Sold to News Corp for $200 million. Again, I didn't want to be a billionaire. I watched dozens of my friends become billionaires and household names. You know, all the people I've worked with. Um, — but I also realized there's a lot of miserable billionaires. I didn't want more money for the sake of of dick measuring. What I wanted is to make the world a better place. So, I realized I could pay it forward and teach people this. I've taught at the university. My books are in a dozen languages. But here's the second act advantage. You're not starting like a 20-year-old. You have a network of people that you've worked with for years and decades. You've learned the skills of overcoming problems, of being tenacious, of solving things, of cooperation, creativity, collaboration, all the skills that you need in this world. And what you can identify is the gaps in the market. And now you don't have to raise capital. hire a bunch of people. an assistant. You want graphics, AI does it instantly. You want a video, Belly is a tool I could do a whole show on that Google just came out with it. It's the only company that can ever come out with this free tool. It takes all the data of what they know at this moment people are clicking on. Figures out by looking at your website who your market is. — You want left-handed people that speak French and English and drive a foreign car. Boom. They click on a button in the upper leftand corner. If it's yellow, whatever it is, I'm simplifying it. But they instantly make all your ads, all your social media for free. Why? Because they know they control the ad market. If they give more businesses advertising, they benefit. But if your ad dollar can now be a hundred times more efficient because they have the research and they're peeling back the kimona to let you have it, why wouldn't you? — Yeah. Wow. — I'll give you a great one to put you on the spot because this is the kind of person I am. — You knew I was going to be on the show today. You know the target I'm going for. — Uhhuh. What keywords did you buy today to promote today's show that you found nobody else was buying? So for $10, you could bring in another hundred,000 listeners to this episode. — Ah, — so for the price of a cappuccino, you can grow to a million

people listening. — This is what people are doing with AI. They're doing letting AI do the outreach, AI do the marketing, and it doesn't matter what it is. I sell nothing on my website. I asked AI how to grow, what to do and unbelievable, you know, got me now doing Substacks because that appeals to the people that need help. And that's who I'm trying to reach. I'm not trying to monetize, but I still need to reach millions of people. — Yeah. I mean, this is the age. I'm telling all my young folks that are in our gaming community, I'm like, "Hey, you need to be dealing with AI and AI problems and mastering this stuff. " the I mean there's so many different ways you could do it. Some of my friends who used to work for one of my friends Amazon and help you know book startups and you know get people involved in the what was the Amazon cloud service the and they've done lots of Silicon Valley builds and different investor startups. They're doing they're coders and they're using AI to code for them instead. — Yeah. And they're like, — "Coding's like learning how to do a wind sock before we had the graphic interface to be on the internet. You had to have a whole bunch of engineering just to get from point A to point B and send a piece of text. — We don't think of that. — Painters up until the past hundred years had to mix and grind stones to make their paint, — right? I think their time was better spent with the canvas. " Okay. — Yeah, it's true. So take all the drudgery out of business or let's say money isn't an issue. We all see problems we want to solve. In all my books, I interview these people that make me feel like I've wasted every day on this planet because people with nothing have achieved so much. And I and I shine a light on the stories. Let me tell you one that just comes to mind. A guy's retired civil engineer. He's getting his oil change. He's sitting at Jiffy Lube. It's a bunch of old greasy magazines. It's an old National Geographics. and he sees these guys going across a flooded river hanging on a rope. Okay? Because I could build like an Indiana Jones style rope bridge in one day and save this community. They can't get to the hospitals. food. They can't kids can't go to school. So he flies to Africa, doesn't know anybody, builds the bridge, and then he sets up a charity, Bridges to Prosperity. He's built now hundreds of bridges connecting millions of people in the third world. Other people have solved all kinds of problems. They saw old pets weren't being adopted. How do I set up a 501c3 and I'll go and match old pets with old people? — Oh, — so little problems, big problems, ideas that change everything. So, let's get back to I know you want to live longer. Number one thing when they looked at blue zones and they looked at the diet atmosphere and they missed the main thing that all the past 10 years of research has shown. Number one thing, be socially engaged. Have a reason to get up out of bed. Have a purpose. I believe the purpose of life is to live a life of purpose. So, my tools and and self-introspective, you