Kick Talk | Episode 27 ft. LAURENSHAYLA
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Kick Talk | Episode 27 ft. LAURENSHAYLA

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@LaurenShayLA links up with Andrew to chat about where streaming's at, and where it's headed. THE GUESTS ► https://kick.com/laurenshayla | https://twitter.com/laurenshay_la KICK TALK PODCAST ► https://www.youtube.com/@KickStreaming ► https://kick.com/eddie LINKS ► Kick Streaming X: https://twitter.com/KickStreaming ► Kick Community X: https://twitter.com/KickCommunity ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kickstreaming/ ► TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@kick.com ► Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kick ► Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/KickStreaming/ ► https://kickcommunity.com CHAPTERS

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Segment 1 (00:00 - 05:00)

but um Hey listen kit Community Awards what what's going on with it because it it's doing some stuff right I mean it's it's done for now we um I've definitely been um on a Cloud Nine kind of moment just resting on my Laurels resting on The community's Laurels rather um because a so much went into putting that event together we had it um pl we had it planned pretty much since we did the one just within my own Community um in 2023 which I also done the same thing on Twitch people probably weren't aware I done just little ways to acknowledge people in my community that been holding it down and doing different things and Spotlight them so it's always something I've tried to do to acknowledge other people however this is our first time incorporating the community as a whole and I would say that as a community uh within the limited resources and the reach that we do have on the platform I say we did a damn good job and that's not just for myself that's for the whole team everybody involved in this community on Kick as a whole so I think we did pretty good overall what you think listen I think um I think it was amazing I think the first year was amazing um give me one second I'm hitting this uh hey may we all right sweet um look we you know obviously people are running with the kick brand right um which is amazing right so I think that that's what I love about this industry is that look if I was at a network and someone just started doing like the NBC Awards or the CBS Awards or you know even like the Prime video presents Awards right and no one in Prime video knew about what was going on right like that's what I love about live streaming is that it's all community-led right and I think that that is the difference of how this media this generation of media is coming up people want who they can trust people want authenticity people want people who they can relate to people don't stepen colar is nice right but they know that he's reading off a teleprompter right Jimmy Fallon's a nice guy but they know he's reading off to teleprompter everyone off of The View right they all know that there's an agenda and they in somebody's pocket or something else like that right like I think that that's what's fascinating about live streaming so to give you a long- winded answer about what I love about what you're doing is that it's community-led it's yours you do what you want right but ju just like you were saying like you put in the work and you get out the rewards right so because I you know just to set chat straight right because I know that there's a lot of people out there that just like ah kick is just propping up Lauren sha and she just you know um they're rolling out the red carpet y Yad y that's not the case because what happens is that guys like me or networks or like me or organizations like me they we step in and we start to water it down now right now do we scale right do we do we look at it and we start to help you scale we want to help support you and things of that nature 100% but I think it's very important that you do this through your lens and you listen to your community the way that you want to listen to them and I think that's another thing is like you got a lot of static off the first year but guess what you seem to adapt to where you adjusted the show first of all you're not going to make everyone happy and but secondly you stayed true to who you were uh in the execution so that's what I think about the kick Community Awards and I think that thank you anybody do this I think that that's the thing it just takes Vision right and here's the other thing Lauren just didn't pop up on the scene on kick like Lauren's story arc from when she started on Kick to where she's at now is amazing the hero's journey or a hero in on again big time but um yeah I think I blabbed enough can you tell us a little bit about who you brought on with you before we start dragging them in here h Ely so one thing that we wanted to make sure that we did with this award show cuz some people don't know it was 43 categories long um again it was people from the community have given suggestions for like we want people from this uh we need a horror category because you didn't add horror we need a Valor and C okay cool just whatever people came to me and if it wasin reason and we could execute it we added it that's how we ended up with having like 40 plus different categories by the end of this thing um however it's something that really does take a

Segment 2 (05:00 - 10:00)

village like all of these wonderful things that we have here on this platform um we have to work together we have to have people that are on your team so I wanted to make sure that we formed just a uh we really had a pretty extensive team of people who presented uh people who got to give a big flowers to uh Dr beast mode who designed the award for the show got to give a shout out to retronic who did a lot of our clips for the nominees and so on and so forth and put a lot of time and effort into this um but I had to make sure that we included uh people like aof fuzz and sugar bears Club who were in the trenches with me uh going behind the scenes trying to make sure that we got everything um oh my God just all the mind you we had like 7,000 something votes and nominations and all these things and we had people spamming it was just it was some crazy stuff so we had to go through it took hour it took a couple days really um to sift through all these different duplicate votes and spam and just a whole lot of [ __ ] um all about using email processors and all that stuff so I have to make sure I give them their flowers um they also presented Awards during the show so I got to make sure that we uh show them some huge love and we also included uh some of the people who uh we de there's a long list of people who uh won in different categories again if you didn't receive an award this year didn't get enough votes this time you're all still absolutely phenomenal creative you didn't get nominated at all it doesn't take away from um how amazing that people are it's just good to see people come together in General on this uh so we have a few different uh winners in some different categories some that might have won multiple Awards some that won awards um within the community on the rise category that's that under 30 CCV um type of community that's still growing and developing branching out um and then we had uh some different Niche categories like podcasting and we also had Niche Creator we had a pools categ we had all types of things so we want to represent as many people as we could across the board and that is why a lot of these uh guests that will be joining us today uh were selected to be a part of this process hell yeah let's uh let's just start dragging people in now here I'll just drag them in um and then we'll just get we'll get the conversation started so um I got fuzz coming in I got Good Vibes Greg lazy Panda coming in I got sugar bears Club coming in I got Sweet Cakes 2112 coming in hell yeah yo yo yo audio check's good my man looking good hello yo yo how we doing good hell yeah all right and we got um we'll wait for the other two to pop on but uh I think lazy pandas coming in from Scotland and then um I think sugar bears should her cameras should be firing up what's up good to see y'all so Lauren this is your crew yes so ultimately I want to make sure that I say thank you guys for even um coming to be a part of this I know there was a lot of different people that were involved in this process but we wanted to make sure especially one of the big feedbacks that we get a lot of times um as partners and as just people in general on uh who've been on Kick to oh my God it's always Partners someone with a check mark and everybody has something to say about that um and I myself have had things to say about that where I'm like well I already go ahead sweet go ahead oh okay she um thep it's a team effort y'all um but I feel like the Affiliates are truly the heart of the platform so we do want to give the opportunity um to other people I've talked about this during my first discussion with you and Eddie when I came on Kick to back in August that I feel like there should be an Affiliates only episode or it should be affiliate verified partner whatever the case even just viewers if you could um to get everybody's different feedback on the platform and that way you can incorporate it and get all people's perspectives to increase the um growth of the platform and the functionality of it as a whole so that's the goal so I'm glad and I some you go be like oh well why wasn't I and why wasn't this well there's hopefully going to be a lot of opportunities um and this is a stepping stone to get more people who are affiliated and verified uh in this space or even non- streamers in this space as well so I think this is an awesome first step so thank you guys for joining us today yeah thank you for having us how about we just have you guys go around just tell chat a little bit about who you guys are um you know just real quick to comment on Lauren's Lauren stuff yet look kick to KI to's always evolving right always

Segment 3 (10:00 - 15:00)

evolving even to the point where we're kind of like all right do we do interviews more like this that are round table or do we do interviews that are more one-on-one or do we bring on three people and do one-on-one interviews right so we are still messing with the format like crazy we also we'll do a two-hour episode we'll do a 4H Hour episode we'll do five hour episode however we do at the you know look we've had everyone from sneako on to steamy streamers right um and I think steamy was unverified at the time we've had you know uh kick tournament Network as fast as we'll have on you know tips out you know the CEO of otk um you know we'll have Aurora Phoenix on who is a vtuber you know as fast as we'll have Aiden Ross on right so yes is it tough to get to everybody 100% but what I want to make it known is that um we're out there and we're trying and um you know episodes like this need to keep happening right um just like episodes like when we brought on Aiden sneo neon ice and and abs like that that those episodes need to happen also but what you're never going to have here guys is a PR manager meet with you guys first and say that you need to present yourself as X Y and Z or you're never going to have a PR manager sit there and give you a list of talking points so that we can push a narrative all right um what you what everyone gets is that you you're getting the same treatment that Aiden got and steamy streamers got and what we really want to have happen is you guys just to come on and speak your mind so that you represent the area that you're coming from right the your community the community you're coming from so um I think Lauren can speak to this we did the same thing with the phas program right so like the first class had people that had 10 CCV all the way up to 1500 CCV and they came from all different categories but what was important about that is that we heard from everybody so um this is why kick talk exists um and we're we just got to get better every week uh to Lauren's point but um yeah let's kick it off with uh sugar bears right uh yeah yeah in and introducing each other right I had the pleasure of meeting sugar bears at a dream hack uh and uh it was just it was awesome to meet her and then also she's got great fashion sents so uh let's just let's let's kick it over to her real quick I am sugar bears Club AKA sugar a lot of people call me sugar for short which is no problem um I am all about doing what you love remember you are somebody remembering you are somebody smile cuz even in people bad days people in your bad days if you make somebody smile it might brighten your day and far as stream goes I'm all over the place on streams yes I'm a variety streamer I talk a lot of crack I play a lot of sports games well mainly right now I only play 2K but I did dabble in all the other sports games and y'all know me also as when I first stepped on Kick I actually came to kick for the and because they handed me a WNBA category for me to pay the W mode Let's go so I can't wait for 3v3 unrival to the premiere on the 17th y ain't gonna hear me shut up about it so tell me a little bit uh more about that so when you first came on um who gave you the WNBA category how did that work out like did you just reach out to staff did staff come into your chat what was the story behind that I reached out to staff because on the purple side of things you only we only could stay in the regular male NBA 2K category they wouldn't give up with all the emails and everything they would not give a separation to the W mode so when thanks to Lauren fuzz they was like well why don't you write an email to see if you can get this category and lo and behold I wrote an email thanks to my nice AI generator when it comes to texting and writing emails 24 hours later got an email back when you have the two WNBA category hell yeah I fell off of it a little bit because I got a little

Segment 4 (15:00 - 20:00)

started getting a little bit upset that people started coming in telling me I'm in the wrong category and everything because the category has not been updated so cool working on you've been on Kick for a while you and OG so uh thanks so much for coming on the show Big Time appreciate it yeah but let me kick it over to Greg Good Vibes Greg he's got that energy drink going because it's early yeah I'm still waking up uh yeah you guys can call me Greg Good Vibes Greg um actually formerly known as Good Vibes official on Twitch um been streaming getting close to four years and uh I moved my community from twitch uh we were a RuneScape Community old school RuneScape and I know Eddie is an old school runescaper as well so I kind of thought that was interesting kind of coincidences right but uh yeah no I just been streaming on kid I mean respectfully I know on Twitch they gave me a platform but I did the math I was on a one you know an apartment myself they took like 14k away from me so when I saw yeah when I saw kick I was like why not go here guys and uh I know there's been you know struggles here and there right but uh you know I even asked my community last night I was like you guys still like it here right and they're like yeah no it's good so yeah hell yeah uh fuzz jump in man what's up guys My Name Is AO fuzz um content creator here over on Kick I moved uh from twitch uh because they were holding my money hostage so I moved over uh told my community said you know let's go try this kick thing and see what it's about uh came over here and I have not looked back since I deactivated my affiliate status over there on Twitch and said goodbye I'm over here moved over my FPS Community uh I like to play a little bit of variety games horror FPS uh I do a podcast um about mental health and just uh getting to know the streamer behind the camera kind of like we're doing now so um that's what I'm about and I've always just been a supporter of Good Vibes and good times and also you know just letting people know that the Affiliates are your bread and butter of this platform because without Affiliates you wouldn't have a lawren sh the other people on the platform that's very but that's just me no to totally agree 100% agree I mean I myself I know this is um I still am an affiliate I am not verified um the tough part for me is getting in the hours um and I know that that's uh an eye roll because I'm staff right but um I think it's important because like you guys have nine to fives you guys some might have families you might have families is on the way you might be getting married um you guys have a lot of stuff going on in life um and the point that I'm why I'm saying all that is that it is tough in life to get in front of a keyboard and camera and start producing your own content on your own right when you're doing it all on your own and then you have to put everything aside aside like the argument you had with your spouse or a bill that came in or you're late on some sort of thing or you got something to do or you know life's just hitting you like crazy and then you come in here and you got to put on a good face and you have to show out and it's even more demoralizing when you're grinding towards metrics um and you just feel like you can't get there right um so I totally hear everything that you're saying behind what you're saying um and we think about that you know every day so um you know from one podcast or another I'm going to kick it off to Lazy Panda to uh intro herself and then we'll round it out with Sweet Cakes hi I'm Panda um so I've been on Kake for just over a year and a half I started off as a variety streamer and kind of moved into horror being my focus at the beginning of last year and then around about April last year I started up kick conversations which is a weekly podcast where I feature a different kick streamer and we talk about we showcase them we talk about kick as a platform the Goods the bads we talk about streaming in general um we keep it really conversational hence the name um and um I was lucky enough to win podcaster of the year at Len's lovely um Awards um and yeah that's me okay ready ready okay so my name is Sweet Cakes you guys can call me sweet but I was over on Twitch first I was very small but I mean we lose friends we gained friends I

Segment 5 (20:00 - 25:00)

didn't really grow on Twitch so I did the switch to fully Go full kick obviously not everybody is a fan of kick I was like you know what you guys don't have to follow me but I'm going to do this and we're going to pretty much Rebrand and here I am now I stream variety I'm a horror streamer I do just chatting I dance with both B I'm pretty sure everybody knows Bobo you know he has a little the boobies okay but we do a lot of I just have fun with it to be honest I just but that's it I mean just have fun with it I that's me and a nutshell literally but it was nice to be on there yeah oh yeah so um Lauren tell us a little bit about um k Community Awards what these guys mean um to the kiit community Awards and and why they get on your radar right and why you think people you know whe whether they're staff or they won an award like you know why do you think people started voting for them right and 7,000 votes coming in and people you know the community responding so um tell us what these guys mean to the to the K Ki Community as a whole your thing so in my opinion it's kind of like circles back to what fuzz says um the Affiliates are the um heart of the community they make up the majority of the people who stream here uh I'm not sure if there's more streamers or viewers in this platform world I feel like there's got to be more viewers than streamers however um it's mostly Affiliates and then we also have our verified level streamers and you have Partners kcip all that kind of different stuff right so I feel like the award show as a whole we tried to make sure that we had C ories that would intentionally um incorporate all types of people so there are categories like the kcip created the year or the verified Shimmer of the year and there's also a category for example like um my girl uh Sweet Cakes was the winner in this category for Community On The Rise that was one curated for people that are currently doing under 30 uh CCV on an average uh to try to make sure that we highlight people it's only for Affiliates um to highlight those people that sometimes might not always be on the front page or might not always uh feel like sometimes you feel overlooked even there have been times myself in certain situations when I've felt overlooked or it's like dang I'm doing all this and that and I they ain't showing us but you know but you can't uh get caught up in that um you have to be in love with what you're doing as um as fun before anything else I feel like people get caught up in numbers and all these different things and I got to get kcip because I got I gotta make them all that kind of stuff um so it's supposed to just reflect somebody who is On The Rise who is having fun um where they're at and also looking uh to grow and continue to develop so I believe a lot of the people like uh sweets and also Triggs was another person who got like The Rising Star Wars someone who's standing out he is a verified streamer I didn't know who the hell he was honestly until uh I got to uh start facilitating this show and I think that's another bit of feedback that I got was um oh it's just people that you like I'm like I know these people like a l these people genuinely did not know but I got the opportunity to discover them uh by doing it somebody named conquer Stone in my own chat I had no idea who he was he's from Brazil um he's become one of my favorite people just because I've got to interact with him through this so it's a great way not only for um us to come together celebrate each other's achievements but to connect with other streamers that we might not be familiar with uh so I definitely think that people caught on to this the ones that wanted to the people whose Community uh you know just cared enough to participate the like I can always say these Awards only they only have as much value as you place on to them this is a streaming award show this is not the Grammys Oscars it's a it's something that we made on canva with art and did all these beautiful things and it's a great way to see people um you know come together and do all that stuff but at the end of the day if you don't give a damn about it you don't have to um there was some feedback we got like why didn't Aiden rth win this and why didn't because Aiden rth Community didn't vote they they didn't care vote um so and so's Community they didn't care the voter some of them spam voted and cheated and we had to get rid of all their cheats and they still won with the votes that they did you know what it's all what you put into it so I love seeing uh lazy Panda clearly has a community around her that sees what she's doing with the and there were some awesome podcasters like sin x was also in that category and bull fuz Q they're amazing people um but lazy Panda just JY her community came out and had the most votes what can you say um because if don't go by numerical genuine votes then

