500K Subscribers! Giving Away a Nikon Z8

Hello everyone. Hopefully everybody can hear me because I don't often do live on YouTube. So this is not a first but I think a second for me. Um so hopefully everyone can hear me. — So if you could just um just say that below. Yeah. All clear. Great. So, basically what I'm going to do is I've got a few things to give away. So, I'm going to give away two books, two calendars, and this camera. And I'm also going to do some Q& A's. Before I do all that, I just want to say just a massive, massive thanks. Now, I know that there's not going to be a huge amount of people on the live streams. I've seen people do live streams before and it seems like just a small pe a few people attend, but hopefully um I'll leave this on my channel and more people can watch it. So, um yeah, I just can't believe that I've got to this point. It's just boggles my mind completely that um half a million people have clicked that subscribe button over the last eight years. Um and um yeah, I'm just totally blown away. Um, I saw somebody comment in the thing saying, "I bet Mass and James won't be happy. " Yeah, I I I'll rub that in with them. To be honest, I don't think I have done so far, but I'll be seeing them soon. So, yeah, don't worry. I'll rub it in. Um, the other thing to mention is you'll probably see here that that's the door of my camper van. I'm actually away doing my county's projects at the moment. I am um not far away from London actually on my way to Cambridge here at the moment. um really tricky photographing this part of the country at any time apart from bluebell season. Um or when the woodlands are good or whe there's fog or something like that. Um so I'm struggling if I'm honest, but I think I found some good photos today. I've I walked down a canal and I did some other things. So that was pretty good. Okay, so I'm going to do the giveaway of the calendars and the books first. Then I'll do some questions. So, you've got chance to have a think about your questions and then I'll do the giveaway of the camera. Um, so I'm going to do this sort of live pseudo live is what I'm going to call it because I can't show you the um list of all the names because it's all a load of email addresses and that would be data protection. I can't just tell you all the email addresses of everyone that's subscribed to my newsletter because it's going to be picked from somebody that's subscribed for my newsletter as I mentioned in my um various bits of communication around this. Um but there's a lot there's quite a few thousand people in that. Um so just to give you an idea of chances and I'm going to I've got a random number generator on my phone. I'm going to pick a random number and then I've got a spreadsheet in front of me and you're just going to believe me and I'm going to pray that the email I can tell the name of the person from the email so it's not like 6745gmail. com or something um and I'll say the name obviously but I can't say the email address. If it is just a random email then I'll just send that email out to somebody um and say that they've won. There's a good chance that whoever wins is probably not going to be on this stream anyway. So questions. So, if you want to ask a question, everyone's found the comments and I've seen so many nice comments. So, thank you very much. But if you do want to ask a um a question, somebody said, "We believe you, Nigel. " Yeah. No, you've got to believe me. I'm going to be really honest about this. Um so, um if you want to ask a question, ask it in the comments there. If you want your question to come to the top, then there is a super chat where there's a little dollar icon, I think it might be, or a money icon. If you click that, you can pay a small amount and your um question will come to the top. I'll answer the super chats first and then the other chats as well. Nobody wants to do a super chat. That's totally fine as well. Okay. Right. Let's get into this. I'm so scared. I don't know why I'm just so scared about this. Right. So, I've just get my um random number generator up and I put in one to the number of um people that subscribe to my newsletter in the spreadsheet. So, I just get the spreadsheet up in front of me, and I'm going to click the random number generator. It's generated a number. It's generated 7,28. Um, right. This needs to not be a friend. Uh um when I did my golden ticket um for a calendar, a print, I think it was Jiron um in Iceland. my friend that I did the drone master class with got the golden ticket cuz I just had no idea who was going to get it. It was just totally random. All right, sorry. I'm scrolling through my thing here. 7,000, right? This is for Close to Calm. And the good news is that I can read the name. So, it's Damian