know, quizzes inside the book help you figure out what motivates you to focus you on doing things. Now, you can do good and do well at the same time. You can make money and solve world problems. They don't have to be separate. But let's get back to I want Chris to live a good life. Okay. — If you make it to 60, you have a very good chance that you'll make it to 90. — Really? — That's 30 years. — I got two more years. — 100 years ago, the life expectancy was 35. Okay. So, retirement was you kill over at work. Okay. If you make it to 60 and you're going to make it to 90, that means your second act is longer than your career. — So, is that really true, Sam? Like, — healthy and not have dementia. My mom had Alzheimer's. It was a horrible way to go. — Yeah. — When she was still had some cognition, she says, "Why can't I just die? " — I mean, hearing your mom say that is not a happy thought. — So, let me give you some of the tips, okay? There's nine things. Again, I am not telling you to go to the gym and be a Schwarzenegger. I'm not telling you to eat berries, okay? Or just eat a dead horse, okay? — My favorite. — Okay. Here's one your mom didn't teach you. Two orgasms a week adds seven years to your life. No, it doesn't keep on going up. You're not living for 4,000 years. Okay, I see you laughing. — It's the whole mom and you just, you know, mix getting caught as a teenager or something for most guys in their youth. — So, let me give you another one. If you have a dog, you'll survive a stroke and heart attack better. 50% — 50% better. Cats don't do crap. Okay, nothing against cats. I'm just talking on longevity. Let me tell you a simple one that you can do starting today when you're asleep. And it's a huge one.

Treat sleep like a job. When you had a job, did you say, "Today I'm going to show up at noon. Tomorrow I'm going to just blow it off. I'll catch up. I'll do my work. " No. You showed up at the same time. If you show time and didn't eat your food three hours before and got prepared, your body develops a rhythm and you'll fall asleep instantly. Sleep deprivation is a huge problem. Many people, you know, you don't need pills. That'll solve the sleep issue. But let me tell you the best part of sleep. When you sleep, let's say you get a good eight hours. If you don't eat the few hours before and you don't eat right when you wake up and you boo all your meals in 8 hours, I don't even care what you eat. The other 16 put your body into thing called autophagy. Nobel Prize was won for this. The simple science is this. Your body runs out of glucose, runs out of sugar to feed itself. — So, it switches to ketones. I'm not pushing the ketone diet. Different thing. The only thing it can find to burn on your body when it goes into autophagy at hour 12, 13, or 14 is your visceral fat. The fat that's inside and wrapped around your organs, not the fat you see. — That's the fat you can't exercise away. That's great. But autophagy is the following. Each cell, hate to get science on you, hundreds of pages of of footnotes in this book. Each cell goes, "Wait a second. Chris is not feeding me anymore. I'm going to shut down. " So the mitochondria says, "I'm going to shut down any part of the cell that I don't absolutely have to keep alive. " And they're doing this cell by cell in your body because you're starving it. — So once it shut down the broken DNA, the deformed pieces, it shuts off feeding cancer. — Yeah. — If you go in autophagy often enough, — you'll not get cancer. I'm not a doctor. I'm not giving medical advice. Learn about the study. I give you a bibliography to go deep. You know, the lawyers made me take out, you know, the five supplements that I highly recommend. — Oh, really? — Because the lawyers are out there, but happy to, you know, answer anybody on social with that. If I listen to lawyers, the book would be one page long and we'd all be out of work and and uh Terminator would win. But — AI isn't evil. It's a tool. I created the first social network to reach a million people a decade before Facebook. I never saw the negative sides of it. I started commerce and didn't see what that would do to mom and pop shops. So, it's how you use the tool. And I'm telling you, every career is about to be disrupted. And you don't get to pick the win. So, why not prepare? What got you to the corner office? There's a reason why I've worked with the Pope and with presidents and run multinationals that do, you know, tens of billions a year. It's not because I'm bright. It's because I've spent my career hanging out with the people that are coding the future. — Yeah. — Hanging out with the people that code the future. That's my new goal. I'm going to work on that. — My my feed among social media and my pals aren't cats playing the piano. It's somebody bragging, look at a piece of research that I found. And that's really hard to do nowadays because AI is bringing all the greatest stuff. So, you can be the foremost expert and review everything in real time. I posted on my Substack J Samatsubstack. com this week. A guy's dog suddenly had tumors. Okay. Cancer. He loves his dog. You love your your dogs. Talk about that. — Oh, yeah. — He's not a scientist. He just used Chat GPT. We're talking one of the most generic things. Make a long story short. — Figured out how to