Segment 6 (25:00 - 30:00)

it's oh Lauren is just picking who uh she wants and now you have a real issue so we can only go by what we're seeing and in your community steps up and support you to get you two uh Awards Good Vibes Greg got two different categories of Good Vibrations and remind me of the second boss uh jack of all trades that's a variety shammer who's doing a lot of different things so there was I feel like there was something for damn near anybody we had slots uh category had a pools category we had um Gaming Community the year IRL of the year I mean it was so many different um categories so the people that Community showed up uh supported them all that beautiful stuff shout out to you guys shout out to the community around you um this event was framed as kick Community Awards not kick streamer Awards because it was supposed to also reflect the people who um are in your personal Community who um make this platform what it is because without people coming to support us we just streaming to ourselves and I guess you can just have the camera off at that point um so yes and then of course I gotta also give acknowledgement again to sugar and fuzz maybe they can speak to this as well they uh were um inspired to do their own uh affiliate level only award show earlier this year and it was absolutely phenomenal and they invited me to come on as a third host and I was so proud to be a part of that uh but just seeing them making sure that Affiliates get highlighted and get some sort of uh shine and acknowledgement on the platform I that was a very beautiful sentiment because again they are the majority of the platform um I see a lot I'm sure we all see it on Twitter we see uh favoritism or this person I've been here for 34 years and kick been around for two years and somehow you've been for 34 and ain't nobody seen you and ain't nobody this and all that other drama and all that you know all the stuff uh so I just feel like the more we share this platform the more you meet uh new people and embrace one another uh we can continue to grow together uh and move forward so thank you guys again for your help fuzz and sugar huge help yeah it was fun times so I got I got a question for you guys collectively right um okay so the Lauren hit on a lot of different things right um about your community and the platform paying attention to you and I'm affiliate I'm verified I'm this I'm that blah blah and it's ever since I was on the other platform this has been always an ongoing conversation right like how much is it on the platform and streamer community and how much is it just life right so what are you guys's thoughts on like the streamer journey and where you guys are going because he look when money comes into play whether it be kcip or subscriptions or sponsorships or donations or whatever however you guys are making your living we're still doing it in a capitalism framework and the capitalism framework is that the cream Rises to the top right um all that stuff right um that's capitalism right but then you have the Humane aspect which live streaming has which is community right which is everyone's getting together I think what one thing that's amazing about the show and I think I saw ocean AR Gatsby comment on it in chat which was the most amazing thing about this stuff is that the communities come together and get to know each other and people and PE you get to know more people right but then when people start saying all right well kick should Elevate everybody on the community like that starts dipping into more of the socialistic type of Vibes right which is kind of counter to what capitalism is right and in the current system we're in and I'm asking like a kind setting up a deep prolific question because this is the reality of stuff that we're in right um and then so the way I always comment about this and break it down is I'm like well you shouldn't be waiting for the platform to give you your flowers your community should be giving you your flowers right like where are you comfortable right do you want to be doing 30k CCV like xqc or are you comfortable with like a hey it's Ruff that has 500 CCV but is able to sustain himself because of his subscriptions or are you happy at you know your 30 CCV to 100 CCV like steamy streamers right who who Who's able to be doing or like amaz who you know raps and sings and plays GTA and and his community comes up and lifts him up so I'm just asking like where do you find this balance in the world of capitalism this

Segment 7 (30:00 - 35:00)

idea of socialism this idea of community this idea of the cream rise the top and pay attention to me like how do you guys H tackle it so I'm GNA speak for both of us in a second speaking on the um award show that we did for the Affiliates that's the reason why we did it um we did it because we noticed there was a little bit of a gap of discoverability um there are people that just like to Vibe and have a good time with me that's what I like to do I don't care if I have two people watching me zero people watching me I just want to have a good time and Vibe out that's the reason why we wanted to do that affiliate level um award show is to get those affiliate communities together um have that Community voting and see where it could go and maybe discover some people within the community that um you haven't discovered before because like I like you know we all know in here kick is a big platform we might say it's not a big platform it's a big platform there's so many people streaming that I didn't even know streamed that I met through the these award shows and got to create Good Vibes and Good Times um and for me personally speaking on like the you know socialism and all that stuff like it's I just want to have a good time and stream um the money for me the money's never been there look I still have Founders badges so that tells you how much about not the money I'm about all right I still have Founders badges in my chat all right so um that's basically where it comes from is me and Suge just wanted to create something and really pay homage to what Lauren was doing but do it in a little bit of a bigger scale and in a bigger way for the Affiliates um where we felt it was you know honest genuine and didn't H wasn't going to have any backlash because we did Community voting it wasn't something that we just went oh you know what I think Lauren deserves an award today we're going to give her one it um it was it was that so hope that answered that question I think um it kind of comes down to the perception because we all live in different realities right some of us may have full-time jobs full you know might be a full-time parent I am a single male uh and I went full-time last year so I don't have really too much responsibilities in my life but I do have that perception reality where I do have to activate my community to keep going through my daily life uh whether it's through gifted or kcip um so I do think you do have to put the work in like you know I do believe that the cream will rise the top if you want to put your work into that um I think it just comes down to different streamers because like to you fuz right you're like hey I'm just chilling I'm just hanging out um but I think comes down to also like culture and that's what the kick Community award show just is doing uh Lauren Shay you were like one of the first friendly faces when I popped into the community or uh into the platform in the very beginning thank so to me it kind of makes sense I'm like oh Lauren's been running the show for two years which I mean other people can for sure too but it makes sense that Lauren's been doing it you've been but you've been friendly so to so many people that you know I know we have like Aiden and ice and everybody but on this type of level to this is where the culture is starting like almost like Justin TV so well I'm a full-time parent so I have three kids of my own so me finding the time cuz I'm not a full-time streamer I stream only what Wednesdays Fridays and Saturdays I keep my days my off days for my kids my family and then also I do have time for my community so people are be like well how do you make time well I make the time I try to find ways to be creative ways to make things fun for me with everybody that I Vibe out in my community so I mean we're I'm still growing I'm still learning this whole streaming thing so it's still a learning curve we're all learning together so I mean doing the whole events that little that wiow bears does also helps Branch out and meet everybody so it's like I meet different people every day I mean collabing with different people it's just it's really just have fun with it I stopped ignoring the numbers a long time ago because if not then I'm going to make myself go crazy cuz like come on I it would be nice to get verified but my day will come so we you know it's just we're just gonna have fun and just do what I want to do that's it yeah if you don't mind me asking how long how long you've been streaming um well see I streamed on Twitch for a year and then so pretty much two three years almost already

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so I've been strictly on kick now for a year almost going to be two years already yep I lo I lost many friends because of the switch but are they really friends probably not so and I made new ones on the long and like on the way here so I'm happy that you it's a little competitive too on comptitive I think it's kind hard to make friends because everyone's so worried about their revenue as well just say why her why not me is what I got the whole entire time I was on Twitch I got here it's like we all can grow together like why not do it together can I mean it's everybody like that's the goal and I feel cuz it's not overly saturated where I feel like there are so many people doing so many similar things over on Twitch just not a bash twitch day you know I'm I've made peace with my Twi anti twitch how Sant Mar but yes I agree with you it was more clickish experience at first and just how Santa Maria said we have to adapt and uh I I'm a Cod player okay that's where I started off on a PlayStation a PS4 all right on Twitch and I did marbles on stream and then I did COD and I was like you know what let me just do just chatting and do what I and look at it it's we just have fun to be honest like I do freaking where's my grandpa mask at that I'm he I met Santa Maria at dream hack with my grandpa mask on so it's like I put my own personality in my streams and that's why I that's I love it I mean I'm like this on stream off stream that I have not changed okay so that okay so I I came over from Amazon twitch prime gaming Amazon games um and then Amazon entertainment when they bought out MGM um what I can tell you is that I would never be able to stream like this or answer questions like this or do anything like this on that platform there's no one can I don't care what level of executive or staffer you are you ain't doing it like this guarant gued all right I my question to you guys is so that we can learn here at kick what is your interaction with other platform staff versus kick staff like what are other platform staff doing better and what is K what can kick staff do to improve and not necessarily how are we doing things better but how are they doing things better so that we can adapt like when you talk with someone at Tik Tok or twitch Facebook or when you talk with someone at [ __ ] even like a place like livespace that that had just started up right rest in peace right like party too isn't there another one there's I don't know there there's a t of there's dive there's Africa TV there is R there's Rumble so Africa yeah um no yeah um so what are I I'm in a wrong place what are they doing right that we need to adapt like what's your experience with other staff members on other platforms versus I don't even think I experienced a staff member on Twitch like at all that's my answer I don't even think I'm still with anybody on Twitch like I've experienced a kick staff on my and we it great but twitch there no so I'm going say this right now shout out to Bob kick um because he's came in and said hello there's I think on this platform um staff is there if you need something it's less than a 30- minute response time on other platforms they should really take note to be honest with you um because whenever you need something and I don't know for any of the streamers that are in here and they could pop off and say it too whenever we've had an issue or something's gone wrong with our stream or something's going on staff is there with an in yeah with a live chat or even with you know sending an email and it gets responded right away um I don't think there's nothing you need to change just keep having that authent authenticity to like be there for the streamers especially our Affiliates new to the platform they have a lot of questions there's sometimes we feel a little bit you know like nervous about going up and let's say if you know just Lauren for instance hey Lauren how do you set up obs you know they they're afraid to do that where they can reach out and have the resources right on the

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website to be able to do that so just I wouldn't change it go ahead sorry no they'll change your categories for you too like if you're not even in the right category they'll do that [ __ ] they don't do that [ __ ] on Twitch it would be great it's like oh you're on just chat oh well I didn't know I don't have the experience with staff on Twitch but I've spoken to many creators on conversations who have and it's one of the things that gets brought up a lot is that on on Twitch and any other platform that people have streamed on like you can never speak to a real person or get any kind of real support and that was a big big positive when they moved over to kick it's spoken about almost every week yeah it's like a three-month response time over on the uh twitch kick it's 30 3 three minutes yeah even their Big Time creators I see keep getting banned you know through articles like 7-Day bands three days bands and they went on the twitch was all on holiday and this guy couldn't get his band lifted even though it was not in his fault um I mean that speaks levels right versus where I'm here I oh [ __ ] I need something I just message put a support ticket in and boom 10 minutes 15 minutes yeah no M even whether it's a new category to be added I've had them come in and help with some particularly vile trolls whether youed whatever it might be they're there even if you just want to say hi they're so good there yeah good good I'm that makes me really happy to hear we did put a big emphasis on you know I think when I first came in I was just like I didn't like the fact that I couldn't I had to go in as somebody else and talk with them very early on Kick CU we didn't I didn't know the lay of the land space I didn't know what we wanted to do because I'd never done it I went in very early on with the alt account and talked with people right um very early on and then and I started realizing I'm like we need to just be able to talk with these guys we this is all Intel that we need to just be able to go in and say what can we do better how's your day going and look Eddie was all for it Eddie was like look as long as we take keep politics and religion out of it like let's do it right um and like I think that helped the scale like crazy was going into other people's chat with a kick staff badge and just saying how's your day going what can we do better you know um what we need to get better at is the product and everyone knows that right everyone knows that we need Channel points and API and and kicks and all the like and all that is coming but one thing that we did one thing we do know is that all right while that is happening we can step up our game on customer service accessibility we can step up our game on um being transparent so um I think that while our product catches up I think that um we realize will follow yeah everything will follow we realize look Dan Clancy has said one correct thing since I've left that platform is that twitch has a community they have a community and you cannot purchase the community um you know all the big signings that we did that's leasing communities we're essentially leasing communities so when you hear someone like AO fuzz say verified streamers is the lifeblood of kick that's 100% otherwise you're working with creators that can pick up their ball and walk away at any time all right so but on the flip end when you're working with creators that you signed and brought over it's up to you to have make them fall in love with the platform right like I genuinely feel like xqc has fallen in love with kick I genuinely feel like Aiden Ross has fallen in love with kick you know like the idea of Kick the movement of kick same with train wreck right um but however you know we are also looking for homegrown Talent you know to come up and come through the ranks so but listen um that was my one question to you guys about like how do you guys balance like the socialism aspect of kick versus like the capitalistic aspect of rising to the top but um would love to take questions from you guys or just you know dump any Hot Topics that you guys have into this uh Round Table um because that that's what we're here for is to um to get some clips out of this uh and to and to to educate some fol can I quickly answer the one that you asked before yeah a chance to answer I I've got I come from quite a unique spot when it come when it comes to the money the balance and the money in the community side of things because um I do stream fulltime and I full I streamed full time from the beginning but it was because I had to give up my my career and because of health conditions and I

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had to find something where I was self-employed and it was flexible around my health um and I tried a few different things and this is this was the one that stuck for me I was streaming as a hobby um on Twitch with my best friend doing a Duo stream before so I knew a little bit about it um so I stream full time but I I'm not like other people who wait until they're making good money before they start streaming full time I started streaming full time making nothing um so my whole content creation life revolves around putting the work into all the different platforms not just kick you know I spend a lot of time working on Tik Tok and YouTube and anywhere where there's a monetization possibility um Kick is home for me everybody knows that I love it here and obviously kcip is another goal for me and verified that would help with that um but it it does put you in a in a difficult spot you know sometimes I struggle to balance where what where I put my my time and energy um uh I'm working towards it so yeah that's just my that's where I'm at real quick to follow up on that because I hear a lot look I appreciate everyone who's like I'm full-time kick I appreciate that and here's the other thing like I there was a time when I left the other platform where I felt a little burned right like damn like you know H how did I last there for so long right what was I doing over there like I don't ever want to look back on that ever right but I think what you have to realize is that we're in a very different time there's no better time to be a streamer you have so many different options guys you have so many different ways to earn a revenue stream right whether it's a Tik Tok Revenue stream a YouTube shs Revenue stream just simply posting images to Instagram Revenue stream you know uh and that's tough to do right like to download your VOD and start making short form content long form content um to start to do like Graphics to do all the work to make just to [ __ ] just to even make a thumbnail right to make a catchy thumbnail to think of a a catchy headline to drop on this thumbnail the whole nine yards that is work right so like my point in saying all this and what your comment was about do you know am I on Tik Tok am I on Instagram what do I do you have like if you're streaming for six hours a day you have to stream for only three and the other three you have to produce your content all right is like anybody can be a streamer pretty much but you have to put in the work you got but here's my point about the money and the revenue streams is that our aim is that kick is the best place to make your Revenue splits um whether okay let's say I'm not okay look I'm not on kcip all right yeah but while you're on Tik Tok or while you're on Twitch YouTube like don't have like tell be honest with your community like I'm simoc casting right now but please come to my kick where I get 95% all right keep simoc casting keep grinding but just realize that Revenue stream is bigger on Kick right while you're pulling in your audience elsewhere and then as you grow your community then you start to adapt where you're moving your chest pieces same thing with Tik Tok right like same thing with X like if you clip and you post a x and you get a small Revenue stream off of that right um and then when you get into kcip it's the same game right where you're like I got to up my metrics right but communicating across the board on all the platforms that you're use is important now getting back to like feeling one way or another about another platform you have to start looking at them as a tool right you have to in my opinion gosh I don't want to fire up my Twitch account I cannot stand those people they freaking let a good one go and F those people right but here's the deal you might have a pool of people like and pull over like two or three people a week to your kick Channel where they're like oh [ __ ] I forgot about Good Vibes Greg where he been right and you're like I'm here but I'm cooking over here guys come on over right and just every now and then just pop in say hey right um and that goes for all of your social media handles because they can all turn into a revenue stream but kick is what's going to differentiate kick in my opinion is uh a community staff service all that stuff but I think it's the revenue splits the way that we do the revenue splits and the way you work up into earning your way up into like making kick your exclusive platform but in the meantime use all the revenue streams to your to your benefit if that makes sense yeah so when I multistream when I live stream to Tik Tok and to YouTube