John Frotography, right? I better make a note of that, haven't I? Because otherwise I'll forget all these names. No, I suppose I got the recording, right? So, well done, Dan. Damian, did I say Daniel? It's Damian. Um, you have won a Close to Karm book. I've got um your email address. So, I'll send you an email to get your address details. Okay, we'll do a calendar next. So, the next person is going to win one of my calendars and I'll throw in some greeting cards with all these as well. So, you get a set of greeting cards. Um, and um, so I'll do another generation of a number and it's 2,494, right? 2494. Scroll all the way back. 24,494 is um Oh, no. 2000. No, I read the wrong number. Okay. Um, it's Paul K. Potter. So, well done, Paul. You have won a calendar and some greeting cards. So, that's good. Um, oh, I forgot as well, I'm giving away a print. So, we're going to do the print and the um, Z8 after I've [clears throat] done a Q&A. So, we will do another close to calm now. So, I'm going to generate a number 1529. It's probably boring for you this, isn't it? But you never know. You might win. Um 1529 is now I'm not sure this is a person. Um right, it's it the email start of the email is Ben Redhouse. So can't be many people start their email addresses like that. Um, you have won a copy of Close to Calm and some greeting cards. So, I will send those out to you. And we've got one more calendar, some greeting cards. We'll do one more generation. And the number is 15,380. Right, that's going to be close to the bottom. Bear with me. Okay, so this person is okay. From the email address, it looks like they're from Switzerland, I think. Christian Writer. So, well done, Christian. You have won a calendar. It'd be funny if these people have just already bought Close to Common Calendars. Um, well, when I email you, if you have, I'll exchange it for a different gift. Okay. Yeah, you'll all get greeting cards and that and um Paul and Christian will get the calendars and Damian and Ben I presume will get close to calm, right? Hopefully we've got some questions to answer now. Um so I am going to go and scroll through and see if I can find Here we go. We got a question. I'll just see if got any super chats. Just make sure answer those. Nope. Unless they've gone there. I don't know how to use this. Right. So I'm going to start from the top then. And I'm just going to answer some questions. So, um, so somebody's asked me here, um, are you always using the circular polarizer when you are photographing the woodland, um, after or during rain? Not always. No. So, I tend to use a circular polarizer when it works, you know, when I think that it's going to make the image um, better. And it's not necessarily more vibrant, it's just better. So, sometimes I want to reduce reflections on the leaves, give them a little bit more vibrancy. Sometimes I think the reflection on the leaves are best. So I usually take one with a circular polarizer with it half on and with it off because you can't replicate that afterwards. So not always. Um I just look at it and see what it looks like. I'd say probably 20% of the time. Um somebody said, um I like your efforts on the van. Tell us how much did it cost for it all and the price and details of the van itself and any additional components. Well, I'm actually going to do a video on this and how much it cost because I don't mind sharing it. I mean, people probably got a pretty good idea, but um I won't mention the price of the van, but the the cost of everything in the van was around about £22,000 roughly. Um almost half of that was on the electrics. So, the electrics was really expensive. Um because I went for quite a high spec. So, yeah. Um, and then there was about a year and a half of my life. Um, so another question about the van. How many miles a month do you think you travel um just regular days out in and around

home? That's a r that's a random question from Alex. Um, well, not that much to be honest because I I tend to if I'm at home, I'll wait for good weather or good conditions. And if I think there's going to be good weather or good conditions, then I'll go out. Occasionally, I'm scouting. So, usually before autumn, I scout maybe a new woodland or something. But usually when I'm at home, I'm not traveling that much because I travel so much when I go out on trips. I mean, on this on the camper van trip at the moment, I've already done 4,400 miles, I think. So, a lot. Um okay, somebody's asked a super chat here. So, hello Helen Nigel, are you able to talk yet about getting back into doing workshops in England and how far are you planning to do them? So, yeah, I I'm definitely going to do some workshops next year. Um my plan is to work them all out and get them all um sorted by the new year. So, um I'll probably announce them either the really end of this year or the new year and I'll announce them. There's going to be there'll definitely be one in the Lake District. There's likely to be one in Iceland and Scotland. Um and then also there's potential for one down south as well. Um and some of these almost all of them will be done with other people, not just myself. Uh so yeah, so it looks like it's going to be four next year and um I will be announcing those through my newsletter. Okay, so there's a question here from Wayne. Um, okay. So, it's a Canon question, so I can't actually answer that. I'm forbidden from answering or talking about Canon, to be honest. I don't have a clue. Um, you've asked a question about the R six. I don't even know what the R six is to be honest, if I'm honest. But, uh, I mean, of those two lenses, if I think about it from a Nikon perspective, I'd say the 2. 