get a vaccine made custom for his dog. You don't have to go through all the trials like and dissolve the tumors and saved his dog. — What the hell? I need to know more about this for the future because I'm tired of losing dogs to cancer. — Why wouldn't we want to have the healthiest, most impactful life? our legacy be showing what we can do at any age to show our kids or grandkids? — Cool. — Why would we want to help people? When I was in school, I don't know about you, my science project was a baking soda and vinegar volcano. I was proud of it. It exploded. It looked cool. Let me tell you what kids are doing today because they weren't told that they can't or it can't be done. My favorite was a young gal. Parents weren't scientists, weren't engineers, were weren't doctors. Looked up the number four cause of death. Do you know what it is, Chris? — What? — Being in a hospital. Number four cause of death. Not what you went in for, just being there. Okay, so long story short, because I know we don't have four months for the show, — what if sutures after a surgery change color if there's an infection? — Bingo bango. Made it because it's about pH balance, played with fruits and vegetables, learned how to do it online, got a patent because she probably watched Shark Tank, knew that by the

time she went to college and saving a 100,000 people a year their lives. I've wasted my life. Like another one, a junior high school kid saw mom crying. Why? The mom's sister got diagnosed with breast cancer. Figured out how to build a neural network. You don't even have to know what that is. And now has a way that doctors are identifying cancer much earlier. AI has seen every mammogram. Your doctor's seen 10,000. Who can identify patterns better? someone with all the data or someone with some data. So for some of these things, your eye doctor, have you ever been and they take that bright light at your eye and looks like a picture like a yolk? — I hate that thing. — They're looking for eye stuff. Great. You know what AI saw? — They can tell you that 10 years from now you'll be getting Alzheimer's. — Oh wow. They can tell you that your kidneys are not functioning off of your eye because they've seen the patterns of everybody that has that eye that looks like that. They know when and how. I also have a chapter about AI to bring into your home that can monitor your health to monitor your things. It's one thing when your doctor says, "Hey, Chris, lay off the the food and the booze. You know, you're going to have a heart attack. " It's another thing when a wearable says, "Hey, Chris, call the ambulance. You're going to be having a heart attack in 45 minutes. " — Whoa. — I worked on for foreign government they've put in for all their population, small country, wealthy country, that when the wearable says that you're having a heart attack, ambulance is sent. No humans involved. Automatically, autonomous ambulance is sent. You go down to the lobby, your doctor's notified, he gets himself to the hospital, and the hospital has all your medical records when you show up. That's what I call health care. The US is number 67 in healthcare. — Number 67. — Yeah. There's only 180 countries. So, we're C minus. — What? — So, let me now talk to the people that are really suffering now. And I'm I'm being serious. This is what motivates me to write this. Half of the people that reach retirement age have no savings. Of Americans have a negative net worth. They're in debt. — College kids are graduating with a mortgage and no house. And there's only one job for each 67 college graduates. There's a new term for your show. Used to be the glass ceiling. Women couldn't get in the seauite. It's now called the glass floor. Nobody's getting entry jobs in corporate America because AI is cheaper and CEOs are only care about the next 16 weeks, the quarter. because I was a CEO. You make your quarterly numbers, they back up the Brinks truck and make a ton of give you a ton of money. You don't care long term. So, here's who I'm speaking to. The government's not going to take care of you. You're going to have to figure this out right now. And it doesn't take any brains. It doesn't take a degree. It just takes asking questions. And you can do it. I believe in you. I've seen it. I've proven it. I've taught it. That's what I'm here about. And here's the good thing. Entrepreneurs don't sell anything. They solve things. — Yeah. — Chris, you help guys with dating, you're solving a problem, you make money. Solve for a thousand people, you make money. Sell for a million, you're rich. Solve for a billion, you change history. — If I can get more people solving problems, — makes a better world. That's all we're trying to do. Yeah. — Nobody ever went into a hardware store to buy a quarterinch drill bit. What they wanted was a quarter inch hole. The drill bit solved the problem. — Ah, — so that's all we're trying to do. You see problems in your life. — And if you have money, shame on you for dying with it. — Put it to work and solve something. Remember when the when all the billionaire friends pledge their money that when they die they'll give their hundred billion their 200 billion to charity. Two things 300 people signed that pledge. Only 15 have not rene if you had the ego to make a hundred billion dollars. Who do you think is better at spending that money to do good? whoever you give it to when you're dead that never figured out how to make that kind of money or you, the person who earned it. So when Bill Gates stepped down as Microsoft, he was the richest man in the world. And a friend of them said, "Nobody's going to remember you, Bill. There's always going to be a richest guy. " — It's kind of, you can imagine, can annoy somebody that was that successful. — It's true. — But they said, "You know what? You know what'll make you remembered? What if you're the first person to wipe a disease off the planet Earth? Never been done. Bill likes a challenge. — So, Bill's focused on getting rid of