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well um that the live streaming side of it for me is all about funneling people over to kick and the Tik Tok side of that's gone really well for me a good chunk of my community now have come from Tik Tok and they've also they downloaded Kick through my Tik Tok and they now I see them in other people's communities modding for other people and I love the aspect of it it's it's the posting content um on those platforms that that I do to and one more comment around what you just said about Tik Tok you Tik Tok is on the ropes right in the states if you don't think that YouTube isn't slinging their algorithm around for you guys it is right is I've already noticed it if you're sleeping on YouTube shorts right you got to get on YouTube shorts because the exposure right now and like they're they see Tik Tok on the ropes if they see lazy panda fire up on YouTube and they see that she has a Tik Tok account guess what they're going to be doing slinging lazy Panda around to so that to retain her viewers and bring them over from Tik Tok and then on the flip side you're driving traffic to kick right like it's like understanding that market that balance right also and just saying you know what I can't stand you two but their algorithms off the chart because of what's going on with Tik Tok right now not myself yeah no kidding speaking on like the content making um you always want to post it to every platform you can even as a like a small non you know not wellestablished streamer um putting your content on anything that you can put on even if it's just a clip of saying hey come check out me out live on Kick it's going to help you out in the long run um I've kind of fallen off on that haven't you know teach what I Don't Preach you know what I mean I've fallen off on post of that stuff but anything you can really post on does help and not calling out is content I she needs to start posting her stuff yes anything and everything is content even like this the simplest Clips you have post it post it% be gaming posting just post anything that your committee and it'll just reach out just show who you are as a person and they can see like it just post anything I think that's important what you just said though because I think that a lot of people hold back on putting themselves out there right because they feel awkward about it or they're like this is cringe this isn't what I think it's going to be and here's the thing is nine times out of 10 it ain't going to be what you think it's going to be but what's important is that you get the butterflies out right like you get you your first 20 posts are going to be so like nerve-wracking and cringe and like weird and whatever else but like once you start putting yourself out and you start seeing the response that you're getting like you need to adapt I think where a lot of streamers fall is when they don't get the response that they want and they start getting resentful angry I used to be like that they get start getting really resentful and they're like wait I think this is brilliant the best thing since s bread and it's like it is but you got to just listen to the comments no matter how hard they are to take or how many people you think are trolling you and you just have to be self-reflective keep putting yourself out there and adapting but do not fall into resentful land because then you start getting people who are um calling each other out well why is this person doing it and I can't get away with it and then this and that and then you start calling out the platform like favoritism and it's the algorithm and you don't want to push me and you have a conspiracy thing against me and all of a sudden you're a 20 viewer CC TV person who thinks that uh Tik Tok is U putting all their staff might against you which is wild like you're on their radar which is wild right and you're wasting your time in your resentment and then on the flip side sometimes you have communities who are gassing these people up who are like yeah they hate you they can't stand you they like justice for soand so right and it's like what had just happened like what kind of echo chamber did you just create for yourself right so I think that I think that's the important part is when you're creating content out there and it's not hitting the way that you want that you got to present you got to prevent yourself from going into resentment mode that's how I was I used to hold back a lot like I was like maybe if I show myself too much they'll be like maybe she's too hyper for us I was like you know what [ __ ] it I'm just going to do show who I am and right if they don't like it they can just unfollow and leave like go find someone else and there's a way to go about it sweets as well that's not um

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it's not to say you have to be have to speak in a certain way and I get freedom of speech and all that other stuff um and freedom of speech does come with consequences depending on what you say or does come with reactions um however there is a way to self- advocate for yourself uh for the platform in a way that is solution focused offer suggestion and it's not just a straight up bash session or uh one of the things that I can't stand is often we pull other people's information where it's like oh well this person's doing this and why don't I have this and it's like well why instead of worrying about what the [ __ ] somebody else is doing why don't we just worry about what you're doing and trying to promote that like who cares what other people have going unless it's you know something that's put in the actual community in danger or somebody's being insane or something like that there only so much that you can control so I get people want to have their I want to out people and I want to be of the I call them witch Hunters or whatever you want be and I get it um but eventually you run out of content like that as well when you put all the to the flame and everybody's on fire and everybody still enjoying that community and having a good time with them you know what do you have left uh so I really do think that um as a whole yes there is a it's not to say that you know especially a lot of Partners oh we're all sheep oh we all everybody had to suck dick to get to this position and all this good stuff I'm sorry I'm not that filtered and I'm not that Co with my words all the time but um are a lot of great people in this space that really are grinding really are uh have worked and put in time for the things that they do have um so to try to discredit those people just because you're having a personal Vendetta or problem is crazy to me and a lot of times we see people who had nothing to say as long as things were good with them personally um and they were happy and they were doing the numbers they wanted to do and life was just their perfect bubble they didn't have [ __ ] to say um but once things start to now Veer left did not go your way now you have a lot of things to say and to me that's not being Community focused forward that's being you forward um and one thing that we've always tried to do and I think that my character can attest to this just by even the people that are here alongside with me today I feel like it's attestment on my characters to the platforms and to everybody else here um is that we are Community focused and we do try to include other people has not always just been oh I want to come up and I want to do this it's okay I see me kind of grinding and doing things that I can't do without people so how do we continue to build together and grow together so even when I am good and my platform is good and my community is solid when people come to me and they say well hey why is so and so getting um partner and they only got 12 CCV and all that i' be like you know what H that might be a that might be something to address let's ask let's talk about let's have discussion um so I'm never content in my um my own bubble I'm always trying to listen to what people are saying and try to offer Solutions so I think we could all try to do that maybe yeah all about education M look I keep my expectations low so that I don't get disappointed why I'm so happy my life same here I if you accept so much from everybody you're going to be disappointed the rest of your life that's how I see it there you go like you start stream if you have one person [ __ ] think you have like 10 people in stream just talk don't just sit there quietly cuz I did that before I talked to five people on my twitch stream like it sucks but I'm like what can I change to make it better is how I see it so I was like well [ __ ] let me just show him I can do this let's put in the work and then it it'll come after so yeah and it doesn't hurt to try something new it never hurts even if it's something you're uncomfortable with like I'm going to do a Pools and Hot Tub stream never done that before we're going to try it does it doesn't hurt uh you know I will make sure that I wear my string bikini for Santa Maria um wait a minute minut I think we saw Good Vibes Greg in a bikini right we seen him in that cosplay that resent evil there so funny enough you know him as well some of you guys may know him Eric 617 he's actually in my living room right now and he came over to hang out and we did a yeah we did a little sub goal and I got pied in the face so that was fun I did want to go did you oh great okay did I go oh so go back to the previous though and it's kind of ironic that kick made me a strong Creator based because kick doesn't have all these features yet but going back to YouTube right Clips going live YouTube shorts you know making sure that people are popping your stream and creating that loyalty because that 955 split but YouTube gives you your analytics too for any streamer in here you kind of want to know your demographic is kick gonna bring that to us in a dashboard it's a must it's an it's an

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must it's a must it's an it's an absolute must um the short answer is yes um when is that going to happen I don't know um but what I can say is that we're cooking on it is definitely on the road map it's something that look it's a basic it's a ba how many unique [ __ ] shatters do I have it's a ba it's a basic need right it's a matter of coding it producing the product it's a matter of laying it out and getting a proper UI around it however we also got to get an API out uh and you know you guys just saw an update to the UI to the dashboard right um and I'm sure a lot of people I look I I'm in meetings and I'm kind of like guys it's awesome that we're doing a UI to the dashboard but no one gives a [ __ ] about that they want to see metrics oh love you oh we have a different Hue of green fantastic right like oh we have squared off Corners instead of rounded off Corners beautiful you know what I want to see is at what time during the day did my [ __ ] chat pop off yeah we definitely need more stuff that way when I throw on a bikini and play beer pong you know when I throw on a hot pink bikini and play be beer pong do I see a spike is that something I saw a spike I'll tell you that you saw a spike right I saw a spike I tell you that so what 100 100% you have a staff member here that is shouting this stuff out at the top of the hill not only that like for verified people right like let's take kcip right how do I increase my rate what are you guys looking for right you don't have to give me the secret formula we'll never give you the secret formula no platform is going to give you the secret for formula twitch is not going to tell you how they give 50/50 verse 7030 different who they pick and choose they're not going to tell you how they demonetize one category and monetize the other they're not going to tell you any of that YouTube is not going to share with you right who's making more money on running fullon ads versus who's running skippable ads Tik Tok is never going to tell you how they run their metrics and how they pay out they're not going to but what these other platforms do is they tell you how you at least can increase your rate and what they're looking for right so that's what we got to do better if we value unique Chatters then we should put it in the dashboard this is how you're going to make a little bit more money if you have unique Chatters if we value organic traffic in my opinion we should show you the offset of inorganic traffic you have and then adjust your kcip accordingly and reward you for not botting yourself or for not tabing yourself up or for not doing follow for follow or not doing all the [ __ ] things that we know that you're doing and then Fain ignorance on on social media right so yes I could go on and on about how our dashboard needs to be better and we know it internally what I can say is that it is coming right it is on our radar are right it is something that is a focus but there are bigger things that we need to get out like an API Channel points different payment methods those things are coming out first but I promise you working up to the dashboard is something now the resources like where my head is at is like guys like let's not revamp a UI until we have all this other stuff out like with the metrics I'm not the head of product but I do chirp in like that all right did I answer your question yeah yes sweet yeah I did have a question though I wanted to ask you about um and maybe something you could put into somebody's ear I did want to ask if you would make maybe like a YouTube short content for kick maybe on the app or on the TV side to kind of generate some traffic um to the other streamers like content that they make all right so you mean to have uh a portion of kick where you can upload a video um look um I think Eddie has talked about this uh I don't think we're going to be doing like fullon vods right like let's say you take your VOD down you re-edit it and you repost it right so that you don't have a 4H hour VOD you just have your highlights the 13 minute thing and you've if you you've gased it up a little and you can share it around um I don't think we're going to be doing that I think we're going to be focused just on live streaming what I am advocating for is I think that we should have an

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uploadable video I think uh of of the intro video right I think everyone should have an intro video for when your account is dormant that you have a reel that introduces who you are oh like uh the trailer like on Twitch right yeah exactly I think that is needed one other point that I will make around uploadable stuff I don't I don't think we're going to go in the direction of full-on uploaded vods however I do think that the clipping culture is the new thing I do think that if you create a clip that you've put a lot of effort into and you're sharing it I do think that should be uploadable and that way shared across kick and shared across social media I think that there should be some sort of linking to when you post it to Tik Tok or post it to Twitter to drive traffic I think that that's the new thing I think I understand like and I think that answers our question of like housing all these vods where you're already housing them on YouTube let's house clips that generate the same amount of traffic exposure right but I also think that there's should be a way I don't like our clip system right now which is just like the clip with the highest views gets it like I think those should be voted on you know that that's my opinion uh would there ever be a case where you'd actually have Clips where it's like home browse and following would like actually could a clip Page live there so you could more front page yeah into the front page plat yeah I want that and I think we should just because here's the thing like the oh grandpa went away that thing's got hot that takes commitment um right so I think okay to a bigger Nuance to that question around clipping is that and I learned this through kick Clips like the last episode um who was educating us on clipping he says that kick has a much bigger clipping culture than any other platform that you know if you look at the neon Clips or the Aiden Clips or the ice Poseidon Clips or the Sam Clips or the ABS clip or the alib Boba Clips or the big eclips or the whatever like streamers are becoming more Savvy and saying I got to get a clip channel right I got to start pushing that according to kick Clips he says that is very unique to kick because I asked him I was like what's the clipping culture on Twitch Tik Tok what's the clipping he goes it's not at the level of Storytelling that it is on Kick so I think in my opinion I think that we need to take advantage of that culture so I my focus would be more on Clips rather than vods yeah we just want to be able to download our vods too I think in an easier way would man like right now what you don't like to go to JJ downloader and using that never I've never done it I let my little VOD go off and but then I look back and I'm like dang I should have kept my VOD from my gender reveal I could dream hack but I just I've never I'm not that kind of girl look uh so we got aabs in chat he's saying just use kickl it it's easy so like look there are downloadable options where kick kickl you can use I know like stream charts has a thing where you can just take your link and drop it in and it downloads um there are platforms out there that you just take your link whether it's a clip or a VOD and you just download it right I think it's important that you download your MPV or your MP4 or your MO and just keep it in the folder until you can do something with it because you're right once the 30 days is up it's gone right yeah all right what else you guys got I know we got I know I know y all got deeper questions I know you got get give us some hard-hitting like [ __ ] well I have a few different questions from people in chat but I wanted other people to have the opportunity to oh yeah for sure speak my chat's being shy so they I brought the mask out and they're like yeah full send it but no that's scary well I I'll pose one real quick from um from Dr beast mode who was in my chat and I'm yes if y'all are asking the questions I'm letting them know who they're from just where but Dr beast mode he actually had uh two questions but I want to start with his first one that I think a lot of people have uh some feedback for this uh do you believe and this can be for Santa this could really be for everybody uh do you believe the CCV metrics for verification should be a requirement metric it's been the most

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controversial especially when meeting all other metrics for almost the entire time on the platform what are your thoughts overall and I think this stems from people that do get verified possibly without hitting that metric or maybe having been holding on to that one as long because if we are if we say for example I'm partially answering the question as well just from my own perspective but just if you're having certain people that do have lower than the required CCV still getting verified and possibly still getting kcip um and it's inclusive and it represents different type of people because if it's somebody that's just good for the brand or they're doing their big one or whatever the case may be and kick want to have them then um but I guess how much weight are we going to give to that because that's always people are sometimes scared to even come out and say they got kcip cuz then people go dig through their metrics oh my God she was only averaging 34 CCB how dare they but I'm doing a hundred like whatever the case may be so you know what can we do to make it more fair across the board when it comes to the CCV metric and people getting verified what do y'all think so with that like are you guys still going to do with the hosting will it be implemented or not with the verification like that's one that I'm still in the fence about cuz we get hosted a lot so I don't know how that's going to play out on that one all right so this is what I can say Okay um okay yes eventually that's going to go away that hosting is not going to affect like we're going to take hosting into account that has already been approved by the big dog right that's dogs um now is a matter of our middle management um starting to readjust that metric when they start bringing people in because look it ain't same thing with the hours too like we put so many hours and like our numbers don't go up with the viewer count all that's that's totally different like that's listen if you're getting hosted like I think that should be counted 100% yes the higher ups feel that should be counted now the hours not really but no let me tell you why cuz that's just mismanagement of your time look if you're doing 10 hours a day and you're doing 20 CCV stop stop and you're trying to build to something else like if you don't care then who cares yeah yeah but if you look if you're the type of streamer you're like I don't look at the numbers I don't care I'm here to Vibe with my community fine but if you're trying to grind to something right because this is business now we're talking about business this is what I'm my original com which was capitalism versus Community okay so now we're talking about Community where it's just like I want a Vibe I don't care if I got 20 CCV but [ __ ] why can't I get verification now we've crossed over into business capitalism so there's a very different answer to this all right if you were grinding for 10 hours a day at 20 CCV stop all right what you got to do is you have to stream for two hours sit and think about what the [ __ ] you just did for an hour and why you're not growing and then formulate a game plan the next hour and then the next three hours you need to start executing that's what you needed to start doing with the 10 hours of your day all right the other thing you also need to do is say all right I'm going to grind when I hit 20 CCV if I hit 30 CCV I'm cutting it off as painful as that is and I'm leaving people wanting more right and then I'm firing up again right and I'm only to gr I'm only going to stream for another two hours right but I'm going to keep working my average up and up and up because the more hours that you have going against your CCV that lowers your average right so if you're doing 20 CCV over 10 hours your average is only going to stay at 20 right but if you're doing two hours and you hit 30 CCV for a good 30 minutes of that time and you kill it then you only have two hours going into your 30 CCV maximizing and upping your your CCV all right this is what I'm talking about the difference between capitalism right getting the check mark getting the kcip hitting your metrics versus Community you know what I'm just here to VI I'm here to play COD I here to have a good time and here to get in a bikini and smoke some joints that's all