8 eight lens is usually the better quality lens from a um technical quality point of view. Somebody said here was really nice, just wanted to say that your video is the reason I started doing landscape photography. Um and it changed the way I see nature. To be honest, comments like that just mean the world to me. Um you know, I've had quite a few people mention to me that they started photography because of me. Some have turned into incred I shouldn't say some like some of them have been absolutely rubbish. No. Um you know some of those people have turned into incredible photographers that I really admire as well. Um in fact somebody commented right at the very beginning of this um Rich um who's a friend of mine. Um and I can't believe that he started photography and learned his photography from watching my videos. That just means the world to me. So that's really cool. Um right I'm going to look for some more questions. new comments. There must be loads of questions. Okay, it's really hard to see them with everyone else's. Okay, here we go. Um, there's an uptick in the popularity of film photography. Do you use or plan to get into it? This is from Pete. I can see why people are doing that because I think it, you know, photography is it's just a way of capturing your moments, emotions, um, and capturing something when you're out in nature or in a city or whatever you're doing. And I actually doesn't I don't think it matters whether you use a digital camera like the Z8 or a film camera. I think what's important is that you're excited to use that camera. And for me, I'm really excited to use the latest cameras. I I get excited by tech. Um so for me, I'd never go to a film camera because I'm just not excited by that. I started my photography journey shooting film cameras. In fact, just black and white. For the first seven or eight years of photography, all I shot was black and white. So, it's why I don't shoot much black and white now because I've just sort of I feel, you know, I don't see I don't I just don't have an emotional connection with a film camera. I just don't I don't see the point for me. But that doesn't mean that it's not um not good for other people. Okay. Another question here is, does your wife have any problems that you you're not at home for a long period? Um she's glad that I'm not at home. Um I think um I just moan a lot when I'm at home. So um no I I think she's really good and my wife is absolutely fantastic and she's never says anything negative about me going away. Um I don't travel as much as it probably seems though. I am home quite a lot. Um you know I when I do travel I

post a lot on social media so it seems as though probably I'm out more than I am. Um, somebody else has said the same about analog photography. Um, I have done it obviously. I had my own dark room. I developed all my own films, prints. I was massively into it. Um, but yeah. So, somebody said, "Your favorite lenses used to be a 24 to 120 and a 100 to 400. Now you seem to rely on the 24 to 200. Is that good or is it weight? " So, it's not that is better than those other two lenses. Those other two lenses are definitely better. You know, if you're looking for just quality, optical quality, then you would be way better using like a 24 to 70 f2. 8 um and just buying the best quality lenses. For me, it's more about convenience because I'm quite hiking quite a lot. I'm carrying quite a lot of things. Um, you know, at the moment, I've got this new bag. In fact, I probably need to mention this on Instagram, but this is a a sling bag. Um, and um, I got this because I've just had my pacemaker changed and I can't have a strap going over there. So, this is like a really small bag. I can't carry many things in it. So, the 24 to 200 just fits that purpose. In fact, at the moment, I'm using my 28 to 400 millimeter lens because I wanted to try that out. I mean, you're just going down in quality every time you're up in the zoom range really. But um if you choose the right aperture, you can still get pretty good things. Um okay. Um okay, some nice comments. Okay. So, somebody said a good question here um at the uncommitted um what would you say your most influential image was? Um I think there's two images that I've taken that mean a lot to me. One of them is about 2007 when I was um really starting to get heavily keen into photography again because I started when I was really young and then I had a break when I had kids and they were young and then I got back into photography really. Um and I it's called Sun Tree. I've talked about it so many times on YouTube and it's a it looks like an almost like a Japanese tree with a sun in the middle of it and that and that made me realize that photography if you plan it you can get really amazing things and it also made me realize that you can get amazing things in very ordinary environments cuz that you know I used to drive past that all the time and think nothing of it. Um, so there's that one and then another one. It's probably two really, but another one is um the a land that time forgot which is the one in Iceland which is like black and gold. It's not the black and gold with the sort of bokeh balls at the bottom but the black and gold one at Vestroon. Um I was with Mass Peter Everson in about 2008 or nine I'd say. Um and Mass is just crazy. He like I don't think he needs sleep to be honest. And um we like had three or four nights of going down the south coast of Iceland and it was just incredible light. Um we packed everything away. We're going to go back. I stayed out for a little bit. Was doing a bit of video and then the light changed and that happened and I got that