polio. There was a vaccine, but how do you get it to place without refrigeration? How do you do this? He's been reti re retired 25 years. Here's his legacy. He's cut childhood mortality, the death of children in half globally, saving 25 million lives a year. — Yeah. — And most countries aren't reproducing themselves. People stopped having babies. The US isn't having babies. Japan sells more adult diapers than kid diapers. That's why the robots are coming to fill in the jobs. — What the hell? — Robots working, by the way, won't be paying in social security, which means there's nobody paying in to support old people. — Yeah. — China's one child policy. That child has to support two parents and four grandparents. — Yeah. — The pyramid falls over. I can't change what governments are messing around doing. and they're out dividing people. What I can do is give anybody that wants a life raft a lift up. The second hacked advantage leverages your strengths, what makes you you. And it doesn't have to be a tech business. If you make There's one guy who makes these beautiful Noah's arcs and little animals out of wood. He's in his 80s. — His grandson told him how to put up a website and then how to, you know, post on social media. He's sold out. He can't make them fast enough. But he's bringing joy and he gets the joy of seeing kids play with the toys. — Yeah. I mean it. So what you're I think to summarize what you're saying is you're saying that AI is going to make it much more easy to be a problem-solving entrepreneur because that's what entrepreneurs do. Problem solve — and at the same time wipe out tons of jobs. So even if you weren't sure about being an entrepreneur, you're not going to have a choice. So why not start the side hustle now? — There's the warning. Yeah, I mean, we're seeing these massive layoffs in 2026 here right now and late of 2025. And there's, you know, this is usually the opportunity zone — and everybody in Silicon Valley, all your big tech giants, the biggest market cap companies are laying off tens of thousands of engineers at a time when there's whole countries. If you go to India, slight exaggeration, no offense to my brothers and sisters in India, there's basically one college major. — Really? — Yeah. Be an engineer. You know, your mom hits you over the head. You want to study liberal arts? You want to, you know, be a painter? No. Get an engineer. Get a good job. Those jobs are gone. — All those countries that live off of the factory work we sent over, those jobs are gone. How are their people going to make a living? I just got hired by a nation state to work on their five-year plan because they're looking at all their jobs disappearing in their country. When I say a third of all country jobs disappear doesn't mean it's equally divided by every country. — Yeah. — Some countries are going to be devastated. — Yeah. I thought it was interesting that the highest paid some of the highest paid members of our society the coders were the — coders doctors lawyers accountants consulting when I give this talk I give these talks all over the world the safest job at the bottom is dentist and then I cut to the next slide — job is dentist — right cut to the next slide in Germany they have two things now a robotic dental arm so It can do cavities without a dentist. — Might freak you out, but in countries that don't have dentists, it's better than agonizing pain. But the second one is thanks to AI, they figured out with stem cells, humans can now regrow teeth. No more crowns, bridges, regrow the teeth. — Wow. — Like a lizard getting a tail. Yeah. The wows are unbelievable. When Google figured out how, man, humankind figured out how to fold figure out the folds of one protein, one protein strand. Google put a special AI on it and did 300,000 or maybe there three million did every protein, which means we now have new cures for almost anything. We're behind in putting them into practice. But you sell courseware, correct? Okay, everybody. My point is if you made it to a certain age, you've learned something. AI can help you build that course, make those videos, do the lessons, market it, make the sales funnel, all in one hour, — and then you can sit back and watch the money come in. — I have a professor friend who does this live as a demo. Here's the topic. Let's make a course. Here's these great videos. Here's the spokespeople. Here's everything. Like, unbelievable. And it looks human. — I'll tell you a job because I know some of your audience I wouldn't say this on those shows. You know what job is not expecting to be wiped out? — Politicians — 18 to 24 year old women in this country.