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I want to do man right well if that's what you want to do and then you want to start bitching about verification you have to put on your business hat I'm sorry you do right because at the end of the day you're going to start getting paid let me tell you another thing there's going to come a point even with kcip people where they don't give a [ __ ] about subs and kcip because the real money they're bringing in is off of sponsorships all right that's a Next Level thing guys you will literally have people who will not leave platforms because it will their CCV will take a hit right well and they're comfortable too they don't want to get out of that bubble it's like so it ain't about the kcip and 955 split what it is is that they have to have they have to show a certain number of CCV to their gfuel to their elato to their carart uh fashion brand to their uh their gamer Advantage people the people who are giving them $770,000 a year to stream with their product and to upload a Tik Tok or upload or VOD and that's next level right so like when you're talking with some streamers like they just want a contract if you're going to make the move that covers their their sponsorship they they we ain't talking 9955 or kcip they're talking they're talking my sponsorship is going to start taking a hit right so that's my point is like where are you in your journey how are you taking care of your business and how are you really self-reflecting on things like I used to stream full-time Monday through Sunday and that hurt me the most streaming every single day but I'm like you know what let me split up my days and not stream every day let me stream with only my community on certain nights and I'll stream oh look let me do Mondays Wednesdays and Fridays maybe that will work or I just choose different days Wednesdays Fridays and Saturdays that's the only time you guys can see me on stream and it helps not streaming Sun Monday through Sunday 10 hour days I don't even stream 10 hour days only on the weekends I do like maybe five six just to have fun with everybody else but on Wednesdays I cut mine short for four hours then I'm going to bed that's it I can't do no 10 20 hours I'm it's not going to go nowhere I don't think it's for me so I think the big thing too on the uh on the streams is uh how you how are you activating your community and having those like very transparent conversations you know I was very more viby until uh last year around like um February March and I was using Tik Tok to kind of move people over here to kick and promoting rocket league and letting people know hey guys I'm going to be doing this really big thing I really want you guys to support when I do this like uncap subathon and keep going and that's how I was able to get approved through kcip and just constantly activating your community showing your community like show your community on the kick side and really encourage people to move on over because that that's where you want to be I want to be part of that guy's Community or Lauren's Community or lazy's Community you know things like that so can I ask Andrew a quick question about the what you said about the hosts and front page features and things not counting towards the CCV so at the moment for verified the numbers from hosts and front page don't count towards your CCV is that right yeah they should not be um so do they show on that little thing at the moment those numbers don't show on your achievements page or how does that so that's that's two different things and you're giv you're giving us a lot of credit um so the hosting still shows up on the metrics right it's on the back end where we look at it right and we're like oh okay this person got hosted five times this month we're GNA remove these actually you're not like you've hit these metrics because of the hosting you get what I'm saying so um but right now on the back end we're going to look at it and be like all right this person hit the metrics they got five hosts but who cares the host happened right the host are the host thing is authentic right then let me also be very clear there's a difference between tabbing follow for follow and hosts and we see those so don't be like I know what happens what happens is like oh I got hosted five times I actually know you didn't you're just you know you have 10 people who have 50 windows open like you know that's not a it's not a host it doesn't work that way if it's very genuine you know what I'm say but I was curious if it does work that way yeah yeah so um look what I will say is that I don't know if

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it's been across our entire staff right now what I say is that the H it's been like as soon as I brought it up it's been addressed and it's been said yes this does not make sense it's something that we need to change now it's just about implementing it with our staff with our kcip and verified staff uh members do you Andre do you personally think that it should be that 7 CCV for verified and 100 for kcip should be absolute minimum for someone to be considered for verified or do you think that Community engagement and and the actual content that's being put out should be considered look we're almost there you know what I'm saying look what what I will say is something that Good Vibes Greg had mentioned is that kick just makes better streamers because of the things that we don't have right all of the bells and whistles um it goes so far I think people really rely on gosh if I just had Channel points my community would show up maybe not maybe I don't know you know gosh if I just could use the Snapchat filter uh then the community really come rolling in I don't know maybe not like you know gosh if I just had like bits well why you know just put a patreon link you know drop a like people there's other to get around not to say that kick should not be doing these things let me first say that um my point in saying all this about around kcip and whether the metrics and all that stuff matter me and Eddie have been on record saying that we want to get rid of the metrics we have talked about that on Kick talks we want I want to go after people who are producing great content that's it right now the argument around that is like okay great you're going to put someone on kcip and they're going to be making a buck 50 an hour because they only have 30 CCV but you see something in them you see that they're grinding and they're doing it right isn't that more demoralizing in giving them to I don't know and this goes back to the business side I will say that 40% of the people that came through in phase one two and three viewed casy IP in two ways and I might get a lot of static for this right but I can say this in a lot of confidence looking back the people who saw it as there's I made it and I can sit on my hands yeah I made it I put out my video I got signed to kick done the other people who saw it as an opportunity and this is a starting point and now the work starts those are the people who've gone on and done big things they've gotten other sponsorship deals maybe they don't even need kcip anymore because they're starting to leverage other things I would say 40% of our phase Partners did that right so my point in answering your question we're talking about metrics and stuff like that are you the type of streamer that does 30 CCV and if you get into kcip do you look at it as $2 an hour or $200 an hour today it's $2 an hour tomorrow it's $200 an hour right there is no cap to the rate in Cas IP hours you legit if you put it in the work could be making $200 an hour and streaming 12 hours a day and making that rate streaming five days a week 10 hours a day 50 hours a week at $200 there's no cap to the hours rate like that's things that people don't think about what they do is they say [ __ ] I'm only making $2 an hour look at the [ __ ] rate that kick is giving me and it's kind of like well first of all you're claiming that you're getting 500 ccvs you're clearly botting and we're only paying you on the 30 CCV that you got right that's why you're making $2 an hour what you really need to be focused on is closing your Bot account rolling up your sleeves and start putting in the work and your $2 an hour will turn into $4 an hour we'll turn into $6 an hour turn into $20 an look our Spanish Community gets it they get it and that's why we've exponentially grown like crazy in Latin America I think there was a crazy tweet out there where two streamers streamed

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for a month on Twitch and another one streamed on Kick and they compared their ad sales rate before their kcip rate 14 times more off of their kcip than their ads all right now there's a lot of things that can go into that maybe twitch isn't pushing as much ad Revenue into Latin America as they should be there's exchange rates there's things of that nature blah blah blah but my point is that the Latin American audience doesn't when the kid gets when the Willy Wonka kid gets the golden ticket they don't he doesn't see a piece of tinf foil in his hand he sees going to [ __ ] Wonka land and [ __ ] killing it right so do you see a piece of tinfoil in your hand or do you do you see potential and that's the difference in streamers all right now to answer your question I believe that everything should go towards content I think that you should be as a Creator say you know what I got what it takes and I'm going to apply for it uh tell them why I think I should be on kcip and I'm going to give them a real up on me and who I am right and I'm going to apply right and then we respond and we say kid you ain't there yet right you just ain't there yet right or I also think that we should Scout I think we should say hey good vibes Greg really great energy hey sugar bears thanks for coming out to dream hack and like spending your time there and getting to know the community that means a lot to us right hey AO thank you for like you know helping lauring Shay out with KC you know with KCA and doing your thing right lazy Panda ain't no one asking you throw up a podcast and having it specifically on Kick thank you for doing that thank you for growing our community we see we see the benefit in this we see the Merit in it look we know that you're only doing 30 CCV but we would be honored to have you on kcip would you be interested right like I think that there we should be scouting and and bringing in people and rewarding people and doing that and then I also think that people think who and I record that and take it as an offer yeah right I hear you the issu Run is that now you're picking and choosing that's now the ISS you're exactly that's why we have to have an application process too right and that's why the metrics also come in right I will say from a business standpoint I do think the metrics are very very important I do um I think that a CCV does stand for something because it's industry standard right it is across the board I do think that there is from a business perspective needs to be a balancing out of this person's making really good content versus they're only doing 20 CCV what are we missing I think that that's the real question like what how can we get this 20 CCV streamer up to 200 CCV and is that the platform's responsibility right is that is that twitch's Tik Tok YouTube shorts kicks responsibility I don't know now to give you because I feel like I'm not answering the question I feel that um and this again this is just my opinion this is not Eddie this is not kick this is not anything these are things that we internally have discussions on and this is what gets bounced around is that I think that content should be there should be a higher value on content if it was up to me I would get rid of the metrics and I would only look at the metrics internally right and I would only I would say like lazy Panda audition she she put in for kcip she feels that she should be on kcip um and we look at the metrics and we say lazy Panda we really like what you're doing but you're only at 30 CCV you need to keep grinding hit us back up in 30 days you got us on your radar let's see where you're at with 30 days and let's see what the work you put in let's let's start there right um as opposed to Lazy Panda hitting her head up against a brick wall not knowing what she's not do doing right to get to 100 CCV 75 CCV I think that there could be a little bit more dialogue and back and forth in this model if we just look at content but still weigh it out on a business perspective around metrics all right do we feel that this is someone who can get to 75 100 because at the end of the day watch hours and viewership is still very important to a platform because that's what they used to sell off to advertisers right honestly right um and

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we want to get an advertising game eventually there is going to be a CV on lazy Panda and when Progressive auto insurance comes in and says I want to run an AI ad over lazy panda is she worth our time to do it that's where the rubber starts to hit the road right now we want to do ads differently so again this goes back to how much of this is community business how much of this is capitalism all that stuff but I do place I personally do place a higher value on content creation than I do hitting the metrics I place a higher value on user generated content than I do viewership right like if lazy Panda's like her Clips are going off the chart and everyone all of everyone in her community is wearing a lazy Panda you know purple wig right and everyone's buying her P her her hoodies and her this and like and like there's a ug there's a user generated content movement around what she is doing right like that to me is more valuable than CCV and I think that should be more valuable to advertisers also but that just ain't the case right now so yes I do think that there needs to and we are having internal discussions right now I am going to be going out to Australia we're going to be making uh a setting up meetings with more of the kcip team this is on the kcip team's uh radar um but however right now the metrics is the thing but there are serious discussions happening that we start moving over into bringing people into kcip based on content have two I have two things real quick Santa that this conversation has um inspired um just to think about so we talk about you know possibility of maybe taking out the metrics as much and focusing more on content or incorporating the two and a word that you brought up was auditions so I was like hm what if there were legitimately kcip audition days and some people actually could come this is content for y'all for the staff that would be interesting come and either do this you can do it live if you want to do it offline in Discord or if you just want to do it via email people can send in their two minute re about here's my Spiel here's my socials here's my uh analytics here's some of my Clips here's my other places where I have a huge following or whatever the case may be here's the potential that I have the sponsors just coming with all of your eggs and getting to actually interact and see uh what it's like just talking to people maybe if you can do a like a draft day sort of deal once a month every three months quarterly um a quarter quell if you will from my Hunger Games fans uh to try to get into the kcip in that way and that's another special way that people have gotten in for example you know I was in the first class of kick Partners that's a special way to be entered into kcp some people like uh snow and Big E just got offered individual contracts so maybe this can be another unique way and more personalized people can come and for lack of a better word kind of just show just showcase their talents and their potential for verification too that would be interesting for yes so just that that's just a thought um and I do have a question behind that somebody in chat asked vextra related to the kcip feedback um people are asking why or when uh will there be a time when people can get specific feedback as to why they're getting denied for KP so you guys know this creative deny 15 times 20 million times whatever the case may be um and I'm sure the staff knows or has their reasons maybe it's Bing maybe it's you don't like the their content is not reflective of what kick wants to whatever the case may be um but when can they get some direct feedback so that possibly like they're doing a sub giveaway and not supposed to be doing that whatever um give them direct feedback so then perhaps the next time they apply they can change it and learn and grow from it because I think we're leaving a lot of people just scratching their head like what the [ __ ] am I doing wrong so all right okay there's a lot clarification and kcip it's like we like they want to know what like all right I love these questions I love this because this is where I can come in and just like slay it um this is like this is my wheelhouse um slay so look um if there's any staff in here right now can you slack me a screenshot of the email that is sent out to people I know I have it somewhere because we have these discussions uh if you can send it to me if you can slack me nobody has been uh if there's any staff in here just slack it to me I would appreciate it because then I'll bring it up on just a screenshot

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I'll bring it up on the screen the email that goes out to people when they're denied all right so look it like and this is just point blank there's really just three reasons why you just get like denied the email Isn't like there hey guys this is one of 500 things that you're doing wrong right guess which one it is all right it ain't like that gosh if you just really just told me what it was that I was doing then I could adjust things it's like really one of three things either a you're being a raging [ __ ] to people all right and everyone under God's green earth including your mom is reporting you right and I'm not talking about brigading like oh soand so Community just doesn't really like me therefore they're they're Mass reporting me and brigading me that's not what I'm talking about we see the difference in that right what it is and is if you are teeing up people and harassing them and being an absolute dick to absolutely everyone that you're coming across and you have a vtuber reporting you and you have someone in just chatting a Cod player that's reporting you and you have someone in VR chat that's reporting you and these people have nothing to do with each other and you're in our system and you've applied for 21 verifications and you don't know why that's why all right and and simply in to it says harassing other communities in feel like you should know right I feel like no this is my point it's it's feigning ignorance right and these people know right look it goes darker and deeper than that there are people who have Bounty boards on other people if you go if my community goes into this person's chat and makes them cry I will give you 50 bucks oh that is pretty dark actually it's dark pry wildy wild it's dark so the thing is the thing okay so this is what I'm talking about this is how Ruthless People can get all right the crazy why am I not getting verified because it clearly says in our to that you're not supposed to be just [ __ ] just Live and Let Live and this is what I'm talking about the resentment part why is Lauren Shay in LA in first class and why am I not well I'm going to make Lawrence Shay's LA's life a living [ __ ] hell I'm A diversity higher why are you doing that right her and extremely cold were completely diversity hires it wasn't it wasn't because they rolled up their SLE they sleeves and work right look not my point in saying all this is that in our simple little email right we say look maybe you're harassing people maybe you're violating to don't do that the second thing that our email really clears uh States is you might have inflated views right don't do that okay so look we know like look if you're running like I got the best community come over to my community and and come on in my community and we're going to be this community awesome community and we're just a community and our community is real strong your at tabbing bro follow for follow your community is really strong at selling off Bots right and then they Fain ignorance why am I not hitting this stuff why am I not getting this stuff blah blah blah blah all right okay so there's two reasons you're being a raging [ __ ] to people or you're flat out inflating your views and you're really bad at it right go ahead Lauren all right two oh no I'm just taking notes I thought you were raising your hand to like say something no one and then two uh and then like the third reason is like you probably we want to see right you hit the metrics all right can you do it again maybe you haven't been on the platform that long streaming that long maybe your socials don't really match up to what your numbers are doing right I cannot tell you how many people hey man I got 500 CCV I hit my metrics why am I not verified I don't know maybe because you have 20 people on your Tik Tok maybe because you haven't posted to your Twitter of 200 followers in the last