shot and it oh I it's still one of my favorite shots. Um and it means a lot cuz I really enjoyed that trip with Mass. um you know seeing him and you know I feel like I really elevated my photography by spending time with Mass. I find that a lot when I spend time with other photographers that I tend to improve. So yeah, I love that. Um okay. So what would you recommend for a camper van build on a tighter budget? Say 10,000. So I presume 10,000 is the cost of building the actual bed, not the camper van. Um well I think you can do it loads cheaper than me. I mean, I I think you can get So, I wouldn't skimp on your electrical system. So, but you don't need, you know, you can get a smaller battery. slightly different inverter and don't get a Victron battery. There's no point. I didn't get one. Um, you can probably not go for don't go for Victron stuff. Go for other stuff and it's slightly cheaper. um get a really small um Chinese heater rather than a German heater. Um I've heard really good things about them that really saves you a lot of money. Obviously, you got to convert it yourself. Um and then just um just think about the materials you're using and just try and do it as cheap as possible. I suppose what I

did because I wanted to keep this van for a very long time. So, I wanted to put in invest in it as much as possible. Right, I'm going to answer a couple more questions, then we'll do the giveaway of the camera and the print, and then I'll ask a few more questions. So, two more questions, then the giveaway, and then I'll come back to some more questions. Um, Nigel, do you make any other types of photos beside landscapes? So, yes. Um, I do. Um, actually, there's a few more super chats as well, so I'm going to answer those after this. Um, I do. I used to do a lot of portrait photography, mainly with my kids, so I really enjoyed that. Um, I do like wildlife photography, but I'm not very good at wildlife, so I'm like I wildlife. I get it all wrong. Um, but I'm not that patient either. I'm patient for mountains and waiting for the weather, but I'm not patient when animals don't do what they say. But I do like wildlife photography. I do enjoy it. So, especially when in places like Antarctica where it's just stunning landscapes as well. So, you're getting wildlife in the landscapes. Um, yeah, that's probably it. I mean, it's 99% landscapes really. Okay. Um, so I really like the efforts on the van. Tell us how much did it cost? Sorry, I've done that one. How many miles a month do you travel at church? So, I've done that one as well. Um, okay. So, we'll ask one more question. Let me go and find another question. How is Pebbles doing? Um, oh, I found a few more now of super chats. Pebbles's doing really well. Um, she is crazy as usual. We call her Crazy Pebbles. She's not been in many videos recently. Um, but she will be. I've got some ideas for her in a video as well. Um, one coming quite soon where I'm doing something a little bit different, but yeah, she's great. Um, I love Pebbles. Um, so one another super chat here. Um, what is your go-to astro lens on your Z8? Um, yeah, it probably is the 20 mm f1. 8 to be honest. I have got a 14 [snorts] mm lens and I can't remember what make it. I really it is but I don't do a lot of astro either because I don't find that astro works very well with landscape photography because by the time you gone three hours before sunset and done sunset then to do astro is really hard. So, I used to do a lot more astro, but I don't do that much. Do you script your YouTube videos? Adam said, um, no, I don't, but I do plan them, which is sounds d, but I never read a script. I think if you read a script, you've got to be good at reading. I'm dyslexic. It would go very badly. So, basically, I just have big words that I can see on the screen behind me. I've sort of thought about it and I I'm prompted by a lot of the photos that I'm talking about, especially if I'm doing a studio video and I just look at those words. If I'm doing a video in the field, if it's a video where I'm talking about a specific thing like um wide angle or something like that, then I've thought about that before for maybe a couple of hours, written down some bullet points I should talk about, and I talk about those as I go along or as if things present themselves and I think, okay, that'll tick off that thing I was going to talk about. Yeah, I find scripting it it would wouldn't work too well, right? Okay, one more super chat and then I'll go to the the draw. Do you use a protective filter when oceanside? Yes. So, by the by the um sea, I don't use a protective filter, but I quite often have a polarizing or an ND filter on. Um, I feel um I feel that I feel like if I put a filter on my lens, then I'm going to reduce the quality of it. So, I only put a filter on my lens if I feel it's going to elevate the image in some way. Um, you've got to remember that a lens, you know, millions and millions of pounds of research and development gone into the optical quality of a lens and then you put a filter on it and then, you know, I guarantee you that filter not as much optical um, research has gone into it. I'm not saying they're bad. You know, I use case filters. They're absolutely fantastic, but I feel like you want to reduce the amount of elements in front of your lens. filters are amazing if you want to, you know, create longer um exposures or you want to reduce the reflection of something with an ND filter, but only use them when you need to. Um, and you your lenses are pretty tough as well. So, as long as you, you know, just have an ND