The percent that are on only fans is astronomical. — Yeah. — It's above 20%. Millions of people, and I don't judge, okay, are making money as what's affectionately called mattress actresses. Many of those now are AI. The porn industry is being replaced by those aren't humans. Your influencers, the number one influencer, there's many influencers that are making a million dollars a month and they're not real. They're AI and they're not disclosing it. The number one influencer in Pakistan is a nice attractive woman wearing the hijab. She isn't real. — Yeah. — She's made by somebody sitting coated somewhere. The number one soap opera actress in China right now. Everybody else on the cast is real. She isn't. And people are sending love letters and falling in love with this. — Look at the Did you hear about the Trump AI? The young gal who's has these pictures that she's hanging — Oh, in the military. She's in the White House. I think she's got a million followers and they're sending her money. — So many. They're going to replace all the influencers because they cook better. They can match whatever looks. You know, the power is the B. AI can figure out what somebody's clicking on and say, "Okay, I have a legitimate product. I think it'll appeal to whatever. Let me get guys that only want blonde hair and a different ad that goes to guys that only click on blue eyes or want this, that, or the other thing. " your ads are going to get so bespoke that you're going to go, "Wow, I really want to get to know who's that. " And then next thing you know, they're selling you life insurance. So, the world's an exciting place. You can solve, you can do great good. And the people that are just not taking the I can't do it. Your parents didn't want you to fail. Your teachers So, they steered you towards the safe path that doesn't exist. Azie and Harriet, the Brady Bunch, the middle class has been eviscerated. 30,000 people in the US own 90% of all land, companies, stocks, and bank accounts. — Wow. — So, you're not succeeding because you're an idiot. You're succeeding because you bought into something that wasn't a lie when it was told to you, but it is now. I got I stumbled on this journey. I went to school. Get the good grades. you'll get a good job and live happily ever after. I got out in a recession. Nobody was hiring. I also had my two sons very young, so I looked down at their faces. Greatest motivators ever. I couldn't give up. So, I went where nobody else was doing, you know, and constantly invented new things and got lucky and learned a pattern. — Teach people how to do that. I'm not one of these names that you have on the show and everybody else. Come to my mastermind. I'm going to charge you this. I'm I don't want to make a dime off you. You have to buy the book because the publisher — needs to get them into airports and do all that. Right. So, is living 28 years longer worth the price of a cronut and a frappuccino? — Definitely. — It is buy the second act advantage. — And I will share the other thing that motivates me and this was a surprise since we've talked, Chris, I've now heard from readers, my books are in over a dozen languages. I've heard from readers in 140 countries. — Do that as a brag. I do that as how is that possible? I can walk down any street in any city. I'm an unknown. But people are thirsting for this knowledge around the world for what we're talking about. When I was a public NASDAQ CEO and made millions or hundreds of millions for the board, I never got an email. Hey Jay, great job. Thanks. But I'm getting what I call love letters. I get emails from people that thank me for changing their life and I didn't do anything. I just take the blinders off and help point you. And now hopefully with digital J I can give you that personal attention that daily motivation and and always give you current information. So you don't like the health care, you're broke, you're worried about number one cause of bankruptcy in this country, medical problems. What about what's called geo arbitrage? make your digital income in the US, but is there another place that you could live less expensively but richer? You know, Costa Rica, Portugal, one guy that I talked about in the book moved to Italy for hundred something dollars. He gets his health care and he got both knees replaced, his cataract and everything and his out of pocket for that was $1,000. That would bankrupt people without insurance in this country. — Oh, yeah. I mean, I just had two hernia surgeries and looked at the bill, you know, thank God for insurance. I don't know why am I thinking — insurance countries and I talk about this and again, Digital J can steer you. It's the latest and greatest. There's countries that are now doing, you know