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year and a half or maybe because your YouTube shorts isn't like cooking the way you think it like I don't know where are you getting this traffic from you know like your your resume doesn't match up it's the same thing it look at it like a business right like if I go and I apply for a job and I say that I've worked here here and they go and check it out and they're like no you didn't like what experience do you have you know like where are you getting this business lot knowledge exactly like you say that you went you know you went to yes you went to XY University but when we call them up you only went there for two semesters you didn't finish it you know like uh you know so it's the same thing here it's kind of like um what like no like there there's something that's off here right there's something that and if you hit it again awesome then we'll accept you in right it's this listen they do the same thing on every other platform they're kind of like I can't tell you how many times on other platforms they're just kind of like all right they hit a home run once can they step into the batter's B batter's box and can they do it again oh they did it all right let's bring them in they're ready they're game tested they're ready to go right sh sorry because here's the flip side on everything and this is something that a lot of people don't think about there are resources that go into bringing you in when you become a verified streamer all of a sudden you get 247 chat support right when you come into kcip guess what there's an accountant looking at your stuff there's a whole different staff looking at your content like there are resources that go into bringing people in even if you're verified hell even when you make your sub button when you hit affiliate and you get your sub button you don't think we have strip people that you get on their radar right you don't think that Apple and Google have to go and improve your subscription bubble U uh button for mobile like there are resources that H it isn't just like poof this magically happens and you're into this thing that that that's cooking there are resources that go into play when we bring in people on kcip and verified at scale so I hope I've answered that question like uh the email is very direct there isn't there is not much to it there isn't uh 500 options pick one which one am I doing I'm really lost in this whole thing right um and I would say maybe 10% of people who apply for verifi or kcip honestly do not know what the [ __ ] is going on mhm right I would say 90% are grown ass people who know what's happening and would rather try to go the route of social justice and taking to because then that becomes their content that's the [ __ ] up part is like oh I noticed that every time that I say that I've been denied for verification I get a spike in my social media traffic right and that becomes their content wo is me what that wo is me and then what happens is that all the other wo is me people become your audience and that's wild to watch also uh I do have a question um and obviously I know you're not part of the kcip team I don't know who is but obviously it slips through the cracks and there are streamers um who say they may have a community um but they don't um and I'm talking more like the follow for follow tab for tab U I'm not going to name like any specific streamers but I think you know there's cultures out there and you know the culture that I like is you know having an engaging authentic Community versus the community that they say that there's a community are is there G to be like kcip reviews for like all members or how would that and I'm not saying a Witch Hunt or anything like that but I think there are streamers out there who have not hit those metrics at see those streamers get hit and it's not a wo as me it's just there's an interesting system in place you know people slip through the cracks and they get approved and and things like that is there going to be maybe like a review system down the line or things of that nature okay so what is the what's the Consolidated question so is will there be a review process for all kcip streamers because yes okay yes 100% so you guys saw that with verified streamers maybe two or three months ago I think there was like 300 accounts that Lord hell there might have

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even been more right I think there was like I think it was three thou was it in the thousands um it was a lot and I got some mixed feedback as well yeah so like dormant accounts um people who just were like you know harassing others you know more so dormant accounts it was really was um that got their verification removed the same thing is going to happen with kcip and here's the other thing it's already happening right it's already there are people who get de demonetized off kcip um but they don't go out and they don't tell people right and we don't make that public like we don't have like a streamer bands where it goes hey so and so just got banned off a kick we don't have this thing that says hey soand so um um so and so just got demonetized off kcip like we don't announce that right but people do get removed off of kcip on the daily basis will there be a massive audit yes there it will be another there will be a massive audit but let me make this clear like it's to our benefit not to pay out people who are doing XYZ things or inflating their views or doing whatever here's the other thing like just because someone some's on kcip and they look like they're they got 20,000 viewers doesn't mean they're getting paid off of 20,000 viewers right like we're not like there you there you know this system we're not that obtuse to ourselves where we're just going to pay that out like that's not that's not sustainable yeah it's not I think that people start to worry about the platform's business as goes to the platform just worrying about their business right like why is this person on kcip when they're like you know well they might still be hitting the metrics assault but are we paying them out on this inorganic no we're not and then like here's the other thing and Eddie has talked about it also like it's hard to call out someone on botting because like they could be like I'm being botted like oh I've been streaming for x amount of years you pick up a lot of enemies and people just bought you on a daily basis you know or it's not me you know um but what I can tell you is that like yeah we have a system where it adjusts those payouts right so don't think that there aren't people out there that are like 800 CCV who are getting paid for half of that and then don't say anything you know like Eddie and Bon are where aren't where they're at because like they get taken for a ride does that make sense um but to that point yes there is going to be a massive kcip audit um that that H will happen but it happens on it happens on the daily but there's the there's going to be other metrics in place kind of like what we did with verification where we just go through and just kind of clean house you know TI tidy things up yeah and just to give some feedback on the verification I'm off for Casp come review my whatever y'all want to do um but the verification one it really I know it hurts some people and I just call out specifically I don't want to name names but I'mma name Golden Boy briyan because I see him in your chat um who was a verified uh streamer and I think I feel was a straight bullet kind of in all that because they were a person that was still active still making content and been on the front page I'm not going to I don't know why all the business was and the why of it all but there were a few people where it's like well maybe somebody had a surgery and they needed a couple months or so off or maybe somebody was having a mental health issue my father passed away as soon as I got partnered pretty much and I probably needed three or four months off um but life had to keep on lifing and I trying to figure out kick and like that's what my mindset was um and I don't feel like some of the people should have been just what's the word like just rip off taking away for maybe needing space on certain things so I do hope there will be a time when maybe those people can revisit and be like hey I was out because I had a surgery I was because of this or me like whatever the case maybe and then some people genuinely just left and maybe they left and they're gone but I did have I did have some issues with that because even as a and I hate to bring up the purple platform sometimes in comparison but even on that platform I don't think and I could be totally you would know more about this than I would Santa but um it seems as if you get partnered you get to keep that check mark even if you take six seven months

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seven years off I don't really know um but I think as a newer platform yes the people that was that were genuinely found out to be doing some shady stuff or maybe completely inactive for a year or something like that maybe then um the stripping is what I would call that the stripping of the check marks um but I think that that too is something needs to go back and be Revisited for some people that I think caught some Strays in that never going to get it perfect but that's just my feedback all right so here's the deal yes I think you're never going to get it perfect ever ever never ever ever in live streaming are you going to get it perfect um as far as like I know you brought up Golden Boy Bryan I have had a lot of conversations with Golden Boy Bryan um do I think he makes good content for sure is he the type of person that if he auditioned and he's putting out good content 100% um but there's also a flip side and I don't want to pick on Golden Boy Bryan I'm not picking on him I'm just saying across the board what are we doing with the content why what is the why you know if BBJ sees something in him if you see kick staff sees something in him there's something going on right now I would love to sit down with all five 3,000 creators on the platform and figure out exactly what it is that's going on with your content but you can't it's not scalable and I'm not saying that Golden Boy Bryan is going into this Arena but one thing I know for sure is the pikme attitude and the why not me attitude because it's just going to be the next thing why not me verified Why Not Me kcip Why Not Me sponsored Why Not Me Why Not Me and it's going to keep happening right and again I'm not saying Golden Boy Bryan's doing that what I'm saying is that in any industry whether it's the NBA and I'm playing D-League basketball and I'm watching LeBron go off and I say why not me it's like sometimes it's just comes down to genetics man you know sometimes it comes down to what is it that you're meant to be doing right and again I'm not putting Golden Boy Bryant in this like there's so many things that go into any industry listen man I played soccer for a very long time there was a point in time where I thought I was going to be playing professional soccer for a very long time and I played soccer and I could not I was not a starter I wasn't a [ __ ] starter and I was getting paid peanuts guess what I had to do I had to realize that I'm not [ __ ] messy right but what what didn't I do I didn't run on the field and tackle a starter right and say that this guy is garbage and he shouldn't be he shouldn't be starting in front of me right I didn't I didn't go up to my coach and say hey you're a piece of [ __ ] for overlooking me you know like what you do is you go to another team and see if you can't make it and there then guess what you have to start like self-reflecting all right my point is that there is no NBA player there is no CEO there is no accountant there is no um uh anyone in any profession who's doing it at a very high level who made it by saying why not me or pick me ever ever ever ever ever there are people who have humility and say I never thought that this would happen in my life but when you look back at their resume you realize the work that they put in or you realize the talent that they have so you either put work in to get to where you're at or you just have Charisma and you just have it and that's a very small percentage of people right that can just turn on the camera and [ __ ] it lights up right yeah it's a very small perc but it exists it's out there right so Lauren I hope I answered your question in this like I agree with content Golden Boy Bryan would probably be a really good example of someone who if they audition with their body of work yes but what I'm also saying is there's something else there so

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there there's something else there so yes like do I want Golden Boy Bryan's leave kick I don't Bri do I want Golden Boy Bryan to add other platforms to his portfolio and grow and get his content out there so that he can really see is it kick is it me and is my content better suited for Tik Tok or isn't it right look there are a [ __ ] ton of people who are doing content on YouTube because it's just a better platform for them there's a guy named Weston Champlain all right you guys can look him up Westen Champlin and he builds cars he builds drag racers and he is someone that I've talked to and said dude you would be an amazing live streamer you know what he's better at videos video on Demand right there's another YouTuber that I talked to his name is Max velocity right and especially with all the like weather [ __ ] that's happening in like LA and throughout the coast and blah blah this guy's name is Max velocity he would be an amazing live streamer because he reports on the weather and I'm like there's no better way to live stream than report on the weather in real time but guess what his videos do much better he posts a video in the morning [ __ ] 9 million hits off the rip right but he's found the platform where his content thrives on that right so my point is that if he started doing live streaming would he take a hit maybe he gets nervous when it lights up right when it's live not everyone can walk the tight RPP my point is that get on all platforms see how you cook and then use kick to maximize your splits right but it ain't personal you know it's not like again it's not like we're we are it's not like we brought in all 200 300 kick employees and said today we're going after Golden Boy Bryan and it don't work that way on any platform I hope I answered the question just go into it too just the big cycle I mean just for any streamer journey and why kick would be the main platform for your home but yeah you want to keep moving people from like YouTube and twitch and Tik Tok if Tik tok's still alive for another year whatever but you know moving those people and making it your core community and just keep going being consistent which is hard CU I again I got a lot of backlash from trying to I was like I'm not going to twist your arm from twitch to kick if you want to come by all means my doors are open if it's not then but don't come support me when I'm doing great you know what I mean I had people at my lowest still supporting me till this day and now that they see me doing great now they want to come say hi right hi nice to meet you but no like I no I'm sorry but no like not to be rude but it's like I don't like the fake support that you want to generally support me do it cuz you love me and you love what I do that's it yeah just it's just booting live on Twitch or YouTube whatever just a quick reminder say hey I'm still over on Kick if you want to come by and yeah be part of that core Community like by all means yeah I might go back to the purple app who knows maybe I can rebuild it back up to something different because I didn't know what to do when I was streaming on Twitch I was like just doing whatever I wanted to do now that I have a steady Community maybe I can so we'll see to that note here's the deal like you'd be surprised at the amount of people who are on Twitch that still fire up on Kick no exactly okay so like the office drummer is a really good example that dude fires up on Kick as fast as he fires up on Twitch okay um who is who else is another twitch streamer like um strawberry tabby fires up on Twitch as f as fast as she'll fire up on Kick Liz Vega uh who plays a harp fires up on Twitch as far as fast as she'll fire up on Kick Grim still to this day fires up on Twitch first class partner all right so it's just a matter how do you utilize the platforms to benefit what it is that you're doing all right our goal is that we're just happy when kick is a part of your diet right that's a win for us okay the fact that office drummer will fire up on Kick and make him make us a part of his diet is a

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win that's a massive win you you're talking about someone who's been on Twitch from Jump Street from doing at doing it at a very high level I mean [ __ ] he just did a clab with Kai sonat not too long ago uh that did wonders for him but guess what he was still firing up on Kick right yeah um so I think the differences my opinion when you start getting to a different level of streaming is that it's a business these are tools this ain't personal kicks out to get me Twitch is Tik tok's out to get me none of these platforms are out to get you guys no one is only if you're acting like a raging [ __ ] or you're being a raging racist genocidal man Maniac are you going to start getting on people's radar right but there is nobody that and any company that wakes up and says we're going after Good Vibes for today right um my point in saying all that is that when you get to a different level of streaming you just look at these platforms as tools and again it's the look I'm going to use a Marvel Rivals analogy all right um when I need to get the [ __ ] spider crawler thing um uh to a certain checkpoint guess what I'm bringing in the Punisher and I'm cleaning house right my nut I care no no excuse me when I have to prevent the spider crawler from coming no no I use Groot right I use Groot and I I throw up the walls and that thing ain't moving right but when I need to get it moving I use Punisher right and it's the same thing here when I need to loosen things up because I'm doing this I'm gonna use Tik Tock when blah we think that giving the best splits and being the tool where you make the most money and you get paid for your content we feel that that's the best approach so that it don't matter if you're using Punisher Groot you making the same amount of money because you putting in effort right exactly but it don't make sense to us that if you use Punisher you make 70% and you use group you make 50% that don't make sense to us and my making sense uh yeah a tad bit a little bit all right cool just a wee bit you lost me at potato got you right I'm still figuring out Marvel Rivals but I I'll catch you oh dude I love that game is has been my y'all been SP right there you need to get on that because that's that game is I did start playing it I know you play ited it yet but I've been locked in on that game is just okay but let's but let's get for real all right for real because I know that there's a lot of people in chat there's you guys here you know as in this journey with affiliate and verified and trying to navigate the resentment versus the business versus the community versus everything else right like where are we on this right where are we when we start having conversations because when I see I what so dangerous sometimes about live streaming is people start living in an echo chamber and that's where things get go wild right yeah do you think that most streamers look at both sides of the coin right um because okay for example big streamers will come in and complain why aren't all big streamers on the front page if everyone wants you know it you have to force people to get to where we're at why aren't we getting the flowers we should be front paged all the time we're carrying the [ __ ] platform right and then you have people like fuzz who come in and say hey Affiliates are the lifeblood of your [ __ ] man you better not forget about us right and then you have your kcip people who are saying hey we're your partners why am I not getting front paged or my flowers why am I not like so and then you have people who are saying like this platform is completely against me what I'm saying is that where does all this [ __ ] converge right like are the big streamers right like why wouldn't you listen to someone who's doing 20,000 CCV organic content and been doing this at a hell level versus someone who's been doing this for only a year and a half and saying this is where my journey started because arguably the majority of your platform is where this is at so this is just my opinion on it um there are the you know well more established streamers that is fleeting they can leave when they want to but for the people that are actually