cloth ready um for cleaning your lens by the ocean, then that's the best. Um, somebody says Nick Paige in the house. Hi, Nick, if you're here. Um, good to see you. Um, right. So, I've been told there's some more super chats. I'm so bad at this. No, I think I've answered them all. Unless I'm being really dumb. Um, oh, there. No, I've got them all, I think. Yeah. [clears throat] So, I've got all those. Right. Here we go. Right. I'm going to check that I've got um we're going to do this. the draw first for a print. So, this is an A3 print in a presentation box. Again, come with some greeting cards. Any image of your choice. Um so, this isn't just any image from my portfolio that I've already got as prints. Any image. So, any image that I've ever taken you I'll do as a print. I'll sign it and I'll lumber it as well. So, um, right, I need to get the Google Cobson. Why am I nervous doing this? I've lost my Google. Um, here we go. Sorry, I've lost my random number generator. I just need to put the number in again. Right, we're generating a number. Not that this means much to you. Oh, it's a low number again. If you got a low number, you're successful. um 4,616, which is 6. I need a drum roll for this bit, don't I? 4616 is okay. So, their email address makes me think they're in New Zealand. Um, and it is an Anna. No, is it Ann Steve? An and Steve. So, if you called Ann and Steve in New Zealand, you've won. Yay. Um, so that's the print. Right. Finally, this um so um going to check this again. Right, I've really got to check that everything's right here. Bear with me a second. I just don't want to do something completely wrong. And okay, that's good. Right. Um. [gasps] Oh, okay. I think that's good. Right. The number is Everyone still with me? 18,375. What did I say? 18,375. 80,000. Okay. The winner is Oh, it's a name. That's good news. Phoebe Andrews. So, if call Phoebe Andrews, wherever you are, I will drop you an email. you have won the Z8 that's been on my shelf for a couple of years, but it's still um the most modern Zed8. You might have to do a firmware update on it. And um it's not this one, by the way. This is mine. Um you wouldn't want this one. It's battered. But well done um Phoebe. I'm glad. Thanks for subscribing to my newsletter as well. And thanks for um also following me and subscribing on my YouTube channel. I really appreciate that. Right. I'll add I'll ask some more questions. Um I'll answer some more questions. Okay. And I'll do this for just another 10 minutes. Okay. So, this is just I'm just doing this at random. Um so somebody's asked what starter filters you would recommend for a Z72. I mean I like case filters. So the case circular filters and I go for an ND um a lower ND. So an ND3 and maybe six stop or something like that. And then a um polarizer. That's probably all you need unless you want to go for a 10 stop if you like those really flat calm seas which some people do. than a 10 stop filter. Um, somebody

said, "Have you ever watched YouTube photographers and which or who gives you the most pleasure? " that's a tricky one. Um, so I don't watch a lot of YouTube photography if I'm honest. So I'll go through a few. So um, there's obviously my mates, um, Rick, um, who's been doing YouTube for a long time but only started doing it recently. He's edited a lot of my previous videos as well. Um, so Rick Bington, definitely recommend you check him out. Mass obviously Mass Peter Iverson. Um, James Popsy. Um, very funny. Um, and he does use a tripod. And um, and then I used to watch a lot of Thomas Heaton. So when I first started photography, he just started his channel and inspired me to start my channel if I'm honest. And um yeah, I I think I don't watch that many of his now just because it's so difficult when you're doing your own thing. If you watch somebody else, you sort of copy them. Um I watched one recently and I thought it was just incredible. His videography skills are just absolutely amazing. So yeah, I I do like Thomas' stuff. Um and he's built a camper van now. Um which we spoke about recently actually. Um, some point we'll get together, me and Tomman, and um, maybe do a video. You never know. Um, okay. So, somebody says the Sigma 40 millimeter. That's what I've got. That's the astro lens that I've got. The Sigma 40 mm. Yeah, cuz um, Nikon just don't do one wide enough. Um, and it's better to have a wide one, especially if you're doing more Milky Way stuff. Um somebody says, "Have you ever thought about resurrecting the first video to celebrate 500,000? " To be honest, you can go and watch my first video, just put oldest. And it's me with a phone walking up my street in San Francisco um or just outside San Francisco where I lived at the time saying, "I think I'm going to start a YouTube channel. It's so bad. I'm so embarrassed by it. And then I went to Euseite. So, it was a good place to do one and that's when I did my first two. Um, but you can watch them. They're really awful. Um, but yeah, it was I got good some good photos in. Uh, somebody says it's snowing Michigan. That sounds cool. It shouldn't snow here. That would make my life a lot easier. Um, would