medical tourism. You don't have to have a citizenship or whatever. Go to Thailand. It's like checking into a Ritz Carlton. There's a person assigned to you, you know, the care part of health. takes you around to all the different doctors you want to see, has all your stuff done, you stay in a beautiful suite, you know, and you leave healthy and not broke. — Ah, let's we I think we've got the book in the pitch there and so people get access to that AI system that you built. If they buy the book, is there like a code or something in the book? How does that work? — Yeah, in the book it shows you how to get to Digital J. There's nothing to download. It's all web- based. For those that buy it now, if you're hearing this before, cinco deayo of26, just reach out to me at jsammit. com or on Instagram or anywhere you can find me. I'm easy to find LinkedIn and I will give I will trust you. I will give you the link so you can start playing with Digital J now. — You don't have to send me the receipt. If you're gonna lie to someone that's trying to help you survive, you got bigger problems than — Yeah, maybe you need the money more than you know. But yeah, so — I'll tell that to people on Facebook Marketplace when I'm selling something, they really lowball me. I go, "Look, man, if you need the money to you need to save that amount of money, like 20 bucks, that bad, maybe you shouldn't be buying my thing because you really need to be saving your money. " I did the opposite when I moved during co from my place in Bair. I had a whole big gym set up that I didn't need where I'm going. So, I put it up waiting for the one kid that would go, "Could I just get this thing or whatever? " And I go, "Can you get access to a truck? " — He goes, "Yeah, my dad my dad's a gardener. " I said, "No problem. Tell him everything that you can carry is yours for free. " — Right. come on over to Jay's house for stuff. — I've had a blessed life, right? — I I you know, to do half of what I've done, I'd come back again. So, the way I keep doing is I just try to pay it forward. That's all I've spent the past 10 years doing. And it's been the most rewarding 10 years of my life. — You know, once I took care of me and mine, I didn't see a reason. I don't need, you know, I won't out him. He's very good to me. But somebody just built a $500 million yacht. Okay, not judging. — You can land a helicopter. It has a little boat inside it. Not judging. What I'm judging is you just spent $500 million on a boat that is so complex that it has to be followed by a $200 million boat because all the crew can't fit on your $500 million boat to make it work. — What the hell? who should have [ __ ] slapped that person. Okay. — Oh my god, it's — a few billionaires that suddenly found out that they were going to die in six months. Paul Allen was one. The two others are still with us and alive. So, I don't think I can out them on the size of your audience. — But what happened the second they found that out? Their priorities changed. So, the other two people turned out they didn't die. But once they found the joy that comes from having a purpose, from helping others, — they've dedicated their lives and done amazing things. And one of the two was very good to me. Everybody said, "How could you work with him? He is a cutthroat prick. " To me, he was a nice guy cuz he needed me at a time when I was the only nerd in the world. But you get such satisfaction of paying it forward. and some of the things people did. There was a woman in Texas, 87 years old. Now, I'm lazy. I've already talked about that. Okay, that chapter on health is called the lazy nerds guide to living 28 years long. She's 87. To put in perspective, her grandmother was born enslaved. Okay, we're not that far removed from the Civil War when you put it that way. So, her whole life, she wanted Junth to become a holiday. Politicians gave lip service and everything. — She was tired of it. She waited her whole life. So at 87 she decided she was going to walk from Texas. Walk Forest Gum Style walk from Texas to Washington DC so the press would notice what people would notice. By the time she got to the White House it was a federal holiday. I mean you can change the world. Another woman got midlife. She got divorced. Her husband ran off. Left her depressed death. Okay. and divorce. Somebody said, "You're either going to have to get a therapist or a dog. " She couldn't afford the therapist, so she got a dog to feed the dog. Her local dog store had a contest for Christmas. Make a Christmas card with your dog. If it wins the contest, you get free dog food for the year. So, she made a card of her