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you know grinding and doing what they want to do this is where we're building it so that's the reason why we want to advocate for ourselves sometimes we don't do that we don't advocate for ourselves like we should and that's something I think people really need to understand um you need to be your biggest Advocate not the platform doesn't you need to be your biggest Advocate and really not be afraid to reach out to staff hey look I have this idea I reached out to Santa Maria hey I have this idea for the streamer Awards thing I'm going to do it's something I want to do hey let me know if you want to if you guys think this a cool idea C can I do this or reach out to staff hey staff can I do this be your biggest Advocate because nobody is going to do it but you um and I do understand the other side of a larger stream you know being like I want tooc for being on the front page I get it but as a bigger streamer you were a smaller streamer first you didn't just start off with a th000 CCV and xqc levels you started out with one or two people in your chat we all yeah we all started from the bottom so I think some of the people that are higher up in those things kind of let's step it back a little bit and put yourself in the shoes when you originally were there um we're all here to have fun to grind and make this something big why don't we take that mentality instead of having a oh they're doing this now the front page no you should be like hey yo that's a new streamer on there go check him out why not do that's my perspective of it I could be completely freaking in Lulu land but that's my perspective of what we should do as a streaming Community period That's how I think that's how it should be like finding new people even joining events that they create engaging with other streamers because like you said you can't put yourself out there unless you try to we can't bring communities together if you don't want to put the effort in it you know what I'm saying like we can only do so much to help people grow if they don't want to grow within themselves they just want to be stuck in a bubble and they're comfortable with it that's fine but it's you can't be closed-minded in this industry cuz then it's not going to work out that way that's how I feel yeah I think it's also just down to culture right kick is so new it's been two years um you know we have so many perceptions of streaming whether you just got into kick and you're very new and you see things are working and you kind of do that so it's like Monkey C Monkey Do there's a lot of people who are doing it the bad way and a lot of people doing the authentic way right and so now we're coming down to like a culture issue um well you know you answered my question not too earlier there's going to Beck and balances right the kcip review that's really good to hear you know so you should you know have faith in the platform itself and just trust the process as the creator of who you are and what you're producing um and just being consistent I have had a lot of times on Twitch and kick where I think about it I say wow wo is me but I can't like be like that because I got to keep pushing and going right so it and my time did come up and my community supported me and and engaged in there was a lot of Victories um and I'm very blessed on that but I think it comes down to go ahead what does it come down to uh it comes down to just culture right like it's two years new streamers are now coming on the platform and again it's a lot of Monkey C monkeyd on seeing certain ways to en enhance dude you nailed it on the head and it's why Dan clany is very right when he says twitch has the culture yeah right very early on he was asked about kick very early on I think he was doing a travel across Spain European thing and he was on with a streamer and he said that and that was like the first thing that he said about kick and I totally agree with him 100% you cannot buy culture all right so like when you talk about Monkey C Monkey do it's like you have so many streamers on that platform who have taught other streamers who have been a road map for these folks right now it's going to take time for kick to develop its own culture and have its own road map system and you're seeing growth in that right you're seeing a lot of growth in that I can't tell you how many and I talked about kcip Phase 1 2 and three the 40% of the people that I'm talking about and Lauren Shay is one of them who have this amazing story arc from where they started to where they are now right like that no serious like that

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stuff is blueprint for other people and those are positive blueprints right and and there's many different shades of These Blueprints right like yes you could be a drama streamer and be very successful that is a blueprint yes you could be a um a wholesome cozy streamer and that is a blueprint yes you could be a first-person shooter that's a f that's a blueprint you could be just chatting that's a blueprint right but it takes time for the community to coales and how we're going to do this the other thing is that we have a looser to the average streamer is 33 years old right um we consider ourselves the HBO is streaming as opposed to other platforms that might be the nickel it is weird to watch streamers who are 33 years old act like 14y olds because they're a forced to right they're forced to so when you have a platform like kick that allows people to act like adults I mean some people start looking like jackasses right but they start evening out they start evolving they start maturing but that [ __ ] all takes time that all takes time I you know um I look we had sneo on the other day um look at that guy's Arc he doesn't even hardly stream on Kick but look at that guy's Arc the the content that he's producing now go to his Twitter page now and don't tell me that his content isn't cooking no matter what the topic is Right versus to his content like [ __ ] even six seven months ago right drastically matured drastically different uh drastically focused but it still has a whole [ __ ] ton of edge does that make sense any of them or am I just like vamping and bullshitting no makes total sense I mean yeah it's just evolution of content and maturing as well I mean I'm going to say Aiden Ross it feels like he's matured very recently um I wasn't a really big fan of him growing into it on Twitch and whatnot and then seen him kick and kind of felt loose whatever and then I feel like he's evolved a little bit better now but going back to my blueprint uh aspect how much evolving Evol how but what does that do for upand cominging streamers kick what does that do what does that do when people are looking at Aiden Ross and saying oh [ __ ] like here's the arc motivates them yeah yes it does very different things so that's my point about on Twitch you twitch you've had people who you have people like Justin KH who started it right who became an inspiration to people we don't even know about you have PE you PewDiePie who came through you have Ninja Tim the tapman who came through you have Dr disrespect who came through you have soda Poppin who's still cooking over there you know you have Jericho um who's over there who is an OG that he's a streamer right um You have Assan who who created a blueprint you have all these people who helped establish kick I mean twitch who are a blueprint who have a story arc in their maturity that people can follow along to right now enter kick who's doing it different those blueprints are going to look a little different they're going to look more mature edgy they're going to look you know but it's going to take time for those blueprints to establish so now we have the Aiden blueprint right we have the Lauren sha blueprint you know Good Vibes Greg is creating his own blueprint right a as you evolve and as you bb Jess has created a blueprint right thong dong Luchi has created like I bring Luchi up a l a lot right now like Luchi ain't even cooking on kcip right now he still streams on Kick but his focus is on YouTube and YouTube shorts right now right before that it was on Tik Tok he'll come back around to kick but he's still adding kick to his diet but he's an amazing blueprint of someone who is doing 1500 CCV and strategizing his content yeah I have a question sorry about that guys was dealing with are you going to loopfest Santa Maria yeah I look I want to go to loot Fest 100% uh full transparency I got to go to Australia in February and loot Fest falls on the to towards the tail end of February right I don't know how many of you guys have made a trip to Australia but it is tiresome right um You compound that with weeks of meetings and then being

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away from your family I want to go to loot Fest I don't know if I can and will um we are also talking with L Fest and having a presence there I have not nailed that down all right um I will say this I want tactical Grandma to come to pick that right God that would be insane I don't know why she's not and if someone wants to clip this and send it to her now why do I bring up tactical Grandma I'm about to show her she heads up loot Fest uh along with you know a handful of other people but Grandma come on over man like loopfest the three4 of loot Fest is kick streamers oh dude we everybody that went to Loop Bez was kick streamers last year like when I went I don't mean to call out tactical but I do like three4 of kick is there like fire up tactical you would be so freaking welcomed here you know who fires up who's in her genre is Grandpa gaming yeah I like that guy seen him on the on um recommended before I think fantastic I have one more question well chat ask question go so Bailey asked if um if you guys can help him with uh wrestling creators on the kick side like how can they get that pushed out more on the kick side the wrestling aspect of it WWE we did have a guy named conman who conman was it conman 517 I forget um conman does a lot of wrestling commentary right um I think I think it is that the wrestling genre we also had this other channel called the action show a action show they would do homegrown wrestling at bars right oh that's funny for some reason it was actually great because look the wrestling imagine the wrestling genre took off on Twitch right for some reason the wrestling genre is not taking off on Kick I don't I do not know why and I talked with con man quite a bit about it um and I can't put my finger on it why it's not uh taking off um but conman would do everything from play WWE on the PlayStation to do react content um on stream he would do everything that he was doing on Twitch I just think that there's more of an audience on other platforms than on here so you know you're the person who's asking the question Bailey if they are just solely relying on the kick audience to bring in WWE he cannot be doing that he has to simoc cast his stuff to other he has to start building it he has everywhere else he has to man um you hear that Bailey you hear that but if you're just firing up on Kick and you're just hoping I I'm going to tell you right now we went down this road with other creators one that was putting on highlevel shows called the action show highlevel w WWE type of shows at bars which was hilarious they were great really well produced great choreography great fights great they had bands they had chat up on this giant 20 foot wall they had kick out in the middle of the Ring it just wasn't it just wasn't catching con man does uh WWE content at a very high level and I will just say that I don't think that audience is here yet it doesn't mean that they're not coming it won't be it's just going to you just can't fire up on Kick and hope that the WWE audience is going to be here yeah and I just I want to add to that real quick too Santa because I think that some of that message is might be getting Lost in Translation with some of the people in chat um cuz some of the message that I think people are receiving is you need to go some somewhere else you should be on a different platform more so pushing away from kick but for example I was a Yu-Gi-Oh Master duel person when I started on Twitch tried to bring that over to kick there's not a lot of people here playing Yu-Gi-Oh y'all and it's been almost two years it's just not there Dead game for some people it's but it's my heart right just like Bailey loves WWE or whatever the case may be um so I don't I feel like the message some people are taking is oh well there's no WWE here I need to go elsewhere no it's if you're trying to Branch out I know there's more Yu-Gi-Oh people on Twitch so I can go on Twitch perhaps reach out to my Yu-Gi-Oh people over there if they want to come over to um Kick and do some

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tournaments or do some crossplatform tournaments or whatever the case may be uh you just might for the time being as this is still a clearly developing uh platform that's only been around for two years versus platforms that have been around for 16 almost 20 years some of these things uh you might not have large communities in those areas so nobody's saying oh there's nothing here to Twitch people are just saying to use your resources and your tools to try to incorporate kick into it as well I think y hearing it differently than what is being and this is this goes back to my comment versus do you have a piece of golden tinfoil in your hand or do you see a ticket to Willie Wonka land right um M look Bailey your friend Bailey can look at it one or two ways um can I be con man on Kick I'm going to be the next con man on Kick doing WWE content right or you can go back over to another platform and live in that shadow you ain't taking over con man you're not right or you can be the con man on Kick and build that really fast that's what I'm saying right what I'm saying is like um use kick to your benefit but just also realize that the entire social media sphere you have tools to do that you know like I'm really trying to put on my business hat for streamers you know where it's like that way you're not in a Lifeboat out to seea and you don't realize that the Lifeboat that you're in has paddles hell it might even have an engine on it you know but if you sit there in your Lifeboat and you start screaming up to the sky save me you ain't getting anywhere right you might be sitting on a yacht and you don't even [ __ ] know it what I'm saying is that if you're on Kick you're sitting on a yacht just you just have to start like firing up stuff right trying stuff um so to your Bailey friend like yeah I'm not saying leave and go back to another platform what I'm saying is that the you can Pioneer this [ __ ] right um just like chess has been pioneered here like Gia Maru was the only chess player here for a while right and he took a massive leap coming over here but he has arguably pioneered our chess division to the point where we did a Chess activation you know at dream hack Stockholm right um so yeah look I'm not saying anyone leave what I'm saying is like use all utilize use all the tools that you have and realize that kick is going to give you the best splits for your time I did have a question um that kind of piggybacks off of what we're talking about is there anything that is currently in place for instance I'm a big nerd I love d and we like to do you know like Group D and D nights is there an opportunity to reach out to staff or a form we could possibly fill out to add different categories like a d like live D and D or like you know like a different NBA mode or different things like that is because games are always evolving there's always going to be new games coming out but um is there a way to like maybe the staff could create a form that we could submit to hey say like I this is what we're going to be doing weekly um is that something we could really do even like a cosplay like a cosplay there's multiple categories many yeah there's like so much we could do the Discord I mean there's a kick I don't use it anymore be honest but there's a kick Discord official where you can post suggestions so that is a living uh that one but I do agree maybe it could be more so of like a form submission to get into um staff's attention a little bit more directly maybe I like that idea have you guys have any of you guys okay so like first of all Sugarberry Club is a good example of someone yes you can do that she had the W uh NBA 2K um I don't even know I said that right I apologize um category made because she called it out she wanted it made and it got done right have you guys contacted support kick. com and if you have what kind of response did you get or have you contacted your 247 support and said hey I got this idea I want to do a category um and did you get any response there or are you just now bringing it up now I did get a response want um I have to look at the email but I don't remember what it said but it wasn't kind of what I wanted at that point it was kind of like a generic like we'll look into it type

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thing I did do a I wanted to do a series for like a siping paint thing I didn't get an email back I was like you okay so for Sip and paint so you know and I'm just trying to go through the minds of our devs or in our support is if you did want to do Sip and paint like a streer one yeah why wouldn't the art category be good for you get what I'm saying oh yeah yep you know so they might look at it and be like just go in art category you know yeah um and you know go for it like D and D let's um let me see I believe there is a Dungeons and Dragons category let me just bring it up dungeons Dungeons and but if you wanted like live tournaments or live gaming DIY dungeons it's like a live yeah live stuff yeah and okay dungeon DND d and yeah there's no result for D and D if I remember correctly dungeons live yeah so you know look we do have uh Dungeons and Dragons categories and things that nature we don't have a live category and I think that that's what you're saying there's Nuance to it right yeah there's Nuance to the categories so okay so we ran into this with Pokemon right it was there's two thoughts on this right is that there are 20 different games of Pokemon right and so everyone wants 20 different categories of Pokemon right but then you have other people who are saying why are you splitting up the Pokemon category community right like why are you having you know 20 viewers in each 20 different categories why not have 400 viewers in one Pokemon category right so we get two different conflicting things right so like it's the same thing with Dungeons and Dragons like there's a lot of different ways that you can do Dungeons and Dragons why don't you have a Dungeons and Dragons cosplay why don't have you have dungeons Dragon tabletop why don't you have dungeons dragons like whatever video game iteration there is why don't you have Dungeons and Dragons live right so do we split up the community or do we bring them all together under one Dungeons and Dragons I kind of had a question that fits into this as well because talking about categories because OB say I'm a horror streamer um and I've spoken before about a horror category but I feel kind of the same with horror there are literally thousands of horror games out there when you take into consideration indie horror games and things and you know I always I don't know if a horror category would work but um is there a plan to have tags always such a good idea because I want people to know the name of the indie horror game I'm playing but I can't find other horror streamers tags would answer tags would settle this whole thing and Paulie that is on Paulie's radar okay that tags right so and kicks so yes 100% I think tags would solve the whole thing so it doesn't matter what you're typing in you're going to find it all right um so I think it's just a matter of where we are and our growth process right so I see a lot of people who are saying like there's no gaming category you're not going to put Cod and Marvel Rivals and Halo and all these things under the gaming category 100% I think it's just a level of like where are we at kick with dungeons and Dragons I don't think we're there yet to split I think you're stronger United as opposed to split up that's just my opinion same thing with the art category I think you're stronger United I don't think there needs to be a Paint and Sip category versus an art category right I think that if if Sweet Cakes brings in her community to in the art category it makes the art category that much stronger you know it elevates sense however if all of a sudden the art sipping category has 200,000 followers and 40,000 people watching at given time guess what we're doing we're cre we're splitting it up we're creating the category um it's the same thing that amaranth and Indie Fox did with the pools category all right holy [ __ ] we have all these people in bikinis playing Mario Kart and they're doing it and just chatting and the people and just chatting are absolutely getting livid what are we gon do what are we gonna do we can either ban them all or we're going to create a pools category where all of a sudden these creators have 40 minute plus retention rate and

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we're going to utilize that right so it all comes down to business tactics within each category right now the business tactic is we love Dungeons and Dragons has the cause play gotten to the level of other uh places yet we don't think so however if we combine all the Dungeons and Dragons category can we lift all boats right now yes you know does that make sense yeah cool but yeah look what we shouldn't be doing is be giving you a blanket response right hey I think we need an art and sip category thank you for contacting kick and we'll get back to you as soon as possible and we never hear back from you right there should be the idea my respon there should be an email back saying hey look we don't want to divide the categories please stream under the art category we think you'll find more success there right um sugar bears like how long did it take you to get that category up and going or was it pretty instant I literally got an email back that the category was up and running within 24 hours all right that's dope so here's when I went to update to get it to try to get it updated to kind of push it a little bit more for forward I kept getting the same email all right here's the problem you've been on the platform for a very long time all right there was at one point where and I know who probably answered that it was either one or two people it was either Kevin or it was Sergio right who got that category up and going for you there was a time guys where literally could go the into the back end of kick and do whatever the [ __ ] I wanted to do right like if I wanted a WNBA 2K guess what I'm creating it boom there it is great idea send me a thumbnail I'm gonna resize it boom it's there all right what you're talking about now is that what we have to do better is scale our customer service as the platform grows and that's what's happening all right now you have 200 people who is are wearing one hat where as opposed to where you only had six people wearing 500 different hats right does that make sense so the accessibility was much cleaner early on but now what you have is like look man I'm just in the moderation department or I'm in the support department I'll get this over to our devs and right now our Dev department is cooking on points slam doing other things so guess what happens the wnb 2K category might go down on the list or what might happen is that if all of a sudden support gets 200 [ __ ] emails from 200 different creators saying we want an art sip category then that gets on our radar that then that says wait a minute there's high demand for this and now we need to move on it right so it's we have to all right y hear that yall we got to work on that to get me back in we have to scale the co customer service where we give you back a response saying look it's not worth doing it right now because we're going to split that category or you know what that's a good idea let me get this on a dev's plate and let's let's get it going you know clip it J clip it we can send it to yeah now like there is a world where we look at the back end we were like look we can't be answering tickets for every [ __ ] category we can't make a category for every freaking thing you know I agree but I do think we should communicate that say hey look it ain't worth our time to do an art sip just going into the art category you know and then if Sweet Cakes comes back and says look I'm cooking on 40,000 CCV right now in art and sep then it's kind of like oh okay now we're listening you know okay yeah I don't know if you guys do have it um on the community website but is there like a organization chart that you guys have CU I know you've probably switched team to team Santa Maria but is there like an or chart that cuz also I think a lot of people don't realize you guys are corporate so if you haven't worked corporate before you know things fall on the Cracks communication kind of goes away and then it leaves us streamers you know the lack of transparency but you guys are moving a lot of uh moving parts so is there like an org chart that we can ever see there is no public org chart um um I think at this rate an org chart it's just growing massively right um I mean I personally would be all