I consider jumping ship to Sony? No way. I absolutely love Nickon. I'm a Nikon ambassador, which I'm super proud about. Um, you know, it's something that I've dreamt of forever. I've used Nikon cameras for as long as I can remember. I absolutely love them. They're built like I won't say that, but they're built very strong and um that's good because I drop them a lot. Uh, somebody said not true if you buy high quality filters. So, I think maybe they're just referring to it degrades the image quality. I mean, anything you put in front of a camera will degrade the image quality. It doesn't matter the quality cuz you're always going to have some reflection from it. You're going to lose light going into the lens um and you're going to have um defraction and refraction going through that lens as well. Um and that filter. So, it will it doesn't matter what quality lens is. It can be made by NASA. it still degrade the quality going into your camera. So, somebody says, "I'm planning a photography trip to the UK next year. What location would you highly recommend visiting for landscape? " So, in the UK, so Scotland and Wales included. I definitely recommend Snowonia in Wales or Gleno in Scotland or the aisle of sky or if you're really adventurous go to the outer heedes in Scotland which are the islands right at the north. Um and then in England I probably recommend the Lake District um or the south uh west of the country. So Devon, Somerset, Cornwall around there absolutely amazing. Um, if you live in one of the other places I've not mentioned, I'm really sorry, but I I am giving England quite a lot of love at the moment. Okay. You recently visited Lincolnshire, which where I'm from. I'm glad that I'm not the only one who struggles. It was so hard. Lincolnshire was a really tough county. I think I didn't have much time there either. Usually, I was spending two or three days and that county I only had a day and a half. I got lucky with the light and I flew my drone over the coast. But I think if I' have gone onto the coast and photographed it with my big camera, I think I'd have I just didn't have time to do that. I think I'd have done better. Um, but it is hard when it's

flat. No doubt about it. And I think it then depends on the quality of the light that you get. And I think if you get really good conditions like a really good sunset, sunrise, snow, frost, all those sort of things, doesn't really matter where you are, you can get something interesting. But when you're in flatter conditions, then you're really more reliant on the landscape to provide the heavy lifting and that's when it's more difficult. Um, so somebody said here, "What's your bucket list photography destination you've not visited yet? " There's an island just off Yemen that I'd quite like to go to. I was just speaking to a friend about that recently. Um, I can't remember the name of it. So Sak Sakor Sakra, don't know. I don't know what the name is. Um, but that looks pretty good. Um, South Korea I'd like to go to. Um, China I'd really like to go to. That's probably one of the top ones on my list. And I'm never going to go here because Russia is probably not a great place, but I'd really go like to go to the um west side of Russia. The landscapes there just looked absolutely No, the east side of Russia, sorry. They look absolutely amazing. Um, right. I'll answer a couple more questions and then I'm going to stop. I think um Nick said, "If I win a Nickon, I can see myself switching systems. " Nick uses Nickon, doesn't he? Am I wrong? Nick, I'm so sorry, but I thought you used Nikon. Maybe you're joking there. Haha, he is joking there. Um, sorry you didn't win. Um, if anybody doesn't watch Nick's videos, by the way, or see his photography, one of the best landscape photographers in the world, just go and check him out. Absolutely incredible. Um, and a top bloke, too. Uh, right, one more question. Okay. Um, there's just a lot of congratulations. That must be when I did the thing. Um, sorry, I'm really struggling to find a question that I've not answered before. Okay. So, what's the most noticeable difference between images from the Z72 and the Zed8? Well, to be honest, I think the Z72 is probably slightly better. Um, I think the dynamic range in it is just slightly better than the Z8. Um, I might have got that wrong, but I don't think I have. The best way to check that is just go on to um DP review or something like that where they've or just type in dynamic range. But I'm pretty sure that Z7 two sensors probably the best sensor that Nikon do. Um the Z8 to get a faster read off it. Um it's obviously a stack sensor and I think that degrades the dynamic range slightly. Um, so yeah, I mean it's nothing to worry about and if dynamic range is easy to overcome because you can bracket, can't you? But yeah, um, apart from that, I think it's pretty similar. Um, the noise is probably maybe a little bit better on the Z72 as well. Right, I think that's it. Thanks everybody. I really appreciate it. I genuinely am so thankful for everybody that's watched my videos over the years and um, I'm going to continue making them for as long as I can because I absolutely love doing it. Okay, thanks. And um Sunday I've got another one out, episode eight from the camper van series where I get probably my best photos. They're from the Lake District and it is incredible.