cute bulldog, Zelda, with a Santa cap. And it said, "For Christmas, I got a dog for my husband. " And you opened it up and said, "Good trade, huh? " Good trade. She sold a million of them the first year. — Really? Wow. — Zelda Wisdom does $50 million a year. — What the hell? — So, there's ways to do this if you can learn these tools. So, if you weren't if you thought social media was for young kids, there's old people playing video games making six and seven figures because people just like to watch it. There's old people cooking. There's old people eating. You can find and monetize and create a course. You can mentor other people. You can get a younger person to mentor you. You can be more connected, more alive, and find more joy. — Yeah. More joy. And all with AI. Jay, do we want to get a plug in here for any services on your website that you offer? Speaking, consulting, coaching, any of that? — I thank you. I the only people that can hire me is when there's something that I think is makes a difference for humanity, I'll join their board. I've raised hundreds of millions of dollars. The last one of those was for a past hundred years, we grow food by slathering with poison that kills the bees, the birds, the little mice, you know, the weeds, everything. But it doesn't give us cancer for 20 years so the food companies can make money. an engineer that worked for me. His dad died of Parkinson's from handling, you know, all the all these chemicals. He came up with a better way. What if we made robots, think of a little thing like an ice chest that go up and down the roads like corn and just cut the weeds instead of poison? Fast forward, green field robotics. Farmer makes more money, he's growing organic, doesn't have to buy all those chemicals. Farmer doesn't get cancer. The excess doesn't run off the Mississippi, kill all the fish in the Gulf of Mexico, and we don't get cancer and die. — That's a good sleep at night. knowing that I don't help that company. Mhm. — So I became their found joined the founders you know helped them raise money — chairman so those are the things otherwise — I don't want to work right so you have to guilt me into working so that's the only thing to plug — you wrote a book and there's some work in there — but that guilted me I I see the tsunami of job loss coming I see problems before they happen the second act solution — is the first step in a journey hopefully to everybody having a better more fulfilling life. — You're too young to believe that this doesn't apply. The hardest gifts to give are Mother's Day and Father's Day, right? Give your parents or grandparents a brighter future. Cheaper than a dozen roses and it lasts longer and it shows that you really care. — Yeah. Put grandma to work, damn it. Get her out of she get her quit sitting around the house. But no, I mean AI is really great. I've tried to get my mom to start using it to help her with stuff. She, you know, I've finally got I think for years she's been on hooked on Google, you know, hey Google that. Wait, I just probably triggered. — But there's also AI you can put in her home so you can see did she get out of bed? Did she move? Did she make it to the kitchen? What's her blood pressure today? There's AI that can talk to her and play games and do stuff which she'll enjoy as part of her day. But it also matches and watches if there's cognitive decline or things the family members should know about. if heart rate has gone up, you know, lot lots of tools that are helpful. There's one guy who made a parrot for his father that sits there can talk with the talking parrot and it watches and it does vitals. It's amazing. But whatever new is exciting, I always put in my jam substack. com. Again, it's a free Substack, but I do it because there's always stuff that excites me and I want a constant channel to, you know, stop the doom scrolling and and learning some cool stuff. — But I like the doom scrolling. Anyway, Jay, uh, as we go out, give people final pitch out to pick up your book or, you know, I think maybe we've done that, but — so Jays. com, that's where you can find all the information. future. Oh, that was the last book. Second act advantage and it comes with the first book to come with a custom AI that was trained specifically just to help you. And I know you can do it. So, thank you for sharing your audience with me, Chris. Thanks for tuning in, everybody. And email me and let me know — how it's worked out for you and what you're doing so I can share your success stories with the world. — Thank you very much. We certainly appreciate it, Jay. Jay, man. — Thank you. — Thank you. And thanks a for tuning in. Order of Jay's book. I've already bought it on audio book there, so it's coming my way on May 6 or I'm sorry, May 5th, 2026. It's called The Second Act Advantage. Monetize your wisdom, master

longevity, and build an unforgettable legacy. Thanks for tuning in. Go to goodreads. com Chrisfos linkedin. com Chrisfos one on the Tik Tocky and all those crazy places of the internet. Be good to each other. Stay safe. We'll see you next. — You've been listening to the most amazing intelligent podcast ever made to improve your brain and your life. Warning, consuming too much of the Chris Show podcast can lead to people thinking you're smarter, younger, and irresistible sexy. Consume in regularly moderated amounts. Consult the doctor for any resulting brain lead. All right, Jay, great