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for that I got I got no problem with that I think it would be awesome um I think what's hilarious is that um there are people who think that I run the platform solely right that you own the keys yeah that I go around specifically Banning people or putting people on kcip verification where they don't realize like actually we have a 10-man verification team kcip you know 150 people doing moderation right now so um yeah I think a work chart would be awesome um so yeah I that's something that I think we could throw out there to see if we can get done for sure cuz look there's a work chart on Tik Tok Facebook there's a work chart on Twitch that you guys can easily look up there now here's the thing like are they publicly publishing these things no but they are relaying them to other websites that track work charts so that they that so that thirdparty sites can track them very good yeah but I think it'd be good just like just to keep it transparent you know yeah obviously don't leave or anything you're going to get bombarded with just emails maybe but you know I think it'd just be cool be like oh okay so this person's on this team because I know you were getting Flack for a lot the mustache man but I'm like I don't think Andrew does anything you know in that terms of regards right so listen I love it because there's a dgen side of me that [ __ ] jumps in on that [ __ ] there is you're opening it up so that I can start talking about your [ __ ] let's do it yeah let's do it I don't saw a couple weeks ago I don't give a [ __ ] if the serto clips me off and has me calling you out I could give two shits right yeah life goes on after that people get very caught up I think when you don't you have to have a life outside of this it's not to say that people um people just get too invested I think sometimes into this streaming world and what people say on social media and all these different things at the end of the day the camera's on you do your thing camera's off you live your life and I came up with jackass Jerry Springer you know I came up with Snookie getting punched in the face in a bar you know call Black like I got no yeah no um I think that that's another part of a lot of things with people where and what I love about kick is like we're I think we're helping people not take themselves too seriously right let us be our own person and do whatever we want unfiltered filtered whatever the [ __ ] we want we you uh what's the word I'm trying to figure out you gave us like an open like open arms like you don't give us um you can't do this you can't say this you can't wear this like no to be a creat an extent to an extent yeah yes can't breath okay look you know what it's called it's change the Damn Channel yes that don't like it you don't you don't like what you don't like lazy Panda's po podcast topic change the [ __ ] Channel you don't like Good Vibes Greg and a bikini change the [ __ ] Channel you don't like me and my grandpa mask you don't like Grandpa mask change change the [ __ ] Channel I cannot tell you that's my response 80% of the time that's my response to people when they DM me and they say hey someone was talking about this and that blah then why the [ __ ] are you watching it why are you giving them another thing you know why are you coming to me I think the biggest thing is the battle between e boys and e girls is off the [ __ ] charts right it's crazy it's crazy um and nine times out of 10 with the E boys and e girls and I'm talking about like grown people complaining about petty [ __ ] where I'm like don't watch them I do not know what to tell you don't watch them well why aren't you Banning them because they're not doing anything wrong they're just creating content that you do not particularly like change the channel that's it but they're doing so and they're doing this and that right um look are they harming anyone are they talking to minors are they talk talking about genocide are they doing abor hate speech no keep it moving are they hurting your feelings no change the [ __ ] channel

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change the channel that's life that part yeah it's welcomed in the internet it gives you it just give you thicker skin and my skin was thick when I came in so you know we just level up um I do want to um Circle back real quick to a couple affiliate related things just cuz we have Affiliates here which is awesome I hope that this will continue on in the future being able to have that voice in perspective so uh I did want to interject with Cosmo uh 06 shout out to him he's newer to kick and he's an affiliate on here I think he was at the latest uh dream hack Atlanta as well uh one thing that he brought up and I've brought this up before and I know we talked a little bit about the front page um but was the idea of encorporating for people who are under that 30 CCV um concurrent whatever the case may be at that level right now having something we talked about maybe having Clips on the front page and different um categories coming if there could be a section for them that is either right possibly below that featured section because I know we incorporate all people in the feature section in general that are all different kinds of sizes um but having something specifically for them and not just like oh this person has under 30 CCV let's just throw them up there they're not you know they're doing something different and unique but there's somebody in one of those smaller kind of um audience levels at this time which 30 people really is still a lot but they're developing more so um so that was a that was a question from one of the Affiliates could there be something like that possibly Incorporated in the front page actually a that's a great idea it's a great idea we should have a category of under 30 CCV 10 C CV whatever and I think that that's where a lot of nuances is it's hilarious like how we're talking these things through as not to offend people where we're like right 30 CCV still a lot because I don't want to offend the five CCV people five CCV is still a lot I don't want to offend the people who have one CCV nobody with nobody right so like you just get on this [ __ ] crazy I hate saying this virtue signaling treadmill of what of pandering to people who are bitching about having 5 CCV and calling the 30 CCV streamer a [ __ ] um favorite right neverend why a 30 CCV category [ __ ] you kick why aren you paying attention to me think about that no for real yeah that happens and it's crazy now I do think that there should be a category because I do think it's a good idea but I think we call it upand cominging streamers right something just like that I don't care if you got 50 CCV 200 you got two CCV right it's an upand cominging streamer who's producing good content that needs to get on our radar right okay it's excellent so here's something that's going to help all of this why am I not on the front page CCV category why am I not here why am I not that kick does not have an algorithm right algorithm is going to fix all of this YouTube has an algorithm twitch sort of has an algorithm I don't want to get too much into that whole back story of how they do things um Tik Tok has an algorithm everyone has an algorithm these more established platforms have an algorithm once we get an algorithm going on the front page a lot of this is going to die out I do think that there needs to be a human element to the front page for like like special series or like when whle bears has like a gingerbread making competition I think that should be a human touch right or when la does KCA or when you know some when something's happening right like like there should be a special or like the LA fires uh thing and when someone wants to do a charity event we push that up there I think that there should be a human element to that um but when there's an algorithm that tracks like let's say unique Chatters right and I think that would be a great way to Showcase upand cominging streamers like if your percentage of unique organic Chatters is reflective of your CCV at a high rate I think that you should be placed on that category so it doesn't matter it's like hey this guy's got 10 people in his watching him but four people in his chat are popping off right like there's comments it isn't boted it isn't generated it isn't they're having organic conversation there's a lot of traction um like there is this clip that

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just went out of this guy doing 20 CCV and it's getting a lot of good traction let's pop them up there right there are algorithms that exist that track highlevel organic traffic in comparison to the amount of people that are watching them and I think that should trigger disc abbility placement will solve a lot I think algorithms are going to solve so much in the interim of an algorithm if we were to do a upand cominging streamer category then it would be up to our 30 people who are on our feature team our feature team the front page gets rotated via our social media team via our partners team and Via our feature team and that comprises about 30 to 50 people who at any given time will pop in and say this person's doing something interesting or look at what this person is doing or check out this person we're all over kick watching it at all times right um and if there's a consensus around oh wow yeah this person is doing something cool because there's checks and balances right what happens is that if a staff member P comes across someone who's doing something really good and we pop them in there and they're like then we might have someone from the moderation team say hey this dude has been flagged nine times in the last month we cannot front page this person because there will be absolute pandemonium and meltdowns right you know there's all kinds of stuff there's a discussion my point is that there's a there's there isn't just one person calling the shots here right there's everyone scouring the internet so if we were to do this kind of category yes you guys would just have to realize that we are curing curating that but the end goal for me would be let's get an algorithm going that recognizes the good behaviors of an upand cominging streamer and let's get that going that's my end goal like that somebody said call it up and kicking up and 8 I like it do you guys plan on dropping the mobile streaming on for us to stream on our phones cuz I know you did I know Crow tested it out when he did the golfing thing do you guys plan on dropping it any time soon or is it still in the works um okay so yes it a it's still in the works all right um we did do it beta testing I remember Panda skills had like a major surgery and he after postsurgery he streamed from his hospital bed mobile oh [ __ ] right okay um so we I think we had like maybe 10 to 15 streamers who had the mobile capability in beta testing so yes it is there it is a feature that's going to be happen happening now that's up to Paul when he releases it it's up to our development team when they releases it um now Paul look looks to his team to say are we ready yet and we're not there yet there's testing that we went under and we're still smoothing it all out but when it does get released yes like we love prism right but there's two schools of thoughts on this right like yeah why are we going to build it when there's prism it's you know well we should build it because of ease of use right oneop shop we should you can just go live you I'm going to the store and po use the phone but here's here are all the things that people don't look at is like just [ __ ] get it out right that's the argument all right however what if we just [ __ ] get it out and our version isn't as good as prism what's going to happen you all just going back to prism right and we spent how long developing it and getting it out there right yeah like it's better to build it beta test see how ass it is refine it pop it back out there because like do we want to take compete against prism no that's not our goal but what we want to do is if we're going to do this let's just try to do it right so that it does become a true One-Stop shop I see Lauren and all you guys smiling what is it would that be for mobile game it's because our chat is like they're asking questions I'm like I don't want to like just cut people off do it cut it off do it there swag says what about for mobile Gamers or is it for prism too mob what do you mean I know I guess mobile cons yeah no like you play mobile games on your phone and they can stream off the phone yeah yeah if you have that like whatever screen you're mirroring or ejecting yeah it'll take I think you can use prism Swag yeah for now I think what this boils down to is that us as consumers we want one place to go to yeah um and

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especially for people that are in the affiliate status we just want one thing we don't want to go to prism this we don't want to go to that we want a One-Stop shop to where we can put our content and put that egg into um where I just know for my personal opinion I don't want to go hit the Tik Tok one go to this one go to that one to have all my live streams on my phone I just want to be able to go on my kick same thing with console there's been a lot of people talking about the console I know it's coming I don't want to harp on it I know it's coming but is it can we just do it please yeah we are doing it but we want to roll it out and make sure that it's good they want to give us a good piece of work to work with yeah I'm not saying it's not coming I'm saying that yesing done according to our beta testing it was part of it I loved it I was like [ __ ] P what more do you need Panda skills is broadcasting from a hospital bed Crow's golfing so it's like that was dop yeah it's it's Tip Top I think that this is definitely a poly question like where are we at with it you know it's there uh and it's happening um but um look can I try in just one sec just because I feel like this talk track has been for people who have been on the platform for a while it's been like respectfully like a two twoyear long Edge I was about to say that when I said look I'm two years on Monday yeah we're edging really great and for two years too so do you think anything would come out this year I know you can't give us a deadline or a date but like do you think 2025 would be you know bajon has tweeted Bajan and don't take you know don't take my word for go to Ban's Twitter page look at his replies and look how he talks about like API features things that are rolling out 2025 it's just look it drives me crazy when we tweet out like a Dragon Ball Z thing saying we've been hibernating and guess what we're coming out swinging all right it's like for me like I'm like guys come on let's you know but I see it it's happening and I'm I listen I'm in slack I'm the guy that is like get it the [ __ ] out why are we sitting and looking at it right and I'm just talking for myself I'm talking for myself and I know like come Monday morning hey man why are you throwing us under the bus right I'm not throwing anyone all right but I'm talking with such confidence because I've seen it I've seen proof of life I've seen it you guys have seen it I don't have to fake it like we beta tested the mobile yeah right what are we waiting on what are we doing what that was like four months ago right all right okay like what is the we need to make it perfect it a never going to be perfect that's why there's 1. 0 2. 0 3. 0 2. 1 2. 5 that's why there's all that right so I think that we were burned by over promising and un delivering so early on that we've clammed back into our shell that's what I think and I think that we're forgetting that we're just human um I think that when we were doing these things very early on and we were saying hey we're going to let you like split your re your funding over to your mods and we're going to offer crypto have mobile streaming and we're gonna have kicks we're GNA have all these things and they're coming out within 2023 and I think we we shot our shot too early because when we started digging into these things we started realizing that our base wasn't good our base just wasn't good and we realized that we had to rebuild this base okay so we climbed back into our shell but now I'm looking at things I'm kind of like Hey we're there why you know but what I'm saying is the question is like about 2025 my point is that we're saying things are coming out Bon has said Point Blank that things are coming out and this is different than Santa Maria saying it Paul saying it right these are now owners of the platforms saying it Lauren what are you laughing about what's going on we listen we got people over here my alerts are going off in the chat I was like I don't know how to turn them off y'all but turn to I tried to

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turn it off twice I think I have my alerts in two places so I said oh well [ __ ] it um but while I have the floor I do have one final affiliate question this is affiliate related from Mar Rouser uh I wasn't trying to ask no questions from I I'm just here today and thank you for having me so Mor Rouser uh did have a question for Affiliates and maybe you guys want to chime in as well so the verified people and the partners you have the option to get weekly payouts right now brought to you by Kick streaming any plans to perhaps give the Affiliates that same option to get either weekly or bi-weekly pay in the near future or the far future or yeah I think this uh as far as right now no because this comes down to scaling okay look I'll give you another example like um our moderation team we quietly this past Thursday rolled out that okay so right now we do beforehand when we launch the site we would do our moderation team would give out warnings to VR chat chatting roulette and pools streamers we'd be like hey this is what you're doing can you adjust your content they would adjust it no ban no nothing it would just keep going to scale that to the rest of the platform takes more resources takes more people um because just chatting is a much bigger category than VR chat because gaming is just a much bigger category than Chat Roulette right uh the other thing is that just chatting and chat roulette are I mean just chatting has a lot more Nuance than like let's say pool stream on pool stream you can say hey yo your bikini is crazy too small here's a screenshot please change it okay my bad we're going to do it right but in just chatting it's tough because you're saying like hey this topic that you're talking about is like we're not sure what to make of it like are we missing something like there's a lot more gray in just chatting like you it's not as like black and white in other categories like VR chat or chat roulette right so my point in saying all this is that we need a staff to be able to do back and forth with people when we give a warning right so this past Thursday we have rolled it out to the entire site that we are now doing this for kcip and verified in throughout the entire platform right because it's much more manageable like kcip members while we have a lot of people in kcip I think we have like 2,000 people maybe a little north of that [ __ ] right okay um and then you open that up to verify all right that's even and that's even bigger right now you open that up to Affiliates that's even more bigger right like my point in saying it and I'm G using the analogy of how we're doing the warning system we have to roll this out because we just don't have the staff to monitor it all like right we started off with pools then we added VR chat then we added Chat Roulette now we added kcip now we added verified same thing with the weekly payout right we at first we had inter internal disc discussion we were like [ __ ] we can only do this for kcip we just do not have the manpower to do this for kcip and verified and then we took a deeper look at it and we're like all right we can do it right but we can't do it for the entire platform can we scale and get to that point I think so um but uh there are a lot of things in consideration when you're talking about just all of a sudden opening it up to absolutely everybody right so I'm just giving you some behind the scenes thing of like the resourcing of doing that right so right now it is worth our time to do it for kcip and verified because we have the manpower to do it right so that was that question answered so just not right now perhaps yeah I don't see it any anytime soon let's just say okay let me ask you this would it be worth our time to do it yeah like do you think it would raise a lot of eyebrows across all platforms and people were like hey maybe I should give kick a shot weekly payout I feel like I if I'm not mistaken I'm pretty sure Tik Tok is on a weekly too um yeah well kind of but it's still 50-50 splits so is it really still 50-50 yeah but like Tik Tok you know it be like oh okay well Tik tok's leaving you know where do I where do I go and if I see oh okay well Kick's doing my payouts every week I you know and I

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get a bigger split you know that might be worth it everybody else on the platform too but yeah say in the future cool cool what else you guys got you guys are laughing your asses off no because okay Bo Bobo we did we had like a little thing and I guess K came in his stream and gave him a warning so he's like it would have been nice if they said to me hey stop shaking your tits so much and or put some pants on or just not give him a warning but I mean at least you'd have banned him you know saying okay look so okay so can you imagine if kick staff came in and typed hey bobo can you stop shaking your tit so much all right that stuff would get that's clipped off right and Bobo would be claimed to be the darling of kick look at the favoritism that kick is giving Bobo right as opposed to being like hey bobo check your email bro you know and then in a nice professional email we say we notice that X Y and Z is happening here's the screenshot of x y and as opposed to us Banning you right now do you mind going and changing your whatever you know and there's a conversation there right so it could be worse it could go worse no no let me tell you what H what okay let me ask you guys what would happen on other platforms s day ban okay ban seven day ban and then what kind of explanation what kind of dialogue would there be nothing prob just the to of one sliver line and no other communication yep so it could be worse bu it could be worse so this gets back to my point this get of kick wants to treat people like adults because the average streamer is 33 years old because a guy like Bobo can be reasoned with would look at it and be like I'm an adult I'm a reasonable person thank you for communicating with me thank you for giving me the warning let's just I I'll do it I'll adapt right yeah and so that's the kind of relationship that we've developed with our pool streamers our VR chat streamers and our um our chat roulette streamers as soon as they see the message in chat now it doesn't even get to email right now it's just is like hey kick stab hey can you please check your email they're like oh I know what I did yeah which is great I mean not just getting banned right off the rip with no explanation just uh here's the to number you just did and that's it I mean at least here's the other flip side is that it also helps us realize like maybe we're taking ourselves a little too seriously right like like if we start giving warnings I'll give you an example it's kind of like um there was a guy named I Dunkle that had SpongeBob SquarePants playing on a TV in his room right not even like watching it not even reacting to it just had SpongeBob playing in his room right like he was in the just chatting category but since we didn't have this system in play it was um hey please you're getting a dmca strike please take this down well he didn't see it he didn't take it down so we pulled the plug right okay now we probably took it too far right like there there's got to be some wants to it because I got to believe that if we contacted I dun and we said hey you got to remove this SpongeBob off your thing he would have been like oh my bad I got you right but then on the flip side the other thing is like come on man it's on his television screen he's not even reacting to it it's not even like there for background like did Nickelodeon or Paramount actually contact us about I Dunkle right now right are is Paramount and Nickelodeon like busting down the kick doors to make sure that their SpongeBob property is protected from ID duncle is that happening right now because if it's not happening right now maybe we should just ease the [ __ ] up right yeah okay so like that's the Nuance I'm not I'm not throwing shade on our moderation team I'm saying like that's the kind of conversation that can happen as opposed to just like pulling the plug and not communicating yeah you know I just wanted to say thank you uh S I got to get to work I apologize for having to bail out a little early I love the conversations love every affiliate

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here just remember keep crying and guys that's all I wanted to say at my end there just keep doing you hours a good yeah I looked at the time and said I got 15 minutes I'm so glad you got to come for us and just speak your peace and give us your WI thank you for being here and I did want to say you know there there'll be a Lauren will put out the Tweet but there'll be another award show coming yes there will just wait will we get awards for the next time around that that'll be that be cool I'm in talks with somebody right now so uh you know just uh keep that in mind well I IDE we will try to inate be right and ideally hopefully kick as a platform when ready to cuz you know a lot of people you know you want to it's uh what's the word you want to shoot the messenger and all that you don't like me I'm not your favorite I'm making it per whatever the case may be um whenever the platform is ready and wants to do it they can take this cup from Me Like Jesus say um and pass it on to themselves if they want to do that and they can do the nominations website and they can do all that kind of stuff and you know your girl and maybe other people can just host and present so y'all can just you know [ __ ] and complain to the platform directly if you have an issue but for now we will take the genuine feedback some of y'all just want to [ __ ] and y'all know who you are some of you guys actually come with genuine feedback which helped us to improve as a to put this on for a whole Community um last year and to then try to do this again for this year but at at the same time we're only can go at the pace of what this community is doing without the platform as a whole also um engaging in it so for now it is community Le it is something that we're all working together to do um and until then you know here we are and a lot of people want it in person as well so maybe we can be talking to dream hack at some point about doing an inperson collaboration for the show at some point but these things take time and this is a very it's a growing platform but it's also still a very new platform so just give Grace and space and get up out my face God bless you all damn that part and just like that she dropped the mic on she said back to girl but hey fuzz if uh if you got a balance cool you know let's take just 10 more minutes where everyone can just round it out and then um and then we'll go from there all I appreciate you guys appreciate you bye guys bye have a good day who was that guy I'm kidding by the way I'm weak that's crazy if you don't know now you know that was hopefully the point of having more different kind of people come on all right so let me ask you guys something like um with kick to is this what you expected is this uh is there a better way to do this do you like this um you know I think this is your time to like call us out uh how we produce this show how we do this um or is this just um are we uh taking advantage of you guys are we or do you feel heard does is this a good format I personally think this is great I mean it seems like you let anybody in which is really good because you get all points of perspective of their reality and the streaming Journey whether you know affiliate verified you got Aiden you got otk management you know what I'm saying so like I think this is great my eyes it's not filtered you let us you it's pretty much just raw content literally not scripted at all cool right they didn't send you nothing saying okay sweet cak you're gonna ask about the wrestling G make sure you ask about the uh the road map to kick and all that nobody put a chart nobody says all that in fact you go so blind sometimes they be like oh [ __ ] what am I going to do today yeah say I woke up I was like what am I gonna say I got the form you're right we love the free form I don't like scripted yeah I was like are they going to ask me questions or I was like no this is this is what I like this is great right here this is great cool awesome so um yeah I mean what do you guys I mean what are you guys parting thoughts like um you know across the board it doesn't have to be KCA related or anything else that we've talked about like you know it could be like suggestions that we you know what you want to see kick or what your perception is on life whatever um that way we just I just want I guess my point is that I don't want you guys leaving without putting it out all out on the table so if there's anything that you're leaving on the table I don't mind spending an

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extra 10 15 minutes making sure that you walk away from this call um getting your point across no I think I was quiet in the beginning and I yapped away I pretty I think I you said it I will say this um I was pretty uneasy joining kick cuz you know perception and you know there's that twitch pill I'll say that mindset you know going to kick and it was kind of uneasy and I asked my community yesterday I said are you guys liking kick and they're like yeah we're so in it and uh you know for 2025 I feel a lot better going in k for the third year second year whatever versus in the beginning so I I'm pretty at ease again it's just kind of like avoid the noise stay true to your content trust the process and keep going so yeah it made me feel comfortable doing the whole Switcheroo from twitch to kick and just it's like my little safe spot right here I'm it's comfortable I'm liking it I'm liking it um for me I am like a really shy person so at the end of last year when we put on those award show and everything it was a way to for me to finally notice that I can step out of my comfort zone and show up and this is another situation I was nervous I've been in the streams with KCK to and just to see the chats flaring off and it's like oh but this was an experience I vibed out I enjoyed talking to them I got to talk to them in the at the kca's in Discord we vibed out so to see them again beautiful experience listen that's why I went to you in the intros first I'm the type of person that will just throw I'll throw my kid into the deepen and see what happens um and uh you did great and even meeting you at dream hack you came right up to me we talked we got an I got a picture with you uh and um so yeah all I can say is that uh from seeing you at dream hack to here like you were you're supposed to be and um and you keep Rising the occasion so uh just keep doing it appreciate that oh and before I forget oh SPS gaming or just got Affiliated and we're doing our first event Community event well not first because you know as an affiliate we doing our first event so I'm calling out putting it out there now we are going to be doing a puzzle along all the links to register for the puzzle along is in the bio on my personal Channel sugar bears club and ons and you can also hit the Twitter ons gaming org and register so hit it up let's have some fun let's take put down the game you guys have me on Discord uh if there's any way that I can help or what you got going on please hit us up and let us know um and we we will support every way we can I'm going to do we listen and we don't judge series with three other streamers involved so this is going to be this one's going to be in for the books I'm excited I'm excited I Did It For My Stream but just with the community but I think if I add people with the same sense of vibe and style that I put out I think it's going to be hilarious that be fun funny hell yeah anyone else leaving it out there since we're all talking about what we're doing K conversations um obviously is going to continue every Friday and if you anyone would be interested in being featured there is a for now in my about section um where you can fill in uh to register your interest we're also going to be branching out and doing a bit more with it I'm going to be doing conversations Hot Topics which we Tri last year where we're going to have three or four streamers on at the same time we're going to start tackling some more of the the divisive topics in a nice conversational um respectful manner but we're going to we're going to tackle kick conversations at the moment is kind of a one-on-one conversation and it's quite positive around kick we talk about the negatives but we don't get into anything too crazy but we want to kind of get out of the comfort Zone and breach some of those hot topics we're also going to be doing someone mentioned earlier but we're going to be doing kit conversations with mods and one with viewers um and we have some other podcasts coming as well so yeah big things happening this year

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yeah it's this is the year to do stuff 2025 put your mind to it got it do it go do it right don't be afraid to take some risk my sister said that the um she said her word for the year is perspective so getting the perspective of other people sharing in others and also finding what her own vision for her own life and her world looks like and in that perspective so um along on those same lines I want to thank you guys for sharing your perspectives in this uh discussion with us all day from santoria and all his feedback and taking on every question uh no matter what it was having a response for every and thought out response not just answering uh to answer the question but taking time to actually listen respond formulate and then um come up with Solutions and offer it back to us so thank you guys for all being a part of this uh appreciate again all the support from the kit Community Awards event 2024 it was the first time doing it with the community as a whole within my reach and I'm blessed um to have had so much help with that as well um from the people who presented to the people who clipped and did the award design and I mean it was in the morning I just about to say it was a long night especially for my European brothers and up till 600 7 a. m. in the morning and I looked up I'm like oh my God it's 2 o'cl how are we still here but I know why I'm a I'mma just shatter y'all couldn't vote for me but y know the fun part Miss nomination fun part yes Y and we had a lot of um feedback a lot of help and a lot of behind the scenes so again thank you to Su and fuz for being that behind those behind the scene voices shout out to the people who received an award this year who did not uh get even nominated or got nominated or supported other people whatever the case may be shout out to us as a community for trying to put something together um to highlight achievements and celebrate one another versus tearing each other down um I pray one of the things we take away from these kind of conversations is that we will do more talking to each other uh versus about each other there's so much more you can solve when you actually speak to a person verus just um what's that what's it saying um you make a ass out of when you assume [ __ ] you and me so just talk to people that's from the three stoes I think just talk to people um and try to solve within your own spaces and places we're all grown I know we don't always act like it but let's try um couple other things got to remind the people out there I am Lauren Shay LA from South Central LA today was a good day but it's also not such a good day for some people out here um I don't I'm on the East Coast now but my West Coast people are struggling my aunt for example has lost her home in Palisades I have people that are um in the community right now that don't have a home they're displaced they're without food they lost all their pictures and um the air quality is terrible my mother has asthma I mean there's so much going on right now in La listen I'm over here thinking I'm like I'm in a snowstorm for the first time I'm like oh my God it's cold and it's this and no the city is burning yes uh so we do have an initiative right now on my page through tiltify for uh direct relief which offers Medical Aid um offering Food Supplies housing resources so if you're interested I'm going to be fundraising all week uh with a goal of $1,000 trying to of course do my part to always give back like we always do um and uh last but most uh certainly not least um I do want to just thank the kit Community as a whole for bringing people together and for bringing myself together with my man cuz for some people don't know I'm always going to shout out Omni JoJo who I did meet through kick streaming and I am engaged to and I am 20 weeks pregnant with our son so this is a legit kick baby y'all I would not I don't think be having my son without um this platform and this community so um I'm thankful for that I'm thankful for the people here and I'm thankful to God always for positioning Me For Greater and all of us here so thank you for having me y we want to give a big shout out to you as well Community Awards did an absolutely incredible job and I know you did have you had help and the community are incredible but it wouldn't have happened without you and you are the queen of the CIT community and we love you thank you so much for bringing it together we really appreciate you thank you keep rolling yeah one thing I will you know say you know thank you all for coming on um thanks for being honest um so for anyone out there who's watching this and think that Lauren and Shay just woke up one day and just did this like that's not it's not the case she has a long history of kick she's been put through the ringer I can't even tell

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you um she's like [ __ ] I been I can't even tell you how much been put through the ringer but the thing is that so have a lot of you guys out there right so I want to point that out like this [ __ ] ain't easy it's intense uh but at the same time man when it's clicking it's fun and there's a lot of positive things that you can do with this right uh my point is that if you're sitting out there you need to see yourselves in lazy Panda Good Vibes Greg you need to see yourself in Lauren sha Sugar AO and sweet cakes you need to see yourself in Aiden you need to see yourself in sneo you need to see yourself in all these story arcs that you see that are happening on Kick because life is evolving uh and I think that is where live streaming got it wrong is that other platforms didn't allow life to just evolve that a to became a time capsule and when you loosen up to and you loosen up the C Time Capsule yeah it's going to get a little rough but it's the only way maturity is going to happen that a story arc is going to happen and it's the only way that you evolve out of your current situation so um leave the resentment at home quit pocket watching um realize that people are um you know worry about your grind worry about your community if your community ain't giving you the flowers then this might not be for you in yourself at least believe in yourself if don't believe in yourself then you can't grow as a person and I'm learning that now I'm giving myself that selflove so beautiful um and then here's the other thing um Eddie would was is on um little holiday he is going to be back next weekend uh hosting kick to so big shout out to Eddie for allowing me to host these uh big shout out to Eddie for even allowing this to happen the only platform where the CEO comes on and answers questions and allows his staff to answer questions um all you guys on here um promise we're we'll bring you guys back on so that you can have a chat with Eddie uh I because he is he's the main event right um and so but just know he watches these when he's not a part of these right we break this down we take notes we clip it off and we share this internally so um every bit of this um he will watch um he will take inventory on but um yeah thanks to Eddie for just allowing this to happen big shout out to the mods that were in here protecting chat big shout out to the staff that was listening to you guys um and we do take this seriously we do pick this apart we clip this off and all departments are able to dive into this and watch this you know via clips and things of that nature um but yeah thanks to you guys for coming on here and put putting yourself out there and having a discussion and then I'll Echo what uh Eddie says all the time when we rap one of these things up is that thank you for just like being interested in Kick enough to be here right I think he's always shocked every week in seeing like how many people actually care about the platform want to learn about the platform so um I just want to end the show they have to give it a chance at least just give the platform for a chance if you don't like it you can go back to the other one that's it change the channel and there's a lot of options and let's just continue just before we rap make sure we continue to incorporate different people's voices because I think it was awesome having an affiliate verified streamers Casi people just getting more people's voices so perhaps in continuity of care for the kick talks going forward there can be one day some sort of form where people can maybe apply to come on and be like hey I'm so and so I'm an affiliate on the platform and here's what I'd like to talk to Eddie about and maybe that could be another way you guys do some scouting and get some uh people to be featured as well just to continue this yeah um so who do we want